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I'm going to call the Board of Going Appeals for Tuesday, January 23rd to order. 00:00:10
I'm gonna have Melanie to Caldwell. 00:00:15
Barns here, Phillips here, here. 00:00:18
Basil here. Yeah, so sorry. 00:00:24
And I'll entertain a motion to nominate a chair for 2024. 00:00:28
Somebody want to make that? 00:00:33
Motion motion for Dan Phillips Dan Phillips for chair. 00:00:37
Do I have a second? I'll second that motion. Laurie Braskis. 00:00:42
You know Colorado Barnes. Yes, yes, Phillips. 00:00:47
Fresca's. 00:00:54
Bethel, Yes. Motion carried. I'll entertain a motion for vice chair for 2024. 00:00:56
Lori will nominate. 00:01:03
OK, have a second. 00:01:06
I'll second that with a tie, so you pick whoever. 00:01:08
Yes, Bolt, Phillip. Yes, barn, yes. 00:01:15
Motion carried. OK, Danny, that's all you did? 00:01:21
Everybody has had an opportunity to review the minutes from the November 28th, 2023 meeting. 00:01:26
Anybody. Nobody has any questions but someone like to make a motion to approve. 00:01:33
Minutes. 00:01:37
So moved. 00:01:39
Can we get? 00:01:43
Second people. 00:01:44
Barnes. Yes. Phillips. Yes. 00:01:47
Motion carried. 00:01:52
Correspondence Glen Melanie Do we have any correspondence this evening? No correspondence this evening. 00:01:55
OK. 00:02:00
Next, I'm going to read a brief statement here. 00:02:03
Each request presented to this board is reviewed on its own merit. 00:02:06
Judgments rendered are not based on similar or previous decisions. 00:02:10
When unsatisfied with any decision reached by this Board, an applicant may reapply to the Board with a modified proposal or appeal 00:02:15
the decision to the County Court of Common Pleas. 00:02:20
The board strives for a comfortable, informal atmosphere while conducting its business and as that everyone who intends to speak 00:02:25
during this evening's meeting stand up now. 00:02:30
Raise the right hand. 00:02:37
And repeat the following of. 00:02:39
We do solemnly. 00:02:41
To speak truthfully. 00:02:43
During the preceding. 00:02:47
Of this even? 00:02:49
So help us God. 00:02:52
Thank you seated. 00:02:54
Old business, I don't believe we have anything. 00:02:58
All right, New business. 00:03:03
Boy Deborah Kazmirzak. 00:03:06
Am I close? 00:03:10
OK, which if you could please come up to the stadium? 00:03:12
The podium stadium here, yeah. And you know, yeah, you feel like Jason Kelsey, you know? 00:03:15
And. 00:03:25
If you could just state your name and your address. For the record, my name is Deborah Kasmir Sack, 5742 South St. Vermillion. 00:03:26
Historic District. 00:03:37
If you could please tell us what. 00:03:39
Plan to do what you're looking for well. 00:03:42
I already ordered 48 inch fence. 00:03:46
Black aluminum, very nice fence. 00:03:51
Without even realizing there could be a stipulation in the city code. 00:03:54
Ah, that is half paid. 00:04:00
It's an addition to the property. It's just for the front yard. 00:04:04
To 1905 Little Peak High looking farmhouse. 00:04:10
And I think it just looked really, really cute as an update to the neighborhood. 00:04:16
So I'm looking at your. 00:04:23
Now is it going to go to the whole front yard? 00:04:26
Yes, OK. It's not very big. OK. 00:04:30
OK. And so we see this, the walk. 00:04:35
So can you, could you please come up here for a second and just show us real quick? Yeah, just yeah, just show us real quickly. 00:04:39
Well, I'm in the corner. 00:04:50
So. 00:04:52
It's I have a front sidewalk. 00:04:56
Yeah. 00:05:00
Right here. 00:05:03
So it's going to be 18. 00:05:04
On the front and then a gate, 4 foot gate and then another 17 foot. 00:05:07
OK. So 17, so in the middle of this is where you got the gate. OK. All right. That's what I would just want to double check where. 00:05:14
So and then it goes 20 foot up on the east side. 00:05:23
And sixteen 4th on the West side on the Perry side up to the garage. 00:05:29
Are you cleaning your walk today? 00:05:37
OK. 00:05:48
So let's see here. Does anybody else, while we're looking around, have any questions? 00:05:51
So I guess my only question would. 00:05:57
Typically our. 00:06:02
A role, at least as partially. 00:06:04
Not regularly. 00:06:08
Permit variances, but to kind of understand what the hardships are in that as to why they're being requested. 00:06:10
