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Test, test. Can you hear me? 00:00:05
OK. Yes, ma'am. 00:00:07
So .30. 00:00:09
Madam Clerk will call, please. 00:00:14
Commissioner Sharma. 00:00:17
Here, Commissioner Prader. 00:00:18
Here. 00:00:20
Chair Fischer here. 00:00:23
Can we have the invocation stand if you so desire? 00:00:25
Standard, all of your goodness and mercy. 00:00:33
Please help us to be minute. 00:00:35
And women of integrity. 00:00:37
Who put the needs of others before our own room? 00:00:39
May we strive to serve. 00:00:42
With humility and compassion. 00:00:45
Help us to seek. 00:00:47
Your will. 00:00:49
And all our actions and decisions. 00:00:50
Amen. Amen. 00:00:52
Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:54
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:56
For the United States of America. 00:00:59
And to the Republic for which it stands. 00:01:02
One nation under God. 00:01:04
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:01:07
Thank you very much. 00:01:20
So we would immediately go into. 00:01:22
Presentations and public hearings the first thing. 00:01:24
Would like to hit on would be public. 00:01:27
Comments if there. 00:01:29
Go ahead. 00:01:33
Thank you. 00:01:36
I move, we approve the agenda and authorize the chair to move. 00:01:39
But it's just necessary. Second, please. 00:01:41
Second roll call please. 00:01:43
Which one do you choose? 00:01:49
Aye. 00:01:58
Commissioner Wilson. Commissioner Chavez. Chair Fisher. 00:02:00
All right. 00:02:03
OK, now we'll go into. 00:02:05
Presentations and public hearings. So first of all I'd like to do is. 00:02:08
Ask for public comments. 00:02:12
From anyone in the audience. 00:02:14
Here's to come up for three minutes and speak. 00:02:16
On any subject. 00:02:19
There's a lot of people out here. 00:02:25
Sure. OK, move on then. 00:02:29
This is kind of the funnest part of the whole deal. 00:02:33
Today. 00:02:36
It's a service recognition and presentations. 00:02:38
That I've been honored to. 00:02:41
Give and so. 00:02:44
The reason why we're doing this, really. 00:02:46
We don't. We don't talk about our employees enough. 00:02:49
Here in the county. 00:02:51
They serve us all, doesn't matter what position. 00:02:52
We're in. 00:02:56
We really depend. 00:02:57
On the people that work. 00:02:59
In the county. 00:03:02
For the benefit of all the citizens. 00:03:03
So I'm going to come down here and. 00:03:06
Present these. 00:03:08
The certificates of appreciation. 00:03:10
Hopefully everybody who is. 00:03:13
Receiving a party will actually come down. 00:03:17
So the first one would be Christopher Church. 00:03:20
Let me read. I'm going to read 1. I don't know if I'll read them all but. 00:03:31
This is for one year of service, right? 00:03:35
And that's a. 00:03:37
That's pretty fantastic. We're really proud to have you here. 00:03:38
Part of the Sheriff's Office and the broader. 00:03:42
County Community. 00:03:45
We're so proud to have you as a. 00:03:47
Part of our. 00:03:49
Work Family. 00:03:50
We hope that you keep up the great. 00:03:52
Work with the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office for years to come. 00:03:54
On this 10th day of May, 2025. 00:03:58
And actually it's the wrong date. 00:04:01
It's a test. 00:04:03
Day of June. 00:04:05
Thank you, Sir. Thank you. 00:04:07
Very much. 00:04:08
And the next one is Todd Gentler. 00:04:15
Todd, there he is. 00:04:18
Terrific, Todd. 00:04:26
Thank you very much. 00:04:27
And the same thing goes really where? 00:04:29
We're so proud to have you as part of our our community, our workforce. 00:04:31
And we hope that you keep up the good work. I know you will. 00:04:36
And. 00:04:39
We hope to see you in Lincoln County Road Department for years to come. 00:04:41
Congratulations. 00:04:45
How about Shane Helter? 00:04:51
Oh, there he is. OK. 00:04:54
I thought he was standing. He actually was sitting down. 00:04:59
We're so proud to have you as part of our work family, Shane. 00:05:04
And we hope that you keep up the good work with the Lincoln County Road Department for years to come. 00:05:08
And thank you very much. Congratulations. 00:05:12
And Mr. Joe Vega. 00:05:19
On down. 00:05:23
Good to see you, Joe. Thank you so much for coming taking out of your day. 00:05:31
Congratulations. 00:05:34
We're proud to have you as part of our work family. 00:05:36
We hope that you keep up the good work with the Lincoln County Road Department for years to come and congratulations and welcome. 00:05:39
Thank you. 00:05:44
The next one is for Tendaya Thors and five years of service there she is. 00:05:52
Congratulations. 00:06:05
Thank you. Thank you very much. We're so proud to have you as part of our work family, Zendaya. 00:06:06
We hope that you keep up the good work with Lincoln County Appraisers Office for years to come. Congratulations and thank you for 00:06:11
your service. 00:06:14
Not too many know people know this guy, but we're going to ask him to come down anyway. Five years of service. Brian Sampson. 00:06:21
Congratulations, Brian. 00:06:34
Thank you. 00:06:36
We're proud to have you as part of our work family as well. 00:06:37
And we hope that you keep up the good work with the Lincoln County Office of Emergency Service for years to come. 00:06:41
They're not. 00:06:46
And this one's for 15 years of service. 00:06:51
That's a long time. 00:06:54
Gilbert Zamora. 00:06:56
Chairman, he wasn't able to make it. No Sir. 00:06:57
Well, Gilbert, we're proud that you're here for 15 years. I want to see. 00:07:00
Stay with us for a long time. 00:07:04
To come and where Sergeant Rex Spears come. 00:07:06
Sure, you couldn't make it, He's on vacation, so except for him to get it to him. 00:07:10
15 years. 00:07:15
To survive, it's pretty good, 15 years. It's very nice of this Commission to recognize. 00:07:16
Very, very nutjob. Thank you. Thank you, Sir. Thank you very much. 00:07:21
I hope, I hope that shows you that. 00:07:28
We really do care about our folks, yes. 00:07:30
Why not? 00:07:36
You gotta you gotta photographer. I guess we do. 00:07:37
Come on down, have a picture. 00:07:40
Sure, please. 00:07:44
Don't get. 00:07:47
Are we good? 00:08:01
Good, good, good to go. 00:08:12
Smile. Geez. 00:08:14
It's a nice photo. That's good. 00:08:16
Thank you. Thank you very much. 00:08:19
Anyway, it's important. 00:08:30
We're very proud to have you on board. 00:08:35
We'll do it later. OK, so the next. 00:08:39
The next event is going to be the presentation by Pattern Energy. 00:09:00
Manager. 00:09:07
Want to introduce them? Bring them up? 00:09:09
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 00:09:12
We went and met with. 00:09:14
Jeremy and fairness team. 00:09:16
And. 00:09:18
They have a presentation for us this morning. 00:09:19
With their operations and status and everything they have going on regarding our wind farms and some built payments and they 00:09:22
prepared this. 00:09:25
I have it right here. 00:09:29
I haven't ready. 00:09:34
There you go. So. 00:09:41
With that, we'll introduce Jeremy Turner. 00:09:44
With pattern energy. 00:09:47
Thanks, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners Manager. 00:09:49
Also with us today is Jeff Levette, number of the folks that work in the county. You know Jeff, he is our construction. 00:09:51
Project Manager. 00:09:58
Poor son Zi yourself. And that's the project that is built here in the county. 00:10:00
Sarah and I were here in December so I don't want to take up. I know you've got a busy agenda. 00:10:04
I'm happy to go through anything that I think I'm skip a few of these slides. 00:10:09
And I think most of you are aware of the pattern he is. 00:10:13
Sorry, used to standing in presentation. 00:10:18
So again, just to remind, the Commission patterns been in the State for a number of years now, since about 2015. 00:10:22
We came into Lincoln County in about 2016 when we started developing projects. 00:10:30
We've got a number of projects in the state. We've got 544 megawatts on the eastern side. 00:10:35
With our Broadview grading projects that came online in 2017 and 2019 and then been operating since that time. 00:10:41
Western Spirit, which is the first project that we did with Lincoln County. 00:10:47
Which is 1050 MW project that is the largest single phase build North American history at that time. 00:10:51
And we followed it up with Sanjay, which is the largest one farm in Western Hemisphere. 00:10:58
I'm along with the 553 mile transmission line that gets that power out of the state. 00:11:03
Again, from these are the pill payments, and these will not change, at least not for the foreseeable future. 00:11:10
Red Cloud wind is part of Western spirit. This is the project that. 00:11:18
Is located that small portion in Lincoln County. 00:11:22
Just shy of 82 megawatts and those are the payments, the pill payments that are associated with it. 00:11:26
The 153,000 in the county in the remaining portion of the Corona schools. 00:11:32
As we've talked before, the law regarding industrial revenue bonds have changed a number of times, so this does get a little 00:11:36
confusing over the. 00:11:40
Over the years, it's kind of changed with how those distributions go and negotiations with the counties. 00:11:45
And the school, there's no longer negotiation with the schools. 00:11:51
They are now set by statute based on the prior amount. 00:11:55
Some Z of wind and this is really what we were hoping to talk with you about. 00:12:00
Let me ask a question before we Yes Sir. 00:12:03
Continue so I'm I'm interested in the. 00:12:06
Payments amount of taxes to the corona schools. 00:12:09
I'm reading what 75,000 and Change. 00:12:13
Yes, Sherman. Sherman. 00:12:16
Over what time period? 00:12:19
Mr. Chairman, those payments are. 00:12:20
Those end up being those are annual payments I believe that are going to between the county and the school districts. 00:12:24
And at that time it was negotiated. 00:12:30
Those are annuals. 00:12:33
OK, you don't see those changing because they're statutorily mandated. 00:12:35
Mr. Chairman, those are based off the amount of the installed megawatts and so those were the agreed upon amounts. 00:12:39
At that time, the statute required a negotiation between the county. 00:12:46
And the public schools. 00:12:49
And an average about 67% to the county and 33% to the school district. 00:12:51
That is, that was in statute and those were the bonds that were issued for the Western Spirit project for Red Cloud Wind. 00:12:56
Under those IRB. 00:13:04
So those amounts should not change. I get it now. So another question if you don't mind. 00:13:05
The seven full time staff. 00:13:11
And then 8 supplemental employees at the. 00:13:13
These are the number of employees that you intend to have. 00:13:17
On staff. 00:13:19
For the foreseeable future. 00:13:21
Mr. Chairman Fisher, that's correct for the Red Cloud. These are. This is specifically for this new wind farm. 00:13:24
On Western Spirit as a whole, it's comprised of those four projects on there, as you can see, finds corners up in green. 00:13:30
The Red Mesa, Tecolote and Red Cloud. 00:13:36
So there are four separate wind farms under the umbrella of Western Spirit. 00:13:39
That causes one of those. Those are the employees that operate REC. 00:13:43
All together we have about 34 full time staff. 00:13:47
Right now we don't have 34 full time staff. That's what we've anticipated would like to have. 00:13:51
What we have right now is about 27 full time staff that operate maintained westerns there. 00:13:57
Including this red card project. 00:14:02
And what? What? 00:14:04
Defines A supplemental employer that's part time. There's a. 00:14:05
So because the way that most of these projects and Sunsia will operate this exact same way. 00:14:09
When we build projects, we have operations and maintenance contracts with the turbine supplier. 00:14:14
In this case, these were GE turbines. On Western spirits, there were 377 GE turbines. 00:14:20
And under that O&M contract, GE for a period of years actually operate and maintain the facility. 00:14:26
So while we say they're patterned employees, for the most part they're GE employees. We do have our full-time patent staff on 00:14:33
board. 00:14:36
From our facilities manager, our assistant facilities manager. 00:14:39
As well as our own technicians that work side by side with GE techs. 00:14:43
And essentially what happens is GE. 00:14:47
Is required to under that service contract to maintain. 00:14:50
So what GE is able to do because they do also have the Aragon Mesa Wind farm which is a. 00:14:54
They are able to use what they. 00:15:00
Called traveling technicians that will float between sites as needed. 00:15:03
To help operate and maintain the facility. 00:15:07
What will happen at the end of the service contract though is pattern goes self perform. 00:15:10
Which will actually on western spirit should be in another 3 1/2 years. 00:15:14
We will go to full self perform. 00:15:20
And most of the time what happens is because the workers have been here working and operating. 00:15:22
They will just transition over from GE right into full-time pattern technicians. 00:15:28
And they will stay with the project. 00:15:32
One of the things that we have had though and struggled with. 00:15:34
Is because we thought and higher GE higher as well as pattern technicians that. 00:15:38
Are not from New Mexico. 00:15:43
They have come in and what we have had is a number of those workers that are accustomed to being. 00:15:45
In a major metropolitan area in 30 minutes. 00:15:50
And they have left. And So what we've had is we have had higher turnover than we would like. 00:15:53
And so one of the things that Sarah and I and a number of other colleagues are working on right now is workforce development with 00:15:58
not only the high schools but the community colleges as well. 00:16:03
We've been working hand in hand with Clovis Community College trying to get them some turban parts. 00:16:08
So that they can train their technicians on sites. 00:16:14
And then Sarah been involved with American Clean Power. 00:16:17
And Clean Power Institute, part of. 00:16:21
Automated training program to try and get technicians certified in a quicker manner. 00:16:23
And we are working through all of that now because where we would like to be is hiring more New Mexicans. We're accustomed. 00:16:28
For for all of you and you know, two hours for us is just around the corner. 00:16:35
For a lot of these folks, two hours is a long drive. 00:16:39
On Western Spirit, we've got four that live in Albuquerque, we've got two that live in Roslyn, we've got one that lives in Clovis. 00:16:42
And so part of this is to try and retain and hire more New Mexicans as these projects continue throughout time. 00:16:50
So that we can have those. 00:16:55
Starting salary for the wind technician. These are students that can go in. 00:16:57
Get their WINS certificate in 18 to 24 months depending on which program they do. 00:17:02
Starting salary is about 59,000. 00:17:06
And then from there it ratches up facilities managers are around 100 and. 00:17:08
All right. So are you working with ENMUR? 00:17:13
We had a number of conversations. 00:17:17
With Ryan and and other folks there, we've tried over the years. 00:17:19
Sarah most recently was part of the conversation with community colleges. 00:17:23
Including. 00:17:28
OK. Thank you. 00:17:31
Yes, Sir. 00:17:33
So, and again, I won't go through all of these details. 00:17:35
When we were here last. 00:17:40
When we talked in December. 00:17:42
We had mentioned at that time that there was a possibility of an upgrade of the GE turbines. 00:17:44
From 3.6 MW machines to the 3.8. 00:17:50
We have made that decision to go ahead and do the upgrade, So what this actually is translating to? 00:17:53
Is for Lincoln County specifically, there's 574 turbines that come in at about 21181 megawatts. 00:18:00
These were authorized under 2 separate industrial revenue bonds. 00:18:07
Mesa canyons, the ones that we did in 2020 were under a prior statute. 00:18:11
Which incorporate which required. 00:18:15
Differences with the schools. 00:18:18
And then the other portion were issued in 2022. 00:18:21
Where you see the difference there In 2020, the county got 67%. 00:18:25
Where the Corona and Carrizo, the schools split their remaining 33%. 00:18:31
Between them. 00:18:35
And there's 904 megawatts on now envisioned in those IRB with this upgrade. 00:18:37
In 2022 IRB Bond. 00:18:43
That were authorized, that was under another statutory chain. 00:18:46
Which requires the school to be paid on the prior years tax rose. 00:18:50
And So what that one does is it actually increased the county portion to 69.36%. 00:18:55
With the all of the school districts in the county. 00:19:02
All the way from Hondo. 00:19:06
Right. You know we'd also captain Arizona Corona. 00:19:08
All of them splitting an equal share of 30.64%. I've got a breakdown on the next page. 00:19:12
That will help with that. 00:19:18
With this upgrade, that now brings the total authorized under those IRB's. 00:19:19
To 1277 megawatts. 00:19:24
Those also, I'll remind the Commission, had an escalator of 2 1/2% every five years. 00:19:27
That also increases, so the numbers that will be reflected on this page. 00:19:32
On the next page, we'll walk through that. 00:19:37
Of this though, you've got the breakdown again. We talked about this in December and I won't take it up your time unless you'd 00:19:40
like me to. 00:19:44
Go through this but what I really wanted to focus on. 00:19:48
Is what the difference is being the word the County Down? I apologize there's a typo. 00:19:51
On your presentation is GE up rate from 3.6. It should have been 3.8 MW machines. 00:19:57
But what this upgrade does? 00:20:03
Is really increased. 00:20:05
The amount over the 30 year period. 00:20:07
To another $6.2 million that is coming into the county in the school district. 00:20:10
The breakdowns here is the. 00:20:15
Commission will recall. 00:20:18
What we? 00:20:20
Because we were not able to finish the project. 00:20:21
Within the time frame allotted, what we, the Commission, had accepted is a catch up payment provision. 00:20:24
Where we make payments, small payments to the county because we were still in construction, start down at 50,000. 00:20:30
100,100 thousand. 00:20:36
But we wanted to make sure that the county was paid for the full 30 years. 00:20:38
And So what we between Pattern and the county we had agreed upon. 00:20:43
Is doing a catch up payment. 00:20:48
So what you will have in 2026 is a fairly large catch up payment. 00:20:49
That will be coming in and then it drops down back to what the county should be seeing normally. 00:20:55
So in 2026, that payment to the county. 00:21:00
Next year will be almost $13 million. 00:21:05
And almost $6 million that will be split up amongst the school districts. 00:21:08
If you go into 2027, those are the amounts that are more representative. 00:21:13
Of what you and your county manager. 00:21:19
And finance professionals can understand is the amount that will. 00:21:22
And we'll be sharing everything. 00:21:27
Of course with the manager on these details. 00:21:29
Down below though, these numbers have been updated and reflected. You can see on the right hand side the percentages based on the 00:21:32
differences with the. 00:21:36
All of the. 00:21:39
Iron Beach statutory changes. 00:21:42
But down below is what we really wanted to focus on and this was. 00:21:44
When we run this out through 2052, it just gets a little unwieldy. 00:21:48
So we for purposes of here, we wanted to roll it down into five year increments so that you can understand. 00:21:51
Exactly what the county will be getting. 00:21:58
But again, those numbers up in 2027 are pretty representative of what you can under expect every year. 00:22:00
And also we'll include, you know, that 2 1/2% escalator every five years on the 2022 item. 00:22:07
So. So if you don't want a Commission, so I've got. 00:22:14
Questions So so the political climate supporting. 00:22:19
Quote UN quote, green energy appears to be changing. Not to use a bad metaphor, but the winds are shifting a bit. 00:22:25
Based on. 00:22:33
Then more clear understanding of what the cost benefit ratios are. 00:22:34
And in addition to that, some realities with respect to. 00:22:40
With the financial? 00:22:45
Climate here in. 00:22:47
Fiscally and the federal government. 00:22:48
What impact? 00:22:52
Anticipated. Or maybe you're just ignoring it. Or maybe you'd see none. 00:22:56
In terms of. 00:23:00
Lots of subsidies. 00:23:01
Tax breaks etc. 00:23:06
What would that? 00:23:08
What would that impact possibly be on these pills? 00:23:09
Projections that you have. 00:23:12
Mr. Chairman and Commissioners appreciate the question that will actually what's happening in the federal level. 00:23:14
And the changes that are being talked about why have absolutely no impact on the pill payments coming in? 00:23:20
These projects are already pre qualified because they were started under the prior administration and the prior laws. 00:23:25
And so they're actually grandfathered in under the tax credit scenario. 00:23:31
What we have seen is some of the tariffs have increased, some of the components that are still coming in. 00:23:34
But we had already envisioned. 00:23:40
Potential changes to vote. 00:23:42
So in each of our contracts predominantly on steel and one of the big ones. 00:23:43
We have factored in for the account if there are changes and fluctuations in there. 00:23:48
Where and we negotiated those with those manufacturers. 00:23:53
Where we would pick up a portion of the cost and they would. 00:23:56
The others. 00:23:59
In certain instances, in other instances because we lost in. 00:24:00
Because on the main power Transformers, our contracts require because the lead times about 20-4 months. 00:24:04
When we locked in those contracts, we had already. 00:24:10
Lock in pricing on that contract. So they actually have no impact on those. 00:24:13
So the other thing that I would mention is. 00:24:18
Even though there are things happening at the federal level. 00:24:21
80% of the Western United States is now aligned on the decarbonization goals, meaning that each of those states. 00:24:24
Have passed laws mandating utilities. 00:24:31
To be at certain percentages of renewable energy and by certain set periods of time. 00:24:34
What that requires is 9 gigawatts of new deal just to mean. 00:24:39
Current. 00:24:43
In a nine gigawatts of new build from 2026 through 2035. 00:24:44
In order to meet those demands. 00:24:49
And so regardless. 00:24:51
Of what's taking place at the current potential changes at the federal level. 00:24:53
What we're actually still looking at is that longer term horizon. 00:24:58
And we are still seeing extremely strong demand for this product in particular. 00:25:02
We have now contracted out around 57%. 00:25:07
Of Sanjay and that was intentional. We've been holding on some of that. 00:25:10
Because what we've still seen is the price increase on those power purchase agreements. 00:25:14
Over the last 2 1/2 years. 00:25:19
And so because those are utilities, particularly in the Western US. 00:25:21
Are still trying to meet those renewable portfolio standards as mandated by their state legislature. 00:25:26
And so in this case. 00:25:31
In particular and. 00:25:32
Changes at the federal level will have impacts on future projects. 00:25:35
But as far as Lincoln County is concerned? 00:25:38
And western spirit and Sun Zia. 00:25:42
You don't envision the changes having any impact on these amounts that you're seeing here. I don't share that confidence, but 00:25:44
that's that's fine. 00:25:48
Of water consumption is an extraordinarily important. 00:25:52
Topic for this county in the region. 00:25:56
As you may or may not, I'm sure you're aware of what's going on. What happened in Capitan? 00:26:00
And and and I would ask where where are you getting? 00:26:09
In lieu of Capitan. 00:26:12
So Miss Sherman, commissioners appreciate the question and we are aware we've been monitoring that. 00:26:14
So we started. 00:26:19
About what we started about 3 1/2 years ago. 00:26:21
When John Dantonio and I've worked a lot with John D'antonio, former New Mexico State engineer. 00:26:26
John and I have done a lot of work when I sat on the Water Trust board. 00:26:32
A number of years ago we actually retained John when he left and was became a consultant. 00:26:36
And we mapped out every well capable of producing 40 gallons a minute. 00:26:41
And this is on the entire project, including the transmission line all the way from Pinal Central and Arizona. 00:26:46
All the way into New Mexico, including within 30 mile radius because they have to do, you know, being within that basin. 00:26:52
We can't transfer across basins. 00:26:59
So we mapped out what John and I and then another colleague every water well. 00:27:01
Within 30 mile radius, and the goal was to minimize water hauling to no more than 30 miles. 00:27:06
With the and we were able to do that with purchasing water. 00:27:12
From Compound we purchased from a number of private sources as well. 00:27:16
With the water usage. 00:27:20
And you all know. 00:27:22
Waterloo. Certainly better than I do. 00:27:24
But. 00:27:27
Average for an acre of alfalfa. We all listen. 2 1/2 acres feet of. 00:27:28
Water here. 00:27:33
For total water usage. 00:27:34
What you can do are the beneficial or consumptive use is 1.2 acre feet. 00:27:36
The rest is assumed to be a direct recharge to the aquifer. 00:27:41
So when we lease water rights, particularly for a private well or transfer those in. 00:27:45
What we have to do is we have to lease the entire kind of half atrophy. 00:27:51
Even though we're actually only using 1.2 acre. 00:27:56
So in the case of a farmer. 00:27:58
If we are leasing and we have from a number of farmers. 00:28:01
They've agreed to follow field. 00:28:04
And what it actually is that we're using roughly half of what that farmer would traditionally pump out in the ground and use. 00:28:06
For that. 00:28:12
Assuming that some of that is a direct recharge back in the ground. 00:28:13
So on the entire project. 00:28:17
We utilize about 2500 acre feet of water. 00:28:20
Over a three-year period that includes the transmission line. 00:28:24
All the way into Arizona. 00:28:28
And So what we had done. 00:28:31
Is we'd identify those water rights. 00:28:34
Throughout that project. 00:28:37
Over the transmission line pattern took that on, we leased adequate water rights. 00:28:39
And transferred those in. 00:28:44
When we did transfers. 00:28:46
For the transmission line. 00:28:48
A number of the water rights actually were for PM. 00:28:50
Where we are using water there around the Los Lunas and Berlin. 00:28:53
There is also down in dimming. We get water from there. 00:28:57
In TRC, there's a private land owners that have agreed to sell water. In Arizona it's the same. 00:29:00
Those are from predominantly private branches. 00:29:05
In New Mexico for the wind farm, the agreement with our contract with Platinum that they actually identified their own water 00:29:08
sources. 00:29:11
And prepared those, they're utilizing water. 00:29:15
In the Corona area from 4:00, private land owners. 00:29:19
That they have actually leased water. 00:29:23
From and we're purchasing water from. 00:29:25
And also purchased water from captain as you know up until recently. 00:29:27
That is no longer the case and so they are identifying private sources. 00:29:31
Just the old truck that water in the utilized. 00:29:36
Thank you for that. 00:29:40
Clearly an awful lot of water is needed for this project. 00:29:43
Do you, do you see that consumption going down as you? 00:29:47
Complete the construction. 00:29:50
Absolutely, Mr. Chairman, Commissioner, appreciate the question. 00:29:53
Yes, and we did visit with the village Captain Blattner as well as Pattern. 00:29:56
What we are interested in is by about September the heavy. 00:30:01
Having civil work and Jeff can certainly. 00:30:05
Address this in a moment. 00:30:08
But the heavy civil work will be predominantly done. 00:30:10
That's the road to the new roads that are being put in the collection lines. 00:30:13
So a lot of that water consumption we do expect is going to be using quite a bit through September. 00:30:18
And then we do expect it to trail off. 00:30:23
Once the project is complete. 00:30:25
We have this four operations and maintenance facilities, each using less than one acre foot a year, which is about an average 00:30:27
home. 00:30:31
And each of those will drop down. So yes, we are using a lot of water during construction. 00:30:36
And but during that construction period is when that water usage is. 00:30:42
Once the project is done though. 00:30:46
We don't anticipate using more than four acre feet a year. 00:30:49
And when is that? 00:30:52
Imperial construction on the and we'll touch on this in just a moment. 00:30:53
On the transmission line is actually wrapping up here in July on the HVDC station. 00:30:57
Will be wrapped up here in September. 00:31:02
And then on the wind farm, we'll be photographed up in April. 00:31:05
Of next year. 00:31:08
So after April, you anticipate being way down? 00:31:09
We anticipate using no more than 40. 00:31:12
I don't know if this is a good time you want to continue. I have some other questions, but but let's let's go through, maybe 00:31:17
you'll answer them. 00:31:21
OK. And if you don't, I'm sure that. 00:31:26
Some of us will have some more questions. Thank you. 00:31:29
So again, I'm not going to go through this other than just to state again that we are on some of the transmission. 00:31:33
We are actually at this point in time. 00:31:41
Pretty much. 00:31:44
With the all of the structures are in, we've actually started most of the reclamation work. 00:31:46
On the project and we are expecting to be done here in July. 00:31:52
There is still a little bit of straining activity that I'll touch on on the next slide. 00:31:57
But for the most part, the 553 miles. 00:32:01
Of a project that has been in the works since 2006 is almost complete. 00:32:05
So I guess if you wanted to, maybe. 00:32:10
Do you want to jump up here and join me or Sarah? 00:32:13
So moving on and hopefully this will address a little bit more of the questions. 00:32:16
And I'll work through these fairly quickly again, Jeff. 00:32:21
Jeff Overseas Construction, he is construction project manager for South, so if you have his Lincoln County. 00:32:26
So if you have specific questions you have can certainly answer. 00:32:32
But at a high level. 00:32:35
Our number of workers were already seeing drop down. 00:32:37
We did get over 2500 workers. We are not quite at that now. 00:32:40
The east the high voltage DC converter station, which is that portion that's just north of Corona. 00:32:45
Right now is we've got about 250 workers on site 246. 00:32:51
As a Friday. 00:32:56
Valve halls 1 and 2 are about 92% complete. We've started receiving the valves. 00:32:58
These are the components that convert the energy from AC to DC and then saying that 553 miles. 00:33:03
There's an exact facility on the other end that looks very similar. 00:33:10
Convert it back to AC before it goes on the grid. 00:33:14
We have started handling those valves. 00:33:17
They are £55,000 V change from the ceiling. 00:33:20
We have a total of 12 of those in those facilities. 00:33:23
And we are. And once you look at the overall facility, we're about 70% complete. 00:33:26
We envision and the West is very similar as you can see here. 00:33:31
It's on the same time frame. That is the portion that's an all central just South of Phoenix. 00:33:35
And it is on a similar time frame. What we envision is both. 00:33:41
HBDC stations being complete by September. 00:33:45
They this is not like an AC system where. 00:33:48
We could. We could build an AC system now. 00:33:51
And, umm. 00:33:56
Pretty much flip the switch and have a Commission in a couple days. 00:33:57
DC is much, much more complicated. There's a lot different voltage issues that we have to deal with. 00:34:00
So what we're envisioning is about a whole month of commissioning and this is from Hitachi, who's the. 00:34:07
Time contractor and the manufacturer for the HBDC facility itself. 00:34:12
They're figuring at least a month to Commission. 00:34:16
So what we will do is we will finish in September when we have a Commission in October. 00:34:19
With the ability to start sending test power. 00:34:24
Down the wires at that point in time. 00:34:27
We've already touched on transmission line. You can see we're down. 00:34:31
We were at one time nearly 500. 00:34:34
Workers on site were about 287 now. 00:34:37
Again. 00:34:40
Straightening activities 91% complete. 00:34:41
It will be done here in July and then the only thing remaining. 00:34:44
Most of the reclamation is already done as well. 00:34:48
But there will be some that probably carries on a little past July, but for all intensive purposes. 00:34:51
Suddenly, a transmission will be complete here in July. 00:34:56
And then what we do was the HPDC station comes online in October. 00:35:00
Will Commission one point because it's two poles, because it's a DC. 00:35:05
Will Commission 1 poll to make sure that it's capable of handling 1500 bedwas without any issues. 00:35:09
Well then, bring on pole 2. 00:35:14
Same thing, make sure it's capable of handling all 15171 for a total of 3000 megawatts transfer capacity. 00:35:16
The overbuild on this project, as you know is 3650 megawatts is the total wind energy. 00:35:24
Generation and why that is, and Mr. Chairman, you. 00:35:30
You've talked about it in previous information meetings. 00:35:34
Is the wind is blowing? 00:35:37
Roughly 45% of the time. 00:35:39
And So what we were able to do when we do that over built even though the lines at 3000 megawatts. 00:35:41
We're putting 36150. 00:35:46
Is we know. 00:35:49
A good portion of the time that it will not generate. 00:35:50
The full 36150 megawatts. 00:35:53
So by doing that over build, what we're doing is maximizing utilization of the transmission line. 00:35:56
For when the wind is blowing, even if it's at lower wind speeds. 00:36:01
With that over, Bill were able to maximize usage. 00:36:05
Of that line. 00:36:08
And so that's. 00:36:09
Again, that will be taking place. We're nearly done there. 00:36:11
And then we get into the wind Sunday, wind north, and we talked about it in previous meetings. 00:36:14
There is a northern portion of the project which encompasses of roughly a third of those megawatts. 00:36:19
And then there is a self that is entirely based on agreements with Department of Defense. 00:36:24
Where we have signed mitigation agreements where we will do a multi year process. 00:36:30
With DoD as well as NORAD. 00:36:34
On the area that defined buildable area where we can place turbines. 00:36:38
That don't impact. 00:36:43
In a negative way. Military. 00:36:44
So that is why it's split. There's a nine nautical mile stretch in between. 00:36:47
Where most of your F18 pilots are trained. 00:36:52
And so. 00:36:55
Sunday wind north. 00:36:56
We've got over 500 workers on site. 00:36:58
Starting and growing activities are done because it is smaller. We've already got 100% of the foundations are already installed. 00:37:01
And we are now we've started receiving in March. 00:37:08
The best disturbance that are going up there, we now have 9 best disturbance standing. 00:37:13
These are bigger. Those are 4.5 MW machines, so they are bigger than what we're using in the South. 00:37:18
The reason for the difference was multifaceted. 00:37:24
Number one, the wind conditions are different. 00:37:27
So that machine fit better up there. 00:37:30
The other big component though, Mr. you kind of touched on it from a supply constraint, is we didn't want to be beholden to a 00:37:32
single turbine manufacturer. 00:37:36
They also couldn't meet our delivery schedule. There was number. 00:37:41
Single manufacturer that should. 00:37:45
Delivered 11:50 turbines a week. 00:37:47
So we ended up splitting it out. 00:37:49
And that's what Vestas has been able to do is deliver that amount. 00:37:52
As I said, we've got a number of terms on the ground. If you drive up there, you'll see them all on the side. 00:37:56
But that one. 00:38:02
We because we have 100% of the foundation pours already complete. 00:38:04
Front project is moving. 00:38:08
Fairly rapidly. 00:38:10
So, so let's let's let's move on just a little bit. 00:38:11
So. 00:38:15
I think I heard you say. 00:38:16
Correct me if I'm wrong please. 00:38:18
That you're anticipating the entire. 00:38:20
Build out to be completed by July of next year. 00:38:22
Mr. Chairman, the full wind farm Wash, would be done by the end of April. 00:38:26
So everything will be done. 00:38:31
So if I let your. 00:38:33
Your AC to DC. 00:38:35
That'll be done by July of this year. 00:38:37
So what will happen next year? And that's in Sunday. It went South. And Justin touch on this. 00:38:42
There will still be components. There will still be turbines being stood up. 00:38:47
Here in Lincoln County, that stretch into early next year as well as reclamation activity. 00:38:51
Would you have to clear anything you wanted to touch on that? Yeah, I can provide a little bit more detail just on the schedule 00:38:57
and how it ties into the water consumption, which I think is the main concern. 00:39:02
Apologize if I'm not the. 00:39:06
Entirely on the formalities that nor this, but like. 00:39:08
So our. 00:39:11
Jacqueline Vet. 00:39:13
So, civil construction activity. 00:39:15
Is well underway. We're going to be completing our road construction. 00:39:17
Within the next 4 weeks. 00:39:22
And wind turbine foundation construction. 00:39:24
Is also now down into almost completely in zone 7. 00:39:27
So we're expecting Foundation construction to wrap up sometime around Labor Day. 00:39:30
And it's the road construction and the foundation construction are a couple of our heavier water users. 00:39:35
We need the water for the concrete and the foundations, as well As for dust control with concrete trucks, things like that. 00:39:42
So the the Heavy Civil will wrap up. 00:39:48
Towards the end of the summer. 00:39:51
The turbine deliveries and turbine erection. 00:39:52
Will continue through until April of next year, which is what Jeremy is referring to. 00:39:55
We have about 180 turbines erected, 80 of those in the North End of Lincoln County. 00:40:00
And that work will continue through the So yeah, we. 00:40:06
With that, good. 00:40:10
Idea of what the water situation is going to be. So let's go, let's move ahead in April. 00:40:12
You're you're going to be at. 00:40:18
What about the homeostasis? 00:40:20
Situation. In other words, you've got. 00:40:22
Your maintenance personnel required to be there. 00:40:24
There's going to be housing. 00:40:27
That's that's an issue you probably are going to have. 00:40:29
You're going to have some needs with with respect to the. 00:40:33
The public schools. 00:40:36
In those areas. 00:40:37
I'm talking about. 00:40:39
Corona. 00:40:41
And then? 00:40:43
You know, because of the increase in population. 00:40:46
Density. 00:40:49
There's going to be cries. 00:40:50
For increased law enforcement presence. 00:40:52
And capability in that area. 00:40:56
What? What? 00:40:58
This Commission is interested in others trying to understand it. How are those? 00:40:59
How are those changes, what are those changes going to ultimately be? I mean, we're in an interim period. 00:41:05
Right, we know it's. 00:41:10
Flexing requirements or change in the temporary, but there's going to be a more permanent requirement. 00:41:12
But the county will have to bear. 00:41:18
In order to protect and serve the citizens in the northern part of the county. 00:41:22
So the question I have for you is this. 00:41:26
How many? 00:41:29
People. 00:41:31
Families, do you anticipate? 00:41:32
Being here after April 2026. 00:41:34
And where? 00:41:37
Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Commissioners. 00:41:39
We do. Once April is done and the construction workers have moved on, we will move into that full operation and maintenance staff. 00:41:42
What we're envisioning is. 00:41:48
Up to 70, we don't, we're not going to start there. 00:41:51
Which he will think we're going to be around 40 full time. 00:41:53
Individuals to start on the project. 00:41:57
It can rent all the way up to as high as 70. 00:42:00
We would like them to be located near our operation and maintenance facility. 00:42:02
Which are major O&M facility for the South is actually about 25 miles outside of Captain. 00:42:07
I thank you and the commissioners are well aware we've been in conversation with the village. 00:42:13
It has become apparent with the water issues what we were working on. We had placed an offer. 00:42:18
On a 285 acre piece of land where we were looking to build permanent workforce housing. 00:42:23
Which we are anticipating to your one of your question. 00:42:28
About a 6040 splint. About 60% of those will be families. 00:42:31
And about 40% will be single individuals. These are as I mentioned earlier. 00:42:36
These are individuals. A lot of these are younger than. 00:42:40
Graduate high school and be making $60,000 and. 00:42:44
In only two years. 00:42:47
So it's a good. 00:42:49
To get career choice for a number of young students. 00:42:50
And So what we envision is that 6040 split. 00:42:54
Initially to start with around 40 individuals. 00:42:57
Supporting family. 00:43:00
Total or 40 total people so. 00:43:02
From that you can assume you know maybe 26 will have families and family. 00:43:04
So are you still pursuing that? 00:43:10
Let's call it an option there in north of Capitan is you saying no, you're not doing as of today, we are getting a letter outside 00:43:12
my letter authorized signatories withdrawing that application. 00:43:17
And so we and we are walking away from it. 00:43:23
It's become apparent that from the community feedback that that is not of an interest to them. 00:43:26
So what we are doing is now looking at alternatives. 00:43:31
There are housing options there though for our individuals, if they want to purchase and live there or if they wanted to live in 00:43:35
Red House on Drive, they can certainly do that. 00:43:39
Part of the ultimate goal for the potential for a housing development. 00:43:44
Was from a quality of life of our workers and they're not spending so much time on the road. 00:43:48
As I mentioned earlier, we've got a couple, we've got a number that drive over 2 hours one way. 00:43:53
I think we understand that. 00:44:00
That that dynamic and that need. 00:44:02
You know, families, young work. 00:44:04
But but now OK, so. 00:44:07
So that's off the table. 00:44:09
What's what's on the table? 00:44:11
Mr. Chairman and Commissioners were evaluating what those other we don't. 00:44:14
We are still working through that. This has been evolving over the last couple weeks. 00:44:18
And really the feedback from the community and the number of meetings that have been had. 00:44:23
So we are now hitting reset and evaluating what our options is. 00:44:27
So so. 00:44:32
Khurana might be part of that. 00:44:33
Next plan or not? 00:44:35
No, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, again, if one of our individuals wants to live in Corona, they are certainly welcome to do that. 00:44:36
But the major O&M for the South will be just outside of Captain about. 00:44:41
25 minutes out. 00:44:47
And so the reality is, is I think folks living in Corona and driving down is probably not likely. I think they will probably 00:44:49
pursue housing options. 00:44:52
In that cabinet area, possibly Carrizozo or or you know so. 00:44:57
And in the north are major O&M is right there at Kleins Corners, just South of Kleins Corners truck stop. 00:45:01
So what we envision there is investors is only assuming 30 full time workers. 00:45:08
Up in the north. 00:45:13
And between bestest and pattern, we're assuming 30 in the North. 00:45:15
And so there they will either be looking at Moriarty, Edgewood or Santa Rosa. 00:45:18
We don't have the same issue there. 00:45:24
With the lack of housing. 00:45:26
Commission, you have any any questions, other questions? 00:45:32
Continue, Sir. 00:45:37
Initially, absolutely. 00:45:39
So I think that's a good portion. You can see here on the South. 00:45:41
Where as Jeff said, we are about 3/4 of the way through with all our foundation floors. 00:45:45
Which brings us to probably 60% complaint on the overall project. 00:45:51
Again, as we talked today, most of this heavy civil work. 00:45:54
Will be trailing off by September. 00:45:59
And then it's really getting the, it's finishing things. 00:46:01
And it's pulling all that topsoil back over where? Because the way that this works is when we build roads. 00:46:05
Or putting collection lines or foundations, we draw all the topsoil backs. 00:46:11
And then what we do at the end of that? 00:46:17
Infrastructures in we pull all that topsoil back. 00:46:20
Of where it's needed, with the exception of about 16 foot on the roads up to 20. 00:46:24
In certain instances A2 track around urban. 00:46:29
And then we'll bring all that topsoil back and we'll start that reclamation effort. 00:46:32
And that, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 00:46:37
Beyond this is just a couple pictures. 00:46:40
That, you know, we don't need to go through, we have to answer questions. 00:46:42
And address anything else. 00:46:46
Can you touch on what we just go through running roof? 00:46:50
Absolutely. 00:46:53
