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3rd or 715? 00:00:00
You can see this little vampire ring with the. 00:00:04
I think this is important that you're here. 00:00:11
We've changed up the agenda just a little bit. 00:00:15
But all the essential elements are the same. 00:00:18
And we appreciate your attendance. 00:00:21
And we will call the meeting order. 00:00:24
Today is Tuesday, May 20th. 00:00:28
08/30 almost. 00:00:31
And Madam Clerk, would you? 00:00:33
Enough to roll call. 00:00:36
Commissioner. 00:00:43
Here, Mr. Chauvin. 00:00:45
Here Commissioner Wilson, President, Chair Fisher. 00:00:47
Here. 00:00:50
Mr. Wilson, would you? 00:00:52
Conducting invocation. 00:00:54
Borders together today we ask that you. 00:01:00
Please be with us that you've got our thoughts and our ideas and our decisions as we discussed together today. 00:01:02
I pray that as we. 00:01:09
Represent our communities and our. 00:01:10
Communities. 00:01:12
Within our county. 00:01:14
We can strive to. 00:01:16
To do the best for them. 00:01:17
Or we ask that you bless abundantly all who are present with us today, and we ask that you agree with those who are able. 00:01:19
By the order appropriate for rain, for our country, Pray for the rain, for our ground and for our spirits. 00:01:25
We thank you that you're our Lord and Savior, and. 00:01:31
Amenity. Pleasant allegiance, please. 00:01:34
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:01:39
The United States of America. 00:01:41
And to the Republic for which it stands. 00:01:43
One Nation. 00:01:46
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:01:49
All right. 00:01:52
Looking for a motion to approve the agenda? 00:02:05
Chairs to move, items as necessary, move. 00:02:09
Second roll call please. 00:02:18
Yes, Commissioner Wilson. 00:02:22
Yes. 00:02:24
Thank you. 00:02:30
So we're going to start off a little bit. 00:02:32
Differently this morning. 00:02:34
We would like to. 00:02:36
Any public comments? An opportunity for anybody in the audience? 00:02:40
To speak for three minutes. 00:02:44
About any subject that they wish. 00:02:47
And you have that opportunity now. 00:02:49
You can give your report later. 00:02:57
Yeah, we're going to department updates. 00:03:00
It'll be on agenda item 6 even though. 00:03:05
Specifically in there this time it will be next time. 00:03:08
That way we can have a back and forth, OK. 00:03:12
Anybody else? 00:03:17
Love to hear from you. 00:03:19
Yes, Sir. 00:03:22
Do you need me to stand anywhere in particular? 00:03:24
Right here would be fine for now. If you don't mind, state your name and. 00:03:27
Not a problem. 00:03:31
Names Bill Hall live in Ruidoso. 00:03:34
Wanted to address the Commission and county. 00:03:37
Encourage you all. 00:03:39
To adopt. 00:03:41
The FEMA maps that have already been prepared for the flood. 00:03:43
The village went through mapping. All of that has already provided the county with the data. 00:03:46
But as an organ, as a governing body. 00:03:51
You have a choice. You can adopt them now, they're not likely to change, or you can wait till. 00:03:54
Freeman decides to adapt them. 00:03:58
Five to six years later. 00:04:00
The challenge was that. 00:04:02
Is if you are an early adopter. 00:04:04
You can control what goes on within the areas of flooded. 00:04:07
If you have one. 00:04:11
Controlled development, where people go, I'm just going to do whatever I want. 00:04:12
You put yourself at risk. 00:04:17
For not only future FEMA funds. 00:04:19
But the other thing that happens with that? 00:04:21
Is because of how the government works. 00:04:24
You put the county at risk for getting other federal funds, not just related to. 00:04:26
The fires and the floods. So I would encourage you to look at those maps, look at the data. 00:04:32
The county has been provided. 00:04:36
And put it on your agenda to formally adopt it. 00:04:38
Sometime in the next few months. 00:04:41
It will also helps the recovery. It'll speed the process of getting reimbursement from FEMA. 00:04:43
All of that is something we've already experienced within the village. 00:04:48
And it's something that. 00:04:52
Like I said, you don't want to get to the point where FEMA adopts a map and then they go, oh, well, you've got all these 00:04:54
structures that are now built in floodplains or flood ways. 00:04:58
That she did nothing with. 00:05:03
They don't really like that. 00:05:04
To start again, we have to play for federal funds. 00:05:06
But I would encourage you look at the data you've been provided. 00:05:09
Look at that formally adopted. 00:05:12
Thanks guys. Thank you, Sir. 00:05:14
Anybody else? 00:05:18
Going once. 00:05:26
Going twice. 00:05:28
We're done. All right. Thank you. 00:05:30
Period. 00:05:34
The next thing on the agenda? 00:05:36
This is very important. 00:05:38
We're going to recognize. 00:05:39
Three different things in particular. 00:05:43
But the first item is the Memorial Day proclamation. 00:05:47
And I've asked. 00:05:51
Commissioner Prather. 00:05:53
To read the plot proclamation. 00:05:54
Because I think it's important that we really understand what Memorial Day is about. 00:05:57
And and recognize it in this form. 00:06:02
Commissioner Pregnant. 00:06:06
Good morning, everybody. Memorial Day Proclamation. 00:06:07
Every Memorial Day, Americans remember the debt. 00:06:10
Of gratitude we owe. 00:06:14
To our servicemen and women. 00:06:16
Who lost their lives for our country? 00:06:18
On this important day, communities across our nation stopped to remember. 00:06:20
And honor the ultimate sacrifice made by those. 00:06:24
Memorial Day is not a celebration, but a solemn day. 00:06:27
To reflect. 00:06:31
Our military personnel who were killed in the line of duty. 00:06:32
Memorial Day observed on the last Monday of May. 00:06:35
Is a day to honor members of the military who were killed in service, both during deployments overseas or in training. 00:06:39
And in service around the globe. 00:06:46
Originally it was called. 00:06:48
Decoration Day. 00:06:51
And observed on May 30th, 1868, the holiday was proclaimed by Commander in Chief John A Logan. 00:06:53
Of the Grand Army of the Republic to honor the Union soldiers. 00:07:00
Who had died in the American Civil War. 00:07:04
Later it included all fallen soldiers and sailors, Union and Confederate of the Civil War. 00:07:06
Since its beginning, our country has faced many threats. 00:07:12
That have tested its courage. 00:07:15
From battlefields and jungle skirmishes to. 00:07:17
Conflicts at sea and in the air. Generations of brave men and women have fought and died to defeat tyranny and protect our 00:07:20
constitutional. 00:07:24
Their sacrifice has made this nation strong and our world a better place. 00:07:29
The observance of Memorial Day reinforces our nations resolve. 00:07:35
To never forget those. 00:07:38
Who gave the ultimate sacrifice for America? We can continue to rely on our brave, steadfast men and women in uniform. 00:07:40
To defend our freedom. 00:07:47
Unite as a people. 00:07:49
Are united as a people. 00:07:51
We pray throughout. 00:07:53
The world for their souls we also pay. 00:07:56
Pray for the safety of our troops currently serving. 00:07:59
This generation follows an unbroken line of great courageousness. 00:08:03
And unfaltering. 00:08:08
Heroes who have never let our country down. 00:08:09
As we commemorate this noble American observance. 00:08:13
We honor those. 00:08:16
Fell in defense of freedom. We. 00:08:19
We honor them. 00:08:22
In our memory, through solemn observance of. 00:08:23
And prayer. 00:08:25
And with the love of a grateful nation. 00:08:27
Now, therefore, we. 00:08:30
We do hereby proclaim May 26th, 2025 as Memorial Day proclaims. 00:08:32
This 20th day of May, 2025 in carriers, Ozone, New Mexico. 00:08:37
Board of Commissioners, Lincoln County, New Mexico. 00:08:42
Thank you, Commissioner. 00:08:46
Do we have a motion to approve that problem, please? 00:08:48
Make a motion that we approve an approximation. 00:08:52
Please. 00:08:55
Hi, Commissioner Fraider. 00:08:58
Aye. 00:09:06
Aye. 00:09:07
Thank you. 00:09:11
The next. 00:09:12
Item chair real quick, Can I just interrupt? Yes. 00:09:14
The live streaming is having low bandwidth issues. 00:09:17
And so it is being recorded and will be added to the websites as meeting has ended. 00:09:20
But the live stream is. 00:09:26
Not consistent. 00:09:27
Thank you, Madam Clerk. 00:09:30
The next item is is we want to recognize. 00:09:34
Very important. 00:09:37
Milestones Burlington County. 00:09:40
And for in particular. 00:09:42
The Volunteer Fire Department. 00:09:45
As you know, last year. 00:09:48
With the fires and the floods. 00:09:51
We really. 00:09:55
Really benefited. 00:09:58
From our Volunteer Fire departments, a lot of others were engaged in this too. 00:10:00
Both pay firefighters. 00:10:04
EMS. 00:10:06
And obviously the Sheriff's Office and others. 00:10:08
But in today, we want to recognize. 00:10:11
Volunteer Fire Department for. 00:10:16
Achieving. 00:10:18
ISO 4. 00:10:20
Which is incredible. I think that's the first time this has ever happened. 00:10:22
In Lincoln County. 00:10:26
It's a milestone. 00:10:27
It's a goal now that we are going to. 00:10:29
Encourage all our Volunteer Fire departments to achieve. 00:10:32
So I would ask. 00:10:37
That we have. 00:10:39
Jet, Adam. 00:10:41
Aaron, I'd like to see. Come on down. 00:10:43
Please I want to present. 00:10:46
A plaque from the Commission. 00:10:48
Because it's that important. 00:10:50
And if you'll stand, please stand there in front of. 00:10:53
Mr. Chad is a crater. 00:10:57
I want everybody to see this. 00:11:00
This plaque, it's a Maltese cross. It's. 00:11:03
It's a traditional symbol of firefighting. 00:11:06
It says on it. 00:11:10
Presented to Lincoln Volunteer Fire Department recognition for isoclass. 00:11:12
44X. 00:11:17
This is. 00:11:18
Well, congratulations, this is fantastic. 00:11:21
Understand how much we appreciate and recognize this. 00:11:42
See if we can get the other ones to do the same. 00:12:05
That really is a great thing, the amount of training, the amount of work. 00:12:12
These volunteers are put in to make this happen is. 00:12:18
Phenomenal. 00:12:21
The next thing I want to point out to you is that last week. 00:12:23
Was National Law Enforcement Week. 00:12:28
Very very similar in terms of. 00:12:31
Recognizing the sacrifices and really the loss of life. 00:12:35