And I presume from your opening comments, your hardship is that it's ordered and you already have half paid for it as is. 00:06:18
It's not cheap, I'm certain of that. 00:06:27
That. 00:06:32
I I'm new to the city. 00:06:37
I have a big dog, so I just. 00:06:41
I know, I know, 42. It kind of be like. 00:06:45
Apparently she could. I mean, it's not primarily for her, it's for beautification. 00:06:49
But our problem is we have that 3 foot 6. 00:06:58
So they're not really even a privacy fence, and I think that's where the code just didn't want. 00:07:03
Blocking views. 00:07:15
Right. 00:07:18
And this is going to be, you can see through the fence. Oh yes. So it's not going to block traffic. It's not going to do anything 00:07:21
at that corner right there. 00:07:25
Right. 00:07:31
Yes, yes. Well, I saw the gate. Which of the there's markings on this? 00:07:33
Well that doesn't matter. I was just curious as. 00:07:38
Which of the actual, yeah, it's gonna be that. 00:07:42
The whole fence or just that's just which is the fence down here in the bottom corner? 00:07:47
See, that's how an animal protection. If an animal would try to jump over that fence, it's not going to get hurt. Right? Because 00:07:55
it's got the top rail. OK, very good. Yep, You're thinking of everything. 00:08:01
45 years from that town. 00:08:17
So even let me ask you this. 00:08:21
If she did, or if she would have ordered one that was 3 foot six, she wouldn't even need a variance. 00:08:24
So I mean, we're just here for six inches traditional 6 inches, OK? 00:08:29
Does anybody else have any questions? 00:08:36
Tonight. 00:08:40
I think because you're going to be able to see right through it, it's more decorative. Is it going to cause any problems? That was 00:08:43
always that was always concerned, especially corner lots. 00:08:47
Is putting those fences up that it would block any type of view and I don't see that happening there so. 00:08:52
The trees blocked. 00:09:00
The corner to see. So I mean say yeast really good if I'm going to use this. 00:09:05
Well, if nobody else has anything, I'll make a motion regarding. 00:09:13
Zoning. 00:09:19
Five Certified section 1272.091 Fencing Front yard Required 3 foot 6 inches Proposed 4 foot 0 inches of variance requested 6 00:09:20
inches. 00:09:26
I will second that motion. 00:09:33
Farms. Yes, bolts. 00:09:36
Phillips. 00:09:39
Motion carried. Congratulations. 00:09:42
You could breathe them. 00:09:46
Thank you. 00:09:51
Next on the agenda is. 00:09:55
Belgium. Dylan. Did I say that right? 00:10:00
I need you guys to state your name and your addresses for the record, please. That's 54 Restaurant Hinckley OH, 44233. Thank you. 00:10:05
My name is Scott Newman and I am National Oil and Gases Territory Manager for the State of Ohio, but my home address is 15987. 00:10:25
Kellogg Rd. Bowling Green OH. 00:10:36
All righty. We are. 00:10:43
Looking at these applications and I've seen. 00:10:54
This one came. 00:10:57
This came after the fact and I'm not really sure. 00:11:00
His name up here isn't matching. 00:11:04
This one, OK, OK. 00:11:07
That's what I wanted to find out. OK. Could you please tell us the board what you're applying for? 00:11:11
Well, what we're asking for is just a reinstatement of the approved permit to put the sign in place that we had already thought. 00:11:18
Worked with your department, with Mike. On to, you know, submit all the proper applications. We submitted the engineer drawings. 00:11:28
And and tried to to follow and abide by all the wishes and got a. 00:11:40
Permit and and then at that point in time we submitted to have manufacturing begin building. 00:11:46
Well, it's going to be a very expensive sign. So it's they're in the process of manufacturing that. So it we we found out after 00:11:54
this back then that. 00:11:59
Some of the stuff was overlooked that we had submitted in relation to size, square footage and stuff that way. 00:12:06
So it. 00:12:14
You do have. 00:12:18
The sign order, Correct. More than ordered. It is in the midst of being manufactured, yes. 00:12:20
So it is. It is. It's a $43,000 sign. 00:12:27
So yeah, we're kind of learning a little bit as we go what what happened here and yeah, so. 00:12:33
Again, partially on the back end of this as well. I wasn't involved in the initial permitting process. 00:12:40
So we. 00:12:47
Our zoning code says you're allowed up to 65 square foot and you're going to request 136 square foot sign, but the sign is already 00:12:48