And again, we appreciate that your county manager coming and meeting with us. 00:46:54
The roads and we understand have been an issue and I think Jeff can certainly touch on us. 00:46:59
As well as Mr. 00:47:04
We did have a meeting with Mr. Hanukkah and his staff. 00:47:06
On this and between Blackner, who is our prime contractor on addressing the road. 00:47:12
And we are doing our best to work on those as we finish up. 00:47:17
Though there's having civil work and things start to travel off, we do expect to be able to get everything up as the road use 00:47:21
agreement requires. 00:47:25
We are mandated under that agreement to bring those roads up to. 00:47:30
The same or better condition when we are fully done. 00:47:34
Which we're working on and Jeff can certainly touch on or Mr. Honeycutt as well, Mr. Chair. 00:47:38
Do you want to say anything on Rd. 00:47:44
Just, you know, we continue to coordinate with Mr. Hunnicutt regularly. I have members of my team that reach in. 00:47:47
At least weekly, just to make sure that we are aligned. 00:47:54
We we tend to address any concerns. It's been an ongoing issue and it's something that's brought up. 00:47:57
Regularly. 00:48:02
So we would like to see something more than. 00:48:04
Coordination. 00:48:06
Action. 00:48:09
I want it to be better. 00:48:11
For those people in the world. 00:48:13
Well, that's it. I want to thank you. 00:48:16
For the presentation, some hard questions but necessary questions. 00:48:19
And. 00:48:24
The water continues to be an issue for all of us and we're focused on it. 00:48:25
One we can talk more. 00:48:30
Thank you. 00:48:33
Thank you. 00:48:34
And, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, the thing I'd like to end with. 00:48:35
The HVDC station that is going in, we would love to host you if anybody would like to see it, there are things there. 00:48:39
Like we talked about in December, they're serial number one on the planet. Nobody's ever done. 00:48:46
It is a unique facility once it is. 00:48:51
Operational, so we can still get in there. 00:48:55
Throughout July 1st. 00:48:57
But then it is positive pressure. It's a full clean room. 00:48:59
And once we energize, nobody will ever go in or out. So if anybody would like to go out and take a tour. 00:49:03
We would not. 00:49:10
To do that, welcome you between now and the month of June. 00:49:12
Please reach out, let me know and I would love to host the Commission else. 00:49:15
I'm sure there'll be a number of. 00:49:20
They're there for the questions. Mr. Chairman, I have a quick question. 00:49:23
We've talked quite a bit and I've heard a lot of your presentations and thank you guys for coming out here and visiting once 00:49:27
again. But there's been a lot of talk about 2026 and that payment and little taxes. 00:49:32
To that $12.8 million, do you have an extended timeline for Windy County? They receive them? 00:49:39
Mr. Chairman, Commissioner, appreciate the question, absolutely. So the agreement and the. 00:49:45
There's different payment terms in there, but in general. 00:49:50
The what it requires is a notice 30 days in advance, a certificate to the county Commission. 00:49:53
Of what the installed megawatts are. 00:49:59
And then it requires a payment by January 2nd. 00:50:02
And so by the 1st of. 00:50:05
2026 you should have that payment in hand. 00:50:07
What we have talked internally in the great Iran is even though we don't have all of the turbines up and standing. 00:50:10
We've already that money is already set aside. 00:50:16
And what we'll be doing with paying the county for everything that's already planned in the county. 00:50:19
So you're going to send in it, you'll have a 30 day. 00:50:23
This time in December, yes, what we do is we are required under the agreement send the certificate, which we will be happy to do, 00:50:28
we always do. 00:50:31
And then we'll be sending that payment bill before that 30 days. 00:50:35
Thank you, Sir. 00:50:39
Thank you. 00:50:42
Yeah, I'll just, I'll just have a quick comment. 00:50:43
It's truly amazing for who? 00:50:46
I'd like to take part of you. 00:50:48
The Crone area kept carrying up quickly. 00:50:50
Things are moving and how much things are changing. 00:50:52
I just like to recognize the responsibilities the county is going to have in this going forward. 00:50:55
Especially in in terms of the short period. 00:50:59
Nearly 2200 workers on this project. 00:51:02
Carries responsibility for Emergency Management. 00:51:07
Services and law enforcement presence. 00:51:09
We've heard a number of. 00:51:12
Constituents, there's concerns up there. 00:51:14
And it's not something we have answered. 00:51:16
For right now, but I just want to recognize the county's responsibilities. 00:51:18
We hold that very seriously. 00:51:23
Anything else? 00:51:26
I'd just like to make a comment. I'm disappointed to hear that you'll withdrew your application. 00:51:29
Because I do believe that. 00:51:34
Private investment is an opportunity to build out our infrastructure. 00:51:37
And what you are doing is needed to. 00:51:41
Diverse fire economy. 00:51:44
It's clear that tourism. 00:51:45
Is not a sustainable. 00:51:47
Part of our economy that we need to use our diversifying. 00:51:49
And I'm really disappointed to see that you all are leaving this opportunity. 00:51:53
As future budgets can be in jeopardy with tourism. 00:51:59
With our wildfires and floods and we can look to government alone to carry us forward. 00:52:03
Hasn't been working for New Mexico this far. 00:52:09
And you all taking this up to another family is very disappointing. 00:52:11
And anything less than you know allowing growth and. 00:52:15
US choosing to remain stagnant as a disservice to every resident that lives in Lincoln County. 00:52:19
Thanks, Mr. Sherman, Commissioner, and again it was. 00:52:25
It was based on feedback. 00:52:28
That we received that, there was a lack of desire for that and what we were requesting was an annexation of that property in the 00:52:30
village. 00:52:33
Leonard and what we. 00:52:37
What would convey to us is that it was not going to be improved and and unsuccessful, which requires us to evaluate other option. 00:52:40
We are here, though, for the long term, as we've talked before. 00:52:47
Pattern is not. 00:52:50
We are not a developer that comes in flips projects. We are long term developers, owners, operators. 00:52:51
We envision being in the. 00:52:56
Lincoln County for at least 50 years, if not longer. 00:52:58
We will continue to make investments at our. 00:53:01
Workers and workforce do move in. 00:53:03
To the areas by homes, they will be paying taxes, they'll be contributing to Lincoln County. 00:53:06
Their kids will go to school here, they'll graduate just like I did from this county. 00:53:11
And and it we are looking. 00:53:15
For them to be long term members and fabrics part of the fabric of. 00:53:18
Of the community. 00:53:22
And live here, and that was part of why we were doing that. 00:53:23
But without the annexation, that was infeasible. 00:53:26
The concerns around water and so now we're having to step back and raise those opportunities will be. 00:53:29
We'd still envision that they will live in Lincoln County. 00:53:34
But it just won't be under that housing account. 00:53:38
Right. And I appreciate that. And maybe we need to find a more sustainable location if water is. 00:53:40
Truly the issue. I haven't seen any data to support that yet. 00:53:46
But maybe looking outside of Carrizo though I know NIMBY is a much heavy and Lincoln County. 00:53:49
Has several failed workforce housing projects. 00:53:55
But we do hope that. 00:54:00
Continue to help us with this issue. 00:54:01
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, very much for your time. 00:54:06
You know county manager. 00:54:10
We we are happy to be here as much. 00:54:13
Or you would like? 00:54:15
We'll always have to come get updates, but again, what we would really love to do. 00:54:17
Is if you're up and sometimes we're going to be working with the manager to come out on the tour. 00:54:21
And then we'd love to host you sometime this month as well. 00:54:27
After this month, things change. In July, it's going to be a lot harder to get into that facility. So if there's an opportunity, 00:54:31
please let us know and I'll. 00:54:34
Working coordinate with you. 00:54:38
We'll do that. 00:54:40
Thank you very much. We appreciate it so. 00:54:42
What I'd like to do, Mr. Manager, is go ahead. 00:54:46
To section 6. 00:54:49
One and two. 00:54:51
I'd like to have these reports done now. 00:54:52
Because some of the other. 00:54:56
So if, if I may, could we have the Lincoln County Detention Center reports? 00:55:02
Not here, but it's not a great representative. 00:55:09
Good morning. Please come come to the table. 00:55:12
I am deputy Warden. 00:55:31
Pony help and so I'm here to. 00:55:33
Represents detention center. I'm warden. Councilman was not able to make it today. 00:55:36
So our average bed camp currently is at 63. 00:55:43
Intakes for the month of May was 114. 00:55:48
We are currently down five officers. 00:55:52
And 2000. 00:55:56
But we have committed interviews and submitted background checks, so we're just sending. 00:55:57
We are also working on. 00:56:02
Doing another onboarding, another nurse. 00:56:04
Our water softener has just been returned. 00:56:09
And we have been starting the boiler for the kitchen. 00:56:11
We found out our funding for the rights program. 00:56:14
Did not get renewed as as of July 1st. 00:56:18
So it will no longer have their eyes program. 00:56:21
The warden has converted a directional officer position. 00:56:26
Into a case manager position. 00:56:29
And this way we can continue to Brexit. 00:56:32
For like functions. 00:56:34
The warden Wilson had proposal to rise July 1st. 00:56:38
Requesting A supplemental program. 00:56:42
Stand for questions. 00:56:46
What was the amount lost? 00:56:48
With not receiving the rise. 00:56:49
I I don't know the actual. 00:56:53
20 minutes, but my understanding is there were several counties. 00:56:55
Who did not get? 00:56:59
I couldn't tell you which ones. 00:57:01
I know Eddie County was a benefit as well. 00:57:05
Do you have any solitaire? Do we have any idea what that amount might be or? 00:57:12
Yeah, commissioners train you, just not Chief Deputy Treasurer. So reflecting last year so we can get a full year picture. 00:57:18
323,000. 00:57:25
Is what the Rights Program brought in for 2324. 00:57:28
How many inmates that we served last year? 00:57:32
With that program. 00:57:35
I couldn't tell you exactly. 00:57:37
I'd like to know. 00:57:39
You know, before we. 00:57:42
We pursue. 00:57:43
With. 00:57:44
Getting more funds. 00:57:46
Supporting more funds? We'd like to know. 00:57:48
What the impact was like? How many will serve? 00:57:51
Do we have any idea of what the citizen is? 00:57:54
With those those inmates with it. 00:57:57
Went through the program. 00:57:59
So you might, you might shut that down and. 00:58:01
Ross can come back next month. 00:58:03
Any other questions? 00:58:05
Thank you so much. 00:58:08
Benton County Medical Center. Mr. Chairman, I apologize. Todd called me last night and told me he had another conflicting. 00:58:12
So we'll get him on a presentation on that. 00:58:19
North floor service is that. 00:58:25
Everything here I don't see it. 00:58:26
I did not know that they were invited. 00:58:31
This is particularly important with our. 00:58:35
One of the things that we're going to talk about later, that they should be here. 00:58:40
Mexico State University Extension Service. 00:58:45
Really wonderful. Fantastic. 00:58:48
One that keeps us fed, that. 00:58:51
Chairman, Fisher, Commissioners, Melody Gaines, Lincoln County Extension Summit. 00:58:57
Through science and for Jacobs. 00:59:02
This last week we had our animal. 00:59:04
Tag in days for the County Fair animals we have. 00:59:06
50 pigs, 60 lambs and 70 goats. 00:59:10
They were tagged last week. 00:59:13
Last week, Lincoln County hosted the Southwest Livestock School. 00:59:15
90 kids from across the state attended along with their parents and 4H agents. 00:59:19
And that was held. 00:59:23
Well attended 3 days last week it was. 00:59:26
It was a lot of fun to be there with our office. Did 2 meals for them. There's 160 participants. 00:59:29
90 kids. 00:59:36
And eleven of those kids were from right here in Lincoln County. 00:59:37
It was nice to see those little young faces out there. 00:59:41
Livestock school gives. 00:59:44
Kids that it gives them a solid opportunity to. 00:59:46
Learn how to. 00:59:51
Raising to feed their animal. 00:59:52
And it's not just the kid, but also the parents. 00:59:54
A lot more confidence in. 00:59:57
In the film program, sometimes it can be. 00:59:59
A little rough when you. 01:00:02
When you ask a person who's. 01:00:04
Been in a show program or show business a long time? 01:00:06
A lot of times. 01:00:09
You, you just need to have hands on and be there and and learn how to do it and. 01:00:11
We were thrilled that so many parents. 01:00:16
For their with their children. 01:00:19
Because it takes a family. 01:00:20
His brother today's 11. 01:00:22
It was a very nice event. So that was the Southwest Blackstock School. 01:00:24
And. 01:00:29
Upcoming events we have. 01:00:32
A jackpot that's going to happen this weekend. 01:00:33
Utilizing photographs again and it'll be kids from all over the state brings. 01:00:36
They're so animals. 01:00:41
They will probably be able. 01:00:43
We had lots of comments last week. 01:00:46
About our facility again, I mean, I can't stress to you all enough. 01:00:48
How wonderful those facilities are and how impressive they are. 01:00:53
To everybody across the state when they come. 01:00:56
And we're, we're just thrilled to have that. 01:00:59
Next week we have 25 kids from Lincoln County going to our district contest. 01:01:03
District contests are. 01:01:08
Held this year in curriculum. We're in a 13 district. 01:01:10
Huntington County District. 01:01:13
Each year we take turns. 01:01:14
Being a host, Lincoln County will be the host in two years. 01:01:16
But. 01:01:19
Each county takes a turn and then all our little kids just go to those different areas and. 01:01:20
They get to meet those kids from all those different. 01:01:25
Counties that they will essentially grow up with and essentially go to college with. 01:01:28
If they stay as safe and sometimes even if. 01:01:33
But it's a it's a good opportunity for those kids. 01:01:36
To meet. 01:01:39
We got Clover by Day coming up on June 26th. That's for. 01:01:41
Youngest 4 agers ages 5 to 9. 01:01:46
We'll have that all sort of paragraphs. 01:01:48
State 4H conference for our oldest kids ages. 01:01:52
13 to 19 July 17 two. 01:01:55
County Fair, August. 01:01:59
Fairground. 01:02:09
And the positive feedback is is good. 01:02:11
They're much appreciated, all that work. 01:02:15
And we'll be at the jackpot next week. 01:02:17
Father's Day. 01:02:19
I'll just I'll just make an put tension. 01:02:21
Sergeant Joe Bailey's. 01:02:25
Kids are heavily involved in this. 01:02:27
And it's a wonderful thing to hear and see. The whole family actually is right, so I know. 01:02:30
It's a lot of work, so. 01:02:36
Thank you very much. 01:02:38
I don't see anybody from Upper Hondo. Am I missing something? 01:02:41
To be that's another miss. 01:02:44
Got some questions I'm sure. 01:02:54
I don't know if heaven, but we'll try. 01:02:56
Commissioner Ward off with the southwestern mountain of RC and D Council. 01:03:01
In my. 01:03:06
Restarting down of notes, I apologize I look to be very African heavy on this report. 01:03:06
We will start with the EWP. 01:03:13
We are fully obligated. 01:03:16
On our first go round of the budget. 01:03:18
We are down to. 01:03:21
I want to say just a little bit about 7 million that has not been extended. So we are wrapping that up. 01:03:24
We did receive word that we have received from the state the $4 million. 01:03:30
Matching funds that we are asking for so that. 01:03:36
You can expand that budget by 16,000,012 will come from USDA or from the state. So we're just waiting for confirmation from 01:03:41
Washington that. 01:03:46
That additional funding will be made available to. 01:03:52
So when that happens, you guys will be presented with new agreements. 01:03:55
Decide so that we can continue those works. 01:03:59
I wish I had all of the statistics because it's pretty phenomenal. 01:04:03
The amount of. 01:04:07
Sediment and debris and. 01:04:09
Trash racks and sediment ponds and everything else that have been done in anticipation of trying to prepare for this year's. 01:04:12
Monsoon at the meeting we had last week. 01:04:20
We talked about. 01:04:23
Over half 1,000,000 cubic yards. 01:04:25
A sediment has been removed and. 01:04:27
Think of a football field 300 feet high, full of sediment that has come out of the the area so. 01:04:30
That's I think. 01:04:38
That the guys have done is phenomenal and they should be commended for that. 01:04:40
I still want to caution people that. 01:04:44
Because I hear it from folks. Don't you think we're done? 01:04:46
With the flooding and you know we will be having. 01:04:50
High water events and. 01:04:53
I'm just hopeful that we've been able to. 01:04:56
Prevent some additional damage to the area moving forward. 01:04:59
I still get. 01:05:03
A lot of questions about the buyout. We are still pursuing that with the CDG who met with. 01:05:05
Mr. Burns and Mr. Coleman on. 01:05:12
Moving forward with that, we did find out that we're not. 01:05:15
Allowed to. 01:05:19
We are allowed to use CDBG funds as match. 01:05:21
That was the business. What we're not allowed to do is purchase property with it. 01:05:25
But given the fact that we anticipate that 50% of that whole project is probably going to be removal. 01:05:30
Of umm. 01:05:37
Any kind of. 01:05:38
Utilities and cleanup of the lots and taking it back to green space, I feel comfortable that we can use that match. 01:05:40
For that persistent and still meet our obligations. 01:05:47
To be able to do that. 01:05:51
So that's kind of the way we're looking at. 01:05:52
Any progress on the estimate of what that total buyout? 01:05:56
Dollar amounts can be. 01:06:00
In round numbers, obviously it has been. 01:06:02
From the match size is the only thing that I've been looking at is. 01:06:08
Anywhere from what we think we can get, anywhere from 12 to 30. 01:06:12
Million. 01:06:18
Because I think honestly. 01:06:19
Over 100 million is not unrealistic. 01:06:22
For purchase of property and then the remediation. 01:06:24
Of that property. 01:06:28
So I, I think our budget is basically going to be based off of. 01:06:30
What can we get match wise? 01:06:35
And then we build from that if we get more funding than. 01:06:37
We realized. 01:06:41
Then we can expand. 01:06:43
So my assumption, my assumption is that there's going to have to be some analysis and. 01:06:46
The hierarchy of. 01:06:51
Properties that we think this is more important. 01:06:52
I think we rely on NRCS. 01:06:55
For giving us that hierarchy, that prioritization, are we getting that information from that? 01:06:58
Oh absolutely. They we've already sent them our. 01:07:03
This is here's our hope for area and then. 01:07:08
Once we get the actual budget in place, then we will whittle that down that based on FEMA match what maps will be using I think so 01:07:11
basically and and. 01:07:15
Jason, you might be able to answer that more accurately, but I believe that. 01:07:20
Because basically what we have learned is Val that we have. 01:07:25
Flood way distinction versus. 01:07:29
Blood plain and they're not going to permit anything in the flood way. 01:07:31
That's gonna be our number one. 01:07:36
Priority area is any property that. 01:07:39
That flood way. 01:07:42
On there so. 01:07:45
That's kind of where we start. 01:07:46
And then like I said. 01:07:49
We're looking at the real Ruidoso, but we have to look at Cedar Creek. We have to look at all of these other. 01:07:51
Areas. 01:07:57
That have significant impacts as far as what's coming down, sediment lines and that type of thing so. 01:07:58
Thankfully I will not be doing that, but we'll be using here. 01:08:05
Information So I understand the CDBG Dr. can be used for the match for a buyout program. Where does the actual? 01:08:10
Then NRCS would provide. 01:08:18
Yeah. So 70 years, it'll be the same type thing as a. 01:08:21
As a standard program, that 75% will come from USDA. 01:08:25
And then 25% will come from the CDC. 01:08:30
Normally we cannot match federal with federal. 01:08:34
Put CDG pins. 01:08:37
Are we going to have to follow all of the same rules that NRCS has? 01:08:42
Under the ION program through USDA. 01:08:47
Correct. And then also the HUD program. 01:08:50
We'll have to. We'll have to marry those two and make sure that we're looking all qualifications. 01:08:53
And and from my understanding, the disaster relief. 01:08:59
The CDP GDR is kind of a new. 01:09:04
Program. 01:09:08
That's so I don't know all of the. 01:09:09
Restrictions, rules, or anything like that. I'm kind of learning as we go. 01:09:13
So my understanding of Mr. Coleman, correct me if I'm wrong. 01:09:18
The applications aren't even going to be available till July or August. 01:09:24
Correct. And there's still some layout of the federal level that I understand maybe four to six months out? 01:09:28
So it's it's not going to be quick. I literally got a text while we were in the meeting today from one of the property owners. 01:09:35
Do you know anything? 01:09:42
He has added. 01:09:43
So. 01:09:45
That's one of those things we're wanting to be as prepared as possible when those applications are released. 01:09:47
So that Mister Coleman can can get right on that and we have plenty of time. 01:09:53
To provide the. 01:09:58
Correct information and do a very solid application. 01:09:59
So that's we're working together with the county on doing that. We were. 01:10:04
Approved for. 01:10:09
The MRP, which is emergency forest restoration program. 01:10:10
That is run through FSA, which is Farm Services Agency. 01:10:15
We are. 01:10:20
Learning about that program as well. 01:10:22
That is going to be run through New Mexico Forestry Division. 01:10:25
We are planning on having a public meeting on July 9th. 01:10:30
From 5:30 PM to 8:00, that will be at Ian and New. 01:10:35
And that is where we actually are planning on discussing all of the available programs. 01:10:40
To property owners. 01:10:47
Because the normal EWP, we close those applications on May 31st. 01:10:48
But Forestry Division still has their program open, which is doing the contour fouling and that type of thing. 01:10:53
This new program that EFRP will. 01:11:00
That we'll be able to give folks an update on. 01:11:02
The buyout program, even if the update is just. 01:11:06
It's been we're hoping that we're successful on it. 01:11:11
So put that on your calendars and plan on attending. 01:11:15
I do have. 01:11:21
I just literally finally got last week the agreement for the community wildfire defense grants. 01:11:23
That I know. See, I told you acronym PWD. 01:11:30
We were actually awarded that two years ago to two years to get the agreement to us, but we did get that through. 01:11:35
That is approximately 780,000 and that is for us to be sitting. 01:11:42
Within. 01:11:48
Properties. Private properties, but they are county properties. 01:11:50
But they are right basically in. 01:11:53
Ruidoso area, so off of Carrizo Canyon. This was the area we originally had. 01:11:58
Yeehaw and Alpine Village in that part of that program they burned over. So we have kind of pivoted will be over in my Camelot 01:12:04
area, those types of things. 01:12:09
But we'll be doing thinning project in there and start that as soon as possible. That's very exciting. 01:12:13
How are? How are you working at with? 01:12:21
With the county manager and his team. 01:12:24
In coordinating and collaborating with, we already have. 01:12:27
Because that program comes through, it is actual federal funds running through New Mexico Forestry Division down with us. 01:12:31
So we have already. 01:12:40
Highlighted and actually targeted specific properties already. 01:12:42
But as always, we. 01:12:47
County Management. 01:12:49
Appraised of what we're doing. 01:12:50
Forestry Mortgage. 01:12:53
Who? Yeah. Yeah. 01:12:56
And so Mitch will be helping me. 01:13:00
With doing actual property assessments. 01:13:03
And then we'll be hiring contractors to go in and and clear those properties. 01:13:06
Time manager Obviously this this ties the dovetails with our efforts. 01:13:12
And so we we. 01:13:16
What we want to do, $750,000 sounds like a lot of money. It's not very quickly. 01:13:17
What we don't, what we don't want to do is. 01:13:24
Checkerboard our efforts in such a way that. 01:13:27
They're ineffectual. 01:13:30
Right in effect. 01:13:31
So we can combine. 01:13:33
And we're talking in that, by the way. 01:13:35
And and Mitch and and Laura McCarthy and so forth. 01:13:37
But if we can combine our efforts to actually focus on a broader area. 01:13:41
You might have the chance. 01:13:45
Of saving the neighborhood. 01:13:47
Correct. And that's why we highlighted. 01:13:49
Most people don't realize that it's county property, but as you come in on Carrizo and if you were going to turn left going up 01:13:53
towards Grindstone Lake. 01:13:57
That whole area there is county. 01:14:01
But it's right smack in the middle of Rio, so should we have an ignition there? 01:14:04
We're on the same page in general, but I think. 01:14:10
Closer coordination, collaboration is important. We'll get. 01:14:13
I'm sure county manager and his team will get with Nick, et cetera. 01:14:17
And we are finishing up on our project in Lincoln. 01:14:22
That grant ends the end of this month. 01:14:26
Because that is through New Mexico counties and we followed the fiscal year on that one. 01:14:29
And then? 01:14:34
I am late because I've been doing a few other things. I'm getting the RFP out for the community wildfire. 01:14:35
The CWPP. 01:14:43
And so our protection plan and will be. 01:14:44
Putting that out just as soon as possible. 01:14:48
We also have just started the grant for the Smokey Bear Historic. 01:14:51
Park and updating all of their outdoor. 01:14:57
Area making it more accessible to. 01:15:01
The community and updating their boardwalk and their irrigation system. 01:15:05
And all that type of stuff that is a planning grant. So what we hope to have by the end of that of this year on that. 01:15:08
Is fully ready. 01:15:15
Plans so that we can hand them off and go looking for funding to actually implement those. 01:15:16
And we also submitted a grant on their behalf to the Mexico Tourism Department. 01:15:23
Because it's the 50th anniversary of. 01:15:29
Historic Park of Smokey Bear Historic Park next year, so we wanted some additional funds for them to be able to use to promote. 01:15:33
Their 50th anniversary on that. 01:15:40
So I can't answer any questions. 01:15:43
Great work as always. Well, thank you all very much. We appreciate and. 01:15:50
I don't know in my. 01:15:55
On any other agenda items for you that I need? 01:15:56
So so thanks again. 01:16:02
Let's move on. 01:16:08
We'll go back and follow the. 01:16:10
#4. 01:16:14
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, so. 01:16:21
We had a meeting and this is this has been something that we've. 01:16:24
Discussed and and. 01:16:28
I very much feel like we'll play and and work very much into our. 01:16:31
Efforts that we want to do with a lot of our initiatives. 01:16:37
And programs. 01:16:41
With public information, public outreach. 01:16:43
We've done a little looking around and come to find out. 01:16:49
Gentleman next to me is Matt Ingram with Zombie. 01:16:53
Mountain Zombie LLC. 01:16:56
Which is a marketing program. Yes, Sir. 01:16:57
Marketing company, I apologize. Agency. There you go. 01:17:01
They've done a lot of workforce in the past. 01:17:06
A lot of things that I think that we want to see come to fruition. 01:17:09
Mr. Ingram's already created. 01:17:14
Really what the presentation is today. 01:17:16
Is for him to present. 01:17:19
What he can bring and do for the county. 01:17:20
As far as a social media basis, as far as a website basis. 01:17:23
For some of these initiatives and programs that we're rolling out. 01:17:26
Now, because our information and how we get information to our. 01:17:30
Constituents to our public. 01:17:35
Is very much. 01:17:37
An important aspect of what we do, of what you do as Commissioners, so. 01:17:39
With that, I'm gonna. 01:17:43
Plug into. 01:17:44
We're just going to do this. 01:17:46
I know, right? 01:17:59
Let's start the three model sooner than. 01:18:00
Anyway. 01:18:05
Good morning, Commissioners, County Manager. Thank you so much for having me. This is kind of a. 01:18:06
Curtailing off of what we had done last year with a. 01:18:11
Kind of a revitalization effort, as you will. 01:18:15
After the fires, we went in and done a digital billboard. 01:18:18
Campaign social media campaign. 01:18:22
As well as. 01:18:25
You know, get a website and digital app development. 01:18:28
Within the campaign that we did there. So we ran it for 90 days, if you guys were familiar with last summer. 01:18:32
Unfortunately, after 90 days, there was no more funds for us to continue on. 01:18:37
With our effort so. 01:18:42
The approach today is to come after a professional services agreement over a course of 12 months to just oversee the social media. 01:18:43
Website. 01:18:52
Any type of advisors in management through the company? 01:18:53
For Lincoln County. 01:18:57
Understand that Ruidoso is really the hub of the community, but these outlying folks or these satellite? 01:18:58
Of communities that we have really getting the interest in the draw. 01:19:05
Going out and showcasing these. 01:19:09
You know, events and businesses. 01:19:12
Just kind of tell the story of Lincoln County so. 01:19:16
I'm not sure why we're not detecting. 01:19:19
Advice here. 01:19:23
Might be a knock knock. 01:19:27
I had lazy. 01:19:29
The basically an outline of the proposal. 01:19:32
On your desk there the ideas for us is to. 01:19:36
Just my marketing team will go out create the content. 01:19:40
Produce all the videos, the photos. 01:19:43
Put those on the social platforms that we've already have developed. 01:19:46
With that. 01:19:50
I think that would be able to really tell the story of linking Downing. 01:19:52
Already be established in Instagram, Facebook, tick tock platform that actually has traction behind it. 01:19:56
And then if you guys are familiar with the visit Linco website. 01:20:02
That's good. 01:20:08
The Visit Linco website, which actually has all of our RV parks, businesses, restaurants. 01:20:10
The app supports our website and that you can go in there and actually track. 01:20:17
All the special events that are going on, you can find out where all of our RV parks are across the county. 01:20:21
I've actually gone in there and developed. 01:20:28
A page for each one of our business owners on there and leave their Facebook pages to our website. 01:20:30
So just kind of an additional support to to our business owners in the. 01:20:36
In the county. 01:20:40
Just kind of moving through this, our website was developed by a company called Visit Widget. 01:20:43
They actually did an in kind build for us, about a $20,000 bill. 01:20:49
During last summer. 01:20:54
This was all in kind. It is a $800 a month. 01:20:56
Service fees starting August 1st. 01:21:00
To continue our website and our digital app. 01:21:03
That we have for Lincoln County. 01:21:06
So just want to be transparent on that since it has been about a year since we wrapped up our our last campaign. 01:21:08
Really for us is, you know. 01:21:15
The ad spends and buys is if we can work with the New Mexico Tourism Department, we're able to do that. Last year with $25,000, 01:21:17
they did a match with us. So we. 01:21:22
Ultimately created a $50,000. 01:21:27
Digital ad buy that went through Odessa Midlands. 01:21:29
The photos that we took were were put on the side of the billboards, digital buys. So we're not buying just a traditional. 01:21:34
Final print These are messaging that we can update. 01:21:40
Working with the tourism department would be a good way just to leverage funds. 01:21:44
Also, we could work with other strategic partners, other counties, to maybe leverage some of the funding. 01:21:47
To the highlight and showcase some of the stuff that we have in county. 01:21:54
Commission. Excuse me, County manager. 01:21:58
Jason and I were discussing all the stuff that will be happening in Roswell in the coming years with the. 01:22:01
The new airplane race series that they have coming in and there's ways that we can cross promote. 01:22:07
And drive traffic to some of our. 01:22:12
You know, lodging establishments, that would really kind of be the idea. 01:22:14
Again, just focusing on. 01:22:17
You know, tourism has kind of been the narrative that we have stuck with. 01:22:19
But we're also opening to sharing messaging that, you know, Commission. 01:22:22
Would want to share to. 01:22:26
You know, basically your audience. 01:22:29
I think our audience a lot is going to be focusing on the Texas clientele. 01:22:31
And demographic. 01:22:36
As far as? 01:22:38
Building out websites, all that stuff, we would just keep everything current. I actually went through the website. We do have 01:22:40
some. 01:22:43
Businesses that have closed down and we've had some new businesses open. 01:22:46
So that would kind of be part of what we do is managing those platforms. 01:22:49
Social media is going to be easy with Facebook. 01:22:54
Instagram and tick tock. 01:22:57
Those are going to be Tick Tock and YouTube are kind of the new platforms that a lot of people are using. 01:22:59
We've had some of our videos from the. 01:23:04
90 day campaign have close to 8000 views on some of these videos. 01:23:07
So a very simple video of a elf walking through a. 01:23:11
The river or something like that? 01:23:14
Really is generating like an organic marketing for us so. 01:23:16
Really the idea there is just digital creation for Lincoln County. 01:23:21
Really, we just want to drive economic growth to all of our tourists. Having the marketing campaign, you have to have something 01:23:26
that's trackable for us. We do have a website and a digital app that we can. 01:23:31
Direct people to. 01:23:36
And be able to kind of track what we're actually doing in the efforts that we're seeing. So. 01:23:38
Again, if you guys haven't gone on to the visit lemco.com. 01:23:44
We have several other domains that we get back to it. 01:23:48
Lincoln County, New Mexico Calm. 01:23:51
As well. Those are all just a little too long. The domains that we didn't choose so. 01:23:54
Again, we can kind of manage and gather this campaign, however however we felt fit. 01:23:58
But showcasing, you know, just all the amenities that we have here across Lincoln County. 01:24:04
More specifically outside of of Ruidoso. 01:24:09
How do we tell the story of White Oaks like getting corona? 01:24:12
Lincoln, Capitan and those communities that sometimes aren't necessarily. 01:24:16
I guess I'll kind of just stand for any questions that you guys might have apologize on. 01:24:22
Not being able to show you guys this but this is the website. 01:24:27
You can go down to the bottom left. There you can actually plan your trip. 01:24:30
Which will be our. 01:24:34
Access to our. 01:24:37
App and that will have all of the different events that are going on. We've actually partnered with the village of. 01:24:39
Excuse me, the village of Ruidoso on their feed. 01:24:47
That supports onto ours, so anything that goes on in Rideau, so it's automatically shown on to ours. 01:24:50
And again, we can work with all these local events that get thrown. 01:24:55
For instance, Garrett with the Utd tours and stuff like that, we can always highlight and showcase stuff that's getting funded 01:24:59
through the lodgers tax. 01:25:02
County lodgers tax as well. 01:25:07
Yeah, if you go up there to the the state, that's where all of our. 01:25:12
All of our. 01:25:15
This is going to be where all of our RV parks are. 01:25:19
Loaded onto it. So I again, I think that this is just a great. 01:25:24
Platform that we developed already. 01:25:27
We just wanted to give everybody a actual. 01:25:30
Place on our website and cater to everyone, everyone of the businesses. 01:25:33
You can come in here. 01:25:38
Our eat and drink section here. 01:25:40
And just highlighting all of the different. 01:25:44
Restaurants that we have in the county. 01:25:48
So a lot of this has been done. We did the work in the 90 day campaign last year and we were able to really leverage those funds 01:25:50
and we would work again with New Mexico Tourism Department with some Co-op funding. 01:25:56
You've actually missed the bill for this. 01:26:02
For this year, so it have. 01:26:04
Last year was kind of a special deal that we were able to kind of pull some strings and get the those funds, but. 01:26:06
Again, would be willing to sniff out funds for advice and spends. 01:26:11
Again, this is just this contract for a professional services wouldn't really include. 01:26:15
We wanted to do a $5000 ad buy digital ad guy. We would need to source the funds. 01:26:21
You know, we would need to somehow manage that. 01:26:28
So. 01:26:31
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 01:26:32
This what we asked him to come. 01:26:35
Tell you today is. 01:26:37
Not necessarily. Still this. 01:26:39
But this is an example of what he can do. 01:26:41
And think of this. 01:26:44
Not for materialism aspect. And yes, this is very important. 01:26:45
Sort of bringing people to Lincoln County and showcasing what we can do. 01:26:49
From a fire initiative. 01:26:53
Our fire programs. 01:26:54
They were going to roll out with. 01:26:56
The stuff and everybody consolidating this information. 01:26:57
With our Facebook pages, and not from a political aspect, but from getting what we're doing. 01:27:01
Within county Commission meetings. 01:27:05
Within the meetings that we attend in our message out to the public. 01:27:07
This is just an example of what Matt can put together. 01:27:11
But it could be whatever we want it to be. 01:27:14
As much as our public outreach wants to be. 01:27:16
So this is what we were asking him to come present today is. 01:27:19
His capabilities. 01:27:23
Is there any outside funding for this? 01:27:26
Yes. So he's, he's leveraging grants with tourism. 01:27:29
I think there's additional grants. 01:27:33
Elsewhere that we could pursue. 01:27:35
But Matt's already very familiar with the grants that we could use to help. 01:27:37
Facilitate this. 01:27:41
The tourism side, yes. 01:27:42
Mr. Wilson, quick question. 01:27:45
My my question kind of goes into that is. 01:27:48
We can. I really appreciate you wanting to leverage this other and partner up with the Oasis. 01:27:51
You know that. 01:27:56
That leverages the money we spend. 01:27:57
Phenomenon. My question is, do you have an idea of what? 01:27:59
How many money would be looking at for those big boards or? 01:28:03
Sure, absolutely. I think last year we did a $10,000 digital media buy and again, this was only a 60 day campaign that we ran. 01:28:06
So. 01:28:15
The stent could be over $100,000 most. 01:28:17
Destination marketing organizations have. 01:28:20
You know, I think the village of Ruidoso is doing $1.4 million match fund with the with the tourism department, so. 01:28:23
Really, I mean, we're kind of small potatoes here, but really anything we could be very resourceful with. 01:28:31
And so I would like to see a 50 to 100,000. 01:28:37
Dollar budget in AD spot, advise and spend so. 01:28:40
So we do that through the tourism department, whether we come up with some other. 01:28:45
Type of funding sources through grants, Working with the lodgers tax. I know that they're pretty taxed themselves with all the 01:28:49
lodging establishments that we lost during the fire. 01:28:54
So it just be mindful of. 01:28:59
Just trying to scrounge together. 01:29:01
The money to do so? 01:29:03
Because or that's my question still is. 01:29:05
You know when you pay for your services, but I'd like to have an idea of what were. 01:29:09
Actually I understand it. I thought that we could do as much as our work, but. 01:29:12
But we don't already be spending roughly almost $11,000 on a business. 01:29:16
Which is yes Sir, every every year. 01:29:21
So you know, without all the. 01:29:24
Things that tie together to make it work. 01:29:26
You know just your management won't work with me. 01:29:30
Spencer was money, so. 01:29:33
I'd like to understand what. 01:29:34
So now might potentially. 01:29:37
So what's you have in front of you today? 01:29:41
Proposal for Matt to create and manage. 01:29:43
What we're asking to with the input from. 01:29:47
The county with whatever direction, or the fire campaign you know we've been talking a lot about. 01:29:50
Are concerned about water. 01:29:56
And as we started. 01:29:58
Putting those issues out and start wanting to get information to the public. 01:29:59
So, Matt? 01:30:05
Very much anxious to jump on board and run with this. 01:30:06
But your message is going to be the one that. 01:30:09
You decide and direct. 01:30:12
So and I think also what he's talking once $100,000 marketing campaign that's in addition to. 01:30:14
What his services are and with what the county will provide him through. 01:30:19
That's just managing the aspects, helping us obtain information. 01:30:22
And we could probably start with some of those campaigns that he's discussing. 01:30:27
I think what he's wanting to do and kind of discussing is in addition to marketing campaign, which we might want to do with as we 01:30:31
get fired programs rolled out. 01:30:35
I just think it's important that we delineate between the two so we have. 01:30:39
One contract that would be focused on marketing of in tourism based. 01:30:46
Which could be funded out of lodgers tax. 01:30:52
But then on the other hand, I think what we're wanting to leverage. 01:30:54
Using a marketing agency would be. 01:30:58
County. 01:31:01
Operations. 01:31:02
And the organization information pushed out. I know the sheriff has a huge following and does a great job for us, but. 01:31:03
Oftentimes this falls on his shoulders. 01:31:11
When it should be coming from? 01:31:13
The governing body. 01:31:15
I mean even. 01:31:17
Project updates, you know they could go out more frequent with. 01:31:19
Timelines and the public would be able to understand what the. 01:31:24
Return of investment is on their tax dollars and I think that's what. 01:31:28
I, as a Commissioner, would like to see the marketing agency come in and push for us. 01:31:32
Commissioner Furnace bought. That's exactly what it is. Project updates. 01:31:37
Road closures, emergency updates that we can push immigration out to the public. 01:31:41
So. 01:31:45
So I'm looking at. 01:31:47
Looking at the budget here. 01:31:50
So we are in. 01:31:52
Until August, I think you said $900 a month for the widget app. 01:31:54
899 Yes, Sir, Yeah. 01:31:58
OK. 01:31:59
And then and then you're asking. 01:32:02
To do something. 01:32:05
It's not quite clear what it is. 01:32:07
You're asking for. 01:32:10
Monthly professional services at about 5000. Yes Sir. 01:32:12
For the annual total close to 60. 01:32:16
Yes, Sir. 01:32:18
So, so that's 60 plus. 01:32:21
12,000. 01:32:24
Or 11,000? 01:32:25
Yes, and typically those contracts would need to be held directly with the with that other contract that you have with the visit 01:32:27
widget team. 01:32:31
So it would be it's technically outside of the contract. Understood. I'm wondering if we're. 01:32:36
If we're duplicating our efforts here unnecessarily. 01:32:43
The fact that we need both. 01:32:47
I don't. 01:32:49
I don't know if we need both the the visit widget is in. 01:32:50
In addition to, I think it's a cell phone. 01:32:53
It's kind of what that is. If that's something we decide not to go, what I'd recover from. 01:32:56
Matt is to provide us. 01:33:00
A proposal for what he can do for us. 01:33:03
For the professional services limit, we can adjust that level of. 01:33:06
Effort to what we think is appropriate. 01:33:09
In terms of the $5000 a month, you can adjust that. 01:33:12
So the content so so obviously. 01:33:16
We're somewhat impressed by the content on the. 01:33:20
Visitor side. The tourism side. 01:33:23
Could be changed, could be expanded. 01:33:27
But but if you look. 01:33:29
The broader interest of the county. 01:33:30
We know that. 01:33:34
We know that Ruidoso is is really hitting it hard, he said, $1.4 million in terms of an ad campaign. 01:33:35
Tourism, uh. 01:33:42
I'm not so. 01:33:43
Sure that we. 01:33:44
Need to do a whole lot more in that particular side. 01:33:47
There are some things you know we're missing. 01:33:51
What goes on at the fairgrounds, I think that's huge. 01:33:54
Even what was going to happen, what happened last week and what's going to happen next week? 01:33:58
And obviously the Stampede and. 01:34:03
Smokey Bear days and all that stuff that. 01:34:06
That needs to be in there. 01:34:08
But I share Commissioner Cerna's. 01:34:10
Concerns and with respect to this other more. 01:34:13
Less, less tourism information. 01:34:16
You know, these efforts that we're going to talk about, the firewise programs, the hardening programs, the water issues. 01:34:20
Things like EMS, things like Volunteer Fire departments. 01:34:27