That our first response, but particularly the law enforcement. 00:12:39
Part of that. 00:12:44
Group, that cadre. 00:12:46
Has suffered and and and. 00:12:49
And all of the sacrifices that they make and so. 00:12:51
We want to make sure that we recognize. 00:12:55
Law enforcement, particularly in this county. 00:12:59
And particularly our Sheriff's Office. 00:13:02
But it also includes, there's also Kathy Tanvia Desso. 00:13:04
The village and the Downs. 00:13:09
So we wanted to make sure that. 00:13:11
That we mentioned that as well. 00:13:14
Also I want to mention. 00:13:16
That the Bonita Fire Department. 00:13:20
As well as nogal. 00:13:23
And the Office of Emergency Services put out a fire, Philadelphia fire, which is near Bonita Lake. 00:13:25
And it was brought to my attention from. 00:13:32
The undersheriff in particular. 00:13:36
How proud he was of the response, and how quick. 00:13:38
That that fire was put out, it could have been a horrible tragedy for this county again. 00:13:41
Don't know how it started. I talked to Aaron. 00:13:47
Before the meeting. 00:13:50
But it was of suspicious origin and. 00:13:52
Where it started. 00:13:55
Had it not been put out in as timely a fashion? 00:13:57
As it was, it could have been another tragedy for. 00:14:00
The county and the people that live here. 00:14:04
So thanks again. 00:14:07
One other thing about Law Enforcement Week, you know we lost. 00:14:09
Much earlier in the month. 00:14:15
A very valued employee. 00:14:17
Really. A family member? 00:14:19
Particularly for the Sheriff's Office, Amy. 00:14:21
And. 00:14:25
Last Friday, I had the privilege. 00:14:27
In the honor of being one of. 00:14:30
Many participants. 00:14:32
In her memorial service, which was held down in Tula Rosa. 00:14:34
And I mean, I don't know how many. 00:14:40
Police and law enforcement vehicles we had. 00:14:45
The candles lit up. 00:14:49
Virtually every. 00:14:51
Thing that ran for Lincoln County Sheriff's Office was down there. 00:14:53
We had emergency services down there with care so. 00:14:58
Fire truck down there and and an ambulance. 00:15:02
Of course the OES was there. 00:15:05
And then other agencies, State Patrol, etc. 00:15:07
Those kinds of things don't happen. 00:15:11
Without. 00:15:14
A high degree of organization. 00:15:15
And I just want to recognize Yvonne Patty for all her hard work in making that happen. It was a beautiful service. 00:15:18
One worthy of. 00:15:25
Of Amy and her memory. 00:15:27
And so thank you very much. 00:15:29
Thank you. 00:15:32
Now what we're going to do is get on to some other more. 00:15:37
Less important, but still important business. 00:15:42
And this is the presentation by King Andrews. 00:15:46
So, Jason, I'll let you take that. 00:15:49
Take over on that one. 00:15:52
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, umm. 00:15:54
So as we've stepped through this, this has been an ongoing effort. 00:15:58
Let's double over some. And there had been some. 00:16:02
Of course, not even concerned but. 00:16:09
Trying to bring this to some organization to know exactly where we are and how the process works with our. 00:16:10
Reimbursements of FEMA and DHSCM. 00:16:16
So. 00:16:19
King is our. 00:16:21
Consultant for our FEMA effort. 00:16:23
And we have sat down and gone through all of our recovery and our efforts and money that has been expended. 00:16:25
And I've asked him to kind of come and give a. 00:16:31
Comprehensive view of. 00:16:34
Where we currently sit. 00:16:36
We put in your package everything that we have spent as far as recovery. 00:16:37
Up to date. 00:16:41
During the disaster, which is what we're trying to get back and we've really done a breakdown. 00:16:44
With. 00:16:51
What's been spent and what we're going after as far as the 9,000,000 of the 77 and the breakdown and the. 00:16:53
The split. 00:16:58
The female responsibility, The county responsibility. 00:17:01
So I'm gonna let JD kind of go through this and also I've asked him to come and and before we get into the actual numbers of it. 00:17:03
He gave you all a flow chart. 00:17:10
Of how the process works and I'm liking the. 00:17:12
Kind of. 00:17:14
Summarize that. 00:17:15
And answer any questions and then we'll kind of. 00:17:17
Dive into any questions or concerns you might have regarding any of the. 00:17:19
Provided information we've provided. 00:17:23
Chairman, Commissioners, thank you for the time today to go over this. 00:17:28
The as. 00:17:31
Manager Byrne said. 00:17:34
There's a flow chart that I gave you all this morning. 00:17:35
Oh, sorry, JD King. King Industries. 00:17:39
There's a. 00:17:42
Flow chart here that that FEMA provided us to show you what. 00:17:44
Process. At what point in the process each of your projects are actually sitting right now? 00:17:48
A lot of things there's. 00:17:55
There's a lot of this initial. 00:17:56
Project development, that's already happened for everything that you've got out there. 00:17:58
Minus your mitigation projects. 00:18:02
They've been just initially cut off tonight. 00:18:04
Formally accepted by FEMA yet? 00:18:06
But as far as the. 00:18:09
Initial emergency recovery. 00:18:11
Projects. 00:18:14
Your cat is and your cat B's at the very top. 00:18:15
Those involved in. 00:18:18
Accepted by FEMA. 00:18:19
There's actually two of them have been already passed. 00:18:21
The cost comparisons and the initial. 00:18:24
CRC. 00:18:27
Phase 3 review. 00:18:28
So if you go through the schedule, you can see where phase three starts. 00:18:30
On the second line. 00:18:34
They passed that first. 00:18:36
Level, we had a few questions. 00:18:37
About. 00:18:40
How Contractor written and. 00:18:41
Just in detail of how the process worked, how how the county went forward with hiring contractors, how the county. 00:18:44
Procures different things. 00:18:50
So those were answered in both of those. 00:18:52
Large projects. 00:18:54
The right away contract has made it a little further. It's already now into peer review. 00:18:57
Which is excellent news. That means it's past the initial checks and they're happy with what. 00:19:03
The progress has been made. 00:19:07
And right now just the. 00:19:10
They require a secondary view on all projects to. 00:19:12
Make sure that they didn't miss anything. 00:19:15
So as soon as they go through peer review. 00:19:17
This one, because it's a cat A goes really fast after that. 00:19:20
Because 1 heavy insurance on. 00:19:23
Right away pick up so we don't have to worry about duplication benefits in that nature. 00:19:27
So it goes through. 00:19:31
Quality control. 00:19:33
And then? 00:19:34
Insurance. 00:19:36
There's no 404406 mitigation on this is all either. 00:19:38
Because you can't really. 00:19:41
Mitigate what happened. You can't mitigate picking up. 00:19:43
We're gonna run right away. 00:19:46
So those things go really fast. 00:19:49
And then your HP review at the same point is. 00:19:51
We didn't disturb anything. That was an argue disturbed. 00:19:54
So. 00:19:58
Once you get past this quality control, check this this peer review check. 00:19:59
It goes really fast, I'm getting reimbursed. 00:20:03
And what he's talking about is essentially just what we've already spent, we've expended this funds. 00:20:05
This is your A&B that we. 00:20:10
Spent during the disasters. 00:20:13
And this is your cat A for the right of way. This is all the. 00:20:16
During an emergency, the. 00:20:19
The road department's labor. The Sheriff's Department overtime. 00:20:21
The common. 00:20:25
What's it called the emergency to come in? 00:20:28
If the POC cost. 00:20:30
All of those are in this and then you have the breakdown of your cat bees. 00:20:32
You have the 106 which was the rear dose of bounds. 00:20:36
Portion of our county projects. 00:20:40
Your EOC cost was a cap B. This was all your swift labor, your labor and equipment. 00:20:42
You're right away. Your cat A was your. 00:20:48
Contract labor, everything that we do with so removal during the emergency. 00:20:50
And then you also have down here the 2 Cedar Creek. 00:20:54
Projects that were done there. 00:20:59
So. And that brings me up. 00:21:01
The very good point right now. 00:21:03
Is on your Federal Highways Administration back? 00:21:06
And so that changes your funding on on how that works. 00:21:09
We're currently have a meeting on Thursday to go over that with Federal Highways and dot. 00:21:14
Because with it on that map we have to go through. 00:21:18
To get Federal Highway Administration to reimburse you on those. 00:21:22
We have some questions with them as to why we have that meeting. 00:21:28
Why it's on there? 00:21:31
On their map and not on. 00:21:32
Not appealing or. 00:21:35
Not just the female recovered. It's a classification within dot and if it's becomes a certain classification, minor collector. 00:21:37
That it triggers where FEMA can't pay for it because it's eligible for Federal Highway funding in your Federal Highway funds. 00:21:45
Can't clash. 00:21:51
Yeah, I got, I got 2 questions if you don't mind so. 00:21:53
So with respect to that designation. 00:21:58
From a county standpoint. 00:22:01
Shouldn't be concerned about that. 00:22:03
Yes, Sir. That's that's something that that we're definitely concerned with as it came up we initially. 00:22:06
Pushed back and said no, that's not a collector. 00:22:12
But it is on their map. 00:22:14
And that's why we're meeting with them on. 00:22:17
On Thursday to make sure that. 00:22:19
If there's a possibility to get that removed off that map. 00:22:21
And FEMA can pay for it otherwise. 00:22:24
Because. 00:22:27
It's on federal highways. They have a set. 00:22:28
Fund if they can spend throughout the nation. 00:22:30
And. 00:22:34
We're competing with everybody as opposed to FEMA. 00:22:35
There's a jest. 00:22:38
Throughout the year as Congress. 00:22:39
See Disasters happen. 00:22:41
Federal Highways seems to have a set fund. 00:22:42
Or 11 might imagine we could still get the inverse though through the federal funds, correct? 00:22:45
It's either going to be FEMA or Federal Highway. 00:22:51
One one way or another but but what you're indicating? 00:22:54
Is that it might be more difficult to go through the. 00:22:57
The federal peace, that's what we're trying to understand right now, and it's not anything that any of us have ever done is gone 00:23:00
through federal highways for. 00:23:03
Reimbursement so. 00:23:06
And I think the meeting also on Thursday, we. 00:23:09