ordered. 00:12:54
Yes, OK. 00:13:00
All that it was approved before. 00:13:02
Our company has done this. Our project engineer is very familiar with these processes. He knows better than to start 00:13:07
manufacturing. Get that process started until we get full permitting. 00:13:14
Where do you? 00:13:26
Plan to put. 00:13:28
There was there was approved on the east side of the building. 00:13:30
And can you, can you come up here and show us? 00:13:37
Yeah. 00:13:43
If you want to use this draw where it's going to go before it was approved on this side. 00:13:44
Define. 00:13:51
Like this because this is the West side, it was on east side on other side and why we were moving there was going to be like night 00:13:55
here. 00:13:58
That due to this billing clause we said we will move on this side. Even death marking is in my property as we have to go about 15 00:14:03
feet away. So it's going to be probably about here because with the city variation, what they call from a right way set back was 00:14:09
what he said minimum 20 feet. 00:14:16
But then it goes one feet for extra each feet and so it was about 2420. 00:14:23
My set back is from here, so from here about 2425 feet back and it was approved on any side but due to it was going to be like 00:14:30
when you if you're traveling. 00:14:37
East to West, yes. It won't be that visible and that's why it's OK if we move from, you know, just from that side to this side. I 00:14:45
was. So your your concern was if you had it in the original spot, it might block another sign. 00:14:51
Like, not that busy. Well, because. 00:14:58
You know, I don't know what they have that went in place. Now they will be you know blocking little bit on the wheel. That's why 00:15:02
we, you know I had a question then Mike came over. That's how Mike found out. 00:15:09
It is well overlooked. Yes. OK. Thank you. Thank you. 00:15:17
So this is gonna. 00:15:25
Here then, right? Yeah. So it's going to be back. 00:15:28
Somewhere in here. 00:15:32
Towards the farm market side instead. 00:15:35
Yeah, instead of what was happening over there. 00:15:38
OK, once this is resolved, so it's documented. 00:15:43
Exactly where the size is going to be placed. 00:15:52
Does anybody have any questions? 00:16:01
Just to clarify, we only have. 00:16:03
To vote on for the square footage, not the setbacker. 00:16:07
Because it's going to be. It's going to be. 00:16:13
So okay. 00:16:21
But the application does cite those parts of the. 00:16:23
Code so. 00:16:28
We have two. 00:16:33
Says they shall be located no closer to intersecting public rights away than 20 feet or the height of the sign, which is whichever 00:16:35
is greater. 00:16:39
So you're saying we're already? 00:16:43
Beyond that, so it doesn't apply. 00:16:46
I think that's what you are asking, right? Whether these other pieces. 00:16:51
That was this was the one that you guys didn't get it. I'm sorry. They got the revised one, which is, yeah, you have a revised one 00:16:55
somewhere. This is the revised one, but it doesn't. I didn't get that. 00:17:01
Right here, this is all I got. 00:17:09
OK, I didn't know. OK, so it doesn't have anything to do with the set backs. It's going to be OK. 00:17:13
You did e-mail. 00:17:18
Because we sent the e-mail after we sent because they sent it to. 00:17:20
So then the. 00:17:27
Square footage. 00:17:31
And what's the H? 00:17:32
That was that's that's no longer that's OK. So it's this one here one dealing with. 00:17:34
To be required 65 Proposed 136. 00:17:41
And then it's in a sign permitted in a commercial industrial district. 00:17:45
So we're just dealing right now with just the square footage of the center and I I want to make sure we have this too. So we have 00:17:54
in the record, the square footage consists of the actual face of the sign and. 00:18:00
Polls. And so if it's 10 foot in the air, we don't count that face of the sign. 00:18:08
OK. Yeah. 00:18:14
What's up? 00:18:18
Yeah. Is there a height three. Well, I saw him here. There's something about 20 foot or something. Well, 20 foot over the height 00:18:21
of the sign, but. 00:18:25
So I don't know what's the height of the. 00:18:30
23 feet. So back, back here. He's way more than 23. 00:18:34
Is not a 2A is not an issue right away to say by Speedway. 00:18:43