Obviously. 01:34:32
The Sheriff's Office is. It's very important to be there. There's a lot of. 01:34:33
Stuff that's not. 01:34:36
In this realm. 01:34:38
We're going to get that content. Are we going to be responsible for developing that content, handing it over to you and say run 01:34:39
with it or develop it? Is that, is that the deal? 01:34:43
The way I'd like to see it work is that we provide the content like an elevator pitch. 01:34:47
And then he prepares the image or the graphics needed to go along with it and then. 01:34:52
Shows it. 01:34:57
Back to either the manager or. 01:34:58
The Commission and then we go ahead and get the information posted. 01:35:00
But I think that it's important. I mean, even just like what we did today with recognizing the success of our employees. 01:35:04
You know, promoting safety. 01:35:11
Showing how we have cost savings, the amount of grants that we're bringing in. I don't think that the public realizes all of these 01:35:13
wins that we've been championing for years. Yeah. 01:35:17
That the staff's hard work needs to be. 01:35:22
I agree with that, Swarani. 01:35:26
Any remediation of the. 01:35:28
That's been going on and everything else, you know. 01:35:31
A lot of people don't realize. 01:35:33
How much? 01:35:35
Is going on in Italian. 01:35:36
And I think it'd be a good platform to start with. 01:35:38
I'm always kind of been based on the the tourism side of things and just something for y'all's consideration as you move forward 01:35:40
with just the image of Lincoln County is, hey, come visit us. 01:35:45
On one narrative. 01:35:50
Red flag warning your house. 01:35:51
Might burn down or wash away today. 01:35:54
So I do see two conflicting narratives of. 01:35:56
Well, I think we need that vote. So I think we need both ends of the spectrum. That way they know they. 01:35:59
We are doing something to prevent this from happening. 01:36:05
There's a lot more community feel good happening now than one year ago. 01:36:08
Is the good move to back? 01:36:13
Very much from what the Commission's. 01:36:15
Saying. 01:36:17
We will control the message. 01:36:19
And I think it's a partnership with Matt being able to create it and help us post it with the information. 01:36:21
Of what we are giving him. 01:36:27
Matt, do you have any? 01:36:28
Any idea how how your architecture of the website has changed that? 01:36:29
Tool messaging. I mean we really have full flexibility and run with this. With the website we can have them edit and change any 01:36:34
type of. 01:36:39
You know, format that we built, you know, feel fit if we want to have a our own page for maybe a community update. 01:36:44
We can kind of work on that and get that added on. 01:36:52
I know that you guys do have. 01:36:55
Chairman, the idea here is. 01:36:57
This is very much a come visit Lincoln County. 01:36:59
We're we're kind of wanting. 01:37:02
Him to look at our website and help us with ours. 01:37:05
So this is very much its own deal as an example of his capabilities. 01:37:08
Ours is to revise ours as well as. 01:37:14
Start pushing social media. 01:37:17
So you're saying you're going to maintain our website that we have? 01:37:19
Contract negotiations, yeah, we're on WordPress, we're working on that, but the idea is for our website. But Matt, just linking to 01:37:24
what you're saying, you know, having to. 01:37:30
Talk about the day-to-day operations with the. 01:37:37
The county, you know, it's not a sexy thing. 01:37:41
To say as far as tourism. 01:37:45
But if we look at, you know. 01:37:48
Progress Mondays and we show. 01:37:51
You know, umm. 01:37:53
A really dense forest, and then we show where it's been thinned or. 01:37:54
Some roads and drainage has been improved or if we have like Finance Friday. 01:37:58
Hit on some winds that our finance team has put together. I think that we could go in that direction. 01:38:02
I I would recommend. 01:38:11
That we do two things One, let's look at. 01:38:13
At this current website that you have. 01:38:16
Which is tourism Happy, Glad. 01:38:19
And all that stuff. 01:38:21
And then and then we need to understand. 01:38:23
How this other one would look like, and I think we've got some good ideas here. 01:38:26
But I think it's very important to get that other message, and that's really what I'm focused on right now. 01:38:31
What does? 01:38:38
Where their tax dollars are growing and where they're not going and what they. 01:38:40
The focus and the efforts of the Commission. 01:38:43
And the whole county is. 01:38:46
It is focused on. 01:38:47
So I don't know that. 01:38:49
Do do we need to have? 01:38:52
Another presentation. 01:38:54
Tops today I'd like what I request from the Commission. 01:38:55
Is. 01:39:01
Maybe a preliminary trial of what we're going to do, allowing me to work with Matt. 01:39:04
See if we can't make some things better and with the direction of the Commission. 01:39:08
And then come back and show you what we've come up with. 01:39:14
Kind of like what you're saying, maybe an additional presentation, yeah. 01:39:16
Would allow me to work with you come up with something as a. 01:39:19
I guess the proposal that allows to kind of start pushing out some information with social media and some of those things and. 01:39:24
And then we'll come back and definitely get some. 01:39:31
Comments, questions, revisions and direction. I think that's what I said. 01:39:34
Any other comments? Is there any? 01:39:38
I don't think right now this is going to be under a professional services. One mystery will very much keep it. 01:39:44
On a preliminary basis and we'll discuss that with you. 01:39:52
But I don't think there's an action things to happen now. 01:39:55
Is everyone OK with those pursuits? 01:39:58
So you want to you want to have independent negotiating authority and obligating. 01:40:01
For this effort also begun. 01:40:06
I would just like for y'all to focus though on social media and digital content. 01:40:09
Well. 01:40:15
Helping to get the brand. 01:40:16
I think we can really tell, tell a good message, especially with all the the good happenings that were in here. Just even sitting 01:40:19
in here, we're we're missing the ball on some of this stuff. 01:40:25
You know, patrons don't know what's going on unless they're sitting in this room. So yeah, we can definitely highlight what you 01:40:33
guys are doing it so. 01:40:36
Yeah, and it's also part of economic development to ensure that the. 01:40:39
The county citizens and those outside. 01:40:43
Now that this is a good safe. 01:40:45
Place to come in place? Yeah, absolutely so. 01:40:48
Yeah, I don't see a motion out of this, but we'll see in July with what you did. 01:40:53
OK, does that. Does that. 01:40:59
Are we good with that? 01:41:01
We'll bring it back. We'll talk. Very good. Thank you. 01:41:03
Update. 01:41:12
So the next thing on the agenda? 01:41:15
Is he? 01:41:19
Presentation. Umm. 01:41:21
And again. 01:41:26
Manager Burns, you got it. 01:41:28
All right. 01:41:30
So. 01:41:38
Chairman. Commissioners. 01:41:39
With this item. 01:41:41
It has been. 01:41:45
Very much communicated at one of our. 01:41:48
Probably our top priority. 01:41:51
Is being ready for the next fire. 01:41:53
Because it's tomorrow. 01:41:56
So with that, what we put together to discuss today. 01:41:59
Is a readiness initiative. 01:42:04
And this is taking all of our projects that we've discussed, all of our initiatives that we've discussed. 01:42:06
And kind of put them in an action plan. 01:42:11
It gives you a mission and a vision statement and I'll read the mission statement is to safeguard the people property. 01:42:16
Now, the resources of Lincoln County, New Mexico by implementing a comprehensive. 01:42:22
Cooperation, fire prevention strategies. 01:42:26
That enhanced resilience, promote public safety and strengthen the community preparedness. 01:42:29
Wildland fires. 01:42:33
This needs to be a group effort. 01:42:36
There's a lot. 01:42:39
Of. 01:42:40
Entities. 01:42:41
And efforts. 01:42:43
From multiple. 01:42:44
Sources. Uh. 01:42:45
That we need to bring together and essentially be the spearhead. 01:42:46
On food, because if we have. 01:42:50
You know, it's, it's, it's what grandma said. There's too many bucks in the kitchen. 01:42:53
There needs to be that One Direction to where we actually get dinner on the table. 01:42:57
We need to prioritize our efforts. We need to lead the charge and actually support the efforts. 01:43:02
To move them forwards, there's actually. 01:43:07
We get the boots on the ground, we get to actionable. 01:43:11
Sources we get to actionable. 01:43:15
Defense. So with that, we wind out a few companies. 01:43:17
Components of the prioritization is our Wildland Urban Interface program. 01:43:21
That's a firefighter. That's our. 01:43:25
That's our top priority. 01:43:26
We need to get this going. There's funding available. 01:43:28
We need to understand procurement, we need to get all the sources and the people in the room to talk about this. 01:43:30
Our Firewise community program. This is something that very much Aaron's already working on. 01:43:38
We need to elaborate on this. We need to make it more structured. 01:43:42
We need to put it out on a website so that's available to people when they want to look at it. 01:43:45
And not just Aaron. Taking a PowerPoint to people that ask for it needs to be available. 01:43:49
All the time. 01:43:54
To everyone and Aaron's doing a great job, but we need to elaborate and expand on that. 01:43:55
Our regional fire trainings. 01:44:00
This is something we've talked about. 01:44:03
We're going to bring to you here soon with our projects. We're going to talk about about our projects list. 01:44:04
Again, it's one of the projects and initiatives that's going to improve and make us more ready for the next part. 01:44:09
Our strategic location water storage is something Ross is currently working on. We've received grant money. 01:44:16
This is also another big piece of the deal. 01:44:21
That as we implement this, folks need to know where these things are, what we're doing, and why. 01:44:25
And then ultimately, we're drinking in our Volunteer Fire departments. 01:44:30
This being our last key component. 01:44:34
But also probably one of our most important. 01:44:36
Our local guys out in the field, boots on the ground, we need to make sure that they've got the resources and tools to do what 01:44:38
they need to do out and actually fight these fires when they do. 01:44:42
And be ready when they happen. 01:44:46
And they've done a great job. I'll really come in there and our Volunteer Fire departments. 01:44:48
They are. When we have a fire, when it's reported, they're on it and they're on it now. 01:44:53
You know, and I'll tell you, for many county, we used to send too many resources to wildland fires because they didn't go very far 01:44:59
very fast. 01:45:02
Here. 01:45:05
We put all the resources we can. We get it knocked out now. 01:45:06
Very much so, because it could be a big deal. 01:45:09
Sooner than we need it. 01:45:11
And they've done a very admirable job of getting to them make sure those fires don't become they deal. 01:45:13
So those are our. 01:45:19
Those are our key components and we can add this understand this is a working initiative. 01:45:21
We have our public assistance outreach, which is what we just talked about. It ties into mass field. 01:45:26
It hasn't been forced if we bring all these resources together and we put out into the public. 01:45:31
What we're doing, why? 01:45:35
And we provide those resources with Aaron to go out and do home inspections, to provide the services that Laura has and we make 01:45:37
those available to the public. 01:45:41
Our coordination and couple. 01:45:47
Cooperation. 01:45:49
This is all of our entities we got to bring together. 01:45:50
Our federal agencies, our state agencies, our local agencies. 01:45:52
At the end of the day, we need everybody sitting at the table talking about what we're all doing. 01:45:56
And leading the charge together. Not here, there, Yonder. 01:46:00
So. 01:46:03
Bringing everybody to the table with the county, coordinating and leading that effort with all the folks because at the end of the 01:46:04
day, we're Lincoln County. We need to be going to sleep in the charge. 01:46:08
And with that we put an implement type implementation timeline. 01:46:16
I feel this is fairly aggressive. 01:46:20
But it can be more and this and I want you to understand. 01:46:23
The fire is tomorrow. 01:46:26
We're working on this now. 01:46:28
And this is very much a. 01:46:30
Overtime implementation because we need to. 01:46:33
Strengthening our fire readiness as a whole. And it's not just a tomorrow initiative, it is a. 01:46:36
How do we strengthen ourselves? 01:46:42
As a whole. 01:46:44
All of these initiatives as we implement them are going to improve our SO ratings. They're going to improve our insurance rates. 01:46:46
So this isn't overtime. 01:46:51
Initiative. 01:46:53
But it is very now or. 01:46:54
A right now problem. 01:46:55
As we've talked with Chairman and all the Commission. 01:46:59
I mean, we're going to finalize an initiative. We're going to roll this thing out to the public. At the same time, we're going to 01:47:02
secure grant funding. 01:47:05
And we're going to initiate projects and we hope to have that done within the next 30 days. 01:47:08
Really, honestly, and I say this and. 01:47:13
Yeah, we really have glimpsed on the ground here in the next 30 days and we're going to push that. I don't know if it's possible, 01:47:16
but that's what we're going to try to do. 01:47:19
So it's. 01:47:24
It's going to be a push. 01:47:26
And it's going to be an aggressive push and I think we have several folks that are ready. 01:47:27
To see this happen. 01:47:31
We need to bring them into the fold so that we're all supporting and pushing each other together. 01:47:33
And that's what this is. 01:47:37
It is an action plan that we're putting in front of you today. 01:47:39
To say, here's what we're going to do. 01:47:42
And get ready, here we come. 01:47:44
And bring everybody to the table and just kind of say. 01:47:46
Here we are so. 01:47:50
I know I ran through that kind of quick, but I will stand for questions and comments. 01:47:52
So this is part of the water storage document for the fire stations. 01:48:00
I was just thinking that maybe you need some water storage. 01:48:04
Fairgrounds also for the. 01:48:08
Evacuation of. 01:48:11
Stuff that are. 01:48:13
That are. 01:48:14
The last part they had an evacuation and. 01:48:17
You're taking animals for the fairgrounds. I don't think we have sufficient water. 01:48:19
I don't either and I think that would be very strategic location. I know we're talking with Jeff and Ross about including that as 01:48:23
one of our locations. 01:48:26
And about where the best place would be that the Fairgrounds Rd. department, but yes, right in that vicinity somewhere. 01:48:29
I'd like to see that. 01:48:35
Because there's another part of this, what we're including with our strategic location is how we're going to recharge these 01:48:36
things. 01:48:39
And I know we got rainwater collection, but we also rainwater collection and we may have to grow well. 01:48:42
I might have to drill well. Yes, Sir. So let's see if we have any water rights or. 01:48:47
Something to that. 01:48:51
Of effects so we can actually utilize the water. 01:48:53
Fire safety and also maybe in the animals that are coming in and also for the road department to use on the highway. 01:48:57
On the road, which I think we can very much accommodate that with an ad. 01:49:05
The fairgrounds, so especially with it being for. 01:49:08
Animals while they're there. 01:49:11
Sure. 01:49:14
I have a couple comments. 01:49:19
So if I go to. 01:49:21
Section 5. Coordination, cooperation. It's a minor, it seems like a milk, but it really. 01:49:24
So when you get down to the. 01:49:30
Second last bullet. 01:49:32
Talk about local entities, Lincoln County fire departments. 01:49:34
Travel reservation. I want to be very specific. These are neighbors and friends. Nescalero Tribal government. 01:49:38
Needs to be there local entities I don't care about that's. 01:49:45
The other comment I had was and and I think. 01:49:50
Your comments. 01:49:54
Mr. Manager, reflect my feelings as well. 01:49:56
That that I think. 01:50:00
We need to be very ******** on dates. 01:50:02
And goal setting. 01:50:06
And then be able to come back. 01:50:09
And see where we fall short or where we. 01:50:11
Are advanced beyond that. 01:50:14
And that's not defined lane, but it's we need to have measures of effectiveness. 01:50:17
They need to understand and see progress. 01:50:23
You go back. 01:50:25
To some of the documents that. 01:50:27
Are currently extant in this county. 01:50:29
Our planning documents, et cetera, that are 20 years old. 01:50:32
The things that we're talking about. 01:50:37
Mostly have been talked about for 20 years. 01:50:39
Mostly. 01:50:41
I I don't want to leave this. 01:50:45
This Commission still talking about? 01:50:46
None of us needs to happen. 01:50:50
So so I I applaud your. 01:50:53
Enthusiasm and your reference to. 01:50:56
In 30 days we'll have boots on the ground. 01:50:59
I'm gonna hold you to that. 01:51:02
Believe it when you see it. No, I'm just going to encourage you. And I would also add. 01:51:04
That you. 01:51:10
Whatever influence, little or large, that we may have on this Commission. 01:51:12
To get help. 01:51:16
This is this is a group. 01:51:17
The group effort and it's not just on your shoulders or. 01:51:19
Aaron or Brian? 01:51:22
Ross's as an. 01:51:24
As an example. 01:51:25
But it's it's all of us, and in order to make us work. 01:51:27
We have to be there and. 01:51:30
Including Jeff. 01:51:32
Yes, thank you. 01:51:34
But it's, it's all of us and, and really there's, there's got to be some, some good conversations. 01:51:37
With the sheriff as well on this because. 01:51:43
They're part of that. 01:51:45
In a big, big way. 01:51:46
Very much and so we want to make sure that that they feel. 01:51:48
But their input is is involved in it and that their. 01:51:52
Can add whatever they need to in terms of making this a better plan. 01:51:55
So I just wanted to add. 01:52:00
The phrase I heard you say was the. 01:52:03
Fire training facility, I think the direction was a public safety. 01:52:05
Training facility. 01:52:10
This one original. 01:52:14
Thank you. 01:52:15
Sierra Barca Regional. 01:52:16
First responders for public safety training facility. 01:52:18
So I've got one more time public safety plan. 01:52:22
I have a whole scope of work that we put together in the. I'll e-mail it to you. 01:52:24
And that helps us out. 01:52:33
Bringing the whole community in it allows it makes people feel like. 01:52:34
It's not just Lincoln County that's important. 01:52:39
And and it also from. 01:52:43
Funding and moving forward. 01:52:44
That designation? 01:52:46
Help us seem simple. 01:52:48
Is very important, so Sierra Bronco. 01:52:50
Public safety training. 01:52:53
I want to make sure we have one bang up. 01:52:55
So what we'll do on this is, is very much provide you your metric. I'll bring you a project schedule, provide you regular updates 01:53:01
on how we're moving on this. 01:53:05
Perfect with funding and schedules and completion and on all these initiatives. 01:53:10
And you don't have to wait 30 days. 01:53:14
You can send us all an e-mail. 01:53:17
And we'll just be careful after the file. 01:53:20
Yes, Sir, that be all right. 01:53:23
Yes, Sir. OK. 01:53:24
Comments and questions Commission. 01:53:26
Thank you very much. It's exciting. 01:53:29
Acting nonverbal. 01:53:34
OK, so action items. 01:53:38
Three. One more thing. One more. 01:53:42
Oh, that's right, Lincoln. Lincoln County projects and grants. 01:53:47
No, no, we just did wildfire, right? 01:53:57
Projects and grants. 01:54:00
So I'm going to preface it this a little bit. 01:54:03
Yes, very much. This is Ross Coleman. He's our projects and grants. 01:54:08
I'm not real sure what you are. We're going to call you. We have a. 01:54:13
Ross is. 01:54:18
One of our contract employees currently. 01:54:20
To help us with projects and grants and he's. 01:54:23
We're kind of throwing to the wolves, so he's actually doing a real good job fighting them off so. 01:54:27
I'd like to. 01:54:33
Talked about this a little bit. It's kind of a two-part presentation. 01:54:35
For the three of us up here to discuss. 01:54:39
And I handed out. 01:54:42
Before the meeting. 01:54:44
Project list. 01:54:47
And what this is going to be is a living document that we're going to bring you guys. 01:54:49
On a fiscal year basis. 01:54:53
With all of our current projects that we are. 01:54:55
Either have you progress? 01:54:59
Or our planning or whatever, just so that you see kind of like what? 01:55:01
Chairman said a minute ago. 01:55:06
Progress. This is going to be our communication tool. 01:55:09
As we closeout the fiscal year, the encumbered activity balance, we will fill those in as we move into the next fiscal year. 01:55:12
How much we have for a budget, how much we spent, what our balances on it. 01:55:18
Our current completion status on it. 01:55:23
This is also going to help us as we. 01:55:25
Track and manage our funding sources with grants. We're going to have another page on this. 01:55:28
That we bring this back to you for our specific grants that we're managing. 01:55:32
What this shows you very much. 01:55:37
The projects that we have ongoing. 01:55:41
Throughout the county. 01:55:43
And we broke these up into our Rd. projects, OES projects. 01:55:44
Our facilities projects. 01:55:48
So. 01:55:53
As well as this. 01:55:56
That will correlate with this is we have our. 01:55:59
Current ICFP that we'll talk about here in a minute. 01:56:01
So that you can provide us your comments on prioritization on this. 01:56:04
I'd like to skim through this real quick and these two guys will stand for questions. 01:56:11
We have several of our Rd. projects coming to completion here by June 30th with the lower Eagle Creek. 01:56:16
Our Palo Verde is complete. Those are being finished up. 01:56:22
Armagato Crete, the plans are 100%. We're going to have that one chief for procurement here at the next Commission meeting. 01:56:26
Arson does the crossing. 01:56:34
We have folks on the. 01:56:36
Field today working on. 01:56:38
Very much they're there. 01:56:41
Our our Fort Lone Tree, our Chipsville Microfield, those have been complete and he's actually chipping today on that. 01:56:44
You can see our you can see that we have our FEMA. 01:56:52
Projects our cat sees. 01:56:57
Because those are coming the first. We're going to start those here soon. 01:56:59
As our match funding has been. 01:57:02
Promised and. 01:57:05
FEMA obligations we have enhanced. So those are actually going to be starting here. 01:57:09
Very soon as we bring you agreements. 01:57:13
To buy one piece bridge, we have a contract that's going to go up there and look at reinforcing that deal and NRCS is moving out 01:57:18
there to realign that river. 01:57:21
So that one's happening. 01:57:25
If not this week or the next week? 01:57:27
What's the? What's the? 01:57:30
The weight limit. 01:57:31
Trying to approach. 01:57:33
We're going to get the engineers back out there, but we will get that thing. 01:57:35
To where you can get all of your trucks over fire trucks over it with a. 01:57:38
Fairly. 01:57:42
Competent level. 01:57:44
Confidence. 01:57:45
Like Microsoft? 01:57:50
But yes, they it's. 01:57:53
We've gone out and looked at the bridge, Engineers looked at the bridge. 01:57:55
We're going to reinforce this deal to make sure that it's safe. 01:57:58
Because at the end of the day, that's what we're concerned about. It will be safe to use. 01:58:01
So at the $0.36. 01:58:04
It'll be safe to use. 01:58:08
We'll get this here to evalu. 01:58:10
We'll put a number on it. 01:58:13
So. 01:58:15
We have several projects we're planning with our. 01:58:18
Cedar Creek Core, Dutton Tully Bridge Field. 01:58:21
Montana. 01:58:24
We're going to have these ready to go as kind of our shovel ready projects. 01:58:25
Pursue funding. 01:58:29
Our OES projects, y'all want to ask Jeff any questions on road projects before I move on? 01:58:32
I don't know, I'm kind of running through there and I'm not going to steal the Thunder, so. 01:58:38
A good a good. 01:58:43
The comment that Commissioner Turner brought up the other day was. 01:58:45
But the loss of water, water being tighter. 01:58:49
We probably 1 might imagine being more aggressive. 01:58:52
And chip sealing more or? 01:58:57
Asphalt Ignore. 01:58:59
So that we're using water over the. 01:59:01
Well, I'm just putting that out there because I think that's some somewhere where we need to go 80%. 01:59:03
Last I checked, I don't think it's changed. 01:59:10
80% of the asphalt. Remember Jeff? 01:59:13
But the rest of the county needs help. 01:59:19
And we need support. 01:59:21
And that that ratio is just not right. 01:59:23
Because we're all paying taxes. 01:59:27
Yes, Sir. Thank you. 01:59:29
I will tell you one thing, Jeff's offer that we're working on is our. 01:59:31
We're going to offer a five year Rd. improvement plan. 01:59:35
And kind of our maintenance plan. So we're working on that together and we'll bring that. 01:59:38
Is Columbia funding? Possibly. 01:59:41
I mean, that's available for that kind of stuff too. 01:59:43
We're using it down there and. 01:59:47
Rancho Villa does Chairman Fisher Commissioner Jeff Honeycutt, Lincoln County Road representative. It would be a possibility to 01:59:48
use that for Rd. improvements as well because that's what we are doing in Caliber Slopes with the drainage. 01:59:54
Yes, Sir. 02:00:00
Yeah, OK. 02:00:00
So we'll move into our OES project and I'm just kind of running through these. 02:00:04
You see top of the priority list our waterline urban interface. 02:00:07
Water storage. 02:00:12
Our guy is Tower. You actually have that on your agenda today to approve that RFP is it's going to be advertised tomorrow. 02:00:13
We do still have projects on here that. 02:00:21
Aren't necessarily within budget, but that we are still persuading with your communications and. 02:00:23
Oh yes, command vehicle. 02:00:28
Our generators for the VFD's courthouse and Senior Center, we have all those. 02:00:30
And we'll be applying for female mitigation money on that. 02:00:34
Facilities project. We'll talk about these a little more. 02:00:38
Commission Chamber, No, I'm sorry for being late, but. 02:00:41
So sunny Starlight Deals is. 02:00:46
FEMA mitigation might be used for that, for communication. 02:00:49
Don't know. 02:00:53
It's something we could sure look into. I mean, I don't know why. 02:00:55
We're going to put generators structure. 02:00:58
Say it might be covered under Infrastructure Communications. 02:01:01
Yeah, I mean, so communicate, we lost communications. 02:01:04
During the Last Catastrophe series. 02:01:09
One could imagine that mitigating further. 02:01:12
Damage. 02:01:15
Not a catastrophe. 02:01:16
Communication is import. 02:01:17
Worst they can do is tell us no, I'll find out. 02:01:20
So. 02:01:25
Any other questions on OES projects? 02:01:28
That we're kind of moving forward and those very much tied back to our. 02:01:30
Fire readiness plan and some of those that were done. 02:01:34
Our facilities projects. 02:01:38
Commission chamber update. Sub office update. 02:01:39
Playground Fletcher Hall. 02:01:42
Health office HVAC, our purchase of our Clerks building and then we have a detention plumbing project that's funded through 02:01:44
capital outlays. 02:01:47
So and then we move into our projects, our courthouse renovation that we're going to pursue CDBG funding on our ambulance station. 02:01:51
Our fairgrounds covered arena that we have EDA grant for a sheriff evidence room. 02:01:59
He's not here no more. 02:02:03
We went over and looked at that with some architects this week and we're going to have a plan and a. 02:02:06
Testament on that. 02:02:10
So. So if I could go back to the ambulance station? 02:02:12
Are we not from this now? 02:02:16
We are, yes. 02:02:18
So we have $750,000 in capital outlay on that. 02:02:19
We went over there and. 02:02:22
Actually took an engineer on Friday, yes, because we need to do a cut field planner drainage plan to find out where the utilities 02:02:24
are and we're also going to have to provide a foundation plan for the metal building that we're planning on putting there so. 02:02:30
We were moving on that. 02:02:36
We also speaking to the counter outlay. 02:02:39
Grants that we have for the ambulance station, the strategic water. 02:02:42
And some emergency vehicles, we filled out the questionnaires on that and we should have. 02:02:45
Hopefully agreements by your next agenda. 02:02:50
That we can. 02:02:52
Budget those and put those in and start moving forward with that one. That's excellent and it would be wonderful. I know this is a 02:02:53
working document. 02:02:57
This is the best product we've seen since I've been on the Commission. 02:03:02
I dare say it's probably the best we've seen in. 02:03:06
Longer than that. 02:03:09
But but maybe you can you can improve. 02:03:11
The sort of the status a little bit in terms of funding. 02:03:14
And we move in the next fiscal year and I apologize we didn't weren't able to get all the figures on here. We it'll become clear 02:03:18
that as we bring this back. 02:03:22
Our budgets, what we've expended and what our current balance is and that will show that status of what's complete and what's not. 02:03:28
Commissioner Sarah again for. 02:03:34
Yes, ma'am, the ambulance they. 02:03:35
Having spoken to the town of carries out of those out to see if they're willing to run utilities and water. 02:03:39
The we did go over there and meet with the town of Cares also. 02:03:45
They have. 02:03:48
Informed us. 02:03:50
There are utilities. 02:03:51
To the site right adjacent to it. 02:03:53
And they are wanting us to own that piece of property and wanting to donate it to us. 02:03:56
Yes, we have talked to carry those similar. 02:04:01
Coordinating with them is. 02:04:03
For this project. 02:04:05
I don't see the nest on here with their concerns for the building. 02:04:07
It will be on there next time. 02:04:14
Any other questions on our project list? 02:04:26
Have you found funding for the fairgrounds at Festival? 02:04:29
No, that is a proposed. It's not even really a proposed. 02:04:33
So we're going to need to sit down and probably. 02:04:39
One of our next workshops that we have and discuss. 02:04:41
Our current Eva grant. 02:04:44
With the funding that we have in the balance on it. 02:04:46
It's my understanding we have a $3.2 million grant with some match money that we're going to discuss in our next meeting. 02:04:49
Park covered arena project is going to be. 02:04:57
The materials at about $1 million right now for this. 02:05:02
Covered Arena itself that does not include installation. 02:05:06
So there is. 02:05:10
Looking like today. 02:05:11
That there will be a balance moving forward. 02:05:13
That. 02:05:15
Maybe depending on the scope. 02:05:16
Redirect some of that money and maybe. 02:05:19
Have some extra things in there that we would like to have. 02:05:22
Patricia Corvis for Media say that we're allowed to amend the skill. 02:05:25
Well, that is depending on what the scope looks like today. 02:05:30
I have not talked to Trisha about. 02:05:34
Amending the scope but we need to get a little bit further and secure a contractor and make sure our numbers are correct. These 02:05:35
are kind of projections right now. 02:05:40
That it looks like we're going to have. 02:05:44
A little bit of money leftover. It's very much the idea to. 02:05:46
Whatever we do in addition to the covered arena fitted within the existing scope. 02:05:50
So we're going to evaluate that and see what we can do. 02:05:54
Even if it's not this, this is the idea. 02:05:58
Even if we choose not to use media funding, we need to have some. 02:06:01
We need to put some. 02:06:07
Attention to some of the Fletcher Hall concerns. 02:06:09
And that needs to be a discussion that would have. 02:06:17
As we get to that for the kitchen. 02:06:19
You don't have much of anything. 02:06:24
And the way we originally. 02:06:26
Rotosco, but anything that's on the campus itself. 02:06:28
From the fairgrounds. 02:06:31
Could potentially be eligible for some of this money, we just need to make sure it's spelled out clearly and make sure EDA is good 02:06:33
with them. 02:06:36
The electrical PA system upgrades, those are. 02:06:40
That was in the scope and that's something that we're looking at adding to that as well. 02:06:43
And then we have junior bill fundings for the PA system. 02:06:48
Just see if they not really sent money. 02:06:51
In terms of the quality of life, one. 02:06:53
That's that was the one that was held up because of the anti donation issue. 02:06:56
Remember the 250? 02:06:59
That was put on the Renegades invoice. 02:07:03
That was originally capital outlay money I believe. 02:07:10
Yeah, and I'm not even too sure if they receive the yes. 02:07:12
We're still working through some of these. 02:07:20
We're still working through some of these concerns. We will bring this to our workshop and discuss more. 02:07:25
And we're also very much going to include in addition to this. It looks similar to this. 02:07:30
All of the grants that we currently have on the books. 02:07:34
What their current status and closed down expenditures. 02:07:37
So. 02:07:40
This is just kind of. 02:07:41
What to expect in a initial? 02:07:42
Here it is, and then you'll see it as we develop and bring it back. 02:07:46
When the current status is. 02:07:49
Sherry Huddleston, Lincoln County Treasurer. 02:07:53
Chairman Fisher, Commissioner, I was just wondering like on grants or disaster female money. 02:07:56
If the kitchen could be included because if we could upgrade that. 02:08:02
To where we can serve people when, you know, they were evacuated to that or if they held firefighters or something like that. 02:08:06
To benefit, you know, if we could put maybe. 02:08:13
Get some money for that. 02:08:16
To build that facility to be able to house. 02:08:18
You know. 02:08:21
Firefighters or evacuees, something like that. 02:08:21
Ski swimmers and the light. 02:08:26
Yep, County Manager will. 02:08:29
So that's a good idea. Thank you. So if we move out of the projects list, I want to hand this over to Ross because he very much 02:08:31
worked on this is our ICP. 02:08:35
I I would like to preface this that this is a. 02:08:42
We need your feedback for prioritization. 02:08:46
This will be what we submit to the state. 02:08:48
Also understand that this is not set in stone. 02:08:52
But this is something that we're required to turn into the state, and it helps us if we go and request grant funding. 02:08:56
So with that, I'll turn this over to us. So all your project titles are going to be on your left hand side. 02:09:01
With category categorizations. 02:09:06
By year. 02:09:09
So the the ones on your your left, you'll see the ranking. 02:09:11
The ranking is just arbitrary that we came up with. We expect that would. 02:09:15
Want to change those rankings? 02:09:19
And so when a number starts over on the left back with A1. 02:09:21
Halfway down the page, that's that's the next year, so. 02:09:26
Up on the top you'll see the funding date, so you have fiscal years 27282930 and 31. 02:09:29
I don't believe we put any projects into 31. 02:09:36
But this is completely. 02:09:40
You're calling how you want this to look. 02:09:42
We can easily make those changes. 02:09:45
Commissioner Serna came and. 02:09:48
Visited me with me yesterday and. 02:09:50
Corrected my inadequacies and so we got some of this stuff fixed up. 02:09:53
For you. 02:09:56
So I can easily now go back in there and I can change those rankings and those prioritizations to however you see fit. 02:09:57
Well, I have a couple. 02:10:11
Off the cuff comments. 02:10:12
You don't mind the wildland urban interface? There is that number. 02:10:15
It might be a answer. 02:10:22
And I'm just talking now I want. 02:10:25
I want the Commission to weigh in on this as a whole. 02:10:28
The evidence building is something we've been talking about for some time. It needs to happen. 02:10:31
My L value bridge replacement. 02:10:36
I think that can go down now that. 02:10:42
Other funds. 02:10:45
Hello, make a recommendation with your comment. 02:10:49
Is as we're going to seek some special funding from dot for these bridges, it might be good to leave them as a higher rank. 02:10:53
Even though with us reinforcing it. 02:11:00
The Regional Fire Response training center. 02:11:05
Miss named will change the change that name your. 02:11:07
That that number might might be OK to start. 02:11:13
But I I would see it. 02:11:18
As a higher ranking as well, just in my opinion, I think that's something that we recognize is needed in. 02:11:19
In the county. 02:11:26
It has all kinds of side benefits, right? 02:11:27
The recruitment retention. 02:11:32
ISO ratings insurance. 02:11:34
Et cetera, et cetera, How about with quality? 02:11:36
How about we fall? 02:11:39
Three and five with Ohio Bridge and the Sierra Public Safety Center. 02:11:41
Move that one up. Move that one down just a little bit. 02:11:46
Mr. Chairman, yes, Mr. Wilson. So I see on this plan we have the Fire Response Training Center and also Law Enforcement Training 02:11:48
Center. 02:11:52
At the bottom of that page. 02:11:57
Are we marrying those together by calling it, keeping them separate and? 02:11:59
And building potentially 11 spot with two different phases. 02:12:05
Something like that. 02:12:09
No, it's just a planning document, so I think we should. 02:12:11
Combine them. 02:12:14
And then in the scope of work, be very clear. 02:12:16
You'll see in the e-mail I sent you just broke up. 02:12:18
I just wasn't sure if there was any benefit to. I don't. I don't see one. 02:12:21
In my mind. 02:12:25
Unless we go don't look more specific funding. 02:12:28
For one versus the other. 02:12:31
If we marry them together, maybe we do a phase one and choose that we have a potential for additional funding. 02:12:34
Because if we go up to 3,000,000, I know you said you'd like to see a little more. 02:12:40
Funding for this year, Blanca. 02:12:43
And maybe we do a phase one and two and then that there's your additional funding. It's a phase one and two and two years. 02:12:45
In your plan you could do for 2027 plan and design and then 29. 02:12:51
Construction and they get the amounts. 02:12:56
What's their specific, you know, funding? 02:13:00
Law enforcement transfer versus a fire transit. I would rather be able to go. 02:13:06
Find that money separately. I'm not aware. Yeah, I think it'll make a difference. I'm not aware of it. 02:13:10
I mean when you say. 02:13:17
When you say. 02:13:18
Public safety. That's that's a. 02:13:20
This is kind of a. 02:13:23
Rush and it's it's well utilized throughout the country. 02:13:24
These centers and their fire. 02:13:28
Their law enforcement. 02:13:31
Read an EMS to some degree. 02:13:32
You know, expand, you know, in time. 02:13:35
And and that just touches a lot of. 02:13:37
A lot of groups. 02:13:41
You know, advocates for certain things and you combine them, I think. 02:13:43
The fake. The fake. 02:13:47
Joint training facility, yes. 02:13:49
Yes, and so. 02:13:51
And so when you. 02:13:53
When you combine them like that, I think it gives you a more funding opportunities and phasing. 02:13:55
In the plan. 02:14:00
Is absolutely a. 02:14:01
Appropriate and and clearly I would. 02:14:03
I would highlight the firefighting piece as phase one if there had to be. 02:14:06
A choice. 02:14:10
And then you move on from there. 02:14:12
So, so I think we mentioned that too. I would combine them and I think that the number. 02:14:15
That 3,000,000 is probably the start. 02:14:20
Because you want to call it phase one or two, I don't know. 02:14:23
What is the status on that anyway? 02:14:26
So we had a good phone call with Nick Crockett this week regarding the. 02:14:29
Sierra Blanca train. 02:14:35
His message? 02:14:38
Student Commission is our applications are standing very good. 02:14:40
They're asking a lot of serious questions, which is very good. 02:14:44
And that he is very confident. 02:14:48
That they're going to be funded in some capacity. 02:14:51
The timeline on those is we're thinking about. 02:14:56
August, September, Ish will kind of know if it's going to be funded. 02:14:58
And then with agreements, hopefully in December with those. 02:15:02
They'll know for sure in December with agreements in March. 02:15:07
Is kind of what they're saying. 02:15:10
But Nick's telling us that. 02:15:12
They're asking good questions, which means they're looking at them. 02:15:14
And they've got a very good chance of getting funded. 02:15:17
Thank you. 02:15:20
Along with that. 02:15:25
Something that we're going to bring to you here. 02:15:26
Either at the next Commission meeting or our workshop. 02:15:29
I noticed a discussion of location still. 02:15:35
We're going to bring you layouts. We're going to bring you pros, cons. 02:15:38
For your discussion. 02:15:41
So that we can maybe have a. 02:15:43
Direction going forward on that, so we continue our planning and design. 02:15:45
So when I get some land, if we call it the Shipley? 02:15:48
First respond. 02:15:53
Instead of Lincoln County. 02:15:56
So, umm. 02:16:02
What else? So we're just only cleared? 02:16:03
So we're going to combine these and we're going to take off the law enforcement. 02:16:06
Facility, are we? Yeah. 02:16:11
Yeah. OK. All right, we're doing. 02:16:12
But but we're not forgetting that. That's not at all. 02:16:16
Are you wanting direction of? 02:16:30
Ours re ranking these or. 02:16:32
If you have any further comments, you have an ICI or a resolution. 02:16:35
In your. 02:16:39
Consent agenda. 02:16:41
That with your requested revisions today, we will submit this to the state by our July 18th, July 11th deadline. 02:16:43
Thank you. 02:16:52
How? How important is the OES mobile command unit? 02:16:55
We have one. 02:17:00
Yes, Sir, we do. 02:17:02
Sorry. 02:17:03
And Green One emergency services director. 02:17:04
Chairman, Commissioners. The OAS unit is. 02:17:07
Very vital to this counties emergency services. 02:17:10
The one that we're currently using is 22 years old. 02:17:14
We've started to notice some issues with it we've been. 02:17:18
Good about keeping up with those issues, but we're afraid that as we go on. 02:17:21
We're going to continue to see issues out of that unit just because of its age. 02:17:25
And so that's why we're wanting to try to get the ball started now on replacing that unit. 02:17:29
I noticed the village of Ruidoso has a new unit. Do you know how that was funded? 02:17:35
I believe that they got that through I CIP last year. 02:17:39
And it's it's small. 02:17:42
It wouldn't work for what we need it for, but. 02:17:45
I believe that it was funded through ICIV. 02:17:48
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to see. 02:17:52
Some of these public. 02:17:54
Public safety management. 02:17:56
The higher priority whether you know he has. 02:17:58
You know, the law enforcement training facility, obviously, I think it's probably a priority number. 02:18:03
They're very close to the top. 02:18:08
Priority. 02:18:10
But yeah, when it comes to strategic water storage, I'd like to see some of those public safety issues being lived up. 02:18:11
A little bit higher and including but not related to the alias. 02:18:17
Yeah, I would like to see the regional training facility be #1. 02:18:21
Agree. Yes, Sir. 02:18:29
Now we will make the number one and we'll bump the rest of them down. 02:18:31
Well, so the OAS mobile command unit together. 02:18:37
Discussed with that he would be in the American. 02:18:40
I feel like there's a public. 02:18:43
Concern and I think that it's. 02:18:46
Entirely. 02:18:49
Necessary. 02:18:50
So one could imagine that. 02:18:52
Are you saying? 02:18:54
Superseding wildland urban interface barriers or are we expecting? I think they should be less side by side personally, because 02:18:55
one one hand. 02:18:59
Is the other shares a? 02:19:05
If there's a platform. 02:19:08
Can I just move it to the? 02:19:10
2027 planning year. 02:19:12
And then like. 02:19:15
And then just bump everything down because we still don't have to end in the first year anyways. 02:19:19
Should be 9 in that. 02:19:25
We'll make it. We'll make the OS. 02:19:28
Mobile command unit #2. 02:19:30
In 2027 and 2027, yes. 02:19:32
So. 02:19:42
When I get down to. 02:19:44
The second and last. 02:19:49
Items in the. 02:19:51
2031. 02:19:53
Port Health Sheriff dispatch backed up generators. 02:19:57
Why are we we saying 2031? I think that's a. 02:20:03
Must have right now. 02:20:06
Mr. Chairman, that's listed in 09 in my page. 02:20:08
And and he's he's got it on his on the side of 2031 I think with the 20 didn't want us. That'll be a corruption. His name is this. 02:20:12
3030. 02:20:21
2031's over. 02:20:22
OK, that that's fine. 02:20:25
But having said that. 02:20:27
I think that's that's a need now. 02:20:29
You want that moved up to the public safety stuff. 02:20:31
Yeah, yeah. Well, here's here's. 02:20:34
Here's my confusion I need. I need some some clarification. 02:20:36
I thought we had asked for generators for all of those. 02:20:41
Those units and this is almost redundant. 02:20:44
That's your statement. Document and leave the request to the congressional. Direct spending, and then we put a request in. 02:20:47