Talked with Jeff, Jeff and we've reviewed the road. 00:23:12
We don't feel that Cedar Creek meets the criteria for the. 00:23:15
Collector as it sits. 00:23:18
And that's what we're going to show with our data is. 00:23:20
This road doesn't meet the criteria Federal Highway agreed in. MDOT agrees. 00:23:23
We just need to change the classification to get it back to. 00:23:27
Is what we're trying to do question? 00:23:30
If you all downgrade the classification of the road, though, is that going to eliminate our opportunity for future grants? 00:23:33
Potentially. 00:23:43
But it's also something that has. 00:23:45
As the usage and as the. 00:23:49
The road comes back, we can change classification back. There's an opportunity. 00:23:54
So it's based on your real time usage of the room. 00:23:57
Or so that classification can is set to change so. 00:24:00
It could potentially affect. 00:24:04
For certain, Grant. 00:24:06
Funding for Cedar Creek. 00:24:08
But if it comes back and we start seeing a higher usage, higher traffic counts. 00:24:10
Then we take it back to its appropriate classification. 00:24:14
Any other questions? 00:24:17
There any other roads in the county that have that classification? 00:24:19
That are affected by the flooding and stuff. 00:24:22
There are. 00:24:25
Right now. 00:24:27
The actual Rigoso Downs. 00:24:28
Road is considered that that one is a. 00:24:30
Next, the main entrance to regulatory bounds. 00:24:36
To the racetrack. 00:24:40
Sorry, sorry. 00:24:42
So that one is, but we've got. 00:24:45
We've got a letter back from dot saying that it shouldn't be. 00:24:47
So we're working through that to try to clear that up. 00:24:51
Gatlin Canyon Rd. 00:24:54
He is one of them as well. 00:24:56
That was affected during the bride. 00:24:58
If we can get that one cleared off. 00:25:00
That would that would actually be able to bring back some of the projects you had on the prior that you are. 00:25:02
That one's a little bit more of a. 00:25:08
Typical heavy lift to change. 00:25:10
Because it is a pretty. 00:25:12
Substantial Rd. 00:25:13
But umm. 00:25:15
Those are the three that I know of. 00:25:16
That are affected. 00:25:18
There's also several in the village where also that were affected. 00:25:21
But. 00:25:23
They don't affect you. 00:25:24
OK, so so. 00:25:27
When we look at the. 00:25:30
A through B. 00:25:31
These FEMA categories. 00:25:33
75% is what we're looking for recovery. 00:25:35
For FEMA. 00:25:39
But what's interesting? 00:25:41
To me right now it's a 25% match. 00:25:44
Yes, Sir. So we've actually. 00:25:49
Provided or putting the application. 00:25:51
That that you all reviewed. 00:25:53
Chairman and. 00:25:56
That application is waiting for July 1st. 00:25:57
To for the new funding to be released for grant match money. 00:26:01
That application is sitting in or sitting in DFA right now. 00:26:06
Waiting for that. 00:26:10
Do we have any insight as to? 00:26:12
How that's going to be looked upon by. 00:26:15
By a DFA I. 00:26:17
I don't have any indication that they won't approve it. 00:26:19
Right now there's it's a $10 million fund that they had. Is it correct? There's actually a. 00:26:21
60 two $65 million fund that they have. 00:26:27
Yes Sir, for Grant match. 00:26:30
And. 00:26:32
You're a very small portion of that so. 00:26:33
Continue and it's also you get. You actually get. 00:26:40
They set aside a portion of that for rural communities. 00:26:44
And for tribal communities, so the fact that the. 00:26:47
This area is. 00:26:50
Both of those. 00:26:51
But they look very favorably at. 00:26:52
Madam Treasure, please, you're recognized. 00:26:54
I have a question on the category CS. There's three. 00:26:57
Projects for Cedar Creek, so depending on the outcome of that. 00:27:01
Go either to VMT or FEMA, correct? 00:27:07
Correct. Yes, Commissioner, Chairman, Commissioners. 00:27:10
Say anything Cedar Creek. 00:27:13
Is is definitely going to be affected by that if we can't get it? 00:27:16
Change that that status change. 00:27:19
That would be. 00:27:23
Any of the of the permanent repairs that we're looking at, all the. 00:27:25
And all the. 00:27:28
Asphalt and. 00:27:30
Base course would all be affected by that. 00:27:32
Continued. 00:27:42
You have a question I was going to ask if anyone has any questions regarding any of the expenditures or? 00:27:42
Let me have a breakdown regarding our cat agencies that are currently. 00:27:47
Extended that we're trying to get reimbursed. 00:27:52
Going to some of our other projects. 00:27:57
So so we. 00:28:01
I think we'll continue to want. 00:28:02
Updates as this thing progresses through the phasing. 00:28:04
Right. And then obviously the the reimbursement for the 25%? 00:28:08
Is a substantial amount of money for this county. 00:28:13
So. 00:28:16
This is an ongoing report. 00:28:19
The rotating report, right. So we'll expect to have another one in June. 00:28:21
I know there's been lots of efforts. We've had several meetings. 00:28:27
And it's an ever evolving situation. 00:28:31
And then we go through it. 00:28:33
What we're doing, we did, I'd like to report. 00:28:37
We did get. 00:28:40
The generators for the fire departments and Warrior Bridge put in on the. 00:28:41
4652 which was the two? 00:28:45
So that was due on the 14th. I really want to commend JD's folks. 00:28:50
And Jeff and his dad were getting that put together and submitted. 00:28:53
For the last little bit of money that was out there for some mitigation money. 00:28:57
And now we're going to start working on some mitigation applications for. 00:29:01
The 4795 which is now our South Park. 00:29:05
So we really did get those in. That was a good effort. 00:29:08
And hopefully that that. 00:29:10
There's some freedom on those come through, so we appreciate that very much. 00:29:12
So once again, that actually ties back to your. 00:29:20
Same match request that we. 00:29:22
Requested from. 00:29:25
The FA that. 00:29:26
Request that we put in covers. 00:29:27
Those two projects that he did is that he's talking about as well. 00:29:30
Very good. 00:29:36
And I appreciate the presentation too as well. Let's go through. 00:29:37
The rest of them if you. 00:29:41
Yes or no? So we have. 00:29:42
A bunch of your. 00:29:45
Category C Your permanent repairs. 00:29:47
Obligated. 00:29:50
And I believe actually 1 was just obligated to. 00:29:52
Jeff and Janet. 00:29:54
Work through that. 00:29:56
Yesterday and and. 00:29:57
Went ahead and. 00:29:59
Approved, Uh. 00:30:00
The final numbers on this last one that was not showing as. 00:30:01
The tall Pines. 00:30:06
I'm sorry, the Gavin Canyon area. 00:30:07
So. 00:30:09
That isn't actually Gavin Canyon Rd. that is just. 00:30:10
All the area around it. 00:30:13
All your county roads that are around that containing. 00:30:15
So they worked on that last night and I believe it's. 00:30:17
They've approved it. 00:30:20
To move forward. 00:30:21
And get obligated, but all the rest of your your projects have been obligated. 00:30:23
We are. 00:30:27
Reviewing we got. 00:30:29
The hydraulic studies back from Pettigrew. 00:30:30
This week. 00:30:34
That's all being sent around to. 00:30:35
Jeff, his department. 00:30:37
As well as being much to start reviewing. 00:30:39
What culverts is going to require if we need to upside things or if we can handle? 00:30:42
Doing things. 00:30:46
The way they currently are. 00:30:47
It's probably not the case. 00:30:49
But we conversion these. 00:30:51
At that point to actually show that. 00:30:53
Reason for upsizing and get that. 00:30:55
Get those costs added back in. 00:30:58
As of right now, just the basic costs. 00:31:00
Are a lot smaller than the estimates on these projects. 00:31:02
But we anticipate that going back up a little bit because of the upsizing and culprits that we're going to have to happen. 00:31:04
This is HNG stuff right? This is all 406 and if you don't upsize it doesn't. 00:31:11
It probably doesn't even fit that category, correct? 00:31:16
So that's. 00:31:19
Yes, there's a mitigating. 00:31:20
Festivities. 00:31:23
Does the repair replace? Yes. So yes, we have. 00:31:23
These this currently right now that's been approved is just or. 00:31:27
Created that through repairs and replace. 00:31:30
Now we're looking at, OK, do we? How do we need to size these culverts? 00:31:33
And these drainages? 00:31:36
Handle. 00:31:38
That the projected flows that are going to be coming down. 00:31:39
Due to the fire. 00:31:42
Start so. 00:31:44
So the other thing you don't mind County Southport. 00:31:49
Fire flooding response is that includes. 00:31:53
The salt fire as well. 00:31:57
Yes, Sir, it does. 00:31:58
It's all the same disaster I. 00:32:02
But because they're actually two different burn scars. 00:32:04
They're they're just discussed differently. 00:32:08
But they're they are all still the same disaster. So anything that happens. 00:32:10
Downstream. 00:32:14
Of the salt fire because it doesn't affect most of the counties. 00:32:15
Projects up here. 00:32:19
It it really refers back to that. 00:32:21
Flooding that is impacted by that I just wonder are we missing, are we missing some projects that? 00:32:23
Should be related to the soul. 00:32:28
The majority you have one project that's related to the salt. 00:32:30
That is, uh. 00:32:34
They were still trying to work with on on getting. 00:32:37
It is your bridge on Vaya. 00:32:40
Yeah. So that one we're still working with. They denied us initially. 00:32:43
To get a late. 00:32:47
Entry and we're still working through that process to try to push that project to come back. 00:32:49
Here that that was twinned, Yeah, I'm aware of that. I want to have visibility to that, that kind of activity. 00:32:56
Also an HMD effort. 00:33:03
Might be made. 00:33:06
In terms of. 00:33:08
Of trying to protect. 00:33:09
The Downs from. 00:33:11
Further fires in that area the. 00:33:13
I'm just thinking. 00:33:17
You know off the top of my head is that is that. 00:33:18
Even in the realm of possibility, it's mitigating. 00:33:21
Yes, Sir, we have a fire. 00:33:25
Vulnerability there. 00:33:28
But nothing's mentioned. 00:33:30
So that very bottom project down there. 00:33:31
Your defensible space project. 00:33:34
Visible or a thinning of unburned areas in the principle space is exactly that project. 00:33:36
So that's one going to be that one is going to be in the 4795. 00:33:41
Hazard mitigation application. 00:33:45
I'd like to see us refer to. 00:33:48
Some connection to the salt fire. Fire, yeah. 00:33:51