65 feet. And we get out there to see right away, just about 125 feet. So it actually sets everything even farther back to the 00:18:53
road. 00:18:57
So. 00:19:03
Even those retention ponds was pushed back after the Giants. That's why it's saying it. 00:19:04
OK, got yourself. So I mean. 00:19:13
So what we're really hearing is it was kind of a little bit of a some miscommunication on. 00:19:16
The square footage of the sign. 00:19:22
And unfortunately, you have already. 00:19:26
Pretty much purchased the time, so. 00:19:31
And that to me is a hardship, like we were just dealing with the person in front of you. It is without question hardship. 00:19:35
You know, unless we want to make, it's going to be a beautiful. 00:19:45
And I think this will finish the package out when it gets finished and put in place. I really believe it's cool, you know, and we 00:19:52
want to help any new business as much as we can and we want to help any business in town. So I mean, you know, whatever we can do 00:19:58
to try to make this process is easier for you. 00:20:03
You know, you definitely try. 00:20:11
That's why I've been there. I lived in New York City, then moved to Cleveland. 00:20:13
Originally from India. I'm a farmer, so that's I'm moving to smaller community, you know that. That's been my life, you know, 00:20:17
lifestyle until I probably retire. 00:20:22
Yes, OK. Does anybody else have any questions? 00:20:29
1. 00:20:36
I don't. I don't have any other questions. 00:20:40
Yeah, yeah. All right. 00:20:43
I'm going to make a motion if everybody's comfortable with it. Under zoning District B-3 Certified Section 1274.12 Signs Permitted 00:20:49
Commercial Industrial District. 00:20:55
To be required 65 foot. Proposed 136 square foot. 00:21:03
Variance requested as a 71 square foot. 00:21:09
Variance for a son. 00:21:13
Can I get a second on that? I'll second that motion. OK. Phillips. Yes, Yes. 00:21:16
Carascas Barn castle. Yes, Motion caring. Congratulations. Welcome to Vermilion. 00:21:23
Both of your new business to. 00:21:34
Thank you. Thank you. 00:21:39
OK. 00:21:48
Thank you. All right, The next meeting will be February 27th at 6:00 PM in this facility. And with that, we are adjourned. 00:21:51
Melanie. 00:22:06
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I'm going to call the Board of Going Appeals for Tuesday, January 23rd to order. 00:00:10
I'm gonna have Melanie to Caldwell. 00:00:15
Barns here, Phillips here, here. 00:00:18
Basil here. Yeah, so sorry. 00:00:24
And I'll entertain a motion to nominate a chair for 2024. 00:00:28
Somebody want to make that? 00:00:33
Motion motion for Dan Phillips Dan Phillips for chair. 00:00:37
Do I have a second? I'll second that motion. Laurie Braskis. 00:00:42
You know Colorado Barnes. Yes, yes, Phillips. 00:00:47
Fresca's. 00:00:54
Bethel, Yes. Motion carried. I'll entertain a motion for vice chair for 2024. 00:00:56
Lori will nominate. 00:01:03
OK, have a second. 00:01:06
I'll second that with a tie, so you pick whoever. 00:01:08
Yes, Bolt, Phillip. Yes, barn, yes. 00:01:15
Motion carried. OK, Danny, that's all you did? 00:01:21
Everybody has had an opportunity to review the minutes from the November 28th, 2023 meeting. 00:01:26
Anybody. Nobody has any questions but someone like to make a motion to approve. 00:01:33
Minutes. 00:01:37
So moved. 00:01:39
Can we get? 00:01:43
Second people. 00:01:44
Barnes. Yes. Phillips. Yes. 00:01:47
Motion carried. 00:01:52
Correspondence Glen Melanie Do we have any correspondence this evening? No correspondence this evening. 00:01:55
OK. 00:02:00
Next, I'm going to read a brief statement here. 00:02:03
Each request presented to this board is reviewed on its own merit. 00:02:06
Judgments rendered are not based on similar or previous decisions. 00:02:10
When unsatisfied with any decision reached by this Board, an applicant may reapply to the Board with a modified proposal or appeal 00:02:15
the decision to the County Court of Common Pleas. 00:02:20
The board strives for a comfortable, informal atmosphere while conducting its business and as that everyone who intends to speak 00:02:25
during this evening's meeting stand up now. 00:02:30
Raise the right hand. 00:02:37
And repeat the following of. 00:02:39
We do solemnly. 00:02:41
To speak truthfully. 00:02:43
During the preceding. 00:02:47
Of this even? 00:02:49
So help us God. 00:02:52
Thank you seated. 00:02:54
Old business, I don't believe we have anything. 00:02:58