With that other program that. 02:20:54
The application was submitted for 4/06 money mitigation funds. 02:20:58
That's that's in there. We submitted for the Volunteer Fire Department generators. 02:21:08
We're going to submit the courthouse and the senior centers on the 4795. 02:21:13
406 funding. 02:21:18
So having these on here. 02:21:19
Whatever the priority. 02:21:22
Will accomplish that. So that's what we're going to do with these generators for funding. This is just a planning document that's 02:21:24
not. 02:21:27
But we can definitely move that up to. 02:21:31
2028 and make it up. 02:21:34
Our priority, yeah. 02:21:35
I guess if it doesn't happen. 02:21:38
Immediately in the computer. 02:21:41
That I have it on here. 02:21:42
We're still very much pushed, but I mean we've we've lost the dispatch. 02:21:44
Any number of times, right, We had to move it to OES, we had to use. 02:21:48
I think our command even at one point. 02:21:53
So, so they they, they work in a glove and. 02:21:56
Obviously the courthouse. 02:21:59
Which is. 02:22:01
And others. We need to have that. 02:22:02
And we did a lot of you did a lot of work. 02:22:06
Was an electrical company in May, right? 02:22:09
It did some analysis. 02:22:12
I think you you've talked to him since. 02:22:15
Is very much they're gonna very help us. 02:22:17
Put together accurate quotes and means that what we're asking for is what we actually need to accomplish what we're wanting. 02:22:21
OK, OK, so. 02:22:27
Clear up, Clear up the confusion by giving us the top five, right? 02:22:29
What do you think? 02:22:34
Top five based off the. 02:22:35
Recommendations from the Commission. 02:22:37
Will be #1 this year. Blanca Training Center number two in the OES command vehicle. 02:22:40
And then we're going to #3 the Wildline urban interface. 02:22:45
#4 is the evidence building of Sheriff and #5 will be the dividend. 02:22:48
Let me talk about what 6 being the strategic water source. 02:22:53
Each week we have it for. 02:22:58
So I'd like you to put on this list also. 02:23:01
The water. 02:23:04
Very good. OK. 02:23:07
Well, that's that's captured within the strategic. 02:23:12
Water plant, correct? 02:23:15
Water storage. 02:23:17
I don't care. Well, I mean, it's going to have to be a well. 02:23:19
We're going to put weather. 02:23:23
There's not enough roof over there to put rainwater in it. 02:23:25
Georgetown until they build your. 02:23:28
Until you build your facility. 02:23:31
If we get if out of that $1,000,000. 02:23:43
We can do that. We'll do it and be able to punch a hole. 02:23:46
Yeah, well, I mean. 02:23:51
I know that other Honda Health would have. 02:23:52
So does the NRCS, so those revenues to. 02:23:55
To make accomplish this mission. 02:23:59
Perfect, Sir. 02:24:02
Are we good did with that? 02:24:03
Was for 2027. 02:24:10
You were moving it up to 2027 number. 02:24:13
Since what was #2 by 2026? 02:24:16
125 says. 02:24:20
This is 20201731 OK. 02:24:22
OK, if we're done with that. 02:24:29
Good discussion. I think that was a great agenda. 02:24:34
Yeah. 02:24:37
This is very important. 02:24:38
Somehow I feel like. 02:24:40
We have to spend as much time on it as we like. We've talked about these things all along. 02:24:41
Are we done? 02:24:51
Manager on this I don't want to commend Ross and Jeff we're. 02:24:52
Kind of our project team and we are you're going to start seeing a lot of progress. 02:24:57
We'll get our procurement put in place. 02:25:01
Just working right now. We're coming up to the end of the year. He's got several projects that are coming to fruition. 02:25:04
And we're going to have. 02:25:09
I think two or three on your agenda for July. 02:25:10
Asking approval to go out the bid. 02:25:13
So. 02:25:16
We're moving on project. We're going to have a lot of progress happening very soon. 02:25:17
So. 02:25:21
I like the forward progress that's happening here in this Commission region. 02:25:24
Very much so. 02:25:33
Looks like a lot easier for all this and more efficient. 02:25:34
It's 1055. Let's let's recess for. 02:25:42
10 minutes. Oh, Mr. Chairman, Yes. 02:25:46
What Robert Biological Unemployment. 02:25:49
I will will convene our regular Commission meeting now. 02:26:02
That everybody's taking care of their biologists and narratives. 02:26:05
The the next item, there were three action items improve. 02:26:11
Special Meeting on 5/1/25 and the Regular meeting 520-25. 02:26:17
There any comments on? 02:26:22
Any. 02:26:24
1 wishes to make. 02:26:27
I had. I had one. 02:26:33
It's very, very minor nitpicky. 02:26:37
I usually read these pretty. 02:26:41
Closely there. There, in fact, is a. 02:26:43
I consider misspelling. 02:26:50
If you go. 02:26:54
Page 3 of 17. 02:26:57
Yes, I know you're going to ask your meeting. 02:26:59
It's the May 20th meeting. 02:27:04
And you go. 02:27:09
Underneath four, I guess it's line 112. 02:27:10
It's Feliz. 02:27:14
Montano. 02:27:16
Bridge. 02:27:18
Instead of Minnesota. 02:27:21
And that that's the only change I have. 02:27:31
Anybody else? 02:27:35
I'm looking away for someone else to make comment, not the comments you did you. 02:27:42
I'll take the motion to. 02:27:49
To accept both terms. 02:27:52
The minutes for both these. 02:27:53
Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that we approve the minutes 5/1/20 five and the regular Commission meeting as amended. 02:27:55
Provides 2025. 02:28:03
Mr. Travis yes, Commissioner, aye, Commissioner, aye, Chair Fisher. 02:28:14
Aye. 02:28:19
Thank you. 02:28:20
OK, the next item, Monthly accounts payable Payroll report May 2025. 02:28:22
I'm going to jail, please. 02:28:29
Good morning, Commissioners. 02:28:38
Good morning. 02:28:40
And I requested the leader of finance director. I'm requesting approval on the. 02:28:43
May must be accounts payable on payroll reports. 02:28:48
For the month of May, we actually spend 8 million 290,805. 02:28:55
.86 cents. 02:29:00
And that includes, of course, existence and the. 02:29:02
Send the questions. 02:29:07
Any questions? 02:29:09
I have no ideas and. 02:29:11
Trying to closeout all the POS. I think with this new Tyler system that I'm not too sure how it's going to work out yet. 02:29:17
But from what we understand, we can carry over. 02:29:25
Probably large PO. 02:29:28
But I'm not too sure. 02:29:32
Not sure how it's going to workout. 02:29:33
OK. It sounds like that would be more statutorial regulations than the Tyler? 02:29:35
It's going to be a procedural deal and we're very much, I want to commend Billy Joe and Sherry and. 02:29:44
Troy on this transition, I know it's a. 02:29:49
It's always a challenge with change. 02:29:51
Especially with. 02:29:55
The magnitude of information that we're switching over. 02:29:57
I think this system will benefit us. 02:30:00
As we get into it, but it is a large. 02:30:03
Change. And it's not just with our finances, it's countrywide. 02:30:05
So I really want to come in there because they're kind of they're leading this charge. 02:30:08
With that we're. 02:30:14
We're evaluating our. 02:30:15
County procedures. 02:30:17
Some counties every year closeout every PO and reissue with different numbers. 02:30:19
Some carry them over based on how the budget works, so we're evaluating. 02:30:23
Currently, what we think will work best. 02:30:27
For us as a county and work best in Tyler so. 02:30:30
We are discussing that. 02:30:33
That's good, I do have. 02:30:35
I guess a couple of questions. 02:30:38
8, $1,000,000. 02:30:39
Some very, very large ticket items here. 02:30:44
Terms of payments. 02:30:47
And this is this is a loaded question, but it's not meant to be. 02:30:50
And this is more for the county manager than anybody else. This is. 02:30:55
You're not going to like this. 02:30:58
But but who? 02:31:01
How? What? 02:31:04
Determines whether these are. 02:31:05
Really the right amounts. 02:31:10
In terms are we getting services? 02:31:11
For this money. 02:31:13
That that corresponds or correlate city. 02:31:16
Extraordinary expense that we're making. I'll give you some examples. 02:31:19
So Kathy can health clinic 17,000. 02:31:25
Carrizozo Health Center. 02:31:28
46,000. 02:31:30
And then the White Mountain clinic 15,000 and I could go at nauseam. I just I just looked at some. 02:31:33
Big ones, right? 02:31:40
It resolvers at 22,000. Who the hell is that? 02:31:41
I'm sorry, who is that? 02:31:45
A wicked. 02:31:46
Upfitters. 02:31:50
For 23,000. 02:31:51
I don't expect you to have answers for this. We've never. 02:31:54
We've never really done this, but I'm suggesting that maybe? 02:31:57
We take a top five. 02:32:02
And it doesn't have to be necessarily. 02:32:04
The most expensive ones to some things. 02:32:07
You know these contractors, we know what the work is, and it's outrageous. 02:32:10
This costs a lot of money. 02:32:14
But I would like to have some kind of. 02:32:15
Auditing. 02:32:17
Whether it's just two or three or 4. 02:32:19
Just just so that we feel comfortable that the money that we're. 02:32:22
Approving and you know, and you can't do this. 02:32:26
This is not your job. 02:32:29
You're somebody that's. 02:32:33
How many years? 02:32:34
Running, we've had no audit findings. 02:32:36
Are you 4, three or 4? 02:32:38
Or where's the where the? 02:32:40
The awards out there that we're supposed to have in the in the case I'm working on getting so but my point, you see my point. I 02:32:44
don't want to make a big deal about this, but I just feel like. 02:32:49
I'm saying yeah, it's good. 02:32:55
That's good, $8 million and I don't have a flu. 02:32:57
So. 02:33:00
You have a very valid concern. 02:33:01
Which is. 02:33:03
Part of our discussion. 02:33:04
And also. 02:33:06
In reality going to be part of my recommendation as we end. 02:33:07
All of our POS and start new ones that we review, all those that we have balances on our POS to move forward. 02:33:11
And that. 02:33:16
Eyes County Manager and our project managers. 02:33:17
Are responsible for their expenditures so that when you have questions. 02:33:20
Whoever responsible can consider Prince a Wicked Outfitters is this. We receive the services and I approve the invoice. 02:33:24
And Billy Joe and I have had that conversation that. 02:33:29
At least going forward and going into the next fiscal year that it's not going to be really approving invoices because you're 02:33:33
right, it's not her job to do that. It's her job to pay the check. 02:33:37
And that our project managers and someone's going to be responsible to those expenditures. 02:33:42
That's what I want to hear. I think that. 02:33:46
That does the due diligence. 02:33:48
Part of our our work. 02:33:50
That's fiscal response. Fiscally responsible, yeah. 02:33:52
It's not a treasure. 02:33:56
Commissioner Sherry House, Lincoln County Treasurer. 02:33:58
So every check that I signed, I verify that it was budgeted. 02:34:01
And so the three, the high ones you listed that is a monthly. 02:34:05
Payout for the clinics, the hospitals that we have every month. 02:34:10
That they came before you on the budget. 02:34:14
And we've itemized those for 12 equal payments. 02:34:17
And we pay those every month. 02:34:21
And I approve those. 02:34:22
And uh. 02:34:24
You know, 5.9 million of that with SW contracting NRCS. 02:34:26
So our actual. 02:34:30
You know it's down to three for the county expenses. 02:34:31
And let's say the wicked. I know exactly what that was for. That was budgeted. 02:34:35
That with the capital improvement project for a vehicle. 02:34:39
So I mean everything that. 02:34:42
They submit. 02:34:44
Comes to my office, I verify. 02:34:46
We signed, we make sure the funds are there. 02:34:48
So there's very good. 02:34:51
Internal control setup. 02:34:54
I'm very confident in that. I'm more interested in. 02:34:56
In the actual. 02:35:00
Delivering of services at the point of sale or at the point of service. 02:35:02
Who's receiving that saying, yeah, it's a good job? 02:35:06
I don't want to. 02:35:09
I'm not suggesting there's anything. 02:35:10
Nefarious or incompetent going on? 02:35:12
What I am saying that as? 02:35:15
As a Commissioner. 02:35:17
I feel responsible. 02:35:19
We're just making sure that. 02:35:21
We check on it. 02:35:24
From time to time. 02:35:25
Staying with me as county treasurer, I make sure everything we sign is verified and said it's budgeted. 02:35:26
Thank you. 02:35:32
I understand we're very. 02:35:34
Very happy with what you guys did thing that just goes back to the infrastructure improvements and the quality control that I've 02:35:36
been asking for. 02:35:39
In building permits that are needed for commercial building improvements. 02:35:43
Does work hand in front? 02:35:49
Absolutely. Well, well. 02:35:52
Okay. 02:35:57
I don't have any other questions. 02:36:00
Thank you very much. 02:36:01
So we have an action item on this. 02:36:10
I think to approve. 02:36:13
The accounts payable. 02:36:15
Payroll report. 02:36:17
Do I have a motion to make? A motion to approve? 02:36:21
The accounts payable and payable report for me. 02:36:24
By 2025. 02:36:28
2nd. 02:36:30
2nd. 02:36:31
Madam Clerk will call, please. 02:36:33
Commissioner, Father. 02:36:37
Aye, Commissioner Wilson. 02:36:38
Yes, Commissioner, Sir. 02:36:40
All right, Commissioner Thomas. 02:36:41
Aye. 02:36:43
All right. Thank you. 02:36:44
OK, now we have a fun time, a fun part of the meeting. 02:36:47
And this is consideration of Lincoln County Fair Board request for larger staff funding for fiscal year. 02:36:51
2025 and 2026. 02:36:56
I'm pleased to report that we actually do have a. 02:36:59
Properly filled out. 02:37:04
Largest tax request? 02:37:06
With an itemized list. 02:37:09
Spent on. 02:37:13
Mr. Schaefer. 02:37:16
America. 02:37:18
You want to talk to this a bit? 02:37:20
I do here, so we better give you a forum. 02:37:23
So, Mr. Chairman. 02:37:28
Something that we have. 02:37:30
Brought to you today. 02:37:33
And I will accept responsibility for this is. 02:37:35
I'm not coming to you ahead of time. 02:37:39
And they did provide me with the largest tax application to itemize, but I did want them to be able to present that today. So I 02:37:44
apologize for that not being. 02:37:48
And very much want. 02:37:54
Fair Board President Schaefer to. 02:37:57
Present his. 02:37:59
Request for funding. 02:38:00
Yes, Sir, please, you have. 02:38:03
That was about chief for resident. 02:38:05
Commissioner. 02:38:10
We just. 02:38:14
I guess I'll just start with the. 02:38:15
We have been using. 02:38:17
The largest tax for the last three years. 02:38:19
After the. 02:38:23
Covad year and we didn't. We used the money from the Stampede to put on the County Fair the money we make. We weren't able to do 02:38:25
that. 02:38:29
We came up with enough money. 02:38:34
Otherwise to put on the County Fair and then. 02:38:36
The next year we. 02:38:40
Started requesting largest tax money. 02:38:41
Help us do that. 02:38:44
It passed approximately over 100,000 to put on that rodeo. 02:38:47
And with our donations. 02:38:51
With our sponsors, the largest tax the Lincoln County and Capitan. 02:38:55
That's about 80. 02:39:00
Little over $80,000 that helps defer that cost. 02:39:01
We were informed that. 02:39:06
When we first inquired, did the. 02:39:09
Budget tax committee had been disbanded and by the time we. 02:39:13
They got a new committee and said that we were going to be past the date. That's why we were late. 02:39:18
This year. 02:39:25
The village of cafeterias he gives us 5000. They were unable to contribute at all this year. 02:39:26
And without the help of the county, that's. 02:39:33
You know 45,000 that we're not going to have to. 02:39:37
To you, so we. 02:39:40
At that point started. 02:39:43
To figure out how are we going to do this because we have obligations we have contracts with. 02:39:45
Stock contractors specialty acts that we've already signed so we. 02:39:52
We don't have a. 02:39:56
We have to go ahead. 02:39:57
And so. 02:39:59
The first thing we got was the concert. We're not going to do that. That's $20,000 that. 02:40:00
That we don't have. 02:40:05
We're not. We can't do that. We're trying to figure out how to. 02:40:06
Ago I was. 02:40:09
Telling manager brains. 02:40:11
We were He was just with us discussing the. 02:40:15
What we were going to do. And he said, well, maybe. 02:40:18
Maybe there's still a chance and. 02:40:20
That we can get some help. And so that's why we're here today. We're asking for the 40,000. 02:40:22
And I don't know, I guess I stand for questions. Anything you want to know about the fair board, I should be able to. 02:40:29
You have the prophet, the last statement, any question. 02:40:37
Can you walk us through the amount of sponsorship? 02:40:42
Dollars that you have for your event. 02:40:45
On here it says 7520. 02:40:48
I'd be curious to know how much they should be Rancho. 02:40:51
Where does it say? 02:40:55
That's not the terrorist that has no be. 02:40:58
So I'm not there. 02:41:03
Under the ship events funds is nothing here the 7000 is on the fair. 02:41:06
If you go when? 02:41:11
Come over to the Stampede. 02:41:13
42,700. 02:41:16
And sponsorships. 02:41:20
And where did that come from? 02:41:22
That comes from private. 02:41:23
Donations Chippy Ranch. 02:41:25
He gives us 10,000. 02:41:29
Matthew Transportation out of. 02:41:31
Texas in this 10,000. 02:41:33
If I could have left read on that. 02:41:39
Who is the? 02:41:44
Where do you approach it that? 02:41:46
I can't remember. 02:41:52
I don't remember his name, but he. 02:41:53
He was there, but anyways. 02:41:56
He had been. 02:41:58
This guy was a tiger. Roper's been the national final several times. 02:41:59
He was the radio coach at Texas Tech. 02:42:02
Matney is a big sponsor of. 02:42:05
Athletics in. 02:42:09
At Texas Tech. 02:42:11
But he was interested in. 02:42:13
Helping her rodeo and. 02:42:15
The reason we would. 02:42:18
Met each other 'cause we were the closest open. 02:42:19
Novice radio. 02:42:21
To a professional rodeo in these. 02:42:24
Students from Texas Tech The next step is to PRC 8. 02:42:27
So he he went to help us. 02:42:30
Because that's supposed to keep you get to a proverbial. 02:42:33
Before they turn growth. So that's how. 02:42:37
This you will go through this list. 02:42:42
I just wanted to hear the sponsorship scores so we can understand how we can help you shore up your. 02:42:46
And those two sponsorships? 02:42:54
They go to added money. 02:42:57
We add. 02:42:59
20,000 added money. 02:43:01
And the way added when you. 02:43:03
Is is we have a. 02:43:04
Average. 02:43:09
When the average money is paid out $2500. 02:43:11
For eight of ends. 02:43:16
Which equals the 20,000. 02:43:17
And that's how you get contestants to come. 02:43:20
Rodeo, that's the layer of the able to add 35,000. We can't match that. 02:43:24
The last two years we've been able to add 20,000. 02:43:30
And then we have individual sponsors. 02:43:34
Rather in the county for each event. 02:43:36
And those are in 1000, the 8 advanced. 02:43:40
We have sponsorships. 02:43:43
It helped pay. 02:43:45
Paid for the rodeo those. 02:43:47
Those sponsorships do not go to admin, they go to expenses. 02:43:49
And and that's how that bill works. We also have added money for our opening ceremony, for the cash scramble, for the mutton 02:43:54
busting, of course. 02:43:59
Anything that we can figure out a way to get another 1000? 02:44:04
You have paid for that $100,000. 02:44:08
I mean, does that answer your question? 02:44:13
We haven't left. 02:44:17
And again, the profit and loss statement that was included in our packet and the. 02:44:19
I guess I'm just a little confused. It says Fire relief $20,912. 02:44:24
Is this from last 20,000? 02:44:29
Is, you know, we had this big debate last year whether we were going to have the rodeo. 02:44:35
Or not. 02:44:41
Because of all the stuff that was happening in the county. 02:44:42
I was telling you, well, we. 02:44:45
We had. 02:44:47
We had to fulfill our contract with the stock contractor. 02:44:50
And with the special DX. 02:44:55
We have announced in our contact. 02:44:57
Or fire or whatever but it. 02:44:59
Our facility, there was no fire. It kept him. 02:45:01
So we just say. 02:45:05
Then we were going to go ahead and. 02:45:06
And do the review. 02:45:08
And we would lose just money doing it than if we didn't. 02:45:09
And so we did, and it was well attended the first night. We didn't wait three, we cut the price in half for the whole thing. 02:45:13
And we almost. 02:45:20
With that fire relief. 02:45:22
Is we had a donation? 02:45:24
Place for the people that came to the rodeo. 02:45:26
To donate. 02:45:30
They. 02:45:31
A little over $10,000. 02:45:33
Then we've got another donate from my. 02:45:35
Donation from a church in the northern part of the county of 10,000. 02:45:37
And then through some other money, we. 02:45:41
Wait, what are you wearing? 02:45:44
Who's 40 and we were able to drag the Lincoln County 40. 02:45:45
Foundation they checked for 40,000 under that. 02:45:49
But that fire relief? 02:45:52
Is in there as. 02:45:54
But all that money went through. 02:45:56
Yeah. 02:45:58
Well, I appreciate that. Umm. 02:46:01
I mostly want to focus on though the event does 23 days away. 02:46:02
And you're asked. 02:46:07
So if we could just go through that. 02:46:10
These numbers that were provided. 02:46:12
I don't believe all of those are allowable expenses, but maybe you can walk us through it and explain how these are tied to you. 02:46:15
The scores related events. 02:46:22
Renee could probably. 02:46:29
20 months of Lincoln County. 02:46:31
Fair Association. 02:46:34
Secretary. Treasurer. 02:46:35
On these the sanitation. 02:46:38
That's for the. 02:46:39
The green tree for the trash and the those are for the porta potties, the cannon. 02:46:41
Tory was really cleaning. 02:46:46
Captain Schools. 02:46:48
Why is green tree listed twice? 02:46:49
Probably because some of them were. 02:46:53
Dumpsters and some were. 02:46:56
Or Mercedes Rolla. 02:46:58
And then? 02:47:03
The security, you can see those send out lights and the fence and. 02:47:04
Tipo signs and recap of fire. 02:47:09
We have to give and then the advertisement I. 02:47:11
It's not attached here, but there was an attachment that. 02:47:14
What is the Sam S? 02:47:18
The $676 request. 02:47:20
Oh, Sam, That's Sam for supply. 02:47:25
Supply for trash bags and coke paper and. 02:47:27
Accounts and and and. You don't get this money until you. 02:47:32
You invoice. 02:47:36
Yeah, that's the receipt. So we evaluate the receipts, cancel checks, Yeah. 02:47:37
OK, so Rogers. 02:47:44
Tax is supposed to be. 02:47:45
Fire state statue used. 02:47:47
For promotion. 02:47:49
And some operational costs like? 02:47:51
Police, fire, sanitation. I don't believe that the Sam's Club purchase would be eligible. 02:47:55
What is positive school? 02:48:00
They were translate supplies. 02:48:02
With captain schools was. 02:48:04
With the. 02:48:06
Cleanups around the grounds. 02:48:09
They did that every day. 02:48:12
So that's where the operations of the event, I don't believe that that's in the world and. 02:48:14
The advertisement was. It was the. 02:48:19
Internet. 02:48:23
That was everything that you see on there. The only thing that we didn't get, I don't think he did. 02:48:24
The newspaper. 02:48:29
Because he had problems with the newspaper, so he did not. 02:48:31
And that Shad Cox, vice president, he's the one who's in charge. 02:48:34
The advertisement and most of the advertisement were posters and. 02:48:37
Programs and radio ads. 02:48:44
The printing. 02:48:47
The umm. 02:48:49
All the Facebook and the social media all, it was just all over. 02:48:50
Everywhere. 02:48:54
So those are cost money. 02:48:54
GoDaddy and I understand that. 02:48:57
Cost money advertisement doesn't give me heartburn because. 02:48:59
That's what lodgers text is for. 02:49:03
And since we are. 02:49:06
Omitting that part of the process because we're application is so late. 02:49:09
I think that we need to go through this with a fine tooth comb. 02:49:15
And you all can contact. 02:49:18
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as reading state statute in our local ordinance, I don't believe. 02:49:19
That operations Tory, Belle and Captain schools. 02:49:24
Or the Sam's Club is an eligible expense. I do believe sanitation. 02:49:29
Is in that first block of expenses that's requested. 02:49:33
In the second block it says Ryan event security for 3000. 02:49:39
And then the expectation would be that we provide lodging for Ryan even. 02:49:43
At $1299. 02:49:48
That's not. 02:49:51
In my opinion, something we should be funding since we're already paying overtime to the Sheriff's Department to be out there. 02:49:52
Well, the reason I mean this if you ask the question I want to answer. 02:49:58
The reason for the? 02:50:02
Ryan security lodging and that was in our. 02:50:04
Contract with her that we provided lodging. 02:50:08
And she stayed in the house that was renovated. 02:50:11
For Jeff at the County Fair. 02:50:16
And so then when the county took that, then we had to. 02:50:19
And. 02:50:25
That's a busy spirit. 02:50:27
That we didn't incur before. 02:50:31
I guess let me ask you, let me ask you this. So Social Security, is that an allowable offense? 02:50:34
Yes, but why are we damaged? Sheriff's Department to be out there on overtime and then praise and private security. 02:50:42
So what do they provide? 02:50:49
Yeah, they they this company watches the gates the. 02:50:52
Yeah, they watched The Gates. 02:50:56
It takes do that deal. 02:51:01
The sheriff's is out there for it. 02:51:03
You know, drugs and fights and. 02:51:08
Well, I think. 02:51:14
The lights are not allowable or fence. 02:51:17
Or the Home Depot signs. And what's Yucca fire? What are they doing? They had you going. 02:51:20
Redo all the fire extinguisher things there. 02:51:25
The valley fence. 02:51:28
And. 02:51:30
The lights are for security because over there was really dark in some areas where those contestants are. 02:51:32
So we had to have some security lights over there. 02:51:37
And the valley fence is how we kept people. 02:51:39
From entering certain areas. 02:51:42
It is security. 02:51:45
I'm not attesting that you are as. 02:51:47
Event promoters. 02:51:49
I'm just saying that this is not statutorily. 02:51:51
Allowed what? What? What is it? 02:51:55
Commissioner Turner. 02:51:58
Worry volume for 550 Captain. 02:52:00
Goals for 1200. 02:52:03
Sam's Club for $676. Ryan event security for 3000. 02:52:05
Security lodging for $1299. 02:52:10
Sunbelt lines for 1064. Valley fence for 6040 at the Home Depot sign for 81,000. 02:52:15
And I don't know what Yucca fighter is. 02:52:22
Yes, Mr. Wilson. So I see that the total cost of this is 125,030 plus and 40,000 so. 02:52:26
There's still there's a lot of costs that are incurred outside of the Logitech. I think that's where these expenses fit in. 02:52:32
I believe this breakdown was given to us as the representation of some of the expenses they incurred. 02:52:39
Not necessarily exactly what our. 02:52:44
Roger's tech really paying for so there's. 02:52:46
The $90,000 of other expenses that All authors test will not be. 02:52:48
Contributing. 02:52:52
A lot of these men aren't statutorily allowed for lodgers pets. 02:52:54
That's how I'm leaving. 02:52:59
Well, I mean we run with when we turn in our. 02:53:03
Invoices and are canceled checks. 02:53:06
The committee goes through and decides what's eligible, what's not. Is that not right? 02:53:10
Will we bypass that portion of it so before we. 02:53:15
Allocate the funds we need to make sure that it's for promotional advertising is what's related. 02:53:19
Expenses to bring overnight visitors. 02:53:24
In an effort to increase the lodgers tax funds. 02:53:27
But we have to be able to justify that this complies with state statute and so. 02:53:30
These items that I've pointed out do not. 02:53:36
Qualified under state statute for doctors tax use. 02:53:39
Now we can utilize. 02:53:42
General fund, but then we get into anti donation with that. 02:53:43
I think I think to get around this is. 02:53:49
Clearly, we're going to scrutinize. 02:53:52
Your receipts. 02:53:54
Right. And you need. 02:53:55
And it's incumbent upon you if you expect us. 02:53:58
To payout of lodgers tax. 02:54:01
That you point yourself very clearly with what you're going to submit. 02:54:03
And we will be looking at that closely. 02:54:08
So that we're not violating. 02:54:11
State statutes with respect to anti donation. 02:54:13
And that we follow. 02:54:17
How are the requirements? 02:54:19
There, so I'm perfectly Kate. 02:54:21
Perfectly happy. 02:54:23
With. 02:54:25
With approving the request. 02:54:28
Just as long as you understand that. 02:54:32
That you know 40. 02:54:34
If you bring us $40,000 worth of checks, they have to. 02:54:36
Said verifiably so within the statute. That's that, That's it. 02:54:40
Chairman Fisher. 02:54:45
Commissioners, usually what we do, that's what we do. We take all the receipts over. I go through them with Michelle. 02:54:47
And she? 02:54:54
Mark the ones that you fit. 02:54:55
And I thought she reverses us on it, if that's why you can see that maybe we didn't on some of those we did like last year, I 02:54:57
think it was 35,000. 02:55:00
800 something, not this number that you see here. 02:55:04
This was not. That's just some of the. 02:55:07
They reimburse us last year if you look on that. 02:55:09
That yes was 35,864 and she went through all the receipts and through the. 02:55:11
Michelle, is that right? 02:55:19
I would just like to everything. 02:55:22
You don't know there was just stated. 02:55:26
And first of all, Chairman, the ordinance is clear that it says no other days before the event there should be submitted. 02:55:28
It was due April the 3rd. 02:55:34
Our lodgers tax committee. 02:55:36
Quit for this very reason. 02:55:38
Because they're undermined. 02:55:41
Presented information with. 02:55:43
Their valued opinion, when it's their business, is bringing in this ledger's tax. 02:55:44
So with that, I'd like to also state for the record. 02:55:49
That procedurally this is an invalid application that shouldn't even be heard. 02:55:53
And continuing to ignore this undermines our ordinance and exposes accounting to claims of preferential treatment and non 02:55:58
compliance. 02:56:02
And also noncompliance with state. 02:56:06
Okay, I think we had. 02:56:11
We had some mitigating circumstances. 02:56:13
One, you did not have a properly qualified county manager. 02:56:16
Prior to Mr. Jones taking on a job. 02:56:21
We did have. 02:56:25
A interruption of. 02:56:27
Of the. 02:56:31
Perhaps. 02:56:33
Not their fault. 02:56:34
At all. I agree with you. 02:56:36
We need to talk about this with respect to. 02:56:38
How much weight we put on them so. 02:56:42
What? What's happened overtime? 02:56:44
Is that it's almost like and I think this is part of the problems with the. 02:56:47
The previous committee. 02:56:51
They felt like they were not being valued. 02:56:53
And and consequently they. 02:56:56
They would we would get all these. 02:56:58
Requests like we were reviewing them for the first time. 02:57:00
And that's wrong. Why have a committee if in fact we're not just? 02:57:05
Accepting their recommendations. 02:57:08
There is some due diligence required. 02:57:11
On our part, but I think we were not giving them. 02:57:13
And respect and consideration as they deserve. 02:57:16
Those those terms. 02:57:20
And some of those things were outside of your control, I think. I think that we're looking for. 02:57:24
A little better communication between US and you so that we can. 02:57:31
All be on the same page. 02:57:35
Again, I'm not accepting that. 02:57:37
It's your fault. 02:57:40
In that at all? 02:57:41
That I would I would recommend approval. 02:57:42
With take a microscope. 02:57:45
On what receipts that you guys submit, make sure that they actually are right. 02:57:49
And that that keeps us from from being. 02:57:53
From the anti donation standpoint I think. 02:57:56
It is a special circumstance, and as much as. 02:58:00
This is a big deal. 02:58:04
For the county and I'm willing to. 02:58:05
To support it. 02:58:08
Support the request. 02:58:09
And unless there are other comments, I would suggest that we have a motion to approve. 02:58:11
Is there someone to do that? 02:58:18
And it's requested by the. 02:58:20
The amount of what? 02:58:23
40,000. 02:58:24
But they're a question like this. 02:58:26
With unallowable expenses listed in it. 02:58:28
I'm sorry for interrupting, you had something to say. 02:58:31
Mr. Chair. 02:58:36
Commissioner Chavez. 02:58:39
I looked into the ordinance. 02:58:40
But it talks about the time frame. 02:58:43
And basically what it says is. 02:58:45
The applicant should. 02:58:48
Submit the application within 90 days or three months since the language that says. 02:58:50
And it says failure to do that. 02:58:55
Means that you may or may you may not. 02:58:56
He granted the application so. 02:59:00
You all have some discretion. 02:59:02
In in the deadlines. 02:59:04
It's up to you to use your judgment about whether you. 02:59:08
Whether you want to or not. But it is a should and it's not a shallow right? 02:59:11
And where are we with the allowable expenses the. 02:59:17
Ordinance and the state statute. 02:59:19
Well, the I was just looking at the statute as well and it looks like. 02:59:21
I'm not sure if you could translate this the same way, but it says one of the things that you can. 02:59:28
Paid for is. 02:59:33
Fire or welcome? 02:59:35
Some of the things you can pay for our police fire. 02:59:37
Sanitation. 02:59:40
So I don't know if you can equate that with security. 02:59:41
But. 02:59:45
Might be able to make the argument and I. 02:59:46
I would I would equate to, I think. I think the way out of this dilemma. 02:59:49
There's two things we're going to strengthen. 02:59:53
The Logitech Committee and their influence on these decisions. 02:59:56
We're going to. 03:00:01
Encourage. 03:00:03
All applicants to be more timely, although we do have some. 03:00:05
We do have some discretion with respect to that. 03:00:09
And then a third piece to it. 03:00:13
Is that we're going to scrutinize. 03:00:15
The receipts. 03:00:18
Outside of the previous. 03:00:19
Process and make sure that we're following. 03:00:22
To the letter. 03:00:26
What the statute says. 03:00:28
So we have a motion. 03:00:30
On the table. 03:00:31
Do we have a second? 03:00:33
2nd Madam Clerk, roll call, please. 03:00:36
Mr. 03:00:47
Yes. 03:00:51
Commissioner Wilson, Yes. 03:00:52
Chair Fischer, Aye. 03:00:53
Motion passes. 03:00:55
Thank you. 03:01:00
OK. 03:01:08
The assembly paper, security and lodging when we have our definitions out there. 03:01:12
What happens? 03:01:19
All right, so. 03:01:22
The next one. 03:01:26
Is item 3/4. 03:01:27
Consideration Advertiser RFP 24. That's 25. That's communication. 03:01:29
Lincoln County, Mr. 03:01:35
God morning. 03:01:37
Commissioner, Sure. 03:01:41
More options. 03:01:43
Well, today. 03:01:47
You know, we're just. 03:01:50
Recommending your or. 03:01:51
Your consideration for the. 03:01:54
Advertising the RFP. 03:01:56
2425. 03:01:57
8R guy in this tower. Communications tower. 03:02:00
This is a revision. 03:02:03
It's the R in there. 03:02:04
We had. 03:02:06
Tommy West. 03:02:08
A wonderful consultant help me. 03:02:09
To ensure this one is. 03:02:12
Was revised to include the federal working so we. 03:02:14
I'm sure it does. 03:02:17
What state and? 03:02:20
It's an offense, yes. 03:02:23
Yes. 03:02:24
And this is from the Oh yes. 03:02:26
Department essentially. 03:02:29
We can have, you know, good communication as you all know. 03:02:31
We're in a direction by Corona. 03:02:34
And I stand for. 03:02:39
Questions. 03:02:40
With Nick, he's done a really good job putting this together with Tammy Weston Input. 03:02:44
We're confident that it's going to comply with all publicly. 03:02:49
We've got a schedule that we're going to have this back to you by. 03:02:52
July Award. 03:02:54
My question is more technical. 03:02:57
So one of the, one of the. 03:03:00
The statement that's made in this. 03:03:03
Is that? 03:03:06
We're going to improve. 03:03:08
Communications capability and accounting. 03:03:11
How do we know that? 03:03:14
So my understanding of this project is. 03:03:22
Out there before. 03:03:25
The intent of this tower is in the radio communication, is that correct? 03:03:27
Yes, that is correct. Chairman, commissioners going to do an emergency services director. So the whole purpose behind this guy in 03:03:33
this tower project. 03:03:37
Is the tower that we're currently on, is not. 03:03:41
Is not very. 03:03:45
Up to date. 03:03:47
It's an old power. It's a short power. 03:03:48
Honestly, I would be afraid. Afraid of losing this tower in a high windstorm, something like that. 03:03:51
This tower is going to improve our capabilities by one building us a better. 03:03:56
Stronger tower. We're going to be higher in the air, giving us better radio coverage. 03:04:01
And we own the site. 03:04:06
We're not having to piggyback off of somebody else. This, this would be ours. 03:04:08
Is there a source of revenue? 03:04:15
Would it be a source of revenue? Are we going to be the only person on the tower? 03:04:18
As of right now, it sounds like there may be a deal in the works with. I believe it's Central NM Electric. 03:04:23
Where they're going to pay for the electricity and stuff like that going into the tower for a spot. 03:04:30
So it's going to be a trade off. 03:04:35
But as far as the source of revenue, we have not. 03:04:37
Explored any of that? 03:04:40
OK, so my my question and I get all that we talked about this in the past. 03:04:43
But it's kind of almost off topic. 03:04:48
But we have a lot of there are gaps. 03:04:51
You know, in radio coverage in this county. 03:04:54
There are companies that are, there's the ability to use. 03:04:56
Sensors like, for lack of a better term. 03:05:00
That will allow us to go to different places, pick up signal strength, what the bands are. 03:05:03
So forth. 03:05:08
When was maybe we should do that? 03:05:09
And that's actually something. I'm sorry, Chairman Fisher. 03:05:12
That's something that we have been looking at. That's something that we've already approached the new county manager with. It's 03:05:15
something that we're planning on doing. It's just not here. 03:05:20
Just. 03:05:24
Anyway, I'd like to see. 03:05:27
Something done with that and I know that there are areas, particularly in the Arabel era, which is such. 03:05:29
Susceptible to fires. 03:05:35
And I'll tell you a radio coverage here. 03:05:38
Man, it's rough. Very rough. 03:05:40
So unless there are any other questions, we can move on. 03:05:43
Any questions? 03:05:47
Thank you. 03:05:49
So. 03:05:51
I'll entertain a motion to approve. 03:05:52
Advertising this RFP. 03:05:57
24-205-8R. 03:05:59
Galena's communication star. 03:06:01
Motion please. 03:06:04
Make a motion that we approve. RFP 24-25. 03:06:05
Dash 84 Granous. 03:06:10
Communication Tower. 03:06:12
2nd. 03:06:15
Madam Clerk, please. 03:06:18
Commissioner Wilson, Yes. 03:06:21
Commissioner Chavez. 03:06:22
Aye, aye, Chair Fischer. 03:06:24
OK #5. 03:06:30
#5 Consideration. 03:06:33
RP24-205-11 on call. General contracting services for Lincoln County again Mr. Moran. 03:06:37
Chairman, 2425 past 11. 03:06:45
This is a new RFP. 03:06:49
For general contracting services. 03:06:50
I believe to do what the caveat do want to put down. 03:06:55
Exceptional contracting services other. 03:06:59
Counties have construction in the. 03:07:01
Title. RFP. 03:07:04
If that's required or not, but I believe we do want to add that in there. 03:07:05
But this is a in. 03:07:11
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, so with this, what we've been talking about with several of our. 03:07:15
Not necessarily large projects coming out, but are. 03:07:20
Important projects that. 03:07:23
State pricing and CES don't always provide us. 03:07:27
The best? 03:07:30
And it's always a good rule of thumb to have contractors directly contracted to us. 03:07:31
We control the narrative. 03:07:36
Along with that is we're also able to. 03:07:38
Encourage local contractors. 03:07:42
And that's the real point of this, is to have them directly contracted to us to encourage our local contractors. 03:07:44
For projects such as our Commission chamber updates, our sub annex updates are we're hoping to do the ambulance. 03:07:49
Bangladesh, so and there is a limit to these and it's also at the discretion of the Commission if it needs to be something that's 03:07:56
appropriate for an on call. 03:07:59
Or if it's something that we need to individually fit out. 03:08:04
So we're intending for this to be a multi. 03:08:06
But it's to get our local contractors on board so we can utilize utilize them at our discretion. 03:08:09
How does the scope of work rate? 03:08:15
So the scope of work is going to be something that's going to be an on call general contracting for construction services at the 03:08:17
need of the county. 03:08:20
What type of licensure is going to be required? Are you looking for all disciplines or just looking for is going to encompass 03:08:23
everything that we need for general concept? 03:08:27
Any other questions? 03:08:38
Have a motion to. 03:08:40
I have a quick question. If I if my company plans on doing this can I vote on? 03:08:42
You as Commissioner Chavez. 03:08:48
Yeah, I think in that particular case. 03:08:50
You may want to recuse yourself. 03:08:54
Yes, I would recommend that you recuse yourself. 03:08:59
I mean, I'm staying, correct? 03:09:02
Yeah, just a statement about. 03:09:05
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion. 03:09:07
Approve RSP 252425. 03:09:10
Dash 11 on call, General contracting services for Lincoln County. 03:09:13
2nd. 03:09:18
Aye, Commissioner Travell. 03:09:22
Sustainable. 03:09:29
Mr. Wilson, Sure. 03:09:31
Aye. 03:09:34
Now we move on to consent items. 03:09:39
There's a whole list. 03:09:45
13. 03:09:48
Do we have any questions with respect to these? You want to pull any of these out? 03:09:51
For further discussion. 03:09:55
I have 3. 03:09:58
That might pull out two. 03:10:06
I'd like to pull out. 03:10:10
3. 03:10:12
And four. 03:10:16
Anybody else? 03:10:20
Hearing none. 03:10:29
I'll entertain a motion to. 03:10:30
Approved consent items with the except one. 03:10:32
13 with the exception of 2-3 and four. 03:10:36
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that you approve the consent agenda items. 03:10:43
With the Gadioto. 03:10:48
4 does that go? 03:10:50
Mr. Fisher. 03:11:06
Aye. 03:11:08
Any question for? 03:11:10
Mr. Burns is on #2. 03:11:13
This is the IPRA policy. 03:11:16
I think I understand that my my concern on this particular 1 was. 03:11:20
How is this implemented with the Sheriff's Office? 03:11:25
So, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 03:11:28
Is becoming a problem with the statement. 03:11:34
It is being weaponized. 03:11:38
And several aspects. 03:11:42
So. 03:11:44
What this policy is doing is establishing. 03:11:45
How the county as a whole. 03:11:49
Is going to document log. 03:11:51
Received and reply to it present weird. 03:11:53
Required by state statute. 03:11:57
To answer your question, Chairman. 03:12:00
We have been in close contact with Sam. 03:12:03
Chavez He has been working very closely with Miss Vanessa and Mississippi as we. 03:12:06
Getting ready to implement this. 03:12:12
And this helped protect him as well because currently, right now. 03:12:13
We do not have an established. 03:12:17
Procedure to receive and reply to these. 03:12:19
They go to the court, they go to the treasurer and they go to Jeff, They go to. 03:12:22
They go wherever. 03:12:25
Establishing A singular point. 03:12:26
Of receiving emperors and replying to Ipras. 03:12:29
Is going to help us with our structure and help us be essentially defensible. 03:12:32
As these come in and we receive questions. 03:12:37
The way this is going to work is we're going to establish. 03:12:40
The which is already in place. The public records request e-mail as those come in. 03:12:42
We will log them, we will receive the three day and we're going to forward these immediately to. 03:12:48
Stand for his review and reply because he's doing a great job with these and he's. 03:12:53
Very on top of these. 03:12:58
So this is going to tie him in when he talked with him a little bit. And like I said, he's helping Vanessa just as we implement 03:13:00
this. 03:13:03
Councillor my my interest on this. 03:13:08
Really. So who's liable for late? 03:13:14
But but in answering either the initial query or the. 03:13:17
County, I mean. 03:13:22
So what? What happens with the Sheriff's Office? 03:13:24
Are they going to be held Michael 2 or? 03:13:27
Well, it would still come out of the county's treasury. 03:13:29
As we refined. 03:13:31
There's a word of turn speed. 03:13:34
Wouldn't be separate? 03:13:36
OK wouldn't come out of the sheriff's budget per se. 03:13:37
All right, who's going to be your cousin? 03:13:43
Conduit he Have you decided yet? 03:13:47
And I answered no was OK. 03:13:51
We are going to. 03:13:56
It's gonna be a. 03:13:57
Miss Vanessa is our HR manager is going to be our. 03:13:59
Emperor Custodian with the assistance. 03:14:02
Any other? 03:14:07
Questions or comments on that particular item? 03:14:08
Mr. Chair, if I may, yes, and. 03:14:11
Jason and I had talked a little bit about this earlier. 03:14:13
Part of the what's in the policy is it's written as in the County Attorney will review all responsive records, ensure compliance. 03:14:16