Because I, I, I think we're. 00:33:54
We're missing a point if we if we don't indicate. 00:33:55
How far West would that project store is? 00:34:05
Where would it stop on the east? 00:34:08
So that project, it would, it has to stay within the county boundaries. We can't go into Forest Service. 00:34:10
Commissioner and. 00:34:17
So it can it can work. 00:34:19
All the way around any county boundary. 00:34:21
What would it start like on the hillside behind J bar J? 00:34:25
Church Saturday. 00:34:29
So there is and I would have to look exactly where that boundary is, but. 00:34:30
Believe there's still property right there. 00:34:35
That is, then there's a county area. 00:34:38
Analyst that would be tribal area. 00:34:41
You know on analytically. 00:34:43
So yes, we can. We can look at all those different things. 00:34:47
It's going to require landowner permission is where a lot of that. 00:34:50
Hinges on so the because you're working on private property. 00:34:54
To protect public infrastructure. 00:34:58
You still have to have. 00:35:00
The permission from the private land owners to get on there. 00:35:02
I want to have a meeting with. 00:35:05
Laura McCarthy. 00:35:08
Next week I believe it is. 00:35:10
And and Nick Smokevich. 00:35:12
And that's the kind of information that I want to. 00:35:15
Gather from them and push. 00:35:17
To make that interface. 00:35:19
Not just on private property, but I want it on the floor service property and. 00:35:21
The tribe. So we'll get the tribe engaged in that too. 00:35:26
It's critical and I'm sure that they would support it. 00:35:29
Yes, Sir, understood that and. 00:35:32
Speaking with with Miss Dash. 00:35:37
Commissioner, the. 00:35:39
There's several people that are looking into that and and there's actually some grants that Forest Service is looking at doing. 00:35:42
To actually do something on that boundary area. 00:35:48
So I know that there's a lot of. 00:35:52
Interest in getting that boundary area protected. 00:35:54
I just don't have a lot of coverage on. 00:35:57
Understanding of what those grants are is put some focus on there. 00:35:58
The next fires tomorrow, remember. 00:36:03
What we? 00:36:05
Anything else? 00:36:08
Know that we we did submit all the costs. 00:36:13
Documents in DL Packers. 00:36:15
So if there's any questions, if you find something that you want to specifically discuss. 00:36:17
Individually, we can we can sit down with you all and discuss those. 00:36:22
And uh. 00:36:26
Go over anything, any questions you have but. 00:36:27
That's every document. 00:36:29
Evergreen Boys. 00:36:31
That we've done so far. Ellen spreadsheets to. 00:36:33
Go over. 00:36:36
Each of those projects are over spin. 00:36:37
No commissioners anything else? 00:36:42
I just have a comment. I really appreciate this level of detail. This is what we've been after for almost a year now. 00:36:46
And so we really appreciate the hard work yielded on this agenda. 00:36:52
Manager Burns, he was the one that really pushed for. 00:37:01
Spending the time and going through the level of detail date. 00:37:03
That was asked for. 00:37:06
Yeah, very good. 00:37:09
Thank you very much. 00:37:10
OK, next agenda item then. 00:37:14
I opened a company. 00:37:18
Mr. Rd. Superintendent, I think this is your presentation. 00:37:20
Chairman Fisher Commissioners Jeff Honeycutt, Lincoln County Road Superintendent. 00:37:38
This is going to be. 00:37:42
Presentation from the structural bridge engineers from Wilson and Company. 00:37:44
They did go out and do enough evaluation of the bridges that the county owns. 00:37:49
The majority of them were in the Hangzhou Valley. 00:37:53
The three that we're going to be speaking to today, we did do a full. 00:37:56
Report on all the bridges. That was 111 page document. 00:38:01
This ones broken out for about 27 pages. 00:38:05
And it will address the L via Loop East. 00:38:09
Bridge, also Tully and Felix. 00:38:12
Month annual bridge. 00:38:15
I have Carlos and Sherman here with Wilson and company. 00:38:18
And they'll be here to answer any of those technical questions that have come up. 00:38:21
Recently, uh. 00:38:26
And Carlos, I'll turn it over to you guys. 00:38:27
Awesome. 00:38:29
Chairman, Commissioners, appreciate your time today. 00:38:30
Yeah, at the end of March. March. 00:38:33
Carlos Segal. 00:38:36
Thank you. At the end of March, from the 24th and the 26th, we went out and evaluated behind Bridges. 00:38:38
That were Lincoln County responsibility and we wanted to. 00:38:45
Provides **** or priority lists of. 00:38:49
The issues that the British had and what many would think recommendations are for repair, replace. 00:38:51
From that initial inspection, initial evaluation. 00:38:57
We came up with Three Bridges right off the top that. 00:39:01
We wanted to to highlight. 00:39:04
We'll we'll go in order. We can start with the now violent E Bridge. 00:39:06
Typically as we we went through the inspection and noticed. 00:39:12
You know, kind of your typical. 00:39:15
Carpet repair and some work that needs to be done at. 00:39:17
According to the Bridge. 00:39:22
I think if we jump to. 00:39:23
I think we should buy there. Page 5. 00:39:27
The issue, the significant issue that we noted. 00:39:30
Was the deflection of the standard Pierre. 00:39:33
We could see here this image is that that pairs deflecting southward. 00:39:36
Which is resulting in an imbalanced load that's being applied to that. 00:39:40
To the, to the support, to those, to those piles of that bridge. As we went along with that evaluation and we kept looking, I 00:39:44
figure 2.9. 00:39:48
We also noted there was some section loss on those steel piles. 00:39:53
So this is coupled with. 00:39:57
Data balance, loading and. 00:39:59
Let us the conclusion that we're losing capacity at that, Pierre. 00:40:00
And that this bridge. 00:40:04
In the operating added. 00:40:05
Capacity a little further on Figure 210 shows a little bit more that section loss. 00:40:08
And some of that deflection that we're noticing there at that center pier. 00:40:13
And further on there. 00:40:17
To 11 we're noticing also some. 00:40:19
Vertical cracking in the in the girders. 00:40:23
Which is ultimately or most likely. 00:40:25
As a result of due to that pair movement. 00:40:28
From that deflection appears most likely. 00:40:31
Lowering or dropping a bit. And so that's also causing the superstructure in those burdens as well. 00:40:33
Given all that. 00:40:39
That we were noticed there from that bridge. 00:40:40
We had made the recommendation to remove heavy traffic off this bridge. 00:40:43
And had a low posting. 00:40:47
Are advising to low post the bridge that had between 5 to 10 tons. 00:40:49
I think from this. 00:40:54
What we noted is that. 00:40:55
The capacity of the pier is is in question that we. 00:40:57
Ensure that. 00:41:00
In the public safety that we we keep. 00:41:01
The loads off this branch and kind of restrict it to traffic based on. 00:41:04
Whether it's you pass your vehicles or pickup trucks, but to reduce the heavy load that the bridge is. 00:41:08
Sherman Pearson was. 00:41:13
Actually with us there for that inspection, I don't know if there's anything, Sherman that you'd like to add that I might have 00:41:14
missed them. 00:41:17
That bridge? 00:41:20
No. Well, there is one other condition that I wanted to point out. 00:41:22
Listening Company. 00:41:28
Chairman. Commissioners. 00:41:31
One thing that I wanted to go back to when you go back to page 5. 00:41:34
One thing that we notice in addition to the lean up appear. 00:41:41
Is there is a significant amount of? 00:41:45
Debris that has accumulated on the north side of the pier Which? 00:41:48
Pushing against it. 00:41:52
And in addition to the loss of capacity. 00:41:53
At the pier during the section loss, we also have. 00:41:57
Imbalance condition is. 00:42:03
Being exacerbated by this. 00:42:06
The breed that's pushing on the pure. 00:42:09
Laterally. 00:42:11
What? What was that? What was the grading of that bridge prior to? 00:42:12
Let's let's say in a. 00:42:18
What was the rating? 00:42:20
The design condition was for an HS20 which is a 36 ton truck. 00:42:22
With three, three sets of axles. 00:42:28
And. 00:42:32
So yeah, that's the that, that was the original capacity. 00:42:37
So so. 00:42:41
The damage is obvious. 00:42:44
Needs to be replaced. 00:42:46
Here's here's our. 00:42:48
Several other things. 00:42:51
A standard. 00:42:54
One time pickup truck. 00:42:56
Is about, you know, 12,000. 00:42:59
13,000 lbs. 00:43:02
Right. So we're talking about 6 * 6 seven times. 00:43:04
Yes. So you, you, you were. 00:43:07
You're almost recommending. 00:43:10
That we can't drive one time pickups across there. 00:43:13
From now from from. 00:43:18
From your point of view up. 00:43:20
$0.10 right? 00:43:22
Yeah, my. 00:43:23
I guess. 00:43:26
I'm trying to. 00:43:26
Thread the needle be. 00:43:29
Between public safety and the and the. 00:43:31
The bridge. 00:43:33
And and the ability for people to actually live on the other side. 00:43:35
To actually continue to live. 00:43:40
These trucks are carrying feed. 00:43:43
That. 00:43:45
Trailers with livestock. 00:43:47
So we're going to exceed. 00:43:49
Very easily. 00:43:51
10 times. 00:43:53
My question from an engineering standpoint. 00:43:56
I'm asking for your expertise. 00:43:58
As if those loads are spread out over multiple axes. Think of. 00:44:01
You know we've got 8 tons on a truck. 00:44:05
Distech trailer on the fax double. 00:44:09
Spread out, maybe another 20. 00:44:11
Feet or so. 00:44:14
That's a spread load. 00:44:15
Maybe of 20 tons. 00:44:17
Something like that. 00:44:19
It seems to me it. 00:44:21
Possible. 00:44:22
That we could. 00:44:24
Run in that condition until we replace that bridge within a year or so. 00:44:24
Because when I look at your recommendation, it says something words. 00:44:30
In order to preserve the bridge, we need to derate it. 00:44:34
I wonder if I'm not interested in preserving the bridge. 00:44:38
For longer than. 00:44:41
A period of time. 00:44:43
That you know this is all guesstimates I understand, but. 00:44:45
You know. 00:44:50
If we were going to run a fire truck or EMS trucks down there. 00:44:51
Or just the fact of living. 00:44:55
People with livestock who have to live on the other side and take care of. 00:44:58
Of a property and. 00:45:02
They're going to have to come back and forth. 00:45:04
There's no other. 00:45:06