All right, New business. 00:03:03
Boy Deborah Kazmirzak. 00:03:06
Am I close? 00:03:10
OK, which if you could please come up to the stadium? 00:03:12
The podium stadium here, yeah. And you know, yeah, you feel like Jason Kelsey, you know? 00:03:15
And. 00:03:25
If you could just state your name and your address. For the record, my name is Deborah Kasmir Sack, 5742 South St. Vermillion. 00:03:26
Historic District. 00:03:37
If you could please tell us what. 00:03:39
Plan to do what you're looking for well. 00:03:42
I already ordered 48 inch fence. 00:03:46
Black aluminum, very nice fence. 00:03:51
Without even realizing there could be a stipulation in the city code. 00:03:54
Ah, that is half paid. 00:04:00
It's an addition to the property. It's just for the front yard. 00:04:04
To 1905 Little Peak High looking farmhouse. 00:04:10
And I think it just looked really, really cute as an update to the neighborhood. 00:04:16
So I'm looking at your. 00:04:23
Now is it going to go to the whole front yard? 00:04:26
Yes, OK. It's not very big. OK. 00:04:30
OK. And so we see this, the walk. 00:04:35
So can you, could you please come up here for a second and just show us real quick? Yeah, just yeah, just show us real quickly. 00:04:39
Well, I'm in the corner. 00:04:50
So. 00:04:52
It's I have a front sidewalk. 00:04:56
Yeah. 00:05:00
Right here. 00:05:03
So it's going to be 18. 00:05:04
On the front and then a gate, 4 foot gate and then another 17 foot. 00:05:07
OK. So 17, so in the middle of this is where you got the gate. OK. All right. That's what I would just want to double check where. 00:05:14
So and then it goes 20 foot up on the east side. 00:05:23
And sixteen 4th on the West side on the Perry side up to the garage. 00:05:29
Are you cleaning your walk today? 00:05:37
OK. 00:05:48
So let's see here. Does anybody else, while we're looking around, have any questions? 00:05:51
So I guess my only question would. 00:05:57
Typically our. 00:06:02
A role, at least as partially. 00:06:04
Not regularly. 00:06:08
Permit variances, but to kind of understand what the hardships are in that as to why they're being requested. 00:06:10
And I presume from your opening comments, your hardship is that it's ordered and you already have half paid for it as is. 00:06:18
It's not cheap, I'm certain of that. 00:06:27
That. 00:06:32
I I'm new to the city. 00:06:37
I have a big dog, so I just. 00:06:41
I know, I know, 42. It kind of be like. 00:06:45
Apparently she could. I mean, it's not primarily for her, it's for beautification. 00:06:49
But our problem is we have that 3 foot 6. 00:06:58
So they're not really even a privacy fence, and I think that's where the code just didn't want. 00:07:03
Blocking views. 00:07:15
Right. 00:07:18
And this is going to be, you can see through the fence. Oh yes. So it's not going to block traffic. It's not going to do anything 00:07:21
at that corner right there. 00:07:25
Right. 00:07:31
Yes, yes. Well, I saw the gate. Which of the there's markings on this? 00:07:33
Well that doesn't matter. I was just curious as. 00:07:38
Which of the actual, yeah, it's gonna be that. 00:07:42
The whole fence or just that's just which is the fence down here in the bottom corner? 00:07:47
See, that's how an animal protection. If an animal would try to jump over that fence, it's not going to get hurt. Right? Because 00:07:55
it's got the top rail. OK, very good. Yep, You're thinking of everything. 00:08:01
45 years from that town. 00:08:17
So even let me ask you this. 00:08:21
If she did, or if she would have ordered one that was 3 foot six, she wouldn't even need a variance. 00:08:24
So I mean, we're just here for six inches traditional 6 inches, OK? 00:08:29
Does anybody else have any questions? 00:08:36
Tonight. 00:08:40
I think because you're going to be able to see right through it, it's more decorative. Is it going to cause any problems? That was 00:08:43
always that was always concerned, especially corner lots. 00:08:47
Is putting those fences up that it would block any type of view and I don't see that happening there so. 00:08:52
The trees blocked. 00:09:00
The corner to see. So I mean say yeast really good if I'm going to use this. 00:09:05
Well, if nobody else has anything, I'll make a motion regarding. 00:09:13
Zoning. 00:09:19
Five Certified section 1272.091 Fencing Front yard Required 3 foot 6 inches Proposed 4 foot 0 inches of variance requested 6 00:09:20