With confidentiality. 03:14:23
And. 03:14:25
I just want to make you all aware that that does become an expense. 03:14:26
If legal is reviewing every document that goes out. 03:14:30
So you may want to consider. 03:14:33
An aspect where. 03:14:35
Legal. 03:14:39
Things that are. 03:14:40
Other than routine. 03:14:41
And things that where the question is complex. 03:14:43
But. 03:14:48
If if if you all want us to review every document that goes out. 03:14:49
We can do that. 03:14:53
But I want to make sure that you're aware that that's in the policy. 03:14:55
I don't. 03:15:00
The lawyers are very much included on every row. 03:15:04
Now their extended service is based on what we asked them to do. 03:15:08
So they are included, and they do. 03:15:12
Essentially look and review at every different. Now if they put any effort into it, that's a different. 03:15:14
As we is directed by myself, so so in the past. How? How, what? 03:15:21
Determination. 03:15:25
Has how did we determine whether or not? 03:15:27
Your level of involvement was. 03:15:29
Substantial or otherwise, do we know or just something? 03:15:32
For Lincoln County. 03:15:36
Haven't had two. You've had a few issues where things have come up, but not not a lot. Usually it was with Sam Chavez. 03:15:38
And other counties where where I've worked what we. 03:15:44
It's usually they're difficult for studying. And he says, hey, I've got a question about this. 03:15:48
And what should you know? What should we think about it? 03:15:51
And every once in a while, I think like Courtney on my paralegal will catch up and say hey. 03:15:54
I started out this or that. 03:15:58
But because they're because we're constantly in the flow of. 03:16:00
Of communications, so you're routinely getting them anyway. 03:16:03
We're getting them, but we don't review every document that goes out. 03:16:07
So it's incumbent upon us. 03:16:11
Tag them and say hey I got a question on this. 03:16:14
And a lot of our tempers are very straightforward. 03:16:19
They're asking for documents, we provide them. 03:16:22
Cinema and like I said, the the County Attorney is included on all these. 03:16:24
He is included is is our legal representation, but as much as his level of effort, he's worked by us and. 03:16:31
As Vanessa, if it's something that's more than just provide us a document that we have readily available. 03:16:37
You should be on every single e-mail thread. 03:16:43
Well, part of part of the advantage of having us on the. 03:16:48
Just on the. 03:16:53
Is that? 03:16:54
To the extent there's. 03:16:55
Attorney-client communications. 03:16:57
You have an argument that. 03:16:59
The communications are privileged. 03:17:01
So there's some benefit to that and to the extent that it involves. 03:17:02
Legal advice. 03:17:05
But I guarantee you that I don't read every e-mail. 03:17:07
That that is a different e-mail. 03:17:10
Probably spend the rest of my. 03:17:13
Might be doing nothing else. 03:17:15
So I just like. 03:17:17
Catch, I see it and then unless somebody flies it to me, I just I wait to hear from somebody does it. 03:17:19
Does it make sense for us to put? 03:17:25
Some sort of caveat language in the review procedure. 03:17:27
That lightens the. 03:17:32
On the requirement. 03:17:34
Mr. Chairman, I'd request that we keep it the way it is because our attorney essentially is included in and does not. 03:17:37
It's a level of effort that we directed, it also included and it's at least in his e-mail. 03:17:44
That when if we need to talk to him, it's included in his e-mail, they've already. 03:17:48
As so. 03:17:52
His level of effort will be directed by us. 03:17:54
But at that extent, I would ask you to leave it the way that it is. 03:17:57
Any other comments or questions? 03:18:03
I have a question. 03:18:06
Jim, please. 03:18:09
So ours are very specific. 03:18:11
Sam will be answering those or no, not at all. 03:18:17
Do we have? 03:18:29
A basic letter that when I get it, IPRA. 03:18:30
To say OK you need to reply to this e-mail. 03:18:33
As soon as we receive an emperor, and I'll be forwarded to you and you answer just the way that you do. Now come back through the 03:18:36
message. But they send them to me, so I'd have to forward them to her. She gives them back to me, then I respond. 03:18:41
To Vanessa Dorth World. 03:18:47
OK, so. 03:18:49
This is going to be our construction now we forward this on. 03:18:51
So everything is documented. OK, that's my only question I want to make sure. 03:18:54
Miss Clark, do you have any comments on that? 03:19:01
Not on that, but. 03:19:04
Side note, we just have low bandwidth again, so we have. 03:19:06
Stop streaming. 03:19:09
And so. 03:19:10
We're free to talk. 03:19:13
It will be still recorded and uploaded after the meeting. 03:19:14
But the live streaming has stopped just. 03:19:21
So everybody's aware. 03:19:23
Thank you. 03:19:26
And hopefully that's what it looks like. Internet's ow ow. 03:19:28
Yeah. 03:19:31
I want to I want to act on this. 03:19:33
This this one issue. 03:19:36
OK. As far as it was they're being directed, I like the idea of having one central. 03:19:40
Location were all directed to. 03:19:46
And then dispersed from there so that we we have. 03:19:49
One person who is accounting for the timeline. 03:19:51
Because that is what will get us in trouble. Yeah, every time. We just do that. 03:19:54
I'm glad you brought that up, because this is my question for the Council again. 03:19:58
So when clock. 03:20:02
Start, so there's a. 03:20:05
So if the. 03:20:07
County Clerk. 03:20:08
Gets an IPA request. 03:20:09
And then she sends it to our. 03:20:13
Custodian. 03:20:17
Does the talk start when she gets it? 03:20:18
No, with this policy. 03:20:21
With this resolution. 03:20:24
If she receives. 03:20:25
It will not be a valid. 03:20:27
It goes through this e-mail. 03:20:29
And that's why we're establishing this, because they're going everywhere right now. 03:20:32
I see our lawyer. 03:20:37
Shaking his head the opposite direction, I thought I was trying to be more subtle. 03:20:38
Well, all right. 03:20:43
So so. 03:20:44
It we can, what we do with our policy is one thing. State law is the other thing. 03:20:47
So as soon as, as soon as it's on an accounting premises. 03:20:52
Guitars. 03:20:56
So I disagree with that, Sir. I'll go ahead. Let's recommend to pull this so we can have some further discussion with the lawyer. 03:20:57
And then we'll bring this back to you in July. 03:21:03
Because and that is not my. I think that's a good idea. I'm I'm happy. I'm happy. 03:21:07
Table table of discussion. I I I would make a comment though. 03:21:11
So, so so if you send me an e-mail so. 03:21:17
Somebody sends me an effort request. 03:21:20
My e-mail. 03:21:22
Just as an example. 03:21:23
And I don't read it. 03:21:26
Because I frankly, everybody knows in this table that I don't read my e-mail every day. 03:21:27
All day long. 03:21:33
I try to get to it but I don't know it. 03:21:34
When does the clock start? 03:21:36
So I had a case. 03:21:39
If you want to hear a story. 03:21:40
Very brief. That'll be very brief. I had a case with the city of Albuquerque and I worked there. 03:21:42
Where somebody sent an effort request by fax to the mayors office. 03:21:46
And. 03:21:50
Nobody could ever find the facts with the request. 03:21:52
The judge said. 03:21:55
Because the the person who sent it had the. 03:21:57
Facts received. OK. 03:22:00
It was. 03:22:02
It was deemed by the judge to have been received. 03:22:03
At that place at that time. 03:22:06
OK, a lot of support though it was. 03:22:09
It's sticky, which is why we were trying to establish a single point. 03:22:13
Yeah, I think I, I'm very much in favor of. 03:22:18
Organizing this this response I've seen. 03:22:22
All of us struggle through these multiple responses or these requests. HIPAA. 03:22:25
I'm in general in favor of it, but I these. 03:22:31
In these questions. 03:22:33
Are important and we need to. 03:22:35
To talk about it and they'll give you the opportunity. No, we've sent this for review. We just haven't got our proper comments. 03:22:37
Table. 03:22:44
Do I have a motion to table? 03:22:49
This item. 03:22:53
I make a motion that we could. 03:22:55
Green table cassette item number 2. 03:22:57
Resolution 2025-61. Accepting the approval of. 03:23:02
The upper Pals. 03:23:07
We have a second. 03:23:09
9 + 4 car place. 03:23:13
Yes. 03:23:19
Commissioner Frederick. 03:23:20
Aye, Commissioner Sermon, AYE, Chair Fischer. 03:23:21
All right. 03:23:24
Three sets ourselves. 03:23:26
Till 12:35 for lunch. 03:23:27
All right, let's reconvene this Commission meeting. 03:23:31
We still have business to complete. 03:23:39
The two other items that were taken out of the consent items and. 03:23:44
Oh, sorry. 03:23:52
And I think. 03:23:53
I think I'd like to have. 03:23:58
Why you so much? 03:24:02
I didn't care where it said. This is one of your agreements. 03:24:05
Mr. Chairman, we're ready to go. Mr. Chairman, Commissioner, so we have. 03:24:21
Agenda items 3 and 4 which are for the same. 03:24:29
Entity to provide similar services but different. 03:24:32
I'll speak for number 3 is. 03:24:37
Mr. Vega wants to speak with #4 and I'll let him go in the room. That's on it. But. 03:24:41
What this is, is we procure. 03:24:46
The entity Decker Technology and what they're doing, from my understanding, is they're going to do a sweep of the Internet. 03:24:49
And all the Airbnb there's going to identify the ones that are not currently paying us water tax and then it'll be up to us to 03:24:56
take our repercussion to go. 03:25:01
And go through our process. 03:25:06
To ensure they are registered and are paying. 03:25:09
Portion of the water stacks. OK, that's that's good. I understand that. 03:25:13
Mr. Vega. 03:25:17
What? What's the assessor's office? 03:25:18
Desire in this? 03:25:21
So we were with grandkids and we were happy with them also. 03:25:23
But. 03:25:27
I believe that. 03:25:28
Kelly And then we're not happy with them, so they they wanted to go to. 03:25:30
Decker So we thought we were going to Decker also. That way we would have a. 03:25:35
Same provider, but. 03:25:39
The reason we do it also is because we. 03:25:43
You know, in in the city limits. 03:25:47
Well, they only do that outside of the city. 03:25:51
So that's why we have to have that's that's what I wanted to know. Why are we duplicating licenses? 03:25:55
That's the reason why, because if we just use theirs, they're only scrubbing outside of city limits. 03:26:01
Out in the county. 03:26:06
To where we want to be fair and. 03:26:08
So do we have a delta and the price? 03:26:11
Point you can turn the Sunday. 03:26:13
Shelley's deal is looking for. 03:26:16
Largest tax to where yours is identifying. 03:26:19
The image and fully understand right OK. 03:26:23
But why do we need? 03:26:26
OK, so you told me why you need two different different. 03:26:30
Software licenses. 03:26:33
Are the software licenses costing the same for both? 03:26:34
We have a price. 03:26:39
For them to do, the portions are different. 03:26:41
Based on the number of properties. 03:26:43
I didn't see that in there. 03:26:48
The planning departments is I think 15,000 and the assessor just started 1000. 03:26:51
For a total of $45,000 for this service. 03:26:56
How about? How about the? 03:26:59
Automatic renewal. 03:27:01
Stop. I hate automatically like this. 03:27:03
To see if you're. 03:27:06
We'd like to see if our baby's worth a bug. 03:27:08
Or the bucks worth of banning. 03:27:11
The intent behind this and at least. 03:27:14
As we're moving forward. 03:27:16
Is this is going to have an agreement number with an expiration date? 03:27:17
And these agreements are going to start coming back up as we renew. 03:27:21
So it's not just going to be an annual renewal that I sign off on. 03:27:24
It's going to come back to you for authorization to renew. 03:27:27
And at that point you can pull it and discuss it shall be automatically renewed. 03:27:30
On a one year basis. 03:27:35
We will bring that back for your. 03:27:37
Approval because at some point someone got signed it on that one year. 03:27:40
One year basis. 03:27:44
So I don't I don't see that being signed and something that says automatic. 03:27:46
You comfortable about that? I mean, I just. 03:27:52
I'm just raising a point, right? You know, it's like. 03:27:55
Like when you buy nature's balance. Balance of nature. 03:27:58
And it keeps coming whether you're using it or not. 03:28:02
Vitamins and stuff. 03:28:05
Mr. Chair, if I may, yes. 03:28:07
I'm not sure, I don't have the document in front of me but. 03:28:09
Most of the time, those work in the fashion that. 03:28:12
They don't require further. 03:28:15
RFP's. 03:28:17
So there will be. 03:28:18
You'll still have to sign. 03:28:21
And they'll be before you for approval, but they don't require further. 03:28:23
The state price agreement though, right? 03:28:28
Yeah. 03:28:31
Essentially what he's trying to say is it could be for a 3-4 year period on an annual one year renewal, but we still have to bring 03:28:32
it before you renew that review. 03:28:36
And the price goes up 5% per animal, right? 03:28:40
Percent Max, it won't go. 03:28:44
That's 5%. 03:28:47
And then are are you happy with the? 03:28:49
Being required to. 03:28:55
Contestants might have go. 03:28:57
Have to go to California for litigation. 03:29:00
Did you see that? 03:29:03
I did not see that that corporation sent his bylaws to California. That's in there. 03:29:04
I don't know. I'm just asking these questions, all right? 03:29:10
It says uh. 03:29:17
Determined agreement shall commence on the effective date shall continue. 03:29:19
Can you enforce an effect for a period of one year? 03:29:22
Good. The term shall be automatically. 03:29:25
Renewed thereafter additional periods of one year each. 03:29:29
Unless. 03:29:33
Requires affirmative action by. 03:29:34
You or the board? 03:29:38
Less terminated by either party by giving written notice of termination the other party not less than 60 days before the end of 03:29:41
the. 03:29:44
The concurrent terms. 03:29:47
That information shall have no effect on it. 03:29:49
You know, whatever you owe up to that point. 03:29:53
So I it. 03:29:55
You know, I know this is kind of standard. I just hate, I hate these damn corporations. 03:29:56
Holding all the cards. 03:30:03
It says payments, annual software subscription. I guess I'll look 15,000. 03:30:08
5000 to drive. 03:30:15
Compliance. 03:30:17
STR registration Licensing portal. 03:30:23
4.5000 annually. 03:30:26
So I don't know what. 03:30:28
I don't know what this costs. 03:30:29
And then you want to use this as a user. That's typical. 03:30:45
So that's the largest tax. 03:30:50
I think it's just important. 03:30:52
I'm not. I'm not gonna. 03:30:57
It's gonna be a no on it. I just don't like it. 03:30:59
The clarification is the one being utilized by Michelle. 03:31:02
Paid for out of Rogers tax and then the other one out of your 1%. 03:31:10
Question. All right, So I'll entertain a motion to. 03:31:23
Yes, 3 and 4. 03:31:30
2nd please. 03:31:45
Commissioner Wilson. Commissioner Travis. 03:31:49
Chair Fischer, Hi. 03:31:55
Thank you. 03:31:57
OK, so item number 5. 03:32:01
Non action item discussion only. 03:32:03
Thank you. Thank you, Vega. 03:32:07
Discussion regarding Lincoln County Board of County Commission meetings, monthly recurring date time. 03:32:10
Mr. Chairman, Commissioner, this is something that. 03:32:16
One of the Commissioners asked that we. 03:32:19
Considered just so that. 03:32:22
And have a discussion regarding our. 03:32:25
Reoccurring. 03:32:28
Meeting dates and times. 03:32:29
And along with this would be our. 03:32:32
Workshops that we do a resolution for. 03:32:33
Just so that they're not. 03:32:36
Overlapping some of these public meetings with other. 03:32:38
Of our neighbors that we might need to attend so. 03:32:41
With that, our current. 03:32:45
Resolution states that we're going to have a reoccurring. 03:32:47
County Commission meeting on the third Tuesday of every month at 8:30 in the morning. 03:32:51
And I think the current resolution brings that we're going to workshop. 03:32:55
Every second Tuesday at 8:30. 03:32:58
So what that will? 03:33:01
Who's this mystery, Commissioner? 03:33:04
Ask for it. That would be I. 03:33:06
Kind of knew that. 03:33:10
It's complicated. So is that is that the first two the second Tuesday? Rather, is that is that the one that conflicts? That's 03:33:12
that's the word. 03:33:16
That their meeting doesn't start until 1:00 PM yeah, but we're. 03:33:21
But if we kept the workshop still with a. 03:33:25
Were intended for they should be over by noon. 03:33:28
A workshop itself. 03:33:33
So we're talking about meetings with workshops here. 03:33:37
What does the workshops? Yeah. 03:33:40
So I know which one went up. 03:33:43
So, so meetings still third Tuesday. Obviously we had a couple of changes because of. 03:33:44
Events beyond our control. 03:33:49
The workshops are the. 03:33:52
Second Tuesday of the month, one week before which we have not had one in. 03:33:53
3 two months. 03:33:58
133 sessions. 03:34:01
OK. My next question is. 03:34:03
I guess you still need the workshops after. 03:34:06
After what we have. 03:34:10
Accomplished here and. 03:34:11
I want to. I believe we don't. 03:34:13
Personally. 03:34:15
Any other news that I don't like that? 03:34:19
I'd like to give staff more time so that hopefully we can get the agenda sooner. 03:34:26
That's that's my comment. 03:34:30
I think that we. 03:34:35
This is a very good. 03:34:36
Start your own piece. 03:34:39
We need more detail. I'd like to see that. 03:34:41
Now, quite frankly, I would like to be able to review the agenda, all of us. 03:34:45
Review the agenda before the day before it goes out. 03:34:49
Why? Because you may have items that you want to discuss. 03:34:53
And frankly, I need a little more time to look at it myself. 03:34:59
Chairman. 03:35:04
If we could make that. 03:35:06
Going forward that somehow. 03:35:08
I mean, even if it's a skeleton, you know? 03:35:11
We can. 03:35:15
We can get it out for you. 03:35:17
So let's get that. 03:35:19
And that'll take the burden. 03:35:20
Off of us for the workshop. 03:35:22
I think we try that. 03:35:24
And if we find that, that's unacceptable. 03:35:26
For whatever reason. 03:35:29
Then then maybe we can reconsider but but I would I would suggest that. 03:35:31
We no longer have workshops for the time being. 03:35:36
Until otherwise directed. 03:35:39
You agree with that, Mister? Just one comment to that major. 03:35:41
Since we have a resolution for the workshops, we just. 03:35:45
Carefully. 03:35:48
I want to tell you. 03:35:50
Councilman permanently. 03:35:52
Leave the resolution stepping in case we do need a workshop. 03:35:54
OK, let's. 03:35:57
It's a great idea. You want to just just. 03:35:59
Not that's what the resolution. 03:36:03
Let's stand pat. 03:36:06
And then we'll just. 03:36:08
One I have a workshop or not? 03:36:12
I greatly benefited from the workshops we cast. 03:36:14
I think there's. 03:36:17
I don't think we need one everyone, but then maybe time to the rise that would you? 03:36:18
Yeah, I think the ICIP work we could have accomplished better in a workshop than what we did today. Although I'm. 03:36:22
I feel good about the information provided by you all and since we had. 03:36:30
We all have pretty good knowledge of those things we were able to do. 03:36:34
A credible job. 03:36:38
But I'd like to have more time. 03:36:39
Mr. Chairman, with the addition of. 03:36:43
Of really just a spectacular job. 03:36:47
By the county manager. 03:36:51
On being able to prepare these agendas and get the information to us. 03:36:52
I agree. I agree with you guys on at least postpone. 03:36:56
Those workshops intend. 03:37:00
Until it's necessary. 03:37:02
Or maybe have a quarterly workshop? 03:37:05
If needed, yeah. Or have a workshop. 03:37:10
As we are, I think, I think we've already made the decision that we'll, we'll start scheduling as needed. 03:37:13
And we'll be very. 03:37:21
Flexible with that. 03:37:22
Because I think there's still value in it is that? 03:37:25
Do we agree with that? 03:37:27
Are you good at that? There was no action. 03:37:29
Discussion only. 03:37:34
But so just to confirm. 03:37:36
Just to confirm, the schedule stands right? 03:37:38
We will not schedule a workshop till we schedule. 03:37:41
So we're going to cancel the 1:00 that's currently scheduled for July 8th. 03:37:44
We'll send out a notice on that and make that official cancel. 03:37:48
OK, yes. 03:37:53
OK. 03:37:55
The next next. 03:37:58
As the county manager report. 03:38:00
Parents are department updates with parents. 03:38:03
OK. Thank you. 03:38:07
I hope so. I really hope so. 03:38:34
Did everybody see the map? 03:38:39
Somewhat recently. 03:38:40
Chairman Fisher, Commissioners. Good one. 03:38:46
Emergency Services director. 03:38:48
So just to touch on a couple of the quick highlights before I dive into the update on the. 03:38:51
Recent large fire we had for May of 2025. We had 33 calls for service. 03:38:55
Including four brush fires, seven false alarms. 03:39:01
9 motor vehicle accidents, three power line calls. 03:39:04
Illegal burns, 2 rescues, 1 gas leak and five fire alarms. 03:39:07
Did anybody have any other questions on? 03:39:12
Will they deliver your burdens cited? 03:39:15
And that's. 03:39:17
Not my department, I'm sorry. 03:39:23
The I mean we've implemented the $0.00. 03:39:27
For the little burns. 03:39:31
OK, so that up. 03:39:36
So so if if. 03:39:41
Oh yes, or some fire department or somebody reported to the Sheriff's Office. 03:39:43
You guys. 03:39:48
Ascertaining. 03:39:49
Whether they need to be cited or not. 03:39:50
You would do that, yes. 03:39:54
OK. 03:39:56
Well, we need that. We need to set an example. 03:39:59
I mean we have a 0 tolerance because I mean. 03:40:02
Period. 03:40:06
So let's make that happen. 03:40:10
OK. We'll make sure that they're all getting reported to. 03:40:12
The deputy. So to dive into a quick update on the fire that we had at Fort Stanton, fire started on May 25th. 03:40:14
We were dispatched at 1552 in the afternoon. 03:40:25
To the area of the old Camp Sierra Blanca. 03:40:30
Which sits right about here. 03:40:34
Fire was reported just behind that. 03:40:38
What we ended up finding was the fire was. 03:40:41
Originated somewhere around 700 to 1000 yards behind the old cancer bunco, which is currently the homes of. 03:40:44
Killing America's heroes. 03:40:50
Well, in route, the Lincoln Volunteer Fire Chief. 03:40:53
Jake Canavan reported a large column of smoke starting to become visible and requested mutual aid from Captain Volunteer Fire 03:40:57
Department in 1559. 03:41:01
Upon arrival of the Lincoln Fire Chief, he reported the fire at 5 to 10 acres with a high rate of spread. 03:41:06
And he arrived at 1605. 03:41:12
The next arriving unit was myself. 03:41:18
Right around 16101612. 03:41:20
After a short discussion with Jake Canavan. 03:41:23
It was decided that I would take command of the fire. 03:41:27
I went ahead and assumed command and punched the ticket on more mutual aid. We requested the Needle fire department, Glencoe and 03:41:30
Honda Volunteer Fire departments. 03:41:34
As well as. 03:41:40
An air attack platform in two single engineer tankers. At that time, the fire was estimated at 25 to 30 acres. 03:41:41
It was also at that time that we went ahead and made the decision to start evacuations, everything from healing America's heroes. 03:41:49
Out to Hwy. 380 so that included all of the veterans that were. 03:41:56
At Healing America's Heroes, all of the visitors at Fort Stanton. 03:42:00
All the dispersed camping along. 03:42:05
West Mesa Trail, Red Cloud Trail and the Objective Campground. 03:42:07
It was decided pretty early on that our primary focus was going to be structure protection along the black deck Pershing Rd. 03:42:14
Meaning everything from the Healing America's Heroes compound. 03:42:22
Down Black Deck Pershing Rd. 03:42:25
In a sense, protecting. 03:42:27
4%, that was our highest risk at that point. 03:42:29
Once air attack arrived over the fire. 03:42:34
We had a short discussion with Air Attack. We got an update on acreage and fire behavior from the Air Attack platform. 03:42:38
He was guessing the fire at 50 to 100 acres, high rate of spread and his recommendation was more air assets. So we went ahead and 03:42:44
made that order as well. We ordered 6. 03:42:49
Heavy air tankers. 03:42:53
One Type 1 helicopter and one Type 3 helicopter. 03:42:54
Did you get them all? 03:42:57
Yes, we got everything. We were painted that area. 03:42:58
It was very pink. 03:43:01
For a while. 03:43:02
We're still watching Pink off the truck. 03:43:03
At 1634, we contacted Rd. Superintendent Honeycutt. 03:43:07
And asked for his assistance as well. He provided us 2 water trucks from the road department as well as open the fairgrounds for 03:43:11
the evacuated animals coming out of Healing America's Heroes and the Rob Yarder Campground. 03:43:17
Shortly after that. 03:43:25
We had a meeting with myself and all the federal partners, BLM, US Forest Service. 03:43:26
And New Mexico State Forestry that we're on scene and we decided to go ahead and order the Type 3 incident management team, the 03:43:31
local Type 3 incident management team. 03:43:35
So we placed that. 03:43:40
Request sometime right there around 1630 as well. 03:43:41
At approximately 1800 hours as the fire spread passport Stanton. 03:43:47
It was confirmed that we had lost 2 structures at that time, with one structure being damaged. 03:43:51
And those were going to be in the. 03:43:57
Old Internment Camp, which is located directly kind of behind the post office at Fort Stanton. 03:43:59
So you've got to go down the road. 03:44:06
And cross the river and get across. We did have units engaged in that area. The fire just came through a little hot, little fast. 03:44:08
They just couldn't hold it. 03:44:12
From the building. 03:44:16
They were very old. 03:44:17
Voice instructors. 03:44:19
There just wasn't a whole lot. 03:44:21
Fire crews could do down in. 03:44:22
At 1803. Any other questions? Additional support from Rigoso Fire Department. 03:44:26
They sent us an additional 2 engines and a water tenders. 03:44:31
Those were ordered in New Mexico State Forestry. I believe they may have been ordered on the resource mobilization plan. 03:44:34
And then at 1855 after talking with. 03:44:42
BLM. 03:44:46
We found that the fire did originate on BLM land, so to keep. 03:44:48
They're stuck straight. They wanted to go ahead and take him in at the fire and we did that just before. 03:44:51
7:00 That evening we went in and turned the fire over to the BLM. 03:44:56
So shortly after transfer command. 03:45:03
Or while we were in the process of transfer command. 03:45:06
Units found a good opportunity to start a burnout operation along this W Mesa Rd. 03:45:09
Hanging it in along the Highway 220 corridor. 03:45:15
They went ahead and did that. 03:45:18
And by 2000, they had effectively stopped forward progress of the fire with that burn operation. 03:45:19
And I got to say that. 03:45:26
Joseph Luna. 03:45:27
Of the emergency services firefighter, he was the one that kind of pushed that idea, the chain. 03:45:29
He was kind of the one that coordinated it with the Alam and those other resources and they did an absolute fantastic job at that. 03:45:34
That was some real heads up firefighting. 03:45:38
I really got to give him props when it comes to that. 03:45:43
He's he's calling a wildland. 03:45:47
Fire. So we've been using him as a wildland coordinator. 03:45:51
Coordinator. Yes, Sir. 03:45:55
And he does that. 03:45:57
Very, very well. So he's taking care of all the reimbursements, all the JPA paperwork, all that stuff for all of our Volunteer 03:45:58
Fire departments. 03:46:02
As well as training and stuff whenever it comes to. 03:46:05
Tactics and stuff like they used at this fire. 03:46:09
So he's doing an amazing job at that. 03:46:12
So are all those guys red carded? 03:46:16
No. 03:46:19
Certifying people for we did hold. 03:46:20
A couple of pack tests this past year, but most of the volunteers they don't. 03:46:24
They don't want to participate in that and that is their prerogative. 03:46:28
They don't have to be recorded. 03:46:31
But it is an option to them and we did hold those those tests for them this year. 03:46:33
For the ones that wanted to do it. 03:46:38
So after that happened, we transferred. 03:46:42
Command over the BLM. The BLM held on to the fire until the Type 3 organization took over the next morning. 03:46:44
Around 2200 that night, they went ahead and released all of the county resources back into initial attack status back into their 03:46:51
home districts. 03:46:55
Because we had the fire stopped, they felt pretty good about holding it through the night and then with the additional resources 03:47:00
on order that were coming with the Type Three team the next morning, they felt comfortable with being able to hold on to it. 03:47:05
We did keep the 2 water tenders from the road department, they were a huge help. 03:47:10
And their primary job was filling engines and filling defects for the helic. 03:47:15
And they did an awesome job at that. 03:47:19
We had some back and forth about different. 03:47:23
Still sites and stuff like that, but all that got worked out pretty quick and. 03:47:25
Went pretty smooth. 03:47:29
Right, so in summary of the whole fire. 03:47:31
We it burned a total of 877 acres. 4 structures were reported lost. 03:47:35
It was the. 03:47:41
2 old houses in the internment camp. 03:47:43
The gymnasium and the internment camp. And then there was a shed at the shooting range on 2/20 that also burned. 03:47:45
So that was the 4th structure that was considered lost in that. 03:47:51
County county resources, including command staff, volunteers and road department assets, supported the fire and the incident 03:47:56
management team the entire week to the 25th through the 30th. 03:48:00
So Lincoln Volunteer Fire Department actually stayed on site. 03:48:06
The incident management team uses the Fort Staunton Fire Station as their incident command post. 03:48:10
They stayed on site, supported that incident management team. 03:48:15
Did a great job with that. My staff stayed on site. 03:48:18
We were in and out. 03:48:22
The entire week. 03:48:23
Just checking on things, making sure all the paperwork was done and everything was good. 03:48:24
And so that all went very smooth. 03:48:29
The fire was considered 100% contained. 03:48:32
At 1830 hours on May 31st. 03:48:34
And the cause of the fire remains under investigation by federal law. 03:48:37
And with that, I'll stand for any questions on the campfire. 03:48:43
Very good. 03:48:49
Who do you want to come in there and his guys on this? 03:48:53
There was great communication throughout this incident with me and with y'all. 03:48:56
So this I mean as far as it goes. 03:49:00
They really had this thing stopped. 03:49:03
By Monday morning. And just where those? 03:49:05
Differences makers came in and if we better map the area. 03:49:08
So they had this thing. 03:49:11
Kind of like we were saying earlier. 03:49:12
They jumped on it, got it stopped, got it knocked down and. 03:49:14
Kind of preventative for being. 03:49:17
What it actually could have been blessed. We didn't have much wind either, which was fantastic. 03:49:18
Yeah, on the initial attack we were seeing winds about 15 to 25 miles an hour. 03:49:23
So it was just enough to really push it through the riparian vegetation and the grasses and the. 03:49:29
PJ Country that was in the area. 03:49:35
Thank you. Thank you very much. 03:49:41
So yeah, just while you're here. 03:49:48
You've got some maps where remember you did that analysis where you thought there was a high risk areas. 03:49:52
That we needed to actually do the treatment. 03:49:58
Are you you working on? We are working with them. We're identifying those areas. 03:50:01
Work with. 03:50:08
So we're Nick smokes and smokes a lot. 03:50:10
Yeah. 03:50:17
OK. 03:50:18
County manager, you have the floor. 03:50:21
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners know. 03:50:26
Few comments, not that many. 03:50:28
The first thing I'd like to. 03:50:33
Kind of mentioned bring up is. 03:50:35
We have been working with the Sheriff's Office on their. 03:50:38
Vehicles we have. 03:50:43
Essentially promised them poor vehicle this year. We're coordinating some grant funding. 03:50:44
And some county funding that we will bring to you in July. 03:50:49
For a budget adjustment and a clarification on so that we can get them there for vehicles this year, we're going to try to really. 03:50:53
Make that a reoccurring cost that comes before you every year during budget. 03:50:59
But we are working with them on that because we don't want them to get behind so. 03:51:05
Wanted to let you know that that's in the works. 03:51:09
Our NFCS and our FEMA funding, just a few updates on that and I know that more attractive up here talked a little bit. 03:51:16
All of our FEMA funding for our. 03:51:22
Adjust projects is obligated. 03:51:25
We're waiting for some grant agreements. 03:51:27
And we have commitments from DFA for both. 03:51:30
The 9.3 million. 03:51:35
To match the 37. 03:51:37
That's right, it's the match for the 37 million fellow Jeffrey Project. 03:51:39
It is a match and the obligation. We also have the 4 million for the additional NRCS money. 03:51:44
As a commitment. 03:51:49
So, umm. 03:51:50
Just to put it on your radar, if we get those agreements within the next week or two weeks? 03:51:52
I might request a special meeting to bring all those before you, just as. 03:51:59
A package. 03:52:03
The other thing that is forthcoming hopefully within the next couple weeks is our. 03:52:05
Reimbursements of the emergency funding. 03:52:09
From my understanding the $7,000,000 has got through peer review which is the big check. 03:52:13
It is now kind of getting the. 03:52:19
Pencil whip through EHP because everything is going to be within county right away. 03:52:21
And we should be seeing that sub grant agreement hopefully within the next couple weeks. 03:52:26
Along with that, we've been talking to federal highways. 03:52:31
And in MDOT for the Cedar Creek portion and the Raceway truck. 03:52:34
Portion of those. 03:52:39
The reimbursements that we expended during the disasters. 03:52:41
We sent a letter to NBOT that concurred with us that was sent to NMDOT and they agreed with NMDOT assessment. 03:52:47
And those should be going in for FEMA review and reimbursement as well. So we should be made whole. 03:52:54
Minus our match. 03:52:59
Hopefully within the next couple weeks or so. 03:53:01
So that's. 03:53:04
A bunch of really positive good news on our FEMA funding that should be. 03:53:05
Happening soon and. 03:53:09
Very much maybe a special meeting to approve all of this package. 03:53:11
I wanted to let you know that we have reached out to the contractor for some upgrades to our Commission chambers. 03:53:19
A little bit of paint, a little bit of sealing, maybe get rid of some of the water spots. 03:53:25
Give it a nice little update. 03:53:29
Make it look like we do. 03:53:31
Good business in here. 03:53:33
So we're going to also look at hanging off. 03:53:34
Larger screen over here and try to coordinate those. 03:53:37
Where they can be seen by everybody. 03:53:40
And. 03:53:43
I think it'll be really nice by the time we get done, but we're going to try to have that done by July 15th. 03:53:44
So we're going to kind of RIP them off and let them go and. 03:53:49
Hopefully it'll be a different one by the time you come back. 03:53:52
I really want to kind of give some shout out to Vanessa and Sissy. They put some. 03:53:55
Packages together and they've really been helping us on our. 03:54:01
Employee recognition. 03:54:04
And they had some packages this morning that they gave to them as they walked out the door. So we were on recognize their efforts. 03:54:05
And appreciate them. 03:54:11
We've talked about a lot. 03:54:18
We have a lot going on. 03:54:20
We're going to continue this momentum forward and you're going to start seeing action here soon. 03:54:21
Largest tax We've got a lot of those several deals. 03:54:26
We're going to be putting an application forward for some digital boards through that Logitech application. 03:54:29
And their consideration, hopefully we can bring back to you in June. 03:54:35
That July. 03:54:38
We're working with the logistics to one make sure they get to the meeting. 03:54:42
But then also they can evaluate. 03:54:46
Our funding request though. 03:54:48
We're very much on the upward stroke of this deal. 03:54:53
We're about to have it in hand. 03:54:55
So we're moving in the right direction. I'm confident that. 03:54:57
This is going to continue onward and upward. 03:55:00
So. 03:55:02
That I'll stand for any questions. I don't think I have anything else. 03:55:04
Have a recommendation on the larger size committee? We're still short one larger so. 03:55:08
If you all could, send an e-mail out here with the vendors. 03:55:15
Asking them to submit a letter of interest to the Commission. 03:55:19
Instead of bringing some options. 03:55:25
We just made one person. 03:55:27
Thank you. OK. And anything else? 03:55:30
Where are we at with the PACE study? I know we have some staff. 03:55:39
Yes, ma'am. So we've got our initial. 03:55:45
Meeting with Valiant. 03:55:48
It went very well. We have a lot of really good information. 03:55:49
We're putting that together. 03:55:53
As part of our. 03:55:55
Presentation to you. 03:55:57
The intent is to present that to you, unless our initial recommendations probably in closed session during July. 03:55:59
And then we'll do an implementation, probably an action item in August if we kind of evaluate that. 03:56:04
Or charge job descriptions and kind of where we're wanting to take the county. 03:56:09
Fiscal impact. 03:56:13
Yes, Sir. 03:56:14
That's it. 03:56:18
Recess, our meeting. 03:56:24
To executive session. 03:56:26
Before, do you have any comment? 03:56:27
I never hesitate to talk. 03:56:40
So I want to echo the comments from all. 03:56:44
Progress being made. 03:56:50
And a progress promise. 03:56:52
Again, I want to emphasize the fact that. 03:56:56
It's wonderful to see things. 03:56:58
Happening. 03:57:01
So keep up the board, he's all happy with the electronic. 03:57:05
Version of the agenda? Extremely. 03:57:08
Try to serve Marcus very happy. 03:57:13
Oh come on, you gotta try it one time. 03:57:16
I'm just going to drop this off. 03:57:19
OK. I'll just wait out here, OK. 03:57:36
Make a motion to be going to executive session. 03:57:43
Thank you. 03:57:51
Roll call, Madam Clerk. 03:57:53
Good luck to come out of the. 03:58:01
Executive session. 03:58:17
I just the matter discussed in the closed meeting. No action. 03:58:24
OK. 03:58:40
You ready for a motion to adjourn? 03:58:46
We're in a comments questions. 03:58:50
You want me to vote on this testation? 03:58:52
Coming out of the. 03:58:55
No, we don't. Not in the executive session you're not in. 03:58:58
We haven't done that. 03:59:02
I've seen it done before, just we both. 03:59:06
And that's why I got this afternoon. 03:59:11
We vote to go into executive. 03:59:14
But now. 03:59:17
Executive and now we, unless there's anything else we're going to vote to. 03:59:19
You're in a meeting. 03:59:24
I think we need to probably make a statement that we don't intend to take any actions on any. 03:59:26
Items coming out of executive session. 03:59:33
Would that be the proper way to do it? 03:59:37
Although I'm not sure I heard it all, but I think we did. 03:59:41
I didn't know. 03:59:45
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 03:59:54
Per your direction during. 03:59:56
Executive session there will be no further 2. 03:59:59
I think we should take action. 04:00:17
Yeah, that'd be fine. So, so we do have one. 04:00:27
And the motion motion could be worded this way. 04:00:34
He directed the county manager. 04:00:38
To engage in negotiations. 04:00:43
For the acquisition? 04:00:46
Building formerly known as the Magistrate. 04:00:51
Work building. 04:00:54
And I think that's it. 04:01:01
That's an acquisition. We need to put that on the record. 04:01:07
Talk with someone. Make a motion that similarly reflects what I said. 04:01:11
Here's the motion. 04:01:25
I think the character make a motion. 04:01:26
The motion is. 04:01:30
Commission. The Board of Commissioners. 04:01:32
Has directed the county manager. 04:01:35
To engage in negotiations. 04:01:39
Resulting. 04:01:43
And and and other. 04:01:44
Other processes. 04:01:49
Resulting in the acquisition. 04:01:50
Of the building formerly known as Magistrates Court. 04:01:54
Soonest. 04:02:00
Hey, let me get a motion to adjourn if you're. 04:02:17
Fine with that. 04:02:20
Mr. Chavez. 04:02:25
Aye, Chair Fisher. 04:02:27
Hi. 04:02:29
Answer call please. 04:02:38
We got credit for. 04:02:48
It doesn't, all right. 04:02:49
Commissioner Freda. 04:02:53
Aye. 04:02:55
Right. 04:03:02
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Test, test. Can you hear me? 00:00:05
OK. Yes, ma'am. 00:00:07
So .30. 00:00:09
Madam Clerk will call, please. 00:00:14
Commissioner Sharma. 00:00:17
Here, Commissioner Prader. 00:00:18
Here. 00:00:20
Chair Fischer here. 00:00:23
Can we have the invocation stand if you so desire? 00:00:25
Standard, all of your goodness and mercy. 00:00:33
Please help us to be minute. 00:00:35
And women of integrity. 00:00:37
Who put the needs of others before our own room? 00:00:39
May we strive to serve. 00:00:42
With humility and compassion. 00:00:45
Help us to seek. 00:00:47
Your will. 00:00:49
And all our actions and decisions. 00:00:50
Amen. Amen. 00:00:52
Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:54
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:56
For the United States of America. 00:00:59
And to the Republic for which it stands. 00:01:02
One nation under God. 00:01:04
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:01:07
Thank you very much. 00:01:20
So we would immediately go into. 00:01:22
Presentations and public hearings the first thing. 00:01:24
Would like to hit on would be public. 00:01:27
Comments if there. 00:01:29
Go ahead. 00:01:33
Thank you. 00:01:36
I move, we approve the agenda and authorize the chair to move. 00:01:39
But it's just necessary. Second, please. 00:01:41
Second roll call please. 00:01:43
Which one do you choose? 00:01:49
Aye. 00:01:58
Commissioner Wilson. Commissioner Chavez. Chair Fisher. 00:02:00
All right. 00:02:03
OK, now we'll go into. 00:02:05
Presentations and public hearings. So first of all I'd like to do is. 00:02:08
Ask for public comments. 00:02:12
From anyone in the audience. 00:02:14
Here's to come up for three minutes and speak. 00:02:16
On any subject. 00:02:19
There's a lot of people out here. 00:02:25
Sure. OK, move on then. 00:02:29
This is kind of the funnest part of the whole deal. 00:02:33
Today. 00:02:36
It's a service recognition and presentations. 00:02:38
That I've been honored to. 00:02:41
Give and so. 00:02:44
The reason why we're doing this, really. 00:02:46
We don't. We don't talk about our employees enough. 00:02:49
Here in the county. 00:02:51
They serve us all, doesn't matter what position. 00:02:52
We're in. 00:02:56
We really depend. 00:02:57
On the people that work. 00:02:59
In the county. 00:03:02
For the benefit of all the citizens. 00:03:03
So I'm going to come down here and. 00:03:06
Present these. 00:03:08
The certificates of appreciation. 00:03:10
Hopefully everybody who is. 00:03:13
Receiving a party will actually come down. 00:03:17
So the first one would be Christopher Church. 00:03:20
Let me read. I'm going to read 1. I don't know if I'll read them all but. 00:03:31
This is for one year of service, right? 00:03:35
And that's a. 00:03:37
That's pretty fantastic. We're really proud to have you here. 00:03:38
Part of the Sheriff's Office and the broader. 00:03:42
County Community. 00:03:45
We're so proud to have you as a. 00:03:47
Part of our. 00:03:49
Work Family. 00:03:50
We hope that you keep up the great. 00:03:52
Work with the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office for years to come. 00:03:54
On this 10th day of May, 2025. 00:03:58
And actually it's the wrong date. 00:04:01
It's a test. 00:04:03
Day of June. 00:04:05
Thank you, Sir. Thank you. 00:04:07
Very much. 00:04:08
And the next one is Todd Gentler. 00:04:15
Todd, there he is. 00:04:18
Terrific, Todd. 00:04:26
Thank you very much. 00:04:27
And the same thing goes really where? 00:04:29
We're so proud to have you as part of our our community, our workforce. 00:04:31
And we hope that you keep up the good work. I know you will. 00:04:36
And. 00:04:39
We hope to see you in Lincoln County Road Department for years to come. 00:04:41
Congratulations. 00:04:45
How about Shane Helter? 00:04:51
Oh, there he is. OK. 00:04:54
I thought he was standing. He actually was sitting down. 00:04:59
We're so proud to have you as part of our work family, Shane. 00:05:04
And we hope that you keep up the good work with the Lincoln County Road Department for years to come. 00:05:08
And thank you very much. Congratulations. 00:05:12
And Mr. Joe Vega. 00:05:19
On down. 00:05:23
Good to see you, Joe. Thank you so much for coming taking out of your day. 00:05:31
Congratulations. 00:05:34
We're proud to have you as part of our work family. 00:05:36
We hope that you keep up the good work with the Lincoln County Road Department for years to come and congratulations and welcome. 00:05:39
Thank you. 00:05:44