There's no other reasonable alternative. 00:45:07
For them. 00:45:12
So what am I asking? 00:45:14
I'm asking. 00:45:17
I think we can exceed some of those. 00:45:18
Engineering safeguards that you're suggesting Very. 00:45:21
Very conservative. I understand engineering can't make measurements. 00:45:24
You know, right now I think it says 10 tons on there. 00:45:30
That's just very. 00:45:34
That's efficient. 00:45:38
Well, it sounds very conservative. 00:45:39
One thing that. 00:45:42
So they went into our thought process to come up with that is you look at the section loss at the center pier. 00:45:45
And say you've lost 20% of your cross section. 00:45:52
That means you've lost. 00:45:58
20% of the load carrying capacity. 00:45:59
Of those piles at that center pier. 00:46:02
That doesn't mean your live Rd. dropped by 20%. 00:46:06
Because the bridge still has to carry the entire live load we can't take. 00:46:10
Or the devil. We can't take 20% of the dead load off the bridge. 00:46:16
So instead of our load capacity going down by. 00:46:20
20%. 00:46:25
We're looking at. 00:46:26
Decrease in libel capacity of closer to 40 to 50%. 00:46:28
Which takes us down from 36 tons to 18. 00:46:33
Right there. 00:46:36
And that's not even considering the lateral loads that are being superimposed on this pier. 00:46:38
That it wasn't designed for. 00:46:43
And so that gets you closer to. 00:46:45
I have a question. 00:46:51
Yes. Is there a temporary fix that we can actually do on that bridge? 00:46:52
Incorporated a little bit. 00:46:59
Till we can consider the funding and. 00:47:01
I don't think so, and the reason why I say that is. 00:47:07
It is in a very difficult location to try to fix. 00:47:09
This is carrying. 00:47:13
Basically all blown from the middle portion of the bridge from. 00:47:15
Metal Upstand Lungs Metal stand 2. 00:47:19
As it is the location, I don't know where you. 00:47:22
So. 00:47:25
And that also speaks to your point as far as spreading out the axis. 00:47:26
It would help somewhat, but it wouldn't help a whole lot because there's. 00:47:31
It's still all going to the center pier. 00:47:36
Unless you've spread way out over 100 feet. 00:47:38
To get more of the loads out of the abutments and I don't think. 00:47:41
That's what we're talking about here. 00:47:45
There's two things that we could do to maybe. 00:47:51
Assess how we could. 00:47:54
Increase that posting, but it's going to have to be posted. 00:47:57
At somewhere below. 00:48:00
The 36 ton truck the age is 20 truck. 00:48:02
And the two things that you could do. 00:48:05
Is 1 get it, get in there and eliminate that unbalanced condition that's get rid of that debris that's. 00:48:09
Pushing on the side of the pier. 00:48:16
And that would. 00:48:18
That would at least. 00:48:21
Reduce that unbalanced condition. 00:48:24
So it doesn't do anything for the damage that's been done, however. 00:48:27
Understand. That's understandable also. 00:48:32
So my greatest concern is the emergency vehicles going across that day. 00:48:34
So we have fire trucks we have there. 00:48:39
On the on the West side of that. 00:48:41
Here's a. 00:48:43
A lot of people that live on the other side of that bridge, you know? 00:48:45
So emergency vehicles, ambulances, fire trucks. 00:48:48
ETC. 00:48:52
That would that's my greatest concern about them going across that bridge. 00:48:53
Stately. 00:48:57
Yeah. And that that that's a concern for us as well as we went out and assessed the condition of this bridge. 00:49:00
Elvia, Lou. 00:49:09
Loops around. 00:49:10
And. 00:49:11
About 3 miles to the West. 00:49:14
That with about 2 1/2. 00:49:16
To the West is the other outlet. 00:49:20
Large trucks would have to go there. 00:49:22
And that would include. 00:49:26
A large fire engine, now something like a smaller size. 00:49:29
Fire truck like for example, the firefighting vehicles. 00:49:33
Or service use. 00:49:36
Could probably use that E bridge. 00:49:38
On an emergency basis. 00:49:40
A brush could. 00:49:43
Could possibly go across. 00:49:44
What is the brush trucks cleaner? 00:49:45
Somewhere right around probably 10,000 lbs. 00:49:49
That would work. 00:49:56
So basically you're telling me that? 00:50:00
Look at the get the get the weight off the center pier and all that stuff. 00:50:03
Clean and replace. 00:50:09
Complainant evaluates. 00:50:13
Yeah, yes, to to evaluate this and that gets to my second point, The other thing that we can do. 00:50:15
To put a fine point on the evaluation is to actually. 00:50:22
To see if we can get a measurement of how much section loss has actually happened. 00:50:26
Whether we're on the north side or the South side of 20% goes a long way towards determining. 00:50:31
What that reduced load? 00:50:37
Rating would be. 00:50:39
So I'm looking at your photo right here. 00:50:40
So. 00:50:43
You have you have appliance to this bridge. 00:50:45
And what kind of foundation is set in the center of the? 00:50:47
That bridge, so if we cleaned out the debris on both sides of that center column. 00:50:51
To and get the flow back to the center of the channel on one side or the other. 00:50:56
You could you could reevaluate this bridge. 00:51:00
Yes, you know, I think. 00:51:03
Based on. 00:51:05
You have to take into consideration the current damages there, correct? 00:51:08
But I do believe, yeah, we're able to. 00:51:11
Clean it up a bit. I think it alleviates some of that pressure that's. 00:51:14
Being exhibited on it with that debris that's pressing on the side of it and so. 00:51:17
I think it. 00:51:21
It would give us another chance absolutely to take a look and see if there's things we can do to. 00:51:22
Increase that rating. 00:51:27
As well as, like Sherman said, going out and. 00:51:28
Observing what that sexual loss is and trying to get a more. 00:51:31
A more definite number of what that percentage of that section loss is if we go out and. 00:51:36
Were able to. 00:51:40
To look and see maybe it's not at around 20% is what they're kind of assumed now. 00:51:41
We can go back to evaluate and see if there's there's ways that we can increase that already. 00:51:45
But ultimately, it'll have to be. 00:51:50
Lower than the 36 times that it was initially designed for. 00:51:52
Understandable. 00:51:56
Let's see if we can. 00:51:57
Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Chavez, we are working within our CS right now to get that debris cleaned up and to armor some of 00:52:01
those areas around the pier. 00:52:05
So we want to put that waterway back where it was supposed to be originally. 00:52:10
So that is in the process right now. Perfect. And you have a question. 00:52:14
An operation standpoint, is it possible to put up like temporary adjustable steer? 00:52:20
Like to shore it up? 00:52:26
In the meantime. 00:52:27
German Fisher Commissioner Serna, we can. We need to clean the debris up first. 00:52:29
That way we can see and then of course I would need to get the recommendation from the. 00:52:34
Structural guys to see what would be. 00:52:38
Best practice for that. 00:52:40
But I think the first step is getting the debris cleaned up and get the water flow back to where. 00:52:43
Originally General. General. 00:52:48
Do we have signage up right? 00:52:49
We just, yes, we do have our weight limit signs up right now. 00:52:52
The low gradients are there posted. 00:52:58
Two on each side of the bridge. 00:53:00
So this has to become a. 00:53:02
A major priority. 00:53:05
For users, for those people that live in that area. 00:53:07
So we expect to have something very concrete. 00:53:11
Any other questions on this particular? 00:53:21
Let's move on. 00:53:26
I'll kind of combine the next two I think totally and and. 00:53:28
Ultimately, I think as we went through. 00:53:37
Inspection again, kind of your typical. 00:53:39
Some people care throughout the bridge. 00:53:42
The big issue on tolling was that the the guardrail. 00:53:45
That's fair, and the president is. 00:53:48
He catching from. 00:53:51
The bridge itself. 00:53:52
And ultimately even the configuration of the bridge. 00:53:53
With its double T at the double T beam bridge structure. 00:53:58
It becomes very difficult to attach surveillance to the side. 00:54:02
And so it's a part of our recommendation. 00:54:06
Lots of you know. 00:54:08
Copy my parents. 00:54:10
With the big one for this and the flashing safety feature attaching a rail. 00:54:11
The issue that becomes. 00:54:15
With Tully is that. 00:54:17
It's hard to attach something to the side and so having to attach. 00:54:19
I rolling to the top of the deck. 00:54:22
Is doable, but at the same time the width of the bridge is only 12 feet wide as it is now. 00:54:24
So a typical. 00:54:29
Railing now is about 3, about 1 foot and a half wide. 00:54:31
Doing that on both sides would narrow that bridge down to about 9 feet. 00:54:34
And I think if you look at that policeman Tonya, it's kind of the same thing there. 00:54:38
Railing is is insufficient. 00:54:42
Some of the the timber posts and guardrail is just outdated and. 00:54:45
And not really going to stop a vehicle if something was really good. It doesn't have decent speed. 00:54:49
But again given the the width of the bridges which is around fluffy as well. 00:54:54
Putting a mountable rail on that with. 00:54:59
Reduce the width of that bridge to about we're not even compromised the structural integrity and additionally the the the weight 00:55:02
of the rail would reduce or raining attached as well as it's not. 00:55:07
Most likely not designed to be paying that time. 00:55:13
A more robust rail, which is. 00:55:16
Probably why it's kind of that timber railing that's there within the first place. 00:55:17
So those are the, I think the two. 00:55:22
Well, the big issue on that was, you know. 00:55:25
Like to update the safety features, but how do we go about that? 00:55:28
To try to keep that that bridge with as wide as possible to be able to. 00:55:31
To keep you know. 00:55:35
Something around the 10 foot width. 00:55:37
Standard. 00:55:40
So within our. 00:55:41
Recommendation. We do have a replacement option for the 17 foot wide bridge. 00:55:44
This would allow for. 00:55:49
A 10 foot lane to. 00:55:51
2 foot shoulders and 1 foot 6 barriers on each side as well. 00:55:53
Chairman Fisher, if I could. Carlos, is this a different type of structure than what we're looking at? And they'll buy you. 00:56:00
Yeah, this is a double TV bridge. 00:56:06