inches. 00:09:26
I will second that motion. 00:09:33
Farms. Yes, bolts. 00:09:36
Phillips. 00:09:39
Motion carried. Congratulations. 00:09:42
You could breathe them. 00:09:46
Thank you. 00:09:51
Next on the agenda is. 00:09:55
Belgium. Dylan. Did I say that right? 00:10:00
I need you guys to state your name and your addresses for the record, please. That's 54 Restaurant Hinckley OH, 44233. Thank you. 00:10:05
My name is Scott Newman and I am National Oil and Gases Territory Manager for the State of Ohio, but my home address is 15987. 00:10:25
Kellogg Rd. Bowling Green OH. 00:10:36
All righty. We are. 00:10:43
Looking at these applications and I've seen. 00:10:54
This one came. 00:10:57
This came after the fact and I'm not really sure. 00:11:00
His name up here isn't matching. 00:11:04
This one, OK, OK. 00:11:07
That's what I wanted to find out. OK. Could you please tell us the board what you're applying for? 00:11:11
Well, what we're asking for is just a reinstatement of the approved permit to put the sign in place that we had already thought. 00:11:18
Worked with your department, with Mike. On to, you know, submit all the proper applications. We submitted the engineer drawings. 00:11:28
And and tried to to follow and abide by all the wishes and got a. 00:11:40
Permit and and then at that point in time we submitted to have manufacturing begin building. 00:11:46
Well, it's going to be a very expensive sign. So it's they're in the process of manufacturing that. So it we we found out after 00:11:54
this back then that. 00:11:59
Some of the stuff was overlooked that we had submitted in relation to size, square footage and stuff that way. 00:12:06
So it. 00:12:14
You do have. 00:12:18
The sign order, Correct. More than ordered. It is in the midst of being manufactured, yes. 00:12:20
So it is. It is. It's a $43,000 sign. 00:12:27
So yeah, we're kind of learning a little bit as we go what what happened here and yeah, so. 00:12:33
Again, partially on the back end of this as well. I wasn't involved in the initial permitting process. 00:12:40
So we. 00:12:47
Our zoning code says you're allowed up to 65 square foot and you're going to request 136 square foot sign, but the sign is already 00:12:48
ordered. 00:12:54
Yes, OK. 00:13:00
All that it was approved before. 00:13:02
Our company has done this. Our project engineer is very familiar with these processes. He knows better than to start 00:13:07
manufacturing. Get that process started until we get full permitting. 00:13:14
Where do you? 00:13:26
Plan to put. 00:13:28
There was there was approved on the east side of the building. 00:13:30
And can you, can you come up here and show us? 00:13:37
Yeah. 00:13:43
If you want to use this draw where it's going to go before it was approved on this side. 00:13:44
Define. 00:13:51
Like this because this is the West side, it was on east side on other side and why we were moving there was going to be like night 00:13:55
here. 00:13:58
That due to this billing clause we said we will move on this side. Even death marking is in my property as we have to go about 15 00:14:03
feet away. So it's going to be probably about here because with the city variation, what they call from a right way set back was 00:14:09
what he said minimum 20 feet. 00:14:16
But then it goes one feet for extra each feet and so it was about 2420. 00:14:23
My set back is from here, so from here about 2425 feet back and it was approved on any side but due to it was going to be like 00:14:30
when you if you're traveling. 00:14:37
East to West, yes. It won't be that visible and that's why it's OK if we move from, you know, just from that side to this side. I 00:14:45
was. So your your concern was if you had it in the original spot, it might block another sign. 00:14:51
Like, not that busy. Well, because. 00:14:58
You know, I don't know what they have that went in place. Now they will be you know blocking little bit on the wheel. That's why 00:15:02
we, you know I had a question then Mike came over. That's how Mike found out. 00:15:09
It is well overlooked. Yes. OK. Thank you. Thank you. 00:15:17
So this is gonna. 00:15:25
Here then, right? Yeah. So it's going to be back. 00:15:28
Somewhere in here. 00:15:32
Towards the farm market side instead. 00:15:35
Yeah, instead of what was happening over there. 00:15:38
OK, once this is resolved, so it's documented. 00:15:43
Exactly where the size is going to be placed. 00:15:52