The next one is for Tendaya Thors and five years of service there she is. 00:05:52
Congratulations. 00:06:05
Thank you. Thank you very much. We're so proud to have you as part of our work family, Zendaya. 00:06:06
We hope that you keep up the good work with Lincoln County Appraisers Office for years to come. Congratulations and thank you for 00:06:11
your service. 00:06:14
Not too many know people know this guy, but we're going to ask him to come down anyway. Five years of service. Brian Sampson. 00:06:21
Congratulations, Brian. 00:06:34
Thank you. 00:06:36
We're proud to have you as part of our work family as well. 00:06:37
And we hope that you keep up the good work with the Lincoln County Office of Emergency Service for years to come. 00:06:41
They're not. 00:06:46
And this one's for 15 years of service. 00:06:51
That's a long time. 00:06:54
Gilbert Zamora. 00:06:56
Chairman, he wasn't able to make it. No Sir. 00:06:57
Well, Gilbert, we're proud that you're here for 15 years. I want to see. 00:07:00
Stay with us for a long time. 00:07:04
To come and where Sergeant Rex Spears come. 00:07:06
Sure, you couldn't make it, He's on vacation, so except for him to get it to him. 00:07:10
15 years. 00:07:15
To survive, it's pretty good, 15 years. It's very nice of this Commission to recognize. 00:07:16
Very, very nutjob. Thank you. Thank you, Sir. Thank you very much. 00:07:21
I hope, I hope that shows you that. 00:07:28
We really do care about our folks, yes. 00:07:30
Why not? 00:07:36
You gotta you gotta photographer. I guess we do. 00:07:37
Come on down, have a picture. 00:07:40
Sure, please. 00:07:44
Don't get. 00:07:47
Are we good? 00:08:01
Good, good, good to go. 00:08:12
Smile. Geez. 00:08:14
It's a nice photo. That's good. 00:08:16
Thank you. Thank you very much. 00:08:19
Anyway, it's important. 00:08:30
We're very proud to have you on board. 00:08:35
We'll do it later. OK, so the next. 00:08:39
The next event is going to be the presentation by Pattern Energy. 00:09:00
Manager. 00:09:07
Want to introduce them? Bring them up? 00:09:09
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 00:09:12
We went and met with. 00:09:14
Jeremy and fairness team. 00:09:16
And. 00:09:18
They have a presentation for us this morning. 00:09:19
With their operations and status and everything they have going on regarding our wind farms and some built payments and they 00:09:22
prepared this. 00:09:25
I have it right here. 00:09:29
I haven't ready. 00:09:34
There you go. So. 00:09:41
With that, we'll introduce Jeremy Turner. 00:09:44
With pattern energy. 00:09:47
Thanks, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners Manager. 00:09:49
Also with us today is Jeff Levette, number of the folks that work in the county. You know Jeff, he is our construction. 00:09:51
Project Manager. 00:09:58
Poor son Zi yourself. And that's the project that is built here in the county. 00:10:00
Sarah and I were here in December so I don't want to take up. I know you've got a busy agenda. 00:10:04
I'm happy to go through anything that I think I'm skip a few of these slides. 00:10:09
And I think most of you are aware of the pattern he is. 00:10:13
Sorry, used to standing in presentation. 00:10:18
So again, just to remind, the Commission patterns been in the State for a number of years now, since about 2015. 00:10:22
We came into Lincoln County in about 2016 when we started developing projects. 00:10:30
We've got a number of projects in the state. We've got 544 megawatts on the eastern side. 00:10:35
With our Broadview grading projects that came online in 2017 and 2019 and then been operating since that time. 00:10:41
Western Spirit, which is the first project that we did with Lincoln County. 00:10:47
Which is 1050 MW project that is the largest single phase build North American history at that time. 00:10:51
And we followed it up with Sanjay, which is the largest one farm in Western Hemisphere. 00:10:58
I'm along with the 553 mile transmission line that gets that power out of the state. 00:11:03
Again, from these are the pill payments, and these will not change, at least not for the foreseeable future. 00:11:10
Red Cloud wind is part of Western spirit. This is the project that. 00:11:18
Is located that small portion in Lincoln County. 00:11:22
Just shy of 82 megawatts and those are the payments, the pill payments that are associated with it. 00:11:26
The 153,000 in the county in the remaining portion of the Corona schools. 00:11:32
As we've talked before, the law regarding industrial revenue bonds have changed a number of times, so this does get a little 00:11:36
confusing over the. 00:11:40
Over the years, it's kind of changed with how those distributions go and negotiations with the counties. 00:11:45
And the school, there's no longer negotiation with the schools. 00:11:51
They are now set by statute based on the prior amount. 00:11:55
Some Z of wind and this is really what we were hoping to talk with you about. 00:12:00
Let me ask a question before we Yes Sir. 00:12:03
Continue so I'm I'm interested in the. 00:12:06
Payments amount of taxes to the corona schools. 00:12:09
I'm reading what 75,000 and Change. 00:12:13
Yes, Sherman. Sherman. 00:12:16
Over what time period? 00:12:19
Mr. Chairman, those payments are. 00:12:20
Those end up being those are annual payments I believe that are going to between the county and the school districts. 00:12:24
And at that time it was negotiated. 00:12:30
Those are annuals. 00:12:33
OK, you don't see those changing because they're statutorily mandated. 00:12:35
Mr. Chairman, those are based off the amount of the installed megawatts and so those were the agreed upon amounts. 00:12:39
At that time, the statute required a negotiation between the county. 00:12:46
And the public schools. 00:12:49
And an average about 67% to the county and 33% to the school district. 00:12:51
That is, that was in statute and those were the bonds that were issued for the Western Spirit project for Red Cloud Wind. 00:12:56
Under those IRB. 00:13:04
So those amounts should not change. I get it now. So another question if you don't mind. 00:13:05
The seven full time staff. 00:13:11
And then 8 supplemental employees at the. 00:13:13
These are the number of employees that you intend to have. 00:13:17
On staff. 00:13:19
For the foreseeable future. 00:13:21
Mr. Chairman Fisher, that's correct for the Red Cloud. These are. This is specifically for this new wind farm. 00:13:24
On Western Spirit as a whole, it's comprised of those four projects on there, as you can see, finds corners up in green. 00:13:30
The Red Mesa, Tecolote and Red Cloud. 00:13:36
So there are four separate wind farms under the umbrella of Western Spirit. 00:13:39
That causes one of those. Those are the employees that operate REC. 00:13:43
All together we have about 34 full time staff. 00:13:47
Right now we don't have 34 full time staff. That's what we've anticipated would like to have. 00:13:51
What we have right now is about 27 full time staff that operate maintained westerns there. 00:13:57
Including this red card project. 00:14:02
And what? What? 00:14:04
Defines A supplemental employer that's part time. There's a. 00:14:05
So because the way that most of these projects and Sunsia will operate this exact same way. 00:14:09
When we build projects, we have operations and maintenance contracts with the turbine supplier. 00:14:14
In this case, these were GE turbines. On Western spirits, there were 377 GE turbines. 00:14:20
And under that O&M contract, GE for a period of years actually operate and maintain the facility. 00:14:26
So while we say they're patterned employees, for the most part they're GE employees. We do have our full-time patent staff on 00:14:33
board. 00:14:36
From our facilities manager, our assistant facilities manager. 00:14:39
As well as our own technicians that work side by side with GE techs. 00:14:43
And essentially what happens is GE. 00:14:47
Is required to under that service contract to maintain. 00:14:50
So what GE is able to do because they do also have the Aragon Mesa Wind farm which is a. 00:14:54
They are able to use what they. 00:15:00
Called traveling technicians that will float between sites as needed. 00:15:03
To help operate and maintain the facility. 00:15:07
What will happen at the end of the service contract though is pattern goes self perform. 00:15:10
Which will actually on western spirit should be in another 3 1/2 years. 00:15:14
We will go to full self perform. 00:15:20
And most of the time what happens is because the workers have been here working and operating. 00:15:22
They will just transition over from GE right into full-time pattern technicians. 00:15:28
And they will stay with the project. 00:15:32
One of the things that we have had though and struggled with. 00:15:34
Is because we thought and higher GE higher as well as pattern technicians that. 00:15:38
Are not from New Mexico. 00:15:43
They have come in and what we have had is a number of those workers that are accustomed to being. 00:15:45
In a major metropolitan area in 30 minutes. 00:15:50
And they have left. And So what we've had is we have had higher turnover than we would like. 00:15:53
And so one of the things that Sarah and I and a number of other colleagues are working on right now is workforce development with 00:15:58
not only the high schools but the community colleges as well. 00:16:03
We've been working hand in hand with Clovis Community College trying to get them some turban parts. 00:16:08
So that they can train their technicians on sites. 00:16:14
And then Sarah been involved with American Clean Power. 00:16:17
And Clean Power Institute, part of. 00:16:21
Automated training program to try and get technicians certified in a quicker manner. 00:16:23
And we are working through all of that now because where we would like to be is hiring more New Mexicans. We're accustomed. 00:16:28
For for all of you and you know, two hours for us is just around the corner. 00:16:35
For a lot of these folks, two hours is a long drive. 00:16:39
On Western Spirit, we've got four that live in Albuquerque, we've got two that live in Roslyn, we've got one that lives in Clovis. 00:16:42
And so part of this is to try and retain and hire more New Mexicans as these projects continue throughout time. 00:16:50
So that we can have those. 00:16:55
Starting salary for the wind technician. These are students that can go in. 00:16:57
Get their WINS certificate in 18 to 24 months depending on which program they do. 00:17:02
Starting salary is about 59,000. 00:17:06
And then from there it ratches up facilities managers are around 100 and. 00:17:08
All right. So are you working with ENMUR? 00:17:13
We had a number of conversations. 00:17:17
With Ryan and and other folks there, we've tried over the years. 00:17:19
Sarah most recently was part of the conversation with community colleges. 00:17:23
Including. 00:17:28
OK. Thank you. 00:17:31
Yes, Sir. 00:17:33
So, and again, I won't go through all of these details. 00:17:35
When we were here last. 00:17:40
When we talked in December. 00:17:42
We had mentioned at that time that there was a possibility of an upgrade of the GE turbines. 00:17:44
From 3.6 MW machines to the 3.8. 00:17:50
We have made that decision to go ahead and do the upgrade, So what this actually is translating to? 00:17:53
Is for Lincoln County specifically, there's 574 turbines that come in at about 21181 megawatts. 00:18:00
These were authorized under 2 separate industrial revenue bonds. 00:18:07
Mesa canyons, the ones that we did in 2020 were under a prior statute. 00:18:11
Which incorporate which required. 00:18:15
Differences with the schools. 00:18:18
And then the other portion were issued in 2022. 00:18:21
Where you see the difference there In 2020, the county got 67%. 00:18:25
Where the Corona and Carrizo, the schools split their remaining 33%. 00:18:31
Between them. 00:18:35
And there's 904 megawatts on now envisioned in those IRB with this upgrade. 00:18:37
In 2022 IRB Bond. 00:18:43
That were authorized, that was under another statutory chain. 00:18:46
Which requires the school to be paid on the prior years tax rose. 00:18:50
And So what that one does is it actually increased the county portion to 69.36%. 00:18:55
With the all of the school districts in the county. 00:19:02
All the way from Hondo. 00:19:06
Right. You know we'd also captain Arizona Corona. 00:19:08
All of them splitting an equal share of 30.64%. I've got a breakdown on the next page. 00:19:12
That will help with that. 00:19:18
With this upgrade, that now brings the total authorized under those IRB's. 00:19:19
To 1277 megawatts. 00:19:24
Those also, I'll remind the Commission, had an escalator of 2 1/2% every five years. 00:19:27
That also increases, so the numbers that will be reflected on this page. 00:19:32
On the next page, we'll walk through that. 00:19:37
Of this though, you've got the breakdown again. We talked about this in December and I won't take it up your time unless you'd 00:19:40
like me to. 00:19:44
Go through this but what I really wanted to focus on. 00:19:48
Is what the difference is being the word the County Down? I apologize there's a typo. 00:19:51
On your presentation is GE up rate from 3.6. It should have been 3.8 MW machines. 00:19:57
But what this upgrade does? 00:20:03
Is really increased. 00:20:05
The amount over the 30 year period. 00:20:07
To another $6.2 million that is coming into the county in the school district. 00:20:10
The breakdowns here is the. 00:20:15
Commission will recall. 00:20:18
What we? 00:20:20
Because we were not able to finish the project. 00:20:21
Within the time frame allotted, what we, the Commission, had accepted is a catch up payment provision. 00:20:24
Where we make payments, small payments to the county because we were still in construction, start down at 50,000. 00:20:30
100,100 thousand. 00:20:36
But we wanted to make sure that the county was paid for the full 30 years. 00:20:38
And So what we between Pattern and the county we had agreed upon. 00:20:43
Is doing a catch up payment. 00:20:48
So what you will have in 2026 is a fairly large catch up payment. 00:20:49
That will be coming in and then it drops down back to what the county should be seeing normally. 00:20:55
So in 2026, that payment to the county. 00:21:00
Next year will be almost $13 million. 00:21:05
And almost $6 million that will be split up amongst the school districts. 00:21:08
If you go into 2027, those are the amounts that are more representative. 00:21:13
Of what you and your county manager. 00:21:19
And finance professionals can understand is the amount that will. 00:21:22
And we'll be sharing everything. 00:21:27
Of course with the manager on these details. 00:21:29
Down below though, these numbers have been updated and reflected. You can see on the right hand side the percentages based on the 00:21:32
differences with the. 00:21:36
All of the. 00:21:39
Iron Beach statutory changes. 00:21:42
But down below is what we really wanted to focus on and this was. 00:21:44
When we run this out through 2052, it just gets a little unwieldy. 00:21:48
So we for purposes of here, we wanted to roll it down into five year increments so that you can understand. 00:21:51
Exactly what the county will be getting. 00:21:58
But again, those numbers up in 2027 are pretty representative of what you can under expect every year. 00:22:00
And also we'll include, you know, that 2 1/2% escalator every five years on the 2022 item. 00:22:07
So. So if you don't want a Commission, so I've got. 00:22:14
Questions So so the political climate supporting. 00:22:19
Quote UN quote, green energy appears to be changing. Not to use a bad metaphor, but the winds are shifting a bit. 00:22:25
Based on. 00:22:33
Then more clear understanding of what the cost benefit ratios are. 00:22:34
And in addition to that, some realities with respect to. 00:22:40
With the financial? 00:22:45
Climate here in. 00:22:47
Fiscally and the federal government. 00:22:48
What impact? 00:22:52
Anticipated. Or maybe you're just ignoring it. Or maybe you'd see none. 00:22:56
In terms of. 00:23:00
Lots of subsidies. 00:23:01
Tax breaks etc. 00:23:06
What would that? 00:23:08
What would that impact possibly be on these pills? 00:23:09
Projections that you have. 00:23:12
Mr. Chairman and Commissioners appreciate the question that will actually what's happening in the federal level. 00:23:14
And the changes that are being talked about why have absolutely no impact on the pill payments coming in? 00:23:20
These projects are already pre qualified because they were started under the prior administration and the prior laws. 00:23:25
And so they're actually grandfathered in under the tax credit scenario. 00:23:31
What we have seen is some of the tariffs have increased, some of the components that are still coming in. 00:23:34
But we had already envisioned. 00:23:40
Potential changes to vote. 00:23:42
So in each of our contracts predominantly on steel and one of the big ones. 00:23:43
We have factored in for the account if there are changes and fluctuations in there. 00:23:48
Where and we negotiated those with those manufacturers. 00:23:53
Where we would pick up a portion of the cost and they would. 00:23:56
The others. 00:23:59
In certain instances, in other instances because we lost in. 00:24:00
Because on the main power Transformers, our contracts require because the lead times about 20-4 months. 00:24:04
When we locked in those contracts, we had already. 00:24:10
Lock in pricing on that contract. So they actually have no impact on those. 00:24:13
So the other thing that I would mention is. 00:24:18
Even though there are things happening at the federal level. 00:24:21
80% of the Western United States is now aligned on the decarbonization goals, meaning that each of those states. 00:24:24
Have passed laws mandating utilities. 00:24:31
To be at certain percentages of renewable energy and by certain set periods of time. 00:24:34
What that requires is 9 gigawatts of new deal just to mean. 00:24:39
Current. 00:24:43
In a nine gigawatts of new build from 2026 through 2035. 00:24:44
In order to meet those demands. 00:24:49
And so regardless. 00:24:51
Of what's taking place at the current potential changes at the federal level. 00:24:53
What we're actually still looking at is that longer term horizon. 00:24:58
And we are still seeing extremely strong demand for this product in particular. 00:25:02
We have now contracted out around 57%. 00:25:07
Of Sanjay and that was intentional. We've been holding on some of that. 00:25:10
Because what we've still seen is the price increase on those power purchase agreements. 00:25:14
Over the last 2 1/2 years. 00:25:19
And so because those are utilities, particularly in the Western US. 00:25:21
Are still trying to meet those renewable portfolio standards as mandated by their state legislature. 00:25:26
And so in this case. 00:25:31
In particular and. 00:25:32
Changes at the federal level will have impacts on future projects. 00:25:35
But as far as Lincoln County is concerned? 00:25:38
And western spirit and Sun Zia. 00:25:42
You don't envision the changes having any impact on these amounts that you're seeing here. I don't share that confidence, but 00:25:44
that's that's fine. 00:25:48
Of water consumption is an extraordinarily important. 00:25:52
Topic for this county in the region. 00:25:56
As you may or may not, I'm sure you're aware of what's going on. What happened in Capitan? 00:26:00
And and and I would ask where where are you getting? 00:26:09
In lieu of Capitan. 00:26:12
So Miss Sherman, commissioners appreciate the question and we are aware we've been monitoring that. 00:26:14
So we started. 00:26:19
About what we started about 3 1/2 years ago. 00:26:21
When John Dantonio and I've worked a lot with John D'antonio, former New Mexico State engineer. 00:26:26
John and I have done a lot of work when I sat on the Water Trust board. 00:26:32
A number of years ago we actually retained John when he left and was became a consultant. 00:26:36
And we mapped out every well capable of producing 40 gallons a minute. 00:26:41
And this is on the entire project, including the transmission line all the way from Pinal Central and Arizona. 00:26:46
All the way into New Mexico, including within 30 mile radius because they have to do, you know, being within that basin. 00:26:52
We can't transfer across basins. 00:26:59
So we mapped out what John and I and then another colleague every water well. 00:27:01
Within 30 mile radius, and the goal was to minimize water hauling to no more than 30 miles. 00:27:06
With the and we were able to do that with purchasing water. 00:27:12
From Compound we purchased from a number of private sources as well. 00:27:16
With the water usage. 00:27:20
And you all know. 00:27:22
Waterloo. Certainly better than I do. 00:27:24
But. 00:27:27
Average for an acre of alfalfa. We all listen. 2 1/2 acres feet of. 00:27:28
Water here. 00:27:33
For total water usage. 00:27:34
What you can do are the beneficial or consumptive use is 1.2 acre feet. 00:27:36
The rest is assumed to be a direct recharge to the aquifer. 00:27:41
So when we lease water rights, particularly for a private well or transfer those in. 00:27:45
What we have to do is we have to lease the entire kind of half atrophy. 00:27:51
Even though we're actually only using 1.2 acre. 00:27:56
So in the case of a farmer. 00:27:58
If we are leasing and we have from a number of farmers. 00:28:01
They've agreed to follow field. 00:28:04
And what it actually is that we're using roughly half of what that farmer would traditionally pump out in the ground and use. 00:28:06
For that. 00:28:12
Assuming that some of that is a direct recharge back in the ground. 00:28:13
So on the entire project. 00:28:17
We utilize about 2500 acre feet of water. 00:28:20
Over a three-year period that includes the transmission line. 00:28:24
All the way into Arizona. 00:28:28
And So what we had done. 00:28:31
Is we'd identify those water rights. 00:28:34
Throughout that project. 00:28:37
Over the transmission line pattern took that on, we leased adequate water rights. 00:28:39
And transferred those in. 00:28:44
When we did transfers. 00:28:46
For the transmission line. 00:28:48
A number of the water rights actually were for PM. 00:28:50
Where we are using water there around the Los Lunas and Berlin. 00:28:53
There is also down in dimming. We get water from there. 00:28:57
In TRC, there's a private land owners that have agreed to sell water. In Arizona it's the same. 00:29:00
Those are from predominantly private branches. 00:29:05
In New Mexico for the wind farm, the agreement with our contract with Platinum that they actually identified their own water 00:29:08
sources. 00:29:11
And prepared those, they're utilizing water. 00:29:15
In the Corona area from 4:00, private land owners. 00:29:19
That they have actually leased water. 00:29:23
From and we're purchasing water from. 00:29:25
And also purchased water from captain as you know up until recently. 00:29:27
That is no longer the case and so they are identifying private sources. 00:29:31
Just the old truck that water in the utilized. 00:29:36
Thank you for that. 00:29:40
Clearly an awful lot of water is needed for this project. 00:29:43
Do you, do you see that consumption going down as you? 00:29:47
Complete the construction. 00:29:50
Absolutely, Mr. Chairman, Commissioner, appreciate the question. 00:29:53
Yes, and we did visit with the village Captain Blattner as well as Pattern. 00:29:56
What we are interested in is by about September the heavy. 00:30:01
Having civil work and Jeff can certainly. 00:30:05
Address this in a moment. 00:30:08
But the heavy civil work will be predominantly done. 00:30:10
That's the road to the new roads that are being put in the collection lines. 00:30:13
So a lot of that water consumption we do expect is going to be using quite a bit through September. 00:30:18
And then we do expect it to trail off. 00:30:23
Once the project is complete. 00:30:25
We have this four operations and maintenance facilities, each using less than one acre foot a year, which is about an average 00:30:27
home. 00:30:31
And each of those will drop down. So yes, we are using a lot of water during construction. 00:30:36
And but during that construction period is when that water usage is. 00:30:42
Once the project is done though. 00:30:46
We don't anticipate using more than four acre feet a year. 00:30:49
And when is that? 00:30:52
Imperial construction on the and we'll touch on this in just a moment. 00:30:53
On the transmission line is actually wrapping up here in July on the HVDC station. 00:30:57
Will be wrapped up here in September. 00:31:02
And then on the wind farm, we'll be photographed up in April. 00:31:05
Of next year. 00:31:08
So after April, you anticipate being way down? 00:31:09
We anticipate using no more than 40. 00:31:12
I don't know if this is a good time you want to continue. I have some other questions, but but let's let's go through, maybe 00:31:17
you'll answer them. 00:31:21
OK. And if you don't, I'm sure that. 00:31:26
Some of us will have some more questions. Thank you. 00:31:29
So again, I'm not going to go through this other than just to state again that we are on some of the transmission. 00:31:33
We are actually at this point in time. 00:31:41
Pretty much. 00:31:44
With the all of the structures are in, we've actually started most of the reclamation work. 00:31:46
On the project and we are expecting to be done here in July. 00:31:52
There is still a little bit of straining activity that I'll touch on on the next slide. 00:31:57
But for the most part, the 553 miles. 00:32:01
Of a project that has been in the works since 2006 is almost complete. 00:32:05
So I guess if you wanted to, maybe. 00:32:10
Do you want to jump up here and join me or Sarah? 00:32:13
So moving on and hopefully this will address a little bit more of the questions. 00:32:16
And I'll work through these fairly quickly again, Jeff. 00:32:21
Jeff Overseas Construction, he is construction project manager for South, so if you have his Lincoln County. 00:32:26
So if you have specific questions you have can certainly answer. 00:32:32
But at a high level. 00:32:35
Our number of workers were already seeing drop down. 00:32:37
We did get over 2500 workers. We are not quite at that now. 00:32:40
The east the high voltage DC converter station, which is that portion that's just north of Corona. 00:32:45
Right now is we've got about 250 workers on site 246. 00:32:51
As a Friday. 00:32:56
Valve halls 1 and 2 are about 92% complete. We've started receiving the valves. 00:32:58
These are the components that convert the energy from AC to DC and then saying that 553 miles. 00:33:03
There's an exact facility on the other end that looks very similar. 00:33:10
Convert it back to AC before it goes on the grid. 00:33:14
We have started handling those valves. 00:33:17
They are £55,000 V change from the ceiling. 00:33:20
We have a total of 12 of those in those facilities. 00:33:23
And we are. And once you look at the overall facility, we're about 70% complete. 00:33:26
We envision and the West is very similar as you can see here. 00:33:31
It's on the same time frame. That is the portion that's an all central just South of Phoenix. 00:33:35
And it is on a similar time frame. What we envision is both. 00:33:41
HBDC stations being complete by September. 00:33:45
They this is not like an AC system where. 00:33:48
We could. We could build an AC system now. 00:33:51
And, umm. 00:33:56
Pretty much flip the switch and have a Commission in a couple days. 00:33:57
DC is much, much more complicated. There's a lot different voltage issues that we have to deal with. 00:34:00
So what we're envisioning is about a whole month of commissioning and this is from Hitachi, who's the. 00:34:07
Time contractor and the manufacturer for the HBDC facility itself. 00:34:12
They're figuring at least a month to Commission. 00:34:16
So what we will do is we will finish in September when we have a Commission in October. 00:34:19
With the ability to start sending test power. 00:34:24
Down the wires at that point in time. 00:34:27
We've already touched on transmission line. You can see we're down. 00:34:31
We were at one time nearly 500. 00:34:34
Workers on site were about 287 now. 00:34:37
Again. 00:34:40
Straightening activities 91% complete. 00:34:41
It will be done here in July and then the only thing remaining. 00:34:44
Most of the reclamation is already done as well. 00:34:48
But there will be some that probably carries on a little past July, but for all intensive purposes. 00:34:51
Suddenly, a transmission will be complete here in July. 00:34:56
And then what we do was the HPDC station comes online in October. 00:35:00
Will Commission one point because it's two poles, because it's a DC. 00:35:05
Will Commission 1 poll to make sure that it's capable of handling 1500 bedwas without any issues. 00:35:09
Well then, bring on pole 2. 00:35:14
Same thing, make sure it's capable of handling all 15171 for a total of 3000 megawatts transfer capacity. 00:35:16
The overbuild on this project, as you know is 3650 megawatts is the total wind energy. 00:35:24
Generation and why that is, and Mr. Chairman, you. 00:35:30
You've talked about it in previous information meetings. 00:35:34
Is the wind is blowing? 00:35:37
Roughly 45% of the time. 00:35:39
And So what we were able to do when we do that over built even though the lines at 3000 megawatts. 00:35:41
We're putting 36150. 00:35:46
Is we know. 00:35:49
A good portion of the time that it will not generate. 00:35:50
The full 36150 megawatts. 00:35:53
So by doing that over build, what we're doing is maximizing utilization of the transmission line. 00:35:56
For when the wind is blowing, even if it's at lower wind speeds. 00:36:01
With that over, Bill were able to maximize usage. 00:36:05
Of that line. 00:36:08
And so that's. 00:36:09
Again, that will be taking place. We're nearly done there. 00:36:11
And then we get into the wind Sunday, wind north, and we talked about it in previous meetings. 00:36:14
There is a northern portion of the project which encompasses of roughly a third of those megawatts. 00:36:19
And then there is a self that is entirely based on agreements with Department of Defense. 00:36:24
Where we have signed mitigation agreements where we will do a multi year process. 00:36:30
With DoD as well as NORAD. 00:36:34
On the area that defined buildable area where we can place turbines. 00:36:38
That don't impact. 00:36:43
In a negative way. Military. 00:36:44
So that is why it's split. There's a nine nautical mile stretch in between. 00:36:47
Where most of your F18 pilots are trained. 00:36:52
And so. 00:36:55
Sunday wind north. 00:36:56
We've got over 500 workers on site. 00:36:58
Starting and growing activities are done because it is smaller. We've already got 100% of the foundations are already installed. 00:37:01
And we are now we've started receiving in March. 00:37:08
The best disturbance that are going up there, we now have 9 best disturbance standing. 00:37:13
These are bigger. Those are 4.5 MW machines, so they are bigger than what we're using in the South. 00:37:18
The reason for the difference was multifaceted. 00:37:24
Number one, the wind conditions are different. 00:37:27
So that machine fit better up there. 00:37:30
The other big component though, Mr. you kind of touched on it from a supply constraint, is we didn't want to be beholden to a 00:37:32
single turbine manufacturer. 00:37:36
They also couldn't meet our delivery schedule. There was number. 00:37:41
Single manufacturer that should. 00:37:45
Delivered 11:50 turbines a week. 00:37:47
So we ended up splitting it out. 00:37:49
And that's what Vestas has been able to do is deliver that amount. 00:37:52
As I said, we've got a number of terms on the ground. If you drive up there, you'll see them all on the side. 00:37:56
But that one. 00:38:02
We because we have 100% of the foundation pours already complete. 00:38:04
Front project is moving. 00:38:08
Fairly rapidly. 00:38:10
So, so let's let's let's move on just a little bit. 00:38:11
So. 00:38:15
I think I heard you say. 00:38:16
Correct me if I'm wrong please. 00:38:18
That you're anticipating the entire. 00:38:20
Build out to be completed by July of next year. 00:38:22
Mr. Chairman, the full wind farm Wash, would be done by the end of April. 00:38:26
So everything will be done. 00:38:31
So if I let your. 00:38:33
Your AC to DC. 00:38:35
That'll be done by July of this year. 00:38:37
So what will happen next year? And that's in Sunday. It went South. And Justin touch on this. 00:38:42
There will still be components. There will still be turbines being stood up. 00:38:47
Here in Lincoln County, that stretch into early next year as well as reclamation activity. 00:38:51
Would you have to clear anything you wanted to touch on that? Yeah, I can provide a little bit more detail just on the schedule 00:38:57
and how it ties into the water consumption, which I think is the main concern. 00:39:02
Apologize if I'm not the. 00:39:06
Entirely on the formalities that nor this, but like. 00:39:08
So our. 00:39:11
Jacqueline Vet. 00:39:13
So, civil construction activity. 00:39:15
Is well underway. We're going to be completing our road construction. 00:39:17
Within the next 4 weeks. 00:39:22
And wind turbine foundation construction. 00:39:24
Is also now down into almost completely in zone 7. 00:39:27
So we're expecting Foundation construction to wrap up sometime around Labor Day. 00:39:30
And it's the road construction and the foundation construction are a couple of our heavier water users. 00:39:35
We need the water for the concrete and the foundations, as well As for dust control with concrete trucks, things like that. 00:39:42
So the the Heavy Civil will wrap up. 00:39:48
Towards the end of the summer. 00:39:51
The turbine deliveries and turbine erection. 00:39:52
Will continue through until April of next year, which is what Jeremy is referring to. 00:39:55
We have about 180 turbines erected, 80 of those in the North End of Lincoln County. 00:40:00
And that work will continue through the So yeah, we. 00:40:06
With that, good. 00:40:10
Idea of what the water situation is going to be. So let's go, let's move ahead in April. 00:40:12
You're you're going to be at. 00:40:18
What about the homeostasis? 00:40:20
Situation. In other words, you've got. 00:40:22
Your maintenance personnel required to be there. 00:40:24
There's going to be housing. 00:40:27
That's that's an issue you probably are going to have. 00:40:29
You're going to have some needs with with respect to the. 00:40:33
The public schools. 00:40:36
In those areas. 00:40:37
I'm talking about. 00:40:39
Corona. 00:40:41
And then? 00:40:43
You know, because of the increase in population. 00:40:46
Density. 00:40:49
There's going to be cries. 00:40:50
For increased law enforcement presence. 00:40:52
And capability in that area. 00:40:56
What? What? 00:40:58
This Commission is interested in others trying to understand it. How are those? 00:40:59
How are those changes, what are those changes going to ultimately be? I mean, we're in an interim period. 00:41:05
Right, we know it's. 00:41:10
Flexing requirements or change in the temporary, but there's going to be a more permanent requirement. 00:41:12
But the county will have to bear. 00:41:18
In order to protect and serve the citizens in the northern part of the county. 00:41:22
So the question I have for you is this. 00:41:26
How many? 00:41:29
People. 00:41:31
Families, do you anticipate? 00:41:32
Being here after April 2026. 00:41:34
And where? 00:41:37
Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Commissioners. 00:41:39
We do. Once April is done and the construction workers have moved on, we will move into that full operation and maintenance staff. 00:41:42
What we're envisioning is. 00:41:48
Up to 70, we don't, we're not going to start there. 00:41:51
Which he will think we're going to be around 40 full time. 00:41:53
Individuals to start on the project. 00:41:57
It can rent all the way up to as high as 70. 00:42:00
We would like them to be located near our operation and maintenance facility. 00:42:02
Which are major O&M facility for the South is actually about 25 miles outside of Captain. 00:42:07
I thank you and the commissioners are well aware we've been in conversation with the village. 00:42:13
It has become apparent with the water issues what we were working on. We had placed an offer. 00:42:18
On a 285 acre piece of land where we were looking to build permanent workforce housing. 00:42:23
Which we are anticipating to your one of your question. 00:42:28
About a 6040 splint. About 60% of those will be families. 00:42:31
And about 40% will be single individuals. These are as I mentioned earlier. 00:42:36
These are individuals. A lot of these are younger than. 00:42:40
Graduate high school and be making $60,000 and. 00:42:44
In only two years. 00:42:47
So it's a good. 00:42:49
To get career choice for a number of young students. 00:42:50
And So what we envision is that 6040 split. 00:42:54
Initially to start with around 40 individuals. 00:42:57
Supporting family. 00:43:00
Total or 40 total people so. 00:43:02
From that you can assume you know maybe 26 will have families and family. 00:43:04
So are you still pursuing that? 00:43:10
Let's call it an option there in north of Capitan is you saying no, you're not doing as of today, we are getting a letter outside 00:43:12
my letter authorized signatories withdrawing that application. 00:43:17
And so we and we are walking away from it. 00:43:23
It's become apparent that from the community feedback that that is not of an interest to them. 00:43:26
So what we are doing is now looking at alternatives. 00:43:31
There are housing options there though for our individuals, if they want to purchase and live there or if they wanted to live in 00:43:35
Red House on Drive, they can certainly do that. 00:43:39
Part of the ultimate goal for the potential for a housing development. 00:43:44
Was from a quality of life of our workers and they're not spending so much time on the road. 00:43:48
As I mentioned earlier, we've got a couple, we've got a number that drive over 2 hours one way. 00:43:53
I think we understand that. 00:44:00
That that dynamic and that need. 00:44:02
You know, families, young work. 00:44:04
But but now OK, so. 00:44:07
So that's off the table. 00:44:09
What's what's on the table? 00:44:11
Mr. Chairman and Commissioners were evaluating what those other we don't. 00:44:14
We are still working through that. This has been evolving over the last couple weeks. 00:44:18
And really the feedback from the community and the number of meetings that have been had. 00:44:23
So we are now hitting reset and evaluating what our options is. 00:44:27
So so. 00:44:32
Khurana might be part of that. 00:44:33
Next plan or not? 00:44:35
No, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, again, if one of our individuals wants to live in Corona, they are certainly welcome to do that. 00:44:36
But the major O&M for the South will be just outside of Captain about. 00:44:41
25 minutes out. 00:44:47
And so the reality is, is I think folks living in Corona and driving down is probably not likely. I think they will probably 00:44:49
pursue housing options. 00:44:52
In that cabinet area, possibly Carrizozo or or you know so. 00:44:57
And in the north are major O&M is right there at Kleins Corners, just South of Kleins Corners truck stop. 00:45:01
So what we envision there is investors is only assuming 30 full time workers. 00:45:08
Up in the north. 00:45:13
And between bestest and pattern, we're assuming 30 in the North. 00:45:15
And so there they will either be looking at Moriarty, Edgewood or Santa Rosa. 00:45:18
We don't have the same issue there. 00:45:24
With the lack of housing. 00:45:26
Commission, you have any any questions, other questions? 00:45:32
Continue, Sir. 00:45:37
Initially, absolutely. 00:45:39
So I think that's a good portion. You can see here on the South. 00:45:41
Where as Jeff said, we are about 3/4 of the way through with all our foundation floors. 00:45:45
Which brings us to probably 60% complaint on the overall project. 00:45:51
Again, as we talked today, most of this heavy civil work. 00:45:54
Will be trailing off by September. 00:45:59
And then it's really getting the, it's finishing things. 00:46:01
And it's pulling all that topsoil back over where? Because the way that this works is when we build roads. 00:46:05
Or putting collection lines or foundations, we draw all the topsoil backs. 00:46:11
And then what we do at the end of that? 00:46:17
Infrastructures in we pull all that topsoil back. 00:46:20
Of where it's needed, with the exception of about 16 foot on the roads up to 20. 00:46:24
In certain instances A2 track around urban. 00:46:29
And then we'll bring all that topsoil back and we'll start that reclamation effort. 00:46:32
And that, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 00:46:37
Beyond this is just a couple pictures. 00:46:40
That, you know, we don't need to go through, we have to answer questions. 00:46:42
And address anything else. 00:46:46
Can you touch on what we just go through running roof? 00:46:50
Absolutely. 00:46:53
And again, we appreciate that your county manager coming and meeting with us. 00:46:54
The roads and we understand have been an issue and I think Jeff can certainly touch on us. 00:46:59
As well as Mr. 00:47:04
We did have a meeting with Mr. Hanukkah and his staff. 00:47:06
On this and between Blackner, who is our prime contractor on addressing the road. 00:47:12
And we are doing our best to work on those as we finish up. 00:47:17
Though there's having civil work and things start to travel off, we do expect to be able to get everything up as the road use 00:47:21
agreement requires. 00:47:25
We are mandated under that agreement to bring those roads up to. 00:47:30
The same or better condition when we are fully done. 00:47:34
Which we're working on and Jeff can certainly touch on or Mr. Honeycutt as well, Mr. Chair. 00:47:38
Do you want to say anything on Rd. 00:47:44
Just, you know, we continue to coordinate with Mr. Hunnicutt regularly. I have members of my team that reach in. 00:47:47
At least weekly, just to make sure that we are aligned. 00:47:54
We we tend to address any concerns. It's been an ongoing issue and it's something that's brought up. 00:47:57
Regularly. 00:48:02
So we would like to see something more than. 00:48:04
Coordination. 00:48:06
Action. 00:48:09
I want it to be better. 00:48:11
For those people in the world. 00:48:13
Well, that's it. I want to thank you. 00:48:16
For the presentation, some hard questions but necessary questions. 00:48:19
And. 00:48:24
The water continues to be an issue for all of us and we're focused on it. 00:48:25
One we can talk more. 00:48:30
Thank you. 00:48:33
Thank you. 00:48:34
And, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, the thing I'd like to end with. 00:48:35
The HVDC station that is going in, we would love to host you if anybody would like to see it, there are things there. 00:48:39
Like we talked about in December, they're serial number one on the planet. Nobody's ever done. 00:48:46
It is a unique facility once it is. 00:48:51
Operational, so we can still get in there. 00:48:55
Throughout July 1st. 00:48:57
But then it is positive pressure. It's a full clean room. 00:48:59
And once we energize, nobody will ever go in or out. So if anybody would like to go out and take a tour. 00:49:03
We would not. 00:49:10
To do that, welcome you between now and the month of June. 00:49:12
Please reach out, let me know and I would love to host the Commission else. 00:49:15
I'm sure there'll be a number of. 00:49:20
They're there for the questions. Mr. Chairman, I have a quick question. 00:49:23
We've talked quite a bit and I've heard a lot of your presentations and thank you guys for coming out here and visiting once 00:49:27
again. But there's been a lot of talk about 2026 and that payment and little taxes. 00:49:32
To that $12.8 million, do you have an extended timeline for Windy County? They receive them? 00:49:39
Mr. Chairman, Commissioner, appreciate the question, absolutely. So the agreement and the. 00:49:45
There's different payment terms in there, but in general. 00:49:50
The what it requires is a notice 30 days in advance, a certificate to the county Commission. 00:49:53
Of what the installed megawatts are. 00:49:59
And then it requires a payment by January 2nd. 00:50:02
And so by the 1st of. 00:50:05
2026 you should have that payment in hand. 00:50:07
What we have talked internally in the great Iran is even though we don't have all of the turbines up and standing. 00:50:10
We've already that money is already set aside. 00:50:16
And what we'll be doing with paying the county for everything that's already planned in the county. 00:50:19
So you're going to send in it, you'll have a 30 day. 00:50:23
This time in December, yes, what we do is we are required under the agreement send the certificate, which we will be happy to do, 00:50:28
we always do. 00:50:31
And then we'll be sending that payment bill before that 30 days. 00:50:35
Thank you, Sir. 00:50:39
Thank you. 00:50:42
Yeah, I'll just, I'll just have a quick comment. 00:50:43
It's truly amazing for who? 00:50:46
I'd like to take part of you. 00:50:48
The Crone area kept carrying up quickly. 00:50:50
Things are moving and how much things are changing. 00:50:52
I just like to recognize the responsibilities the county is going to have in this going forward. 00:50:55
Especially in in terms of the short period. 00:50:59
Nearly 2200 workers on this project. 00:51:02
Carries responsibility for Emergency Management. 00:51:07
Services and law enforcement presence. 00:51:09
We've heard a number of. 00:51:12