You see these a lot with versions that were built in about the 1960s. 00:56:10
And it's essentially a beam and the beam is acting both as you deck at your superstructure. There's no material that's kind of 00:56:15
connecting these views together. It's just kind of. 00:56:19
The two beings really on on policeman. 00:56:25
Convenient. And you can see the separation kind of between the two. It's almost acting. It's two separate bridges. 00:56:28
Ultimately again in in relatively. 00:56:34
It's just the the railing that that's a concern if somebody was to get it if it. 00:56:37
It would really do its job and. 00:56:41
The vehicle on the road. 00:56:44
Structurally, how strong are these compared to the? 00:56:45
The one that we're looking at on the loop. 00:56:48
Li and Luke East. 00:56:50
With the peer. 00:56:51
Well, there's no issue with with low ratings or anything like that, I think. 00:56:53
I can dive into the inspection reports, but. 00:56:57
I don't want to say they were all rated first for that 36 times. 00:57:01
So all of them were built with that Ashto standard in mind with the HS20, correct? For the most part, I think getting back to the. 00:57:05
In the 60s, I think it was an age 20 track, so it was a little bit smaller. 00:57:12
But as far as what they had included in the inspection report, they didn't have any issues with their local super. 00:57:17
We have seen a variety of postings up and down this. 00:57:23
Corridor so we could assume that these were all built to that HS 27. 00:57:26
For the most part, yes. The one exception to that would be bridge. 00:57:34
What I was thinking about rating. 00:57:40
I saw that, yeah. We do not believe that that was designed to a HS20. That's a. 00:57:43
Very own bridge. 00:57:50
And that may be a. 00:57:51
HS15 or possibly even an HS 10. 00:57:54
Looking at the lovely ones that we're seeing for that structure. 00:57:58
I had it. It was. 00:58:03
Just a touch over 17 tons. 00:58:05
For Coatbridge, and that's coming from there. 00:58:07
Inspection report. 00:58:10
I found some old pictures chairman from. 00:58:12
Several years ago that had that. 00:58:14
Coal Bridge, Perry Springs Rated. 00:58:17
Very low, lower than what we've been talking about you. 00:58:19
So I just wanted. I was trying to get to. 00:58:25
Where we could actually put a realistic number to these other bridges. 00:58:27
We'll continue. 00:58:35
Is that it? I, I think so. I think that you know. 00:58:37
Out of the three that that we have listed, the other 6. 00:58:39
We did provide an initial draft. We're still working on kind of refining some of the estimates that we have for for repair 00:58:43
options. 00:58:46
But out of those six there, there wasn't really anything significant. 00:58:50
Outside of your typical concrete repair. 00:58:54
Replacing rail or adding rail? 00:58:57
And kind of getting somebody what to maybe some of the scalar and similar. 00:58:59
You know some of the water issues that we're seeing there within, within the channels. 00:59:04
Well, I thank you. We don't have any more questions I would make. 00:59:12
Comment and the comment is is that. 00:59:15
It's a violent bridge. 00:59:18
We've got to come up with the solutions. We've got to think out of Bob. 00:59:21
And and I would. 00:59:27
Just encourage us to do that. 00:59:28
And see if there's something else. May, obviously. 00:59:30
Clearing out the debris around the deflected center pier, that's important. We all knew that. We we knew that. 00:59:34
Four months ago, at least. 00:59:40
When we went down and looked at it bro. 00:59:41
So that should be done. Should already be done. 00:59:44
But I'm very interested in. 00:59:46
Some of the other options that perhaps. 00:59:49
Commissioner Chavez is thinking about and that's that's really. 00:59:52
Is it possible? 00:59:56
To build some other peers. 00:59:58
In there. 01:00:01
In such a way that we don't. 01:00:02
Impede the flow of the river #1 because. 01:00:04
Caused another problem. 01:00:08
But but also provide a whole worth. 01:00:09
Well, that that center fear does fail. 01:00:12
It'll have something to rest on, sure. 01:00:15
Why? You can imagine you could have some deflection, further deflection of the actual. 01:00:18
The surface itself. 01:00:23
It ends up resting on something far more substantial. 01:00:25
And let her appear. 01:00:28
So I encourage you all to look at those kinds of solutions. 01:00:29
And come back. 01:00:33
To this Commission. 01:00:34
With a recommendation. 01:00:36
Because we have to get. 01:00:37
Emergency vehicles there. 01:00:39
We all have to allow people to live and continue to be productive in their own homes and property. 01:00:41
And this is a major. 01:00:47
Lincoln County project that has to be addressed. 01:00:49
So. 01:00:53
There's nothing else to do. Thank you. 01:00:55
Thank you. Thank you. 01:00:59
We have 30 minutes before. 01:01:03
Public hearing, so I'd like to go to. 01:01:07
Is that permission to move things around? If necessary, I'd like to go to. 01:01:11
Section 3. The action items approval of minutes. 01:01:16
Number one. 01:01:21
Do you have any comments or questions on this, those minutes? 01:01:23
Let's go with the. 01:01:28
18-25. 01:01:30
I make a motion to approve the special meeting. 01:01:41
Minutes for 4/8/25. 01:01:45
Hold on a second. 01:01:47
Yeah, we're going to individually because that up. 01:01:51
I request for my opinion on platform but. 01:01:55
Aye, Commissioner Sarna. 01:02:05
Commissioner Chavez. Commissioner Wilson Fisher. 01:02:08
Let's go to 4/15/25, the regular meeting minutes there. Do we have any? 01:02:14
Additions, changes, questions. 01:02:18
Hearing none, do we have a motion to accept the those meeting minutes? 01:02:24
I make a motion to adjust the meeting minutes for 4/15/25. 01:02:29
2nd. 01:02:34
One second. 01:02:36
Commissioner Thomas. Commissioner Wilson. 01:02:38
Aye, Commissioner Fisher. 01:02:45
Alright, OK. 01:02:48
Thank you. 01:02:51
So special meeting minutes for 4/20? 01:02:52
525I just had a. 01:02:55
I had a small. 01:02:58
What I think is a. 01:03:00
Hopefully a correction. 01:03:02
If you look at line. 01:03:04
Number 10. 01:03:05
3. 01:03:07
Says Treasurer. Treasurer Huddleston was in support. 01:03:10
Of the Sheriff's Department as well. 01:03:13
I think she meant to say office. 01:03:16
I would like to. 01:03:20
See it's offices for church Department, Yes. 01:03:21
There's no such thing. 01:03:24
That was my only exception on that. 01:03:30
You agree you're good. 01:03:34
We have a motion to accept those. 01:03:39
Special meeting minutes as amended. 01:03:41
I will make a motion. 01:03:48
And that we proved a special meeting. 01:03:51
4/25/25. 01:03:53
With changes. 01:03:56
Thank you. 01:04:13
Let's move on to monthly accounts payable payroll. 01:04:14
Report, April 2025. 01:04:17
Miss Guilvera. 01:04:22
Good morning, Chairman Fisher. 01:04:34
Finance Director. 01:04:37
I'm requesting your approval and account payroll and payroll reports submitted. 01:04:39
For the month of April. 01:04:43
We spent $8,156,509.12. 01:04:46
For the month of April. 01:04:54
And by. 01:04:55
5 million. 01:04:56
Just so you know. 01:04:58
$5,432,464.85 went to. 01:05:00
Southwest Contracting for the NRCS. 01:05:06
So I believe. 01:05:10
Running fine for the month of April. 01:05:13
I stand for a question. 01:05:17
We had one check for Wilson and company. 01:05:25
For 14 million 912. 01:05:28
Sorry that that 5 million is golden, right? 01:05:31
For them, OK. 01:05:34
And if you guys notice on your reports, we're using half. 01:05:37
Triadic and half Tyler. 01:05:40
So we're learning how to use the reports. We'll try to get better reports next month. 01:05:42
How much so do we have a motion to accept? 01:05:53
The resolution. 01:06:00
We need a motion to. 01:06:11
You see that? 01:06:14
Yeah, I need a motion to approve the accounts payable payroll. 01:06:22
As presented. 01:06:26
I'd like to make a motion that we approve the monthly accounts payable activity before April 2025. 01:06:29
Aye. 01:06:47
Thank you. 01:06:50
Next is. 01:06:53
Consideration to award P. 01:06:56
24.5 That is 009. 01:06:59
Mr. Morrod. 01:07:03
Presenting uh. 01:07:04
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, Mr. Marauder. 01:07:06
Called Instant this morning, so he's not here this morning. 01:07:09
But with that, we're going to go ahead and present this. 01:07:11
To your consideration. 01:07:13
This is RFP2425-9 for on call engineering, architectural, surveying and environmental services. 01:07:15
Mr. Morrod advertised this. 01:07:23
In the local newspapers and on the website in March. 01:07:26
And then we did. 01:07:29
Accept 6 proposals. 01:07:31
From qualified firms, they were reviewed and deemed responsive. 01:07:34
And we had a. 01:07:38
Committee Evaluate. 01:07:40
The proposals that were received. 01:07:42
And have a recommendation to you today as a multi award to a row award? 01:07:45
All six proposers that submitted to the county on the turn on the. 01:07:49
Essentially. 01:07:56
For the benefit of the county. 01:07:57
Schedule time cost. 01:07:59
It's in our best benefit to have multiple sources of professional services. 01:08:02
So, and this was Mr. Honeycutt's. 01:08:06
Firepiece will let him. 01:08:08
Make any comments on it. 01:08:10
Chairman Fisher, Commissioners, Yeah, we do want to award we'll have there's four engineering firms. 01:08:13
On here and also to architectural firms. 01:08:18
That we would like to award and that just gives us the leeway to. 01:08:21
Kind of shop what we want to do and give us the availability to kind of get things done a little bit. 01:08:26
Quicker than. 01:08:30
We typically be able to. 01:08:32
I recommend that we award. 01:08:35
All things that we scored. 01:08:37
Affiliate that. 01:08:40
That way of doing business. 01:08:42
We've had problems in the past where they didn't have a bandwidth. 01:08:43
And we didn't have what we would call. 01:08:47
Price uncertainty to understand. 01:08:51
We didn't know what. 01:08:55
What the value of the product that we were getting and we had no comparison so good. 01:08:56
I would. 01:09:01
Entertain a motion to. 01:09:03
Approve this RFP. 01:09:06
Mr. Chair, I move that we approve RP24-205-9. Q. 01:09:09
All six responsive proposers. 01:09:15
For the on call engineering and architectural surveying and environmental services. 01:09:19
Thank you. Do we have a second? 01:09:25
And clerk, Bill call, please. 01:09:28
Commissioner Cowan. 01:09:31
Yes, Mr. Wilson. 01:09:32