Does anybody have any questions? 00:16:01
Just to clarify, we only have. 00:16:03
To vote on for the square footage, not the setbacker. 00:16:07
Because it's going to be. It's going to be. 00:16:13
So okay. 00:16:21
But the application does cite those parts of the. 00:16:23
Code so. 00:16:28
We have two. 00:16:33
Says they shall be located no closer to intersecting public rights away than 20 feet or the height of the sign, which is whichever 00:16:35
is greater. 00:16:39
So you're saying we're already? 00:16:43
Beyond that, so it doesn't apply. 00:16:46
I think that's what you are asking, right? Whether these other pieces. 00:16:51
That was this was the one that you guys didn't get it. I'm sorry. They got the revised one, which is, yeah, you have a revised one 00:16:55
somewhere. This is the revised one, but it doesn't. I didn't get that. 00:17:01
Right here, this is all I got. 00:17:09
OK, I didn't know. OK, so it doesn't have anything to do with the set backs. It's going to be OK. 00:17:13
You did e-mail. 00:17:18
Because we sent the e-mail after we sent because they sent it to. 00:17:20
So then the. 00:17:27
Square footage. 00:17:31
And what's the H? 00:17:32
That was that's that's no longer that's OK. So it's this one here one dealing with. 00:17:34
To be required 65 Proposed 136. 00:17:41
And then it's in a sign permitted in a commercial industrial district. 00:17:45
So we're just dealing right now with just the square footage of the center and I I want to make sure we have this too. So we have 00:17:54
in the record, the square footage consists of the actual face of the sign and. 00:18:00
Polls. And so if it's 10 foot in the air, we don't count that face of the sign. 00:18:08
OK. Yeah. 00:18:14
What's up? 00:18:18
Yeah. Is there a height three. Well, I saw him here. There's something about 20 foot or something. Well, 20 foot over the height 00:18:21
of the sign, but. 00:18:25
So I don't know what's the height of the. 00:18:30
23 feet. So back, back here. He's way more than 23. 00:18:34
Is not a 2A is not an issue right away to say by Speedway. 00:18:43
65 feet. And we get out there to see right away, just about 125 feet. So it actually sets everything even farther back to the 00:18:53
road. 00:18:57
So. 00:19:03
Even those retention ponds was pushed back after the Giants. That's why it's saying it. 00:19:04
OK, got yourself. So I mean. 00:19:13
So what we're really hearing is it was kind of a little bit of a some miscommunication on. 00:19:16
The square footage of the sign. 00:19:22
And unfortunately, you have already. 00:19:26
Pretty much purchased the time, so. 00:19:31
And that to me is a hardship, like we were just dealing with the person in front of you. It is without question hardship. 00:19:35
You know, unless we want to make, it's going to be a beautiful. 00:19:45
And I think this will finish the package out when it gets finished and put in place. I really believe it's cool, you know, and we 00:19:52
want to help any new business as much as we can and we want to help any business in town. So I mean, you know, whatever we can do 00:19:58
to try to make this process is easier for you. 00:20:03
You know, you definitely try. 00:20:11
That's why I've been there. I lived in New York City, then moved to Cleveland. 00:20:13
Originally from India. I'm a farmer, so that's I'm moving to smaller community, you know that. That's been my life, you know, 00:20:17
lifestyle until I probably retire. 00:20:22
Yes, OK. Does anybody else have any questions? 00:20:29
1. 00:20:36
I don't. I don't have any other questions. 00:20:40
Yeah, yeah. All right. 00:20:43
I'm going to make a motion if everybody's comfortable with it. Under zoning District B-3 Certified Section 1274.12 Signs Permitted 00:20:49
Commercial Industrial District. 00:20:55
To be required 65 foot. Proposed 136 square foot. 00:21:03
Variance requested as a 71 square foot. 00:21:09
Variance for a son. 00:21:13
Can I get a second on that? I'll second that motion. OK. Phillips. Yes, Yes. 00:21:16
Carascas Barn castle. Yes, Motion caring. Congratulations. Welcome to Vermilion. 00:21:23
Both of your new business to. 00:21:34
Thank you. Thank you. 00:21:39
OK. 00:21:48
Thank you. All right, The next meeting will be February 27th at 6:00 PM in this facility. And with that, we are adjourned. 00:21:51
Melanie. 00:22:06
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