Constituents, there's concerns up there. 00:51:14
And it's not something we have answered. 00:51:16
For right now, but I just want to recognize the county's responsibilities. 00:51:18
We hold that very seriously. 00:51:23
Anything else? 00:51:26
I'd just like to make a comment. I'm disappointed to hear that you'll withdrew your application. 00:51:29
Because I do believe that. 00:51:34
Private investment is an opportunity to build out our infrastructure. 00:51:37
And what you are doing is needed to. 00:51:41
Diverse fire economy. 00:51:44
It's clear that tourism. 00:51:45
Is not a sustainable. 00:51:47
Part of our economy that we need to use our diversifying. 00:51:49
And I'm really disappointed to see that you all are leaving this opportunity. 00:51:53
As future budgets can be in jeopardy with tourism. 00:51:59
With our wildfires and floods and we can look to government alone to carry us forward. 00:52:03
Hasn't been working for New Mexico this far. 00:52:09
And you all taking this up to another family is very disappointing. 00:52:11
And anything less than you know allowing growth and. 00:52:15
US choosing to remain stagnant as a disservice to every resident that lives in Lincoln County. 00:52:19
Thanks, Mr. Sherman, Commissioner, and again it was. 00:52:25
It was based on feedback. 00:52:28
That we received that, there was a lack of desire for that and what we were requesting was an annexation of that property in the 00:52:30
village. 00:52:33
Leonard and what we. 00:52:37
What would convey to us is that it was not going to be improved and and unsuccessful, which requires us to evaluate other option. 00:52:40
We are here, though, for the long term, as we've talked before. 00:52:47
Pattern is not. 00:52:50
We are not a developer that comes in flips projects. We are long term developers, owners, operators. 00:52:51
We envision being in the. 00:52:56
Lincoln County for at least 50 years, if not longer. 00:52:58
We will continue to make investments at our. 00:53:01
Workers and workforce do move in. 00:53:03
To the areas by homes, they will be paying taxes, they'll be contributing to Lincoln County. 00:53:06
Their kids will go to school here, they'll graduate just like I did from this county. 00:53:11
And and it we are looking. 00:53:15
For them to be long term members and fabrics part of the fabric of. 00:53:18
Of the community. 00:53:22
And live here, and that was part of why we were doing that. 00:53:23
But without the annexation, that was infeasible. 00:53:26
The concerns around water and so now we're having to step back and raise those opportunities will be. 00:53:29
We'd still envision that they will live in Lincoln County. 00:53:34
But it just won't be under that housing account. 00:53:38
Right. And I appreciate that. And maybe we need to find a more sustainable location if water is. 00:53:40
Truly the issue. I haven't seen any data to support that yet. 00:53:46
But maybe looking outside of Carrizo though I know NIMBY is a much heavy and Lincoln County. 00:53:49
Has several failed workforce housing projects. 00:53:55
But we do hope that. 00:54:00
Continue to help us with this issue. 00:54:01
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, very much for your time. 00:54:06
You know county manager. 00:54:10
We we are happy to be here as much. 00:54:13
Or you would like? 00:54:15
We'll always have to come get updates, but again, what we would really love to do. 00:54:17
Is if you're up and sometimes we're going to be working with the manager to come out on the tour. 00:54:21
And then we'd love to host you sometime this month as well. 00:54:27
After this month, things change. In July, it's going to be a lot harder to get into that facility. So if there's an opportunity, 00:54:31
please let us know and I'll. 00:54:34
Working coordinate with you. 00:54:38
We'll do that. 00:54:40
Thank you very much. We appreciate it so. 00:54:42
What I'd like to do, Mr. Manager, is go ahead. 00:54:46
To section 6. 00:54:49
One and two. 00:54:51
I'd like to have these reports done now. 00:54:52
Because some of the other. 00:54:56
So if, if I may, could we have the Lincoln County Detention Center reports? 00:55:02
Not here, but it's not a great representative. 00:55:09
Good morning. Please come come to the table. 00:55:12
I am deputy Warden. 00:55:31
Pony help and so I'm here to. 00:55:33
Represents detention center. I'm warden. Councilman was not able to make it today. 00:55:36
So our average bed camp currently is at 63. 00:55:43
Intakes for the month of May was 114. 00:55:48
We are currently down five officers. 00:55:52
And 2000. 00:55:56
But we have committed interviews and submitted background checks, so we're just sending. 00:55:57
We are also working on. 00:56:02
Doing another onboarding, another nurse. 00:56:04
Our water softener has just been returned. 00:56:09
And we have been starting the boiler for the kitchen. 00:56:11
We found out our funding for the rights program. 00:56:14
Did not get renewed as as of July 1st. 00:56:18
So it will no longer have their eyes program. 00:56:21
The warden has converted a directional officer position. 00:56:26
Into a case manager position. 00:56:29
And this way we can continue to Brexit. 00:56:32
For like functions. 00:56:34
The warden Wilson had proposal to rise July 1st. 00:56:38
Requesting A supplemental program. 00:56:42
Stand for questions. 00:56:46
What was the amount lost? 00:56:48
With not receiving the rise. 00:56:49
I I don't know the actual. 00:56:53
20 minutes, but my understanding is there were several counties. 00:56:55
Who did not get? 00:56:59
I couldn't tell you which ones. 00:57:01
I know Eddie County was a benefit as well. 00:57:05
Do you have any solitaire? Do we have any idea what that amount might be or? 00:57:12
Yeah, commissioners train you, just not Chief Deputy Treasurer. So reflecting last year so we can get a full year picture. 00:57:18
323,000. 00:57:25
Is what the Rights Program brought in for 2324. 00:57:28
How many inmates that we served last year? 00:57:32
With that program. 00:57:35
I couldn't tell you exactly. 00:57:37
I'd like to know. 00:57:39
You know, before we. 00:57:42
We pursue. 00:57:43
With. 00:57:44
Getting more funds. 00:57:46
Supporting more funds? We'd like to know. 00:57:48
What the impact was like? How many will serve? 00:57:51
Do we have any idea of what the citizen is? 00:57:54
With those those inmates with it. 00:57:57
Went through the program. 00:57:59
So you might, you might shut that down and. 00:58:01
Ross can come back next month. 00:58:03
Any other questions? 00:58:05
Thank you so much. 00:58:08
Benton County Medical Center. Mr. Chairman, I apologize. Todd called me last night and told me he had another conflicting. 00:58:12
So we'll get him on a presentation on that. 00:58:19
North floor service is that. 00:58:25
Everything here I don't see it. 00:58:26
I did not know that they were invited. 00:58:31
This is particularly important with our. 00:58:35
One of the things that we're going to talk about later, that they should be here. 00:58:40
Mexico State University Extension Service. 00:58:45
Really wonderful. Fantastic. 00:58:48
One that keeps us fed, that. 00:58:51
Chairman, Fisher, Commissioners, Melody Gaines, Lincoln County Extension Summit. 00:58:57
Through science and for Jacobs. 00:59:02
This last week we had our animal. 00:59:04
Tag in days for the County Fair animals we have. 00:59:06
50 pigs, 60 lambs and 70 goats. 00:59:10
They were tagged last week. 00:59:13
Last week, Lincoln County hosted the Southwest Livestock School. 00:59:15
90 kids from across the state attended along with their parents and 4H agents. 00:59:19
And that was held. 00:59:23
Well attended 3 days last week it was. 00:59:26
It was a lot of fun to be there with our office. Did 2 meals for them. There's 160 participants. 00:59:29
90 kids. 00:59:36
And eleven of those kids were from right here in Lincoln County. 00:59:37
It was nice to see those little young faces out there. 00:59:41
Livestock school gives. 00:59:44
Kids that it gives them a solid opportunity to. 00:59:46
Learn how to. 00:59:51
Raising to feed their animal. 00:59:52
And it's not just the kid, but also the parents. 00:59:54
A lot more confidence in. 00:59:57
In the film program, sometimes it can be. 00:59:59
A little rough when you. 01:00:02
When you ask a person who's. 01:00:04
Been in a show program or show business a long time? 01:00:06
A lot of times. 01:00:09
You, you just need to have hands on and be there and and learn how to do it and. 01:00:11
We were thrilled that so many parents. 01:00:16
For their with their children. 01:00:19
Because it takes a family. 01:00:20
His brother today's 11. 01:00:22
It was a very nice event. So that was the Southwest Blackstock School. 01:00:24
And. 01:00:29
Upcoming events we have. 01:00:32
A jackpot that's going to happen this weekend. 01:00:33
Utilizing photographs again and it'll be kids from all over the state brings. 01:00:36
They're so animals. 01:00:41
They will probably be able. 01:00:43
We had lots of comments last week. 01:00:46
About our facility again, I mean, I can't stress to you all enough. 01:00:48
How wonderful those facilities are and how impressive they are. 01:00:53
To everybody across the state when they come. 01:00:56
And we're, we're just thrilled to have that. 01:00:59
Next week we have 25 kids from Lincoln County going to our district contest. 01:01:03
District contests are. 01:01:08
Held this year in curriculum. We're in a 13 district. 01:01:10
Huntington County District. 01:01:13
Each year we take turns. 01:01:14
Being a host, Lincoln County will be the host in two years. 01:01:16
But. 01:01:19
Each county takes a turn and then all our little kids just go to those different areas and. 01:01:20
They get to meet those kids from all those different. 01:01:25
Counties that they will essentially grow up with and essentially go to college with. 01:01:28
If they stay as safe and sometimes even if. 01:01:33
But it's a it's a good opportunity for those kids. 01:01:36
To meet. 01:01:39
We got Clover by Day coming up on June 26th. That's for. 01:01:41
Youngest 4 agers ages 5 to 9. 01:01:46
We'll have that all sort of paragraphs. 01:01:48
State 4H conference for our oldest kids ages. 01:01:52
13 to 19 July 17 two. 01:01:55
County Fair, August. 01:01:59
Fairground. 01:02:09
And the positive feedback is is good. 01:02:11
They're much appreciated, all that work. 01:02:15
And we'll be at the jackpot next week. 01:02:17
Father's Day. 01:02:19
I'll just I'll just make an put tension. 01:02:21
Sergeant Joe Bailey's. 01:02:25
Kids are heavily involved in this. 01:02:27
And it's a wonderful thing to hear and see. The whole family actually is right, so I know. 01:02:30
It's a lot of work, so. 01:02:36
Thank you very much. 01:02:38
I don't see anybody from Upper Hondo. Am I missing something? 01:02:41
To be that's another miss. 01:02:44
Got some questions I'm sure. 01:02:54
I don't know if heaven, but we'll try. 01:02:56
Commissioner Ward off with the southwestern mountain of RC and D Council. 01:03:01
In my. 01:03:06
Restarting down of notes, I apologize I look to be very African heavy on this report. 01:03:06
We will start with the EWP. 01:03:13
We are fully obligated. 01:03:16
On our first go round of the budget. 01:03:18
We are down to. 01:03:21
I want to say just a little bit about 7 million that has not been extended. So we are wrapping that up. 01:03:24
We did receive word that we have received from the state the $4 million. 01:03:30
Matching funds that we are asking for so that. 01:03:36
You can expand that budget by 16,000,012 will come from USDA or from the state. So we're just waiting for confirmation from 01:03:41
Washington that. 01:03:46
That additional funding will be made available to. 01:03:52
So when that happens, you guys will be presented with new agreements. 01:03:55
Decide so that we can continue those works. 01:03:59
I wish I had all of the statistics because it's pretty phenomenal. 01:04:03
The amount of. 01:04:07
Sediment and debris and. 01:04:09
Trash racks and sediment ponds and everything else that have been done in anticipation of trying to prepare for this year's. 01:04:12
Monsoon at the meeting we had last week. 01:04:20
We talked about. 01:04:23
Over half 1,000,000 cubic yards. 01:04:25
A sediment has been removed and. 01:04:27
Think of a football field 300 feet high, full of sediment that has come out of the the area so. 01:04:30
That's I think. 01:04:38
That the guys have done is phenomenal and they should be commended for that. 01:04:40
I still want to caution people that. 01:04:44
Because I hear it from folks. Don't you think we're done? 01:04:46
With the flooding and you know we will be having. 01:04:50
High water events and. 01:04:53
I'm just hopeful that we've been able to. 01:04:56
Prevent some additional damage to the area moving forward. 01:04:59
I still get. 01:05:03
A lot of questions about the buyout. We are still pursuing that with the CDG who met with. 01:05:05
Mr. Burns and Mr. Coleman on. 01:05:12
Moving forward with that, we did find out that we're not. 01:05:15
Allowed to. 01:05:19
We are allowed to use CDBG funds as match. 01:05:21
That was the business. What we're not allowed to do is purchase property with it. 01:05:25
But given the fact that we anticipate that 50% of that whole project is probably going to be removal. 01:05:30
Of umm. 01:05:37
Any kind of. 01:05:38
Utilities and cleanup of the lots and taking it back to green space, I feel comfortable that we can use that match. 01:05:40
For that persistent and still meet our obligations. 01:05:47
To be able to do that. 01:05:51
So that's kind of the way we're looking at. 01:05:52
Any progress on the estimate of what that total buyout? 01:05:56
Dollar amounts can be. 01:06:00
In round numbers, obviously it has been. 01:06:02
From the match size is the only thing that I've been looking at is. 01:06:08
Anywhere from what we think we can get, anywhere from 12 to 30. 01:06:12
Million. 01:06:18
Because I think honestly. 01:06:19
Over 100 million is not unrealistic. 01:06:22
For purchase of property and then the remediation. 01:06:24
Of that property. 01:06:28
So I, I think our budget is basically going to be based off of. 01:06:30
What can we get match wise? 01:06:35
And then we build from that if we get more funding than. 01:06:37
We realized. 01:06:41
Then we can expand. 01:06:43
So my assumption, my assumption is that there's going to have to be some analysis and. 01:06:46
The hierarchy of. 01:06:51
Properties that we think this is more important. 01:06:52
I think we rely on NRCS. 01:06:55
For giving us that hierarchy, that prioritization, are we getting that information from that? 01:06:58
Oh absolutely. They we've already sent them our. 01:07:03
This is here's our hope for area and then. 01:07:08
Once we get the actual budget in place, then we will whittle that down that based on FEMA match what maps will be using I think so 01:07:11
basically and and. 01:07:15
Jason, you might be able to answer that more accurately, but I believe that. 01:07:20
Because basically what we have learned is Val that we have. 01:07:25
Flood way distinction versus. 01:07:29
Blood plain and they're not going to permit anything in the flood way. 01:07:31
That's gonna be our number one. 01:07:36
Priority area is any property that. 01:07:39
That flood way. 01:07:42
On there so. 01:07:45
That's kind of where we start. 01:07:46
And then like I said. 01:07:49
We're looking at the real Ruidoso, but we have to look at Cedar Creek. We have to look at all of these other. 01:07:51
Areas. 01:07:57
That have significant impacts as far as what's coming down, sediment lines and that type of thing so. 01:07:58
Thankfully I will not be doing that, but we'll be using here. 01:08:05
Information So I understand the CDBG Dr. can be used for the match for a buyout program. Where does the actual? 01:08:10
Then NRCS would provide. 01:08:18
Yeah. So 70 years, it'll be the same type thing as a. 01:08:21
As a standard program, that 75% will come from USDA. 01:08:25
And then 25% will come from the CDC. 01:08:30
Normally we cannot match federal with federal. 01:08:34
Put CDG pins. 01:08:37
Are we going to have to follow all of the same rules that NRCS has? 01:08:42
Under the ION program through USDA. 01:08:47
Correct. And then also the HUD program. 01:08:50
We'll have to. We'll have to marry those two and make sure that we're looking all qualifications. 01:08:53
And and from my understanding, the disaster relief. 01:08:59
The CDP GDR is kind of a new. 01:09:04
Program. 01:09:08
That's so I don't know all of the. 01:09:09
Restrictions, rules, or anything like that. I'm kind of learning as we go. 01:09:13
So my understanding of Mr. Coleman, correct me if I'm wrong. 01:09:18
The applications aren't even going to be available till July or August. 01:09:24
Correct. And there's still some layout of the federal level that I understand maybe four to six months out? 01:09:28
So it's it's not going to be quick. I literally got a text while we were in the meeting today from one of the property owners. 01:09:35
Do you know anything? 01:09:42
He has added. 01:09:43
So. 01:09:45
That's one of those things we're wanting to be as prepared as possible when those applications are released. 01:09:47
So that Mister Coleman can can get right on that and we have plenty of time. 01:09:53
To provide the. 01:09:58
Correct information and do a very solid application. 01:09:59
So that's we're working together with the county on doing that. We were. 01:10:04
Approved for. 01:10:09
The MRP, which is emergency forest restoration program. 01:10:10
That is run through FSA, which is Farm Services Agency. 01:10:15
We are. 01:10:20
Learning about that program as well. 01:10:22
That is going to be run through New Mexico Forestry Division. 01:10:25
We are planning on having a public meeting on July 9th. 01:10:30
From 5:30 PM to 8:00, that will be at Ian and New. 01:10:35
And that is where we actually are planning on discussing all of the available programs. 01:10:40
To property owners. 01:10:47
Because the normal EWP, we close those applications on May 31st. 01:10:48
But Forestry Division still has their program open, which is doing the contour fouling and that type of thing. 01:10:53
This new program that EFRP will. 01:11:00
That we'll be able to give folks an update on. 01:11:02
The buyout program, even if the update is just. 01:11:06
It's been we're hoping that we're successful on it. 01:11:11
So put that on your calendars and plan on attending. 01:11:15
I do have. 01:11:21
I just literally finally got last week the agreement for the community wildfire defense grants. 01:11:23
That I know. See, I told you acronym PWD. 01:11:30
We were actually awarded that two years ago to two years to get the agreement to us, but we did get that through. 01:11:35
That is approximately 780,000 and that is for us to be sitting. 01:11:42
Within. 01:11:48
Properties. Private properties, but they are county properties. 01:11:50
But they are right basically in. 01:11:53
Ruidoso area, so off of Carrizo Canyon. This was the area we originally had. 01:11:58
Yeehaw and Alpine Village in that part of that program they burned over. So we have kind of pivoted will be over in my Camelot 01:12:04
area, those types of things. 01:12:09
But we'll be doing thinning project in there and start that as soon as possible. That's very exciting. 01:12:13
How are? How are you working at with? 01:12:21
With the county manager and his team. 01:12:24
In coordinating and collaborating with, we already have. 01:12:27
Because that program comes through, it is actual federal funds running through New Mexico Forestry Division down with us. 01:12:31
So we have already. 01:12:40
Highlighted and actually targeted specific properties already. 01:12:42
But as always, we. 01:12:47
County Management. 01:12:49
Appraised of what we're doing. 01:12:50
Forestry Mortgage. 01:12:53
Who? Yeah. Yeah. 01:12:56
And so Mitch will be helping me. 01:13:00
With doing actual property assessments. 01:13:03
And then we'll be hiring contractors to go in and and clear those properties. 01:13:06
Time manager Obviously this this ties the dovetails with our efforts. 01:13:12
And so we we. 01:13:16
What we want to do, $750,000 sounds like a lot of money. It's not very quickly. 01:13:17
What we don't, what we don't want to do is. 01:13:24
Checkerboard our efforts in such a way that. 01:13:27
They're ineffectual. 01:13:30
Right in effect. 01:13:31
So we can combine. 01:13:33
And we're talking in that, by the way. 01:13:35
And and Mitch and and Laura McCarthy and so forth. 01:13:37
But if we can combine our efforts to actually focus on a broader area. 01:13:41
You might have the chance. 01:13:45
Of saving the neighborhood. 01:13:47
Correct. And that's why we highlighted. 01:13:49
Most people don't realize that it's county property, but as you come in on Carrizo and if you were going to turn left going up 01:13:53
towards Grindstone Lake. 01:13:57
That whole area there is county. 01:14:01
But it's right smack in the middle of Rio, so should we have an ignition there? 01:14:04
We're on the same page in general, but I think. 01:14:10
Closer coordination, collaboration is important. We'll get. 01:14:13
I'm sure county manager and his team will get with Nick, et cetera. 01:14:17
And we are finishing up on our project in Lincoln. 01:14:22
That grant ends the end of this month. 01:14:26
Because that is through New Mexico counties and we followed the fiscal year on that one. 01:14:29
And then? 01:14:34
I am late because I've been doing a few other things. I'm getting the RFP out for the community wildfire. 01:14:35
The CWPP. 01:14:43
And so our protection plan and will be. 01:14:44
Putting that out just as soon as possible. 01:14:48
We also have just started the grant for the Smokey Bear Historic. 01:14:51
Park and updating all of their outdoor. 01:14:57
Area making it more accessible to. 01:15:01
The community and updating their boardwalk and their irrigation system. 01:15:05
And all that type of stuff that is a planning grant. So what we hope to have by the end of that of this year on that. 01:15:08
Is fully ready. 01:15:15
Plans so that we can hand them off and go looking for funding to actually implement those. 01:15:16
And we also submitted a grant on their behalf to the Mexico Tourism Department. 01:15:23
Because it's the 50th anniversary of. 01:15:29
Historic Park of Smokey Bear Historic Park next year, so we wanted some additional funds for them to be able to use to promote. 01:15:33
Their 50th anniversary on that. 01:15:40
So I can't answer any questions. 01:15:43
Great work as always. Well, thank you all very much. We appreciate and. 01:15:50
I don't know in my. 01:15:55
On any other agenda items for you that I need? 01:15:56
So so thanks again. 01:16:02
Let's move on. 01:16:08
We'll go back and follow the. 01:16:10
#4. 01:16:14
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, so. 01:16:21
We had a meeting and this is this has been something that we've. 01:16:24
Discussed and and. 01:16:28
I very much feel like we'll play and and work very much into our. 01:16:31
Efforts that we want to do with a lot of our initiatives. 01:16:37
And programs. 01:16:41
With public information, public outreach. 01:16:43
We've done a little looking around and come to find out. 01:16:49
Gentleman next to me is Matt Ingram with Zombie. 01:16:53
Mountain Zombie LLC. 01:16:56
Which is a marketing program. Yes, Sir. 01:16:57
Marketing company, I apologize. Agency. There you go. 01:17:01
They've done a lot of workforce in the past. 01:17:06
A lot of things that I think that we want to see come to fruition. 01:17:09
Mr. Ingram's already created. 01:17:14
Really what the presentation is today. 01:17:16
Is for him to present. 01:17:19
What he can bring and do for the county. 01:17:20
As far as a social media basis, as far as a website basis. 01:17:23
For some of these initiatives and programs that we're rolling out. 01:17:26
Now, because our information and how we get information to our. 01:17:30
Constituents to our public. 01:17:35
Is very much. 01:17:37
An important aspect of what we do, of what you do as Commissioners, so. 01:17:39
With that, I'm gonna. 01:17:43
Plug into. 01:17:44
We're just going to do this. 01:17:46
I know, right? 01:17:59
Let's start the three model sooner than. 01:18:00
Anyway. 01:18:05
Good morning, Commissioners, County Manager. Thank you so much for having me. This is kind of a. 01:18:06
Curtailing off of what we had done last year with a. 01:18:11
Kind of a revitalization effort, as you will. 01:18:15
After the fires, we went in and done a digital billboard. 01:18:18
Campaign social media campaign. 01:18:22
As well as. 01:18:25
You know, get a website and digital app development. 01:18:28
Within the campaign that we did there. So we ran it for 90 days, if you guys were familiar with last summer. 01:18:32
Unfortunately, after 90 days, there was no more funds for us to continue on. 01:18:37
With our effort so. 01:18:42
The approach today is to come after a professional services agreement over a course of 12 months to just oversee the social media. 01:18:43
Website. 01:18:52
Any type of advisors in management through the company? 01:18:53
For Lincoln County. 01:18:57
Understand that Ruidoso is really the hub of the community, but these outlying folks or these satellite? 01:18:58
Of communities that we have really getting the interest in the draw. 01:19:05
Going out and showcasing these. 01:19:09
You know, events and businesses. 01:19:12
Just kind of tell the story of Lincoln County so. 01:19:16
I'm not sure why we're not detecting. 01:19:19
Advice here. 01:19:23
Might be a knock knock. 01:19:27
I had lazy. 01:19:29
The basically an outline of the proposal. 01:19:32
On your desk there the ideas for us is to. 01:19:36
Just my marketing team will go out create the content. 01:19:40
Produce all the videos, the photos. 01:19:43
Put those on the social platforms that we've already have developed. 01:19:46
With that. 01:19:50
I think that would be able to really tell the story of linking Downing. 01:19:52
Already be established in Instagram, Facebook, tick tock platform that actually has traction behind it. 01:19:56
And then if you guys are familiar with the visit Linco website. 01:20:02
That's good. 01:20:08
The Visit Linco website, which actually has all of our RV parks, businesses, restaurants. 01:20:10
The app supports our website and that you can go in there and actually track. 01:20:17
All the special events that are going on, you can find out where all of our RV parks are across the county. 01:20:21
I've actually gone in there and developed. 01:20:28
A page for each one of our business owners on there and leave their Facebook pages to our website. 01:20:30
So just kind of an additional support to to our business owners in the. 01:20:36
In the county. 01:20:40
Just kind of moving through this, our website was developed by a company called Visit Widget. 01:20:43
They actually did an in kind build for us, about a $20,000 bill. 01:20:49
During last summer. 01:20:54
This was all in kind. It is a $800 a month. 01:20:56
Service fees starting August 1st. 01:21:00
To continue our website and our digital app. 01:21:03
That we have for Lincoln County. 01:21:06
So just want to be transparent on that since it has been about a year since we wrapped up our our last campaign. 01:21:08
Really for us is, you know. 01:21:15
The ad spends and buys is if we can work with the New Mexico Tourism Department, we're able to do that. Last year with $25,000, 01:21:17
they did a match with us. So we. 01:21:22
Ultimately created a $50,000. 01:21:27
Digital ad buy that went through Odessa Midlands. 01:21:29
The photos that we took were were put on the side of the billboards, digital buys. So we're not buying just a traditional. 01:21:34
Final print These are messaging that we can update. 01:21:40
Working with the tourism department would be a good way just to leverage funds. 01:21:44
Also, we could work with other strategic partners, other counties, to maybe leverage some of the funding. 01:21:47
To the highlight and showcase some of the stuff that we have in county. 01:21:54
Commission. Excuse me, County manager. 01:21:58
Jason and I were discussing all the stuff that will be happening in Roswell in the coming years with the. 01:22:01
The new airplane race series that they have coming in and there's ways that we can cross promote. 01:22:07
And drive traffic to some of our. 01:22:12
You know, lodging establishments, that would really kind of be the idea. 01:22:14
Again, just focusing on. 01:22:17
You know, tourism has kind of been the narrative that we have stuck with. 01:22:19
But we're also opening to sharing messaging that, you know, Commission. 01:22:22
Would want to share to. 01:22:26
You know, basically your audience. 01:22:29
I think our audience a lot is going to be focusing on the Texas clientele. 01:22:31
And demographic. 01:22:36
As far as? 01:22:38
Building out websites, all that stuff, we would just keep everything current. I actually went through the website. We do have 01:22:40
some. 01:22:43
Businesses that have closed down and we've had some new businesses open. 01:22:46
So that would kind of be part of what we do is managing those platforms. 01:22:49
Social media is going to be easy with Facebook. 01:22:54
Instagram and tick tock. 01:22:57
Those are going to be Tick Tock and YouTube are kind of the new platforms that a lot of people are using. 01:22:59
We've had some of our videos from the. 01:23:04
90 day campaign have close to 8000 views on some of these videos. 01:23:07
So a very simple video of a elf walking through a. 01:23:11
The river or something like that? 01:23:14
Really is generating like an organic marketing for us so. 01:23:16
Really the idea there is just digital creation for Lincoln County. 01:23:21
Really, we just want to drive economic growth to all of our tourists. Having the marketing campaign, you have to have something 01:23:26
that's trackable for us. We do have a website and a digital app that we can. 01:23:31
Direct people to. 01:23:36
And be able to kind of track what we're actually doing in the efforts that we're seeing. So. 01:23:38
Again, if you guys haven't gone on to the visit lemco.com. 01:23:44
We have several other domains that we get back to it. 01:23:48
Lincoln County, New Mexico Calm. 01:23:51
As well. Those are all just a little too long. The domains that we didn't choose so. 01:23:54
Again, we can kind of manage and gather this campaign, however however we felt fit. 01:23:58
But showcasing, you know, just all the amenities that we have here across Lincoln County. 01:24:04
More specifically outside of of Ruidoso. 01:24:09
How do we tell the story of White Oaks like getting corona? 01:24:12
Lincoln, Capitan and those communities that sometimes aren't necessarily. 01:24:16
I guess I'll kind of just stand for any questions that you guys might have apologize on. 01:24:22
Not being able to show you guys this but this is the website. 01:24:27
You can go down to the bottom left. There you can actually plan your trip. 01:24:30
Which will be our. 01:24:34
Access to our. 01:24:37
App and that will have all of the different events that are going on. We've actually partnered with the village of. 01:24:39
Excuse me, the village of Ruidoso on their feed. 01:24:47
That supports onto ours, so anything that goes on in Rideau, so it's automatically shown on to ours. 01:24:50
And again, we can work with all these local events that get thrown. 01:24:55
For instance, Garrett with the Utd tours and stuff like that, we can always highlight and showcase stuff that's getting funded 01:24:59
through the lodgers tax. 01:25:02
County lodgers tax as well. 01:25:07
Yeah, if you go up there to the the state, that's where all of our. 01:25:12
All of our. 01:25:15
This is going to be where all of our RV parks are. 01:25:19
Loaded onto it. So I again, I think that this is just a great. 01:25:24
Platform that we developed already. 01:25:27
We just wanted to give everybody a actual. 01:25:30
Place on our website and cater to everyone, everyone of the businesses. 01:25:33
You can come in here. 01:25:38
Our eat and drink section here. 01:25:40
And just highlighting all of the different. 01:25:44
Restaurants that we have in the county. 01:25:48
So a lot of this has been done. We did the work in the 90 day campaign last year and we were able to really leverage those funds 01:25:50
and we would work again with New Mexico Tourism Department with some Co-op funding. 01:25:56
You've actually missed the bill for this. 01:26:02
For this year, so it have. 01:26:04
Last year was kind of a special deal that we were able to kind of pull some strings and get the those funds, but. 01:26:06
Again, would be willing to sniff out funds for advice and spends. 01:26:11
Again, this is just this contract for a professional services wouldn't really include. 01:26:15
We wanted to do a $5000 ad buy digital ad guy. We would need to source the funds. 01:26:21
You know, we would need to somehow manage that. 01:26:28
So. 01:26:31
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 01:26:32
This what we asked him to come. 01:26:35
Tell you today is. 01:26:37
Not necessarily. Still this. 01:26:39
But this is an example of what he can do. 01:26:41
And think of this. 01:26:44
Not for materialism aspect. And yes, this is very important. 01:26:45
Sort of bringing people to Lincoln County and showcasing what we can do. 01:26:49
From a fire initiative. 01:26:53
Our fire programs. 01:26:54
They were going to roll out with. 01:26:56
The stuff and everybody consolidating this information. 01:26:57
With our Facebook pages, and not from a political aspect, but from getting what we're doing. 01:27:01
Within county Commission meetings. 01:27:05
Within the meetings that we attend in our message out to the public. 01:27:07
This is just an example of what Matt can put together. 01:27:11
But it could be whatever we want it to be. 01:27:14
As much as our public outreach wants to be. 01:27:16
So this is what we were asking him to come present today is. 01:27:19
His capabilities. 01:27:23
Is there any outside funding for this? 01:27:26
Yes. So he's, he's leveraging grants with tourism. 01:27:29
I think there's additional grants. 01:27:33
Elsewhere that we could pursue. 01:27:35
But Matt's already very familiar with the grants that we could use to help. 01:27:37
Facilitate this. 01:27:41
The tourism side, yes. 01:27:42
Mr. Wilson, quick question. 01:27:45
My my question kind of goes into that is. 01:27:48
We can. I really appreciate you wanting to leverage this other and partner up with the Oasis. 01:27:51
You know that. 01:27:56
That leverages the money we spend. 01:27:57
Phenomenon. My question is, do you have an idea of what? 01:27:59
How many money would be looking at for those big boards or? 01:28:03
Sure, absolutely. I think last year we did a $10,000 digital media buy and again, this was only a 60 day campaign that we ran. 01:28:06
So. 01:28:15
The stent could be over $100,000 most. 01:28:17
Destination marketing organizations have. 01:28:20
You know, I think the village of Ruidoso is doing $1.4 million match fund with the with the tourism department, so. 01:28:23
Really, I mean, we're kind of small potatoes here, but really anything we could be very resourceful with. 01:28:31
And so I would like to see a 50 to 100,000. 01:28:37
Dollar budget in AD spot, advise and spend so. 01:28:40
So we do that through the tourism department, whether we come up with some other. 01:28:45
Type of funding sources through grants, Working with the lodgers tax. I know that they're pretty taxed themselves with all the 01:28:49
lodging establishments that we lost during the fire. 01:28:54
So it just be mindful of. 01:28:59
Just trying to scrounge together. 01:29:01
The money to do so? 01:29:03
Because or that's my question still is. 01:29:05
You know when you pay for your services, but I'd like to have an idea of what were. 01:29:09
Actually I understand it. I thought that we could do as much as our work, but. 01:29:12
But we don't already be spending roughly almost $11,000 on a business. 01:29:16
Which is yes Sir, every every year. 01:29:21
So you know, without all the. 01:29:24
Things that tie together to make it work. 01:29:26
You know just your management won't work with me. 01:29:30
Spencer was money, so. 01:29:33
I'd like to understand what. 01:29:34
So now might potentially. 01:29:37
So what's you have in front of you today? 01:29:41
Proposal for Matt to create and manage. 01:29:43
What we're asking to with the input from. 01:29:47
The county with whatever direction, or the fire campaign you know we've been talking a lot about. 01:29:50
Are concerned about water. 01:29:56
And as we started. 01:29:58
Putting those issues out and start wanting to get information to the public. 01:29:59
So, Matt? 01:30:05
Very much anxious to jump on board and run with this. 01:30:06
But your message is going to be the one that. 01:30:09
You decide and direct. 01:30:12
So and I think also what he's talking once $100,000 marketing campaign that's in addition to. 01:30:14
What his services are and with what the county will provide him through. 01:30:19
That's just managing the aspects, helping us obtain information. 01:30:22
And we could probably start with some of those campaigns that he's discussing. 01:30:27
I think what he's wanting to do and kind of discussing is in addition to marketing campaign, which we might want to do with as we 01:30:31
get fired programs rolled out. 01:30:35
I just think it's important that we delineate between the two so we have. 01:30:39
One contract that would be focused on marketing of in tourism based. 01:30:46
Which could be funded out of lodgers tax. 01:30:52
But then on the other hand, I think what we're wanting to leverage. 01:30:54
Using a marketing agency would be. 01:30:58
County. 01:31:01
Operations. 01:31:02
And the organization information pushed out. I know the sheriff has a huge following and does a great job for us, but. 01:31:03
Oftentimes this falls on his shoulders. 01:31:11
When it should be coming from? 01:31:13
The governing body. 01:31:15
I mean even. 01:31:17
Project updates, you know they could go out more frequent with. 01:31:19
Timelines and the public would be able to understand what the. 01:31:24
Return of investment is on their tax dollars and I think that's what. 01:31:28
I, as a Commissioner, would like to see the marketing agency come in and push for us. 01:31:32
Commissioner Furnace bought. That's exactly what it is. Project updates. 01:31:37
Road closures, emergency updates that we can push immigration out to the public. 01:31:41
So. 01:31:45
So I'm looking at. 01:31:47
Looking at the budget here. 01:31:50
So we are in. 01:31:52
Until August, I think you said $900 a month for the widget app. 01:31:54
899 Yes, Sir, Yeah. 01:31:58
OK. 01:31:59
And then and then you're asking. 01:32:02
To do something. 01:32:05
It's not quite clear what it is. 01:32:07
You're asking for. 01:32:10
Monthly professional services at about 5000. Yes Sir. 01:32:12
For the annual total close to 60. 01:32:16
Yes, Sir. 01:32:18
So, so that's 60 plus. 01:32:21
12,000. 01:32:24
Or 11,000? 01:32:25
Yes, and typically those contracts would need to be held directly with the with that other contract that you have with the visit 01:32:27
widget team. 01:32:31
So it would be it's technically outside of the contract. Understood. I'm wondering if we're. 01:32:36
If we're duplicating our efforts here unnecessarily. 01:32:43
The fact that we need both. 01:32:47
I don't. 01:32:49
I don't know if we need both the the visit widget is in. 01:32:50
In addition to, I think it's a cell phone. 01:32:53
It's kind of what that is. If that's something we decide not to go, what I'd recover from. 01:32:56
Matt is to provide us. 01:33:00
A proposal for what he can do for us. 01:33:03
For the professional services limit, we can adjust that level of. 01:33:06
Effort to what we think is appropriate. 01:33:09
In terms of the $5000 a month, you can adjust that. 01:33:12
So the content so so obviously. 01:33:16
We're somewhat impressed by the content on the. 01:33:20
Visitor side. The tourism side. 01:33:23
Could be changed, could be expanded. 01:33:27
But but if you look. 01:33:29
The broader interest of the county. 01:33:30
We know that. 01:33:34
We know that Ruidoso is is really hitting it hard, he said, $1.4 million in terms of an ad campaign. 01:33:35
Tourism, uh. 01:33:42
I'm not so. 01:33:43
Sure that we. 01:33:44
Need to do a whole lot more in that particular side. 01:33:47
There are some things you know we're missing. 01:33:51
What goes on at the fairgrounds, I think that's huge. 01:33:54
Even what was going to happen, what happened last week and what's going to happen next week? 01:33:58
And obviously the Stampede and. 01:34:03
Smokey Bear days and all that stuff that. 01:34:06
That needs to be in there. 01:34:08
But I share Commissioner Cerna's. 01:34:10
Concerns and with respect to this other more. 01:34:13
Less, less tourism information. 01:34:16
You know, these efforts that we're going to talk about, the firewise programs, the hardening programs, the water issues. 01:34:20
Things like EMS, things like Volunteer Fire departments. 01:34:27
Obviously. 01:34:32
The Sheriff's Office is. It's very important to be there. There's a lot of. 01:34:33
Stuff that's not. 01:34:36
In this realm. 01:34:38
We're going to get that content. Are we going to be responsible for developing that content, handing it over to you and say run 01:34:39
with it or develop it? Is that, is that the deal? 01:34:43
The way I'd like to see it work is that we provide the content like an elevator pitch. 01:34:47
And then he prepares the image or the graphics needed to go along with it and then. 01:34:52
Shows it. 01:34:57
Back to either the manager or. 01:34:58
The Commission and then we go ahead and get the information posted. 01:35:00
But I think that it's important. I mean, even just like what we did today with recognizing the success of our employees. 01:35:04
You know, promoting safety. 01:35:11
Showing how we have cost savings, the amount of grants that we're bringing in. I don't think that the public realizes all of these 01:35:13
wins that we've been championing for years. Yeah. 01:35:17
That the staff's hard work needs to be. 01:35:22
I agree with that, Swarani. 01:35:26
Any remediation of the. 01:35:28
That's been going on and everything else, you know. 01:35:31
A lot of people don't realize. 01:35:33
How much? 01:35:35
Is going on in Italian. 01:35:36
And I think it'd be a good platform to start with. 01:35:38
I'm always kind of been based on the the tourism side of things and just something for y'all's consideration as you move forward 01:35:40
with just the image of Lincoln County is, hey, come visit us. 01:35:45
On one narrative. 01:35:50
Red flag warning your house. 01:35:51
Might burn down or wash away today. 01:35:54
So I do see two conflicting narratives of. 01:35:56
Well, I think we need that vote. So I think we need both ends of the spectrum. That way they know they. 01:35:59
We are doing something to prevent this from happening. 01:36:05
There's a lot more community feel good happening now than one year ago. 01:36:08
Is the good move to back? 01:36:13
Very much from what the Commission's. 01:36:15
Saying. 01:36:17
We will control the message. 01:36:19
And I think it's a partnership with Matt being able to create it and help us post it with the information. 01:36:21
Of what we are giving him. 01:36:27
Matt, do you have any? 01:36:28
Any idea how how your architecture of the website has changed that? 01:36:29
Tool messaging. I mean we really have full flexibility and run with this. With the website we can have them edit and change any 01:36:34
type of. 01:36:39
You know, format that we built, you know, feel fit if we want to have a our own page for maybe a community update. 01:36:44
We can kind of work on that and get that added on. 01:36:52
I know that you guys do have. 01:36:55
Chairman, the idea here is. 01:36:57
This is very much a come visit Lincoln County. 01:36:59
We're we're kind of wanting. 01:37:02
Him to look at our website and help us with ours. 01:37:05
So this is very much its own deal as an example of his capabilities. 01:37:08
Ours is to revise ours as well as. 01:37:14
Start pushing social media. 01:37:17
So you're saying you're going to maintain our website that we have? 01:37:19
Contract negotiations, yeah, we're on WordPress, we're working on that, but the idea is for our website. But Matt, just linking to 01:37:24
what you're saying, you know, having to. 01:37:30
Talk about the day-to-day operations with the. 01:37:37
The county, you know, it's not a sexy thing. 01:37:41
To say as far as tourism. 01:37:45
But if we look at, you know. 01:37:48
Progress Mondays and we show. 01:37:51
You know, umm. 01:37:53
A really dense forest, and then we show where it's been thinned or. 01:37:54
Some roads and drainage has been improved or if we have like Finance Friday. 01:37:58
Hit on some winds that our finance team has put together. I think that we could go in that direction. 01:38:02
I I would recommend. 01:38:11
That we do two things One, let's look at. 01:38:13
At this current website that you have. 01:38:16
Which is tourism Happy, Glad. 01:38:19
And all that stuff. 01:38:21
And then and then we need to understand. 01:38:23
How this other one would look like, and I think we've got some good ideas here. 01:38:26
But I think it's very important to get that other message, and that's really what I'm focused on right now. 01:38:31
What does? 01:38:38
Where their tax dollars are growing and where they're not going and what they. 01:38:40
The focus and the efforts of the Commission. 01:38:43
And the whole county is. 01:38:46
It is focused on. 01:38:47