Commissioner Fraser. 01:09:34
Aye, Chair Fischer. 01:09:37
All right. Thank you. 01:09:38
Thank you. 01:09:39
Very good. 01:09:40
OK, the next one is is similar but different. 01:09:42
Right. So, so this is consideration to cancel our P 2425 that's 007. 01:09:45
And. 01:09:54
Then advertise RFP 24.5. 01:09:55
Dash 01. 01:09:58
0. 01:10:01
And again, this is next. I'll give it to you, Mr. Manager. 01:10:02
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 01:10:05
Yes, like you said, this is one that had been previously brought before you. 01:10:07
It's your April 15th meeting and there was some discussion and questions regarding this RFP. 01:10:13
With the direction to go back and review. 01:10:19
What was on the table? 01:10:23
So. 01:10:25
The recommendation that we're bringing to review. 01:10:26
And discussion is that. 01:10:30
RP242507. 01:10:32
Is in need of some revisions. 01:10:35
To best suit the county's needs and requests for our. 01:10:37
Upcoming workload. 01:10:42
So that we would request. 01:10:44
That we cancel for an RFP 20. 01:10:46
25 That's 007 for electrical maintenance services. 01:10:49
And that we approve. 01:10:53
The staff to advertise. 01:10:56
RFP 2425010. 01:10:59
For on call electrical services, which will be a revised version of the RP that was previously. 01:11:03
And if I might add the intent of that. 01:11:08
Not only is to to fix. 01:11:11
A problem of perceived problem that we had with 07. 01:11:13
But it will allow us to have multiple. 01:11:16
Multiple vendors available. 01:11:19
Different, right? So it's the same sort of thing. 01:11:21
Than we did with with the other RP. 01:11:24
So I would entertain a motion. 01:11:28
To to cancel. 01:11:30
For 007. 01:11:33
And then to advertise. 01:11:34
For 010. 01:11:37
I'll make a motion to cancel RFP 2425. 01:11:45
007 for electrical maintenance and to. 01:11:50
Advertised for RFP in 2425010. 01:11:54
The on call electric services 2nd. 01:12:00
I know you know what to do. 01:12:05
Commissioner Chavez. 01:12:10
Yes, Commissioner Prater. 01:12:11
Aye, Commissioner. Center Commissioner Wilson Chair. 01:12:13
All right. Thank you. 01:12:16
Next one on the agenda. 01:12:20
This is kind of neat. 01:12:23
And we'll ask. 01:12:25
There, I'm going to go ahead and leave something. 01:12:28
Good morning, Chairman, Fisher, Commissioners and everyone. Services record. 01:12:31
So what we're looking at here is a. 01:12:36
Memorandum of Understanding with the New Mexico State Fire Marshall's Office. 01:12:38
So just recently, the Mexico State Fire Marshall's office hired an investigator that lives here locally. 01:12:42
He lives in the Alto area. 01:12:47
This is a huge step for us because typically when we call for a fire investigator, we're waiting for one to come out of Dimming 01:12:49
reserves Santa Fe. 01:12:53
Sometimes it's taken 4 to 6 hours to get a fire investigator to the county. 01:12:57
So this is going to be a huge step. 01:13:02
For us having one here locally. 01:13:03
With that and it helps shut down response times and so this individual isn't having to go to Santa Fe to be. 01:13:06
House, they have asked for us to enter into this MOU to provide them a test at the. 01:13:11
Fire Edmond office which is Copper Ridge. 01:13:17
That way that person can work out of there when he's not responding to calls. 01:13:19
And we have him right there. If he's available, we pick up the phone, we call him. 01:13:23
45 minutes anywhere in the county we have a fire investigation. 01:13:28
Got a question? So this is no. 01:13:34
No cost to the county at all. Now we're just giving them some a little bit of real estate to do his job. 01:13:36
Yes, Sir. And we're going to put him at the desk that's up front by the printer. They're more than happy with that. 01:13:41
Give them enough space to work doesn't interfere with our daily operations. 01:13:47
And he's just. 01:13:51
Kind of an addition to the office. 01:13:53
Absolutely. 01:13:59
Entertain a motion then. 01:14:01
There's another questions. 01:14:03
To approve this. 01:14:05
Mr. Chairman, I move, we approve the. 01:14:07
Among you between West State Fire Marshall. 01:14:09
That doesn't calculate it. Thank you to have a second. 01:14:12
2nd. 01:14:16
Please. 01:14:20
Commissioner Wilson, Yes. 01:14:25
Commissioner Chavez, Mr. Chair. 01:14:26
Aye. 01:14:29
Thank you. 01:14:30
So the next one. 01:14:33
It's kind of neat. I like this as well. 01:14:36
Consideration of Agreement 1547. 01:14:38
We've got Finley's going to give us a brief on this particular. 01:14:41
Agreement. 01:14:47
Chairman, Commissioners. Lieutenant Justin with the Sheriff's Office. 01:14:49
The riddles are down racetrack. 01:14:54
And casino approached us. 01:14:57
A little while back. 01:15:00
Requesting our assistance to work their racing events for the upcoming season. 01:15:01
That probably concludes around Labor Day. 01:15:07
The way. 01:15:12
The agreement was drafted, you know, being similar. 01:15:13
Pretty much the same as any other agreements that we work. 01:15:16
Like or any other special events. 01:15:20
So. 01:15:25
What would What would happen is the? 01:15:26
The deputies would sign up for overtime and it's purely on a voluntary basis. 01:15:29
But deputies will sign up for overtime and then work. 01:15:33
Those those events. 01:15:36
A couple of things to highlight in the agreement itself. 01:15:39
We're not some racetrack. 01:15:45
And we're also down to race track and casino wood. 01:15:47
Compensate the entire overtime cost for the hours work. 01:15:51
So line number 2. 01:15:57
It would be up to 85 hours per identity, which includes. 01:15:59
The highest paid? 01:16:03
Position in the county. 01:16:04
I mean in the sheriff's. 01:16:06
Another thing to. 01:16:10
To point out. 01:16:12
That the Sheriff's Office. 01:16:13
Would would make a complete manager of control of all. 01:16:15
All deputies that. 01:16:19
We're just there. 01:16:21
As preservers of the peace. 01:16:23
As a visible presence to. 01:16:24
To make sure that does happen. 01:16:27
We would be able to respond. 01:16:30
Would we do it in with our presence thoroughly? 01:16:33
Hopefully submit. 01:16:36
Prevent something from happening in the first place. 01:16:37
Any questions, Commissioner? 01:16:43
No cost to the county. 01:16:47
A little bit overtime for the deputies. 01:16:49
And some visibility for the Sheriff's Office and. 01:16:52
Good order and peace. I just have one quick question. Yes, Sir. 01:16:57
About how many deputies per event? 01:17:00
We we would probably. 01:17:02
Have up to four different per event. But like I said, it's it's a truly on a voluntary basis. 01:17:05
If we if we start mandating overtime, we get into the weeds on some other issues. 01:17:10
OK. Sorry I would if there are other questions I would ever say a motion to. 01:17:20
Approve an agreement. 01:17:26
With the understanding that the the race track. 01:17:29
The representative has not signed it yet, no. 01:17:33
But as long we approve this agreement. 01:17:35
With signatures. 01:17:39
Yes, OK. 01:17:41
And if they, if they? 01:17:43
Recommend changes to it will. 01:17:45
Come back, we're only proving less impact. 01:17:49
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that we approve the Agreement 1547. 01:17:53
An agreement with Reed has the Downs Racetrack and Casino and Lincoln County. 01:17:58
Sheriff's Office to reimburse. 01:18:01
Will work overtime for special events. 01:18:04
2nd. 01:18:07
Madam Clerk, please local. 01:18:09
Commissioner. Commissioner Wilson. Commissioner Travellers. 01:18:13
Sure, Fisher. Hi, Motion. 01:18:18
I'd like to ask that we go into a very brief recess. 01:18:20
Till till 10:00. 01:18:25
Thank you. 01:18:31
You know the Commission meeting. 01:18:36
And. 01:18:40
I'm gonna need to go into a public hearing now at 10 AM. 01:18:42
And I'm asking for a motion. 01:18:45
To go into a pub, you're saying? No, Madam Clerk, you don't need that. 01:18:49
OK, we'll declare. 01:18:55
Hearing starts at 10:00, which is right now. 01:18:57
So. 01:19:00
This particular matter. 01:19:03
Is to discuss. 01:19:04
The Ordinance 20. 01:19:06
25.02 amending. 01:19:07
The Lincoln County personnel policies and procedures. 01:19:09
And so I wanted to ask if there was any. 01:19:15
Particular staff comments. 01:19:18
So this particular this particular change. 01:19:29
And the personnel policy, really. 01:19:32
Revolves around one thing. 01:19:35
Besides some. 01:19:37
Glad to have these and some formatting changes. 01:19:39
Which I would like to thank Commissioner Serna and her efforts. 01:19:42
Taking a microscopic look at it. 01:19:46
Cleans it up. 01:19:49
But more importantly. 01:19:50
During our last. 01:19:52
Negotiation Contract negotiations with the deputies. 01:19:54
It became in. 01:19:58
Important and clear to us. 01:20:00
That. 01:20:03
We wanted to recognize. 01:20:03
Longevity. 01:20:06
And the physical. 01:20:08
Abilities that are required of. 01:20:10
Law enforcement officers and maintaining that. 01:20:13
So we put in their contract. 01:20:16
The ability to. 01:20:18
Have an incentive pay. 01:20:20
Predicated on maintaining. 01:20:22
The physical fitness standards which are set by. 01:20:26
Mexico Law Enforcement Academy. 01:20:29
And so that was put in in that contract. 01:20:33
Well, what we didn't have because the deputies do not. 01:20:36
Their contract doesn't cover. 01:20:40
Lieutenants or sergeants? 01:20:42
We wanted to give. 01:20:45
That group of sheriff's deputies, the opportunity to also. 01:20:46
Participate in that incentive and that's all that you see. 01:20:51
In the change. 01:20:55
And the personnel policies and that doesn't? 01:20:57
That doesn't come into effect until 2027. 01:21:00
We wanted to make sure it was in there. So that's that's the change. That's all it is. 01:21:04
It gives them the opportunity to participate. 01:21:08
And that incentive opportunity. 01:21:11
If they meet. 01:21:13
The time in grade. 01:21:15
And it passed the physical fitness test annually. 01:21:16
OK. Any questions? 01:21:20
Any public comment? 01:21:23
On that particular. 01:21:25
Commissioners, any comments? 01:21:31
OK, so now we're going to close the public hearing. 01:21:41
On this matter. 01:21:46
And we're going to entertain a board action. Since we're now in a regular Commission meeting, we can act. 01:21:48
And I'm asking for a motion. 01:21:56
To approve ordinance. 01:21:59
25-02. 01:22:02
Amending Lincoln County personnel policies and procedures. 01:22:04
Providing for the severability of. 01:22:08
You're providing an effective date and end. 01:22:11
Their appeal ordinance. 01:22:14
#2025-01 Do we have a second? 01:22:16
Mr. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that we approve ordinance #2025-02 amending Lincoln counties. 01:22:19
Personnel policies and procedures providing. 01:22:27
For the severability of parts here of providing an effective date and. 01:22:31
The repeal of Ordinance 2025-01. 01:22:36
2nd place, one second. 01:22:41
Madam Clerk. 01:22:46
Commissioner Chavez. Commissioner Wilson. Commissioner Serna. Commissioner Frater. 01:22:48
Aye, Chair Fischer. 01:22:54
Now, since it's not 1030 yet, we're going to go into the consent items. 01:22:58
OK, that is just before in your agenda. 01:23:02
And are there any? 01:23:11
Questions or? 01:23:14
And if you'd like to have pulled out. 01:23:16
For further discussion. 01:23:19
I have a question for the Treasurer. I don't know if we need to pull it out, but. 01:23:27
If we just have enough funding for the lodgers tax request. 01:23:30
Is there enough to matter? 01:23:35
Yes. 01:23:41
I would like to pull out number one. 01:23:47
Good and. 01:23:52
In addition to that. 01:23:56
I was going to say #3 as well. 01:24:00
So those two items I'd like to pull out. 01:24:10
For further discussion, but. 01:24:13
But I think we could entertain a motion to. 01:24:15
Approve items 24567. 01:24:18
8-9 and 10. 01:24:24
There are no questions. 01:24:27
On this item. 01:24:28
Mr. Kerry, make a motion that we approve items 24567. 01:24:35
8-9 and 10. 01:24:41
Has submitted from the consent agenda. 01:24:43
We have a second. 01:24:46
2nd Clerk. 01:24:49
Roll call please. 01:24:52
Commissioner Chavez. Commissioner Wilson, Commissioner Fraser. 01:24:54
Aye, Mr. Sharma, Chair Fisher. 01:24:58
Thank you. 01:25:03
I wanted to pull out item number one because I always like to give our. 01:25:04
Madam treasure the opportunity to. 01:25:09
About. 01:25:14
Good morning. 01:25:25
Sharon Fisher, Commissioner. Sherry Huddleston, Lincoln County Treasurer. 01:25:26
For Monday, April 2025. 01:25:30
Our general fund balance ending within 12,000,970. 01:25:35
$1213.65. 01:25:39
Sitting pretty good right now. 01:25:43
We're doing well. 01:25:45
Our tax collection rate. 01:25:49
As of today, we're standing at 92%. 01:25:52
So out of the $42,053,415.92 bill. 01:25:56
We have collected three. Well, we have left. 01:26:02
Outstanding. 01:26:06
$3,358,927.97. 01:26:07
We did spool our delinquent notices to go out to our taxpayers. 01:26:12
When you school 44,502. 01:26:17
Last year we only had 36, about 3600 so. 01:26:21
That's approximately 902 more delinquent accounts than we had last year. 01:26:24
And I'm kind of thinking that a lot of it has to do with. 01:26:30
The disaster. 01:26:34
And so we're kind of working. 01:26:37
With the taxpayers and calling them and letting them know. 01:26:39
You know, trying to get ahold of them and we do have. 01:26:42
A lot of returns, so people have moved haven't updated their addresses. 01:26:45
And we've had more returns this year than I've seen in the last 21 years that I did. So it it was substantial. And we're working 01:26:49
those diligently trying to get them out, get a hold of taxpayer. 01:26:55
So. 01:27:03
Is anybody hearing this online please? 01:27:04
You know, contact us if you didn't get your tax bill, let us know and we can correct your address and get that going. 01:27:07
So I can answer questions if you guys have any. 01:27:12
Thank you. Any questions? 01:27:15
OK. 01:27:18
I would make a comment I I. 01:27:22
Frankly, I thought we'd be in shape. 01:27:24
With respect to collections. 01:27:28
How does that compare, you know, in terms of percentage, say for? 01:27:32
2324. 01:27:36
For 2223. 01:27:37
I think with the increase in the. 01:27:39
Tax amount bills were arrived at. You know we're right. 01:27:41
Consistent with what we've been. 01:27:45
Collecting SO. 01:27:47
The smaller amounts, a lot of them are mobile homes that you know, got flooded. 01:27:49
They're just taking, you know, they're just, we need to. 01:27:54
Actually, we. 01:27:58
Remove them from our tax rolls as uncollectible. They're gone. 01:27:59
Been destroyed. 01:28:03
So I don't think we'll ever get, you know, those collected. 01:28:04
So we have a lot of, you know, delinquent on mobile homes. 01:28:08
So how do we how do we does the assessor. 01:28:12
Play a role in that piece. 01:28:16
Yes. So I have a mobile home specialist. He has a mobile home person. 01:28:19
We send them out in the field they actually go to. 01:28:24
Every mobile Home Park, they determine if the mobile homes are dinner. 01:28:27
Or if they're gone, they make note of it. They present it to. 01:28:32
The assessor, myself and we. 01:28:37
Determined that you know there. 01:28:39
Uncollectible, you know, they're just gone. 01:28:41
So, umm. 01:28:44
We have a good process, I think, and we work well together. 01:28:45
One might imagine in months to come that. 01:28:49
Those numbers will change. 01:28:51
You'll just pick, you'll take them off the road so that your percentage. 01:28:54
A collection might be lost theoretically. 01:28:57
Because the others don't. 01:29:00
Exist. There's. Yeah, there's. 01:29:01
Gone there are. Are there unlivable? 01:29:04
So they like lower the tax rates. 01:29:08
Nothing. I guess you just remove them. 01:29:11
They are partially done is that the fully done is done. We even remove that from the community so. 01:29:15
And we are looking in the future to. 01:29:23
Present to the board a ordinance. 01:29:26
To where we can start having delinquent. 01:29:29
Mobile home sales. 01:29:31
A lot of other counties do. 01:29:33
And it helps their collections. 01:29:35
And I'll have to get. 01:29:37
Legal counsel and give them the ordinances that we are going to propose. 01:29:40
You end to the board. 01:29:44
You can look at that. 01:29:46
And I think that's going to help us a lot. That'll give us a little bit more. 01:29:47
Advantage to contacting people and you know if we go and red tag their mobile home then maybe they'll approach us and make payment 01:29:51
arrangements. 01:29:55
Trying to get everything taken care of. 01:29:59
I'm anxious to hear more about that. 01:30:02
There was further Commission Commissioner questions. I I don't have anything very much. 01:30:06
I'd like to make a motion to have. 01:30:13
Somebody make a motion to approve. 01:30:16
The financial report. 01:30:18
April stated April 2025. I'd like to make a motion that we approve the Treasures Financial report April 2025. 01:30:19
2nd. 01:30:28
Please. 01:30:32
Commissioner Chavez. 01:30:39
Sure, for sure. Right. Thank you. 01:30:41
The second one on consent item. 01:30:45
Listen, I wanted to talk about there just have maybe. 01:30:47
Miss Guevara. 01:30:51
The Board on is the consideration of the resolution 20. 01:30:54
25. 01:30:57
Dash 57. 01:30:58
I'm going to get an exercise to do. 01:31:04
Finance Director. 01:31:10
On April 8th. 01:31:13
The county receives a letter from DFA. 01:31:14
That they have published their FY20 6. 01:31:18
I'm sorry. 01:31:23
OK, you have resolution 202557. 01:31:32
For budget adjustment and we have the Title 3 funds. 01:31:37
Coming out of. 01:31:41
401. 01:31:43
For 25,000, and this is to pay for the approved budget that the Commission approved this year that we need to come. 01:31:46
It's a remainder of balance that we have to pay them. 01:31:53
And so. 01:31:56
We're not receiving any funds, so it needs to come out of general fund ticket that invoice page. 01:31:57
And then? 01:32:02
The drone expense that we have. 01:32:06
On 5/30 is the grant that Renee brought to us that we received a signed document for many growth. 01:32:08
Food Services. 01:32:16
$12,000 and that shows the revenue coming in the revenue long now on those front lines. 01:32:18
And then, of course, the race track. 01:32:24
MOU that you just approved for 25,000 coming from general fund? 01:32:27
And even though that's transferred out, we're talking about the. 01:32:34
Sheriff, one more time you expect to get. 01:32:38
Revenue coming in for that, but that's just to give us. 01:32:41
That money to pay them before that happens, right? 01:32:44
OK, that's that really was my question. Any other questions on this one? 01:32:47
Could we kindly have a a motion? 01:32:55
For this resolution please. 01:32:58
Mr. Chair, I move to approve Resolution 25-57. 01:33:03
Requested budget adjustments for FY24 25 Budget. 01:33:07
Commissioner Wilson. 01:33:15
Yes, Commissioner Chavez. 01:33:21
Hey, Cortana. Hi, Commissioner Prather. 01:33:23
Aye. 01:33:26
All right. Thank you. 01:33:27
I had a question on. 01:33:34
Item 4. Consent. Item 4. 01:33:38
In the Agenda Explicit 2025 Dash 58. 01:33:41
But in the actual document, this place in five days. 01:33:47
5454. 01:33:50
No, it's the. 01:33:53
The distribution process. 01:33:57
154 something. 01:34:07
I think that's going to be an error on the agenda. It's going to be 54. 01:34:14
For the resolution, that's the one that we're gonna approve. 01:34:18
And have them sign. 01:34:21
So it is 2025-545. 01:34:25
Dutch 54. Yes Sir. 01:34:28
It would seem to me that we need a motion to approve. 01:34:30
2025 Dash 54. 01:34:33
To correct the record. 01:34:35
So may I have a motion to? 01:34:39
Approve Resolution 2025, Dash 54. 01:34:43
Mr. Chairman, I. 01:34:49
Make a motion to approve resolution. 01:34:51
2nd please. 01:34:55
2nd. 01:34:57
Mr. Wilson. 01:34:58
I'm Commissioner Chavez. 01:35:05
Mr. Prater. 01:35:07
Aye, sure, Fisher. 01:35:08
All right. Thank you. 01:35:10
OK. 01:35:14
I think we have time. 01:35:19
Cesar Zamora to. 01:35:23
Talk about your annual report. 01:35:26
On the public hearing. 01:35:29
And precisely you have before. 01:36:01
Sir, good morning. 01:36:02
I'm just going to read this to you guys and you guys have any questions, representatives? 01:36:08
Good morning, Chair Fischer and Commissioners, I am happy to present to you my 2025 assessment report. 01:36:14
Which will you up to date. 01:36:22
On evaluation maintenance slash reappraisal program. 01:36:23
In your package you will find my 2024 sales ratio study. 01:36:27
2025 net new evaluation report. 01:36:31
Actually, compensatory evaluation report. 01:36:34
Lifestyle evaluation report. 01:36:37
And my report on the South Fork fire slash flood. 01:36:39
Exhibit 1 is my sales ratio result for improved residential properties. 01:36:43
This report enables yourself to evaluate