So I don't know that. 01:38:49
Do do we need to have? 01:38:52
Another presentation. 01:38:54
Tops today I'd like what I request from the Commission. 01:38:55
Is. 01:39:01
Maybe a preliminary trial of what we're going to do, allowing me to work with Matt. 01:39:04
See if we can't make some things better and with the direction of the Commission. 01:39:08
And then come back and show you what we've come up with. 01:39:14
Kind of like what you're saying, maybe an additional presentation, yeah. 01:39:16
Would allow me to work with you come up with something as a. 01:39:19
I guess the proposal that allows to kind of start pushing out some information with social media and some of those things and. 01:39:24
And then we'll come back and definitely get some. 01:39:31
Comments, questions, revisions and direction. I think that's what I said. 01:39:34
Any other comments? Is there any? 01:39:38
I don't think right now this is going to be under a professional services. One mystery will very much keep it. 01:39:44
On a preliminary basis and we'll discuss that with you. 01:39:52
But I don't think there's an action things to happen now. 01:39:55
Is everyone OK with those pursuits? 01:39:58
So you want to you want to have independent negotiating authority and obligating. 01:40:01
For this effort also begun. 01:40:06
I would just like for y'all to focus though on social media and digital content. 01:40:09
Well. 01:40:15
Helping to get the brand. 01:40:16
I think we can really tell, tell a good message, especially with all the the good happenings that were in here. Just even sitting 01:40:19
in here, we're we're missing the ball on some of this stuff. 01:40:25
You know, patrons don't know what's going on unless they're sitting in this room. So yeah, we can definitely highlight what you 01:40:33
guys are doing it so. 01:40:36
Yeah, and it's also part of economic development to ensure that the. 01:40:39
The county citizens and those outside. 01:40:43
Now that this is a good safe. 01:40:45
Place to come in place? Yeah, absolutely so. 01:40:48
Yeah, I don't see a motion out of this, but we'll see in July with what you did. 01:40:53
OK, does that. Does that. 01:40:59
Are we good with that? 01:41:01
We'll bring it back. We'll talk. Very good. Thank you. 01:41:03
Update. 01:41:12
So the next thing on the agenda? 01:41:15
Is he? 01:41:19
Presentation. Umm. 01:41:21
And again. 01:41:26
Manager Burns, you got it. 01:41:28
All right. 01:41:30
So. 01:41:38
Chairman. Commissioners. 01:41:39
With this item. 01:41:41
It has been. 01:41:45
Very much communicated at one of our. 01:41:48
Probably our top priority. 01:41:51
Is being ready for the next fire. 01:41:53
Because it's tomorrow. 01:41:56
So with that, what we put together to discuss today. 01:41:59
Is a readiness initiative. 01:42:04
And this is taking all of our projects that we've discussed, all of our initiatives that we've discussed. 01:42:06
And kind of put them in an action plan. 01:42:11
It gives you a mission and a vision statement and I'll read the mission statement is to safeguard the people property. 01:42:16
Now, the resources of Lincoln County, New Mexico by implementing a comprehensive. 01:42:22
Cooperation, fire prevention strategies. 01:42:26
That enhanced resilience, promote public safety and strengthen the community preparedness. 01:42:29
Wildland fires. 01:42:33
This needs to be a group effort. 01:42:36
There's a lot. 01:42:39
Of. 01:42:40
Entities. 01:42:41
And efforts. 01:42:43
From multiple. 01:42:44
Sources. Uh. 01:42:45
That we need to bring together and essentially be the spearhead. 01:42:46
On food, because if we have. 01:42:50
You know, it's, it's, it's what grandma said. There's too many bucks in the kitchen. 01:42:53
There needs to be that One Direction to where we actually get dinner on the table. 01:42:57
We need to prioritize our efforts. We need to lead the charge and actually support the efforts. 01:43:02
To move them forwards, there's actually. 01:43:07
We get the boots on the ground, we get to actionable. 01:43:11
Sources we get to actionable. 01:43:15
Defense. So with that, we wind out a few companies. 01:43:17
Components of the prioritization is our Wildland Urban Interface program. 01:43:21
That's a firefighter. That's our. 01:43:25
That's our top priority. 01:43:26
We need to get this going. There's funding available. 01:43:28
We need to understand procurement, we need to get all the sources and the people in the room to talk about this. 01:43:30
Our Firewise community program. This is something that very much Aaron's already working on. 01:43:38
We need to elaborate on this. We need to make it more structured. 01:43:42
We need to put it out on a website so that's available to people when they want to look at it. 01:43:45
And not just Aaron. Taking a PowerPoint to people that ask for it needs to be available. 01:43:49
All the time. 01:43:54
To everyone and Aaron's doing a great job, but we need to elaborate and expand on that. 01:43:55
Our regional fire trainings. 01:44:00
This is something we've talked about. 01:44:03
We're going to bring to you here soon with our projects. We're going to talk about about our projects list. 01:44:04
Again, it's one of the projects and initiatives that's going to improve and make us more ready for the next part. 01:44:09
Our strategic location water storage is something Ross is currently working on. We've received grant money. 01:44:16
This is also another big piece of the deal. 01:44:21
That as we implement this, folks need to know where these things are, what we're doing, and why. 01:44:25
And then ultimately, we're drinking in our Volunteer Fire departments. 01:44:30
This being our last key component. 01:44:34
But also probably one of our most important. 01:44:36
Our local guys out in the field, boots on the ground, we need to make sure that they've got the resources and tools to do what 01:44:38
they need to do out and actually fight these fires when they do. 01:44:42
And be ready when they happen. 01:44:46
And they've done a great job. I'll really come in there and our Volunteer Fire departments. 01:44:48
They are. When we have a fire, when it's reported, they're on it and they're on it now. 01:44:53
You know, and I'll tell you, for many county, we used to send too many resources to wildland fires because they didn't go very far 01:44:59
very fast. 01:45:02
Here. 01:45:05
We put all the resources we can. We get it knocked out now. 01:45:06
Very much so, because it could be a big deal. 01:45:09
Sooner than we need it. 01:45:11
And they've done a very admirable job of getting to them make sure those fires don't become they deal. 01:45:13
So those are our. 01:45:19
Those are our key components and we can add this understand this is a working initiative. 01:45:21
We have our public assistance outreach, which is what we just talked about. It ties into mass field. 01:45:26
It hasn't been forced if we bring all these resources together and we put out into the public. 01:45:31
What we're doing, why? 01:45:35
And we provide those resources with Aaron to go out and do home inspections, to provide the services that Laura has and we make 01:45:37
those available to the public. 01:45:41
Our coordination and couple. 01:45:47
Cooperation. 01:45:49
This is all of our entities we got to bring together. 01:45:50
Our federal agencies, our state agencies, our local agencies. 01:45:52
At the end of the day, we need everybody sitting at the table talking about what we're all doing. 01:45:56
And leading the charge together. Not here, there, Yonder. 01:46:00
So. 01:46:03
Bringing everybody to the table with the county, coordinating and leading that effort with all the folks because at the end of the 01:46:04
day, we're Lincoln County. We need to be going to sleep in the charge. 01:46:08
And with that we put an implement type implementation timeline. 01:46:16
I feel this is fairly aggressive. 01:46:20
But it can be more and this and I want you to understand. 01:46:23
The fire is tomorrow. 01:46:26
We're working on this now. 01:46:28
And this is very much a. 01:46:30
Overtime implementation because we need to. 01:46:33
Strengthening our fire readiness as a whole. And it's not just a tomorrow initiative, it is a. 01:46:36
How do we strengthen ourselves? 01:46:42
As a whole. 01:46:44
All of these initiatives as we implement them are going to improve our SO ratings. They're going to improve our insurance rates. 01:46:46
So this isn't overtime. 01:46:51
Initiative. 01:46:53
But it is very now or. 01:46:54
A right now problem. 01:46:55
As we've talked with Chairman and all the Commission. 01:46:59
I mean, we're going to finalize an initiative. We're going to roll this thing out to the public. At the same time, we're going to 01:47:02
secure grant funding. 01:47:05
And we're going to initiate projects and we hope to have that done within the next 30 days. 01:47:08
Really, honestly, and I say this and. 01:47:13
Yeah, we really have glimpsed on the ground here in the next 30 days and we're going to push that. I don't know if it's possible, 01:47:16
but that's what we're going to try to do. 01:47:19
So it's. 01:47:24
It's going to be a push. 01:47:26
And it's going to be an aggressive push and I think we have several folks that are ready. 01:47:27
To see this happen. 01:47:31
We need to bring them into the fold so that we're all supporting and pushing each other together. 01:47:33
And that's what this is. 01:47:37
It is an action plan that we're putting in front of you today. 01:47:39
To say, here's what we're going to do. 01:47:42
And get ready, here we come. 01:47:44
And bring everybody to the table and just kind of say. 01:47:46
Here we are so. 01:47:50
I know I ran through that kind of quick, but I will stand for questions and comments. 01:47:52
So this is part of the water storage document for the fire stations. 01:48:00
I was just thinking that maybe you need some water storage. 01:48:04
Fairgrounds also for the. 01:48:08
Evacuation of. 01:48:11
Stuff that are. 01:48:13
That are. 01:48:14
The last part they had an evacuation and. 01:48:17
You're taking animals for the fairgrounds. I don't think we have sufficient water. 01:48:19
I don't either and I think that would be very strategic location. I know we're talking with Jeff and Ross about including that as 01:48:23
one of our locations. 01:48:26
And about where the best place would be that the Fairgrounds Rd. department, but yes, right in that vicinity somewhere. 01:48:29
I'd like to see that. 01:48:35
Because there's another part of this, what we're including with our strategic location is how we're going to recharge these 01:48:36
things. 01:48:39
And I know we got rainwater collection, but we also rainwater collection and we may have to grow well. 01:48:42
I might have to drill well. Yes, Sir. So let's see if we have any water rights or. 01:48:47
Something to that. 01:48:51
Of effects so we can actually utilize the water. 01:48:53
Fire safety and also maybe in the animals that are coming in and also for the road department to use on the highway. 01:48:57
On the road, which I think we can very much accommodate that with an ad. 01:49:05
The fairgrounds, so especially with it being for. 01:49:08
Animals while they're there. 01:49:11
Sure. 01:49:14
I have a couple comments. 01:49:19
So if I go to. 01:49:21
Section 5. Coordination, cooperation. It's a minor, it seems like a milk, but it really. 01:49:24
So when you get down to the. 01:49:30
Second last bullet. 01:49:32
Talk about local entities, Lincoln County fire departments. 01:49:34
Travel reservation. I want to be very specific. These are neighbors and friends. Nescalero Tribal government. 01:49:38
Needs to be there local entities I don't care about that's. 01:49:45
The other comment I had was and and I think. 01:49:50
Your comments. 01:49:54
Mr. Manager, reflect my feelings as well. 01:49:56
That that I think. 01:50:00
We need to be very ******** on dates. 01:50:02
And goal setting. 01:50:06
And then be able to come back. 01:50:09
And see where we fall short or where we. 01:50:11
Are advanced beyond that. 01:50:14
And that's not defined lane, but it's we need to have measures of effectiveness. 01:50:17
They need to understand and see progress. 01:50:23
You go back. 01:50:25
To some of the documents that. 01:50:27
Are currently extant in this county. 01:50:29
Our planning documents, et cetera, that are 20 years old. 01:50:32
The things that we're talking about. 01:50:37
Mostly have been talked about for 20 years. 01:50:39
Mostly. 01:50:41
I I don't want to leave this. 01:50:45
This Commission still talking about? 01:50:46
None of us needs to happen. 01:50:50
So so I I applaud your. 01:50:53
Enthusiasm and your reference to. 01:50:56
In 30 days we'll have boots on the ground. 01:50:59
I'm gonna hold you to that. 01:51:02
Believe it when you see it. No, I'm just going to encourage you. And I would also add. 01:51:04
That you. 01:51:10
Whatever influence, little or large, that we may have on this Commission. 01:51:12
To get help. 01:51:16
This is this is a group. 01:51:17
The group effort and it's not just on your shoulders or. 01:51:19
Aaron or Brian? 01:51:22
Ross's as an. 01:51:24
As an example. 01:51:25
But it's it's all of us, and in order to make us work. 01:51:27
We have to be there and. 01:51:30
Including Jeff. 01:51:32
Yes, thank you. 01:51:34
But it's, it's all of us and, and really there's, there's got to be some, some good conversations. 01:51:37
With the sheriff as well on this because. 01:51:43
They're part of that. 01:51:45
In a big, big way. 01:51:46
Very much and so we want to make sure that that they feel. 01:51:48
But their input is is involved in it and that their. 01:51:52
Can add whatever they need to in terms of making this a better plan. 01:51:55
So I just wanted to add. 01:52:00
The phrase I heard you say was the. 01:52:03
Fire training facility, I think the direction was a public safety. 01:52:05
Training facility. 01:52:10
This one original. 01:52:14
Thank you. 01:52:15
Sierra Barca Regional. 01:52:16
First responders for public safety training facility. 01:52:18
So I've got one more time public safety plan. 01:52:22
I have a whole scope of work that we put together in the. I'll e-mail it to you. 01:52:24
And that helps us out. 01:52:33
Bringing the whole community in it allows it makes people feel like. 01:52:34
It's not just Lincoln County that's important. 01:52:39
And and it also from. 01:52:43
Funding and moving forward. 01:52:44
That designation? 01:52:46
Help us seem simple. 01:52:48
Is very important, so Sierra Bronco. 01:52:50
Public safety training. 01:52:53
I want to make sure we have one bang up. 01:52:55
So what we'll do on this is, is very much provide you your metric. I'll bring you a project schedule, provide you regular updates 01:53:01
on how we're moving on this. 01:53:05
Perfect with funding and schedules and completion and on all these initiatives. 01:53:10
And you don't have to wait 30 days. 01:53:14
You can send us all an e-mail. 01:53:17
And we'll just be careful after the file. 01:53:20
Yes, Sir, that be all right. 01:53:23
Yes, Sir. OK. 01:53:24
Comments and questions Commission. 01:53:26
Thank you very much. It's exciting. 01:53:29
Acting nonverbal. 01:53:34
OK, so action items. 01:53:38
Three. One more thing. One more. 01:53:42
Oh, that's right, Lincoln. Lincoln County projects and grants. 01:53:47
No, no, we just did wildfire, right? 01:53:57
Projects and grants. 01:54:00
So I'm going to preface it this a little bit. 01:54:03
Yes, very much. This is Ross Coleman. He's our projects and grants. 01:54:08
I'm not real sure what you are. We're going to call you. We have a. 01:54:13
Ross is. 01:54:18
One of our contract employees currently. 01:54:20
To help us with projects and grants and he's. 01:54:23
We're kind of throwing to the wolves, so he's actually doing a real good job fighting them off so. 01:54:27
I'd like to. 01:54:33
Talked about this a little bit. It's kind of a two-part presentation. 01:54:35
For the three of us up here to discuss. 01:54:39
And I handed out. 01:54:42
Before the meeting. 01:54:44
Project list. 01:54:47
And what this is going to be is a living document that we're going to bring you guys. 01:54:49
On a fiscal year basis. 01:54:53
With all of our current projects that we are. 01:54:55
Either have you progress? 01:54:59
Or our planning or whatever, just so that you see kind of like what? 01:55:01
Chairman said a minute ago. 01:55:06
Progress. This is going to be our communication tool. 01:55:09
As we closeout the fiscal year, the encumbered activity balance, we will fill those in as we move into the next fiscal year. 01:55:12
How much we have for a budget, how much we spent, what our balances on it. 01:55:18
Our current completion status on it. 01:55:23
This is also going to help us as we. 01:55:25
Track and manage our funding sources with grants. We're going to have another page on this. 01:55:28
That we bring this back to you for our specific grants that we're managing. 01:55:32
What this shows you very much. 01:55:37
The projects that we have ongoing. 01:55:41
Throughout the county. 01:55:43
And we broke these up into our Rd. projects, OES projects. 01:55:44
Our facilities projects. 01:55:48
So. 01:55:53
As well as this. 01:55:56
That will correlate with this is we have our. 01:55:59
Current ICFP that we'll talk about here in a minute. 01:56:01
So that you can provide us your comments on prioritization on this. 01:56:04
I'd like to skim through this real quick and these two guys will stand for questions. 01:56:11
We have several of our Rd. projects coming to completion here by June 30th with the lower Eagle Creek. 01:56:16
Our Palo Verde is complete. Those are being finished up. 01:56:22
Armagato Crete, the plans are 100%. We're going to have that one chief for procurement here at the next Commission meeting. 01:56:26
Arson does the crossing. 01:56:34
We have folks on the. 01:56:36
Field today working on. 01:56:38
Very much they're there. 01:56:41
Our our Fort Lone Tree, our Chipsville Microfield, those have been complete and he's actually chipping today on that. 01:56:44
You can see our you can see that we have our FEMA. 01:56:52
Projects our cat sees. 01:56:57
Because those are coming the first. We're going to start those here soon. 01:56:59
As our match funding has been. 01:57:02
Promised and. 01:57:05
FEMA obligations we have enhanced. So those are actually going to be starting here. 01:57:09
Very soon as we bring you agreements. 01:57:13
To buy one piece bridge, we have a contract that's going to go up there and look at reinforcing that deal and NRCS is moving out 01:57:18
there to realign that river. 01:57:21
So that one's happening. 01:57:25
If not this week or the next week? 01:57:27
What's the? What's the? 01:57:30
The weight limit. 01:57:31
Trying to approach. 01:57:33
We're going to get the engineers back out there, but we will get that thing. 01:57:35
To where you can get all of your trucks over fire trucks over it with a. 01:57:38
Fairly. 01:57:42
Competent level. 01:57:44
Confidence. 01:57:45
Like Microsoft? 01:57:50
But yes, they it's. 01:57:53
We've gone out and looked at the bridge, Engineers looked at the bridge. 01:57:55
We're going to reinforce this deal to make sure that it's safe. 01:57:58
Because at the end of the day, that's what we're concerned about. It will be safe to use. 01:58:01
So at the $0.36. 01:58:04
It'll be safe to use. 01:58:08
We'll get this here to evalu. 01:58:10
We'll put a number on it. 01:58:13
So. 01:58:15
We have several projects we're planning with our. 01:58:18
Cedar Creek Core, Dutton Tully Bridge Field. 01:58:21
Montana. 01:58:24
We're going to have these ready to go as kind of our shovel ready projects. 01:58:25
Pursue funding. 01:58:29
Our OES projects, y'all want to ask Jeff any questions on road projects before I move on? 01:58:32
I don't know, I'm kind of running through there and I'm not going to steal the Thunder, so. 01:58:38
A good a good. 01:58:43
The comment that Commissioner Turner brought up the other day was. 01:58:45
But the loss of water, water being tighter. 01:58:49
We probably 1 might imagine being more aggressive. 01:58:52
And chip sealing more or? 01:58:57
Asphalt Ignore. 01:58:59
So that we're using water over the. 01:59:01
Well, I'm just putting that out there because I think that's some somewhere where we need to go 80%. 01:59:03
Last I checked, I don't think it's changed. 01:59:10
80% of the asphalt. Remember Jeff? 01:59:13
But the rest of the county needs help. 01:59:19
And we need support. 01:59:21
And that that ratio is just not right. 01:59:23
Because we're all paying taxes. 01:59:27
Yes, Sir. Thank you. 01:59:29
I will tell you one thing, Jeff's offer that we're working on is our. 01:59:31
We're going to offer a five year Rd. improvement plan. 01:59:35
And kind of our maintenance plan. So we're working on that together and we'll bring that. 01:59:38
Is Columbia funding? Possibly. 01:59:41
I mean, that's available for that kind of stuff too. 01:59:43
We're using it down there and. 01:59:47
Rancho Villa does Chairman Fisher Commissioner Jeff Honeycutt, Lincoln County Road representative. It would be a possibility to 01:59:48
use that for Rd. improvements as well because that's what we are doing in Caliber Slopes with the drainage. 01:59:54
Yes, Sir. 02:00:00
Yeah, OK. 02:00:00
So we'll move into our OES project and I'm just kind of running through these. 02:00:04
You see top of the priority list our waterline urban interface. 02:00:07
Water storage. 02:00:12
Our guy is Tower. You actually have that on your agenda today to approve that RFP is it's going to be advertised tomorrow. 02:00:13
We do still have projects on here that. 02:00:21
Aren't necessarily within budget, but that we are still persuading with your communications and. 02:00:23
Oh yes, command vehicle. 02:00:28
Our generators for the VFD's courthouse and Senior Center, we have all those. 02:00:30
And we'll be applying for female mitigation money on that. 02:00:34
Facilities project. We'll talk about these a little more. 02:00:38
Commission Chamber, No, I'm sorry for being late, but. 02:00:41
So sunny Starlight Deals is. 02:00:46
FEMA mitigation might be used for that, for communication. 02:00:49
Don't know. 02:00:53
It's something we could sure look into. I mean, I don't know why. 02:00:55
We're going to put generators structure. 02:00:58
Say it might be covered under Infrastructure Communications. 02:01:01
Yeah, I mean, so communicate, we lost communications. 02:01:04
During the Last Catastrophe series. 02:01:09
One could imagine that mitigating further. 02:01:12
Damage. 02:01:15
Not a catastrophe. 02:01:16
Communication is import. 02:01:17
Worst they can do is tell us no, I'll find out. 02:01:20
So. 02:01:25
Any other questions on OES projects? 02:01:28
That we're kind of moving forward and those very much tied back to our. 02:01:30
Fire readiness plan and some of those that were done. 02:01:34
Our facilities projects. 02:01:38
Commission chamber update. Sub office update. 02:01:39
Playground Fletcher Hall. 02:01:42
Health office HVAC, our purchase of our Clerks building and then we have a detention plumbing project that's funded through 02:01:44
capital outlays. 02:01:47
So and then we move into our projects, our courthouse renovation that we're going to pursue CDBG funding on our ambulance station. 02:01:51
Our fairgrounds covered arena that we have EDA grant for a sheriff evidence room. 02:01:59
He's not here no more. 02:02:03
We went over and looked at that with some architects this week and we're going to have a plan and a. 02:02:06
Testament on that. 02:02:10
So. So if I could go back to the ambulance station? 02:02:12
Are we not from this now? 02:02:16
We are, yes. 02:02:18
So we have $750,000 in capital outlay on that. 02:02:19
We went over there and. 02:02:22
Actually took an engineer on Friday, yes, because we need to do a cut field planner drainage plan to find out where the utilities 02:02:24
are and we're also going to have to provide a foundation plan for the metal building that we're planning on putting there so. 02:02:30
We were moving on that. 02:02:36
We also speaking to the counter outlay. 02:02:39
Grants that we have for the ambulance station, the strategic water. 02:02:42
And some emergency vehicles, we filled out the questionnaires on that and we should have. 02:02:45
Hopefully agreements by your next agenda. 02:02:50
That we can. 02:02:52
Budget those and put those in and start moving forward with that one. That's excellent and it would be wonderful. I know this is a 02:02:53
working document. 02:02:57
This is the best product we've seen since I've been on the Commission. 02:03:02
I dare say it's probably the best we've seen in. 02:03:06
Longer than that. 02:03:09
But but maybe you can you can improve. 02:03:11
The sort of the status a little bit in terms of funding. 02:03:14
And we move in the next fiscal year and I apologize we didn't weren't able to get all the figures on here. We it'll become clear 02:03:18
that as we bring this back. 02:03:22
Our budgets, what we've expended and what our current balance is and that will show that status of what's complete and what's not. 02:03:28
Commissioner Sarah again for. 02:03:34
Yes, ma'am, the ambulance they. 02:03:35
Having spoken to the town of carries out of those out to see if they're willing to run utilities and water. 02:03:39
The we did go over there and meet with the town of Cares also. 02:03:45
They have. 02:03:48
Informed us. 02:03:50
There are utilities. 02:03:51
To the site right adjacent to it. 02:03:53
And they are wanting us to own that piece of property and wanting to donate it to us. 02:03:56
Yes, we have talked to carry those similar. 02:04:01
Coordinating with them is. 02:04:03
For this project. 02:04:05
I don't see the nest on here with their concerns for the building. 02:04:07
It will be on there next time. 02:04:14
Any other questions on our project list? 02:04:26
Have you found funding for the fairgrounds at Festival? 02:04:29
No, that is a proposed. It's not even really a proposed. 02:04:33
So we're going to need to sit down and probably. 02:04:39
One of our next workshops that we have and discuss. 02:04:41
Our current Eva grant. 02:04:44
With the funding that we have in the balance on it. 02:04:46
It's my understanding we have a $3.2 million grant with some match money that we're going to discuss in our next meeting. 02:04:49
Park covered arena project is going to be. 02:04:57
The materials at about $1 million right now for this. 02:05:02
Covered Arena itself that does not include installation. 02:05:06
So there is. 02:05:10
Looking like today. 02:05:11
That there will be a balance moving forward. 02:05:13
That. 02:05:15
Maybe depending on the scope. 02:05:16
Redirect some of that money and maybe. 02:05:19
Have some extra things in there that we would like to have. 02:05:22
Patricia Corvis for Media say that we're allowed to amend the skill. 02:05:25
Well, that is depending on what the scope looks like today. 02:05:30
I have not talked to Trisha about. 02:05:34
Amending the scope but we need to get a little bit further and secure a contractor and make sure our numbers are correct. These 02:05:35
are kind of projections right now. 02:05:40
That it looks like we're going to have. 02:05:44
A little bit of money leftover. It's very much the idea to. 02:05:46
Whatever we do in addition to the covered arena fitted within the existing scope. 02:05:50
So we're going to evaluate that and see what we can do. 02:05:54
Even if it's not this, this is the idea. 02:05:58
Even if we choose not to use media funding, we need to have some. 02:06:01
We need to put some. 02:06:07
Attention to some of the Fletcher Hall concerns. 02:06:09
And that needs to be a discussion that would have. 02:06:17
As we get to that for the kitchen. 02:06:19
You don't have much of anything. 02:06:24
And the way we originally. 02:06:26
Rotosco, but anything that's on the campus itself. 02:06:28
From the fairgrounds. 02:06:31
Could potentially be eligible for some of this money, we just need to make sure it's spelled out clearly and make sure EDA is good 02:06:33
with them. 02:06:36
The electrical PA system upgrades, those are. 02:06:40
That was in the scope and that's something that we're looking at adding to that as well. 02:06:43
And then we have junior bill fundings for the PA system. 02:06:48
Just see if they not really sent money. 02:06:51
In terms of the quality of life, one. 02:06:53
That's that was the one that was held up because of the anti donation issue. 02:06:56
Remember the 250? 02:06:59
That was put on the Renegades invoice. 02:07:03
That was originally capital outlay money I believe. 02:07:10
Yeah, and I'm not even too sure if they receive the yes. 02:07:12
We're still working through some of these. 02:07:20
We're still working through some of these concerns. We will bring this to our workshop and discuss more. 02:07:25
And we're also very much going to include in addition to this. It looks similar to this. 02:07:30
All of the grants that we currently have on the books. 02:07:34
What their current status and closed down expenditures. 02:07:37
So. 02:07:40
This is just kind of. 02:07:41
What to expect in a initial? 02:07:42
Here it is, and then you'll see it as we develop and bring it back. 02:07:46
When the current status is. 02:07:49
Sherry Huddleston, Lincoln County Treasurer. 02:07:53
Chairman Fisher, Commissioner, I was just wondering like on grants or disaster female money. 02:07:56
If the kitchen could be included because if we could upgrade that. 02:08:02
To where we can serve people when, you know, they were evacuated to that or if they held firefighters or something like that. 02:08:06
To benefit, you know, if we could put maybe. 02:08:13
Get some money for that. 02:08:16
To build that facility to be able to house. 02:08:18
You know. 02:08:21
Firefighters or evacuees, something like that. 02:08:21
Ski swimmers and the light. 02:08:26
Yep, County Manager will. 02:08:29
So that's a good idea. Thank you. So if we move out of the projects list, I want to hand this over to Ross because he very much 02:08:31
worked on this is our ICP. 02:08:35
I I would like to preface this that this is a. 02:08:42
We need your feedback for prioritization. 02:08:46
This will be what we submit to the state. 02:08:48
Also understand that this is not set in stone. 02:08:52
But this is something that we're required to turn into the state, and it helps us if we go and request grant funding. 02:08:56
So with that, I'll turn this over to us. So all your project titles are going to be on your left hand side. 02:09:01
With category categorizations. 02:09:06
By year. 02:09:09
So the the ones on your your left, you'll see the ranking. 02:09:11
The ranking is just arbitrary that we came up with. We expect that would. 02:09:15
Want to change those rankings? 02:09:19
And so when a number starts over on the left back with A1. 02:09:21
Halfway down the page, that's that's the next year, so. 02:09:26
Up on the top you'll see the funding date, so you have fiscal years 27282930 and 31. 02:09:29
I don't believe we put any projects into 31. 02:09:36
But this is completely. 02:09:40
You're calling how you want this to look. 02:09:42
We can easily make those changes. 02:09:45
Commissioner Serna came and. 02:09:48
Visited me with me yesterday and. 02:09:50
Corrected my inadequacies and so we got some of this stuff fixed up. 02:09:53
For you. 02:09:56
So I can easily now go back in there and I can change those rankings and those prioritizations to however you see fit. 02:09:57
Well, I have a couple. 02:10:11
Off the cuff comments. 02:10:12
You don't mind the wildland urban interface? There is that number. 02:10:15
It might be a answer. 02:10:22
And I'm just talking now I want. 02:10:25
I want the Commission to weigh in on this as a whole. 02:10:28
The evidence building is something we've been talking about for some time. It needs to happen. 02:10:31
My L value bridge replacement. 02:10:36
I think that can go down now that. 02:10:42
Other funds. 02:10:45
Hello, make a recommendation with your comment. 02:10:49
Is as we're going to seek some special funding from dot for these bridges, it might be good to leave them as a higher rank. 02:10:53
Even though with us reinforcing it. 02:11:00
The Regional Fire Response training center. 02:11:05
Miss named will change the change that name your. 02:11:07
That that number might might be OK to start. 02:11:13
But I I would see it. 02:11:18
As a higher ranking as well, just in my opinion, I think that's something that we recognize is needed in. 02:11:19
In the county. 02:11:26
It has all kinds of side benefits, right? 02:11:27
The recruitment retention. 02:11:32
ISO ratings insurance. 02:11:34
Et cetera, et cetera, How about with quality? 02:11:36
How about we fall? 02:11:39
Three and five with Ohio Bridge and the Sierra Public Safety Center. 02:11:41
Move that one up. Move that one down just a little bit. 02:11:46
Mr. Chairman, yes, Mr. Wilson. So I see on this plan we have the Fire Response Training Center and also Law Enforcement Training 02:11:48
Center. 02:11:52
At the bottom of that page. 02:11:57
Are we marrying those together by calling it, keeping them separate and? 02:11:59
And building potentially 11 spot with two different phases. 02:12:05
Something like that. 02:12:09
No, it's just a planning document, so I think we should. 02:12:11
Combine them. 02:12:14
And then in the scope of work, be very clear. 02:12:16
You'll see in the e-mail I sent you just broke up. 02:12:18
I just wasn't sure if there was any benefit to. I don't. I don't see one. 02:12:21
In my mind. 02:12:25
Unless we go don't look more specific funding. 02:12:28
For one versus the other. 02:12:31
If we marry them together, maybe we do a phase one and choose that we have a potential for additional funding. 02:12:34
Because if we go up to 3,000,000, I know you said you'd like to see a little more. 02:12:40
Funding for this year, Blanca. 02:12:43
And maybe we do a phase one and two and then that there's your additional funding. It's a phase one and two and two years. 02:12:45
In your plan you could do for 2027 plan and design and then 29. 02:12:51
Construction and they get the amounts. 02:12:56
What's their specific, you know, funding? 02:13:00
Law enforcement transfer versus a fire transit. I would rather be able to go. 02:13:06
Find that money separately. I'm not aware. Yeah, I think it'll make a difference. I'm not aware of it. 02:13:10
I mean when you say. 02:13:17
When you say. 02:13:18
Public safety. That's that's a. 02:13:20
This is kind of a. 02:13:23
Rush and it's it's well utilized throughout the country. 02:13:24
These centers and their fire. 02:13:28
Their law enforcement. 02:13:31
Read an EMS to some degree. 02:13:32
You know, expand, you know, in time. 02:13:35
And and that just touches a lot of. 02:13:37
A lot of groups. 02:13:41
You know, advocates for certain things and you combine them, I think. 02:13:43
The fake. The fake. 02:13:47
Joint training facility, yes. 02:13:49
Yes, and so. 02:13:51
And so when you. 02:13:53
When you combine them like that, I think it gives you a more funding opportunities and phasing. 02:13:55
In the plan. 02:14:00
Is absolutely a. 02:14:01
Appropriate and and clearly I would. 02:14:03
I would highlight the firefighting piece as phase one if there had to be. 02:14:06
A choice. 02:14:10
And then you move on from there. 02:14:12
So, so I think we mentioned that too. I would combine them and I think that the number. 02:14:15
That 3,000,000 is probably the start. 02:14:20
Because you want to call it phase one or two, I don't know. 02:14:23
What is the status on that anyway? 02:14:26
So we had a good phone call with Nick Crockett this week regarding the. 02:14:29
Sierra Blanca train. 02:14:35
His message? 02:14:38
Student Commission is our applications are standing very good. 02:14:40
They're asking a lot of serious questions, which is very good. 02:14:44
And that he is very confident. 02:14:48
That they're going to be funded in some capacity. 02:14:51
The timeline on those is we're thinking about. 02:14:56
August, September, Ish will kind of know if it's going to be funded. 02:14:58
And then with agreements, hopefully in December with those. 02:15:02
They'll know for sure in December with agreements in March. 02:15:07
Is kind of what they're saying. 02:15:10
But Nick's telling us that. 02:15:12
They're asking good questions, which means they're looking at them. 02:15:14
And they've got a very good chance of getting funded. 02:15:17
Thank you. 02:15:20
Along with that. 02:15:25
Something that we're going to bring to you here. 02:15:26
Either at the next Commission meeting or our workshop. 02:15:29
I noticed a discussion of location still. 02:15:35
We're going to bring you layouts. We're going to bring you pros, cons. 02:15:38
For your discussion. 02:15:41
So that we can maybe have a. 02:15:43
Direction going forward on that, so we continue our planning and design. 02:15:45
So when I get some land, if we call it the Shipley? 02:15:48
First respond. 02:15:53
Instead of Lincoln County. 02:15:56
So, umm. 02:16:02
What else? So we're just only cleared? 02:16:03
So we're going to combine these and we're going to take off the law enforcement. 02:16:06
Facility, are we? Yeah. 02:16:11
Yeah. OK. All right, we're doing. 02:16:12
But but we're not forgetting that. That's not at all. 02:16:16
Are you wanting direction of? 02:16:30
Ours re ranking these or. 02:16:32
If you have any further comments, you have an ICI or a resolution. 02:16:35
In your. 02:16:39
Consent agenda. 02:16:41
That with your requested revisions today, we will submit this to the state by our July 18th, July 11th deadline. 02:16:43
Thank you. 02:16:52
How? How important is the OES mobile command unit? 02:16:55
We have one. 02:17:00
Yes, Sir, we do. 02:17:02
Sorry. 02:17:03
And Green One emergency services director. 02:17:04
Chairman, Commissioners. The OAS unit is. 02:17:07
Very vital to this counties emergency services. 02:17:10
The one that we're currently using is 22 years old. 02:17:14
We've started to notice some issues with it we've been. 02:17:18
Good about keeping up with those issues, but we're afraid that as we go on. 02:17:21
We're going to continue to see issues out of that unit just because of its age. 02:17:25
And so that's why we're wanting to try to get the ball started now on replacing that unit. 02:17:29
I noticed the village of Ruidoso has a new unit. Do you know how that was funded? 02:17:35
I believe that they got that through I CIP last year. 02:17:39
And it's it's small. 02:17:42
It wouldn't work for what we need it for, but. 02:17:45
I believe that it was funded through ICIV. 02:17:48
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to see. 02:17:52
Some of these public. 02:17:54
Public safety management. 02:17:56
The higher priority whether you know he has. 02:17:58
You know, the law enforcement training facility, obviously, I think it's probably a priority number. 02:18:03
They're very close to the top. 02:18:08
Priority. 02:18:10
But yeah, when it comes to strategic water storage, I'd like to see some of those public safety issues being lived up. 02:18:11
A little bit higher and including but not related to the alias. 02:18:17
Yeah, I would like to see the regional training facility be #1. 02:18:21
Agree. Yes, Sir. 02:18:29
Now we will make the number one and we'll bump the rest of them down. 02:18:31
Well, so the OAS mobile command unit together. 02:18:37
Discussed with that he would be in the American. 02:18:40
I feel like there's a public. 02:18:43
Concern and I think that it's. 02:18:46
Entirely. 02:18:49
Necessary. 02:18:50
So one could imagine that. 02:18:52
Are you saying? 02:18:54
Superseding wildland urban interface barriers or are we expecting? I think they should be less side by side personally, because 02:18:55
one one hand. 02:18:59
Is the other shares a? 02:19:05
If there's a platform. 02:19:08
Can I just move it to the? 02:19:10
2027 planning year. 02:19:12
And then like. 02:19:15
And then just bump everything down because we still don't have to end in the first year anyways. 02:19:19
Should be 9 in that. 02:19:25
We'll make it. We'll make the OS. 02:19:28
Mobile command unit #2. 02:19:30
In 2027 and 2027, yes. 02:19:32
So. 02:19:42
When I get down to. 02:19:44
The second and last. 02:19:49
Items in the. 02:19:51
2031. 02:19:53
Port Health Sheriff dispatch backed up generators. 02:19:57
Why are we we saying 2031? I think that's a. 02:20:03
Must have right now. 02:20:06
Mr. Chairman, that's listed in 09 in my page. 02:20:08
And and he's he's got it on his on the side of 2031 I think with the 20 didn't want us. That'll be a corruption. His name is this. 02:20:12
3030. 02:20:21
2031's over. 02:20:22
OK, that that's fine. 02:20:25
But having said that. 02:20:27
I think that's that's a need now. 02:20:29
You want that moved up to the public safety stuff. 02:20:31
Yeah, yeah. Well, here's here's. 02:20:34
Here's my confusion I need. I need some some clarification. 02:20:36
I thought we had asked for generators for all of those. 02:20:41
Those units and this is almost redundant. 02:20:44
That's your statement. Document and leave the request to the congressional. Direct spending, and then we put a request in. 02:20:47
With that other program that. 02:20:54
The application was submitted for 4/06 money mitigation funds. 02:20:58
That's that's in there. We submitted for the Volunteer Fire Department generators. 02:21:08
We're going to submit the courthouse and the senior centers on the 4795. 02:21:13
406 funding. 02:21:18
So having these on here. 02:21:19
Whatever the priority. 02:21:22
Will accomplish that. So that's what we're going to do with these generators for funding. This is just a planning document that's 02:21:24
not. 02:21:27
But we can definitely move that up to. 02:21:31
2028 and make it up. 02:21:34
Our priority, yeah. 02:21:35
I guess if it doesn't happen. 02:21:38
Immediately in the computer. 02:21:41
That I have it on here. 02:21:42
We're still very much pushed, but I mean we've we've lost the dispatch. 02:21:44
Any number of times, right, We had to move it to OES, we had to use. 02:21:48
I think our command even at one point. 02:21:53
So, so they they, they work in a glove and. 02:21:56
Obviously the courthouse. 02:21:59
Which is. 02:22:01
And others. We need to have that. 02:22:02
And we did a lot of you did a lot of work. 02:22:06
Was an electrical company in May, right? 02:22:09
It did some analysis. 02:22:12
I think you you've talked to him since. 02:22:15
Is very much they're gonna very help us. 02:22:17
Put together accurate quotes and means that what we're asking for is what we actually need to accomplish what we're wanting. 02:22:21
OK, OK, so. 02:22:27
Clear up, Clear up the confusion by giving us the top five, right? 02:22:29
What do you think? 02:22:34
Top five based off the. 02:22:35
Recommendations from the Commission. 02:22:37
Will be #1 this year. Blanca Training Center number two in the OES command vehicle. 02:22:40
And then we're going to #3 the Wildline urban interface. 02:22:45
#4 is the evidence building of Sheriff and #5 will be the dividend. 02:22:48
Let me talk about what 6 being the strategic water source. 02:22:53
Each week we have it for. 02:22:58
So I'd like you to put on this list also. 02:23:01
The water. 02:23:04
Very good. OK. 02:23:07
Well, that's that's captured within the strategic. 02:23:12
Water plant, correct? 02:23:15
Water storage. 02:23:17
I don't care. Well, I mean, it's going to have to be a well. 02:23:19
We're going to put weather. 02:23:23
There's not enough roof over there to put rainwater in it. 02:23:25
Georgetown until they build your. 02:23:28
Until you build your facility. 02:23:31
If we get if out of that $1,000,000. 02:23:43
We can do that. We'll do it and be able to punch a hole. 02:23:46
Yeah, well, I mean. 02:23:51
I know that other Honda Health would have. 02:23:52
So does the NRCS, so those revenues to. 02:23:55
To make accomplish this mission. 02:23:59
Perfect, Sir. 02:24:02
Are we good did with that? 02:24:03
Was for 2027. 02:24:10
You were moving it up to 2027 number. 02:24:13
Since what was #2 by 2026? 02:24:16
125 says. 02:24:20
This is 20201731 OK. 02:24:22
OK, if we're done with that. 02:24:29
Good discussion. I think that was a great agenda. 02:24:34
Yeah. 02:24:37
This is very important. 02:24:38
Somehow I feel like. 02:24:40
We have to spend as much time on it as we like. We've talked about these things all along. 02:24:41
Are we done? 02:24:51
Manager on this I don't want to commend Ross and Jeff we're. 02:24:52
Kind of our project team and we are you're going to start seeing a lot of progress. 02:24:57
We'll get our procurement put in place. 02:25:01
Just working right now. We're coming up to the end of the year. He's got several projects that are coming to fruition. 02:25:04
And we're going to have. 02:25:09
I think two or three on your agenda for July. 02:25:10
Asking approval to go out the bid. 02:25:13
So. 02:25:16
We're moving on project. We're going to have a lot of progress happening very soon. 02:25:17
So. 02:25:21
I like the forward progress that's happening here in this Commission region. 02:25:24
Very much so. 02:25:33
Looks like a lot easier for all this and more efficient. 02:25:34
It's 1055. Let's let's recess for. 02:25:42
10 minutes. Oh, Mr. Chairman, Yes. 02:25:46
What Robert Biological Unemployment. 02:25:49
I will will convene our regular Commission meeting now. 02:26:02
That everybody's taking care of their biologists and narratives. 02:26:05
The the next item, there were three action items improve. 02:26:11
Special Meeting on 5/1/25 and the Regular meeting 520-25. 02:26:17
There any comments on? 02:26:22
Any. 02:26:24
1 wishes to make. 02:26:27
I had. I had one. 02:26:33
It's very, very minor nitpicky. 02:26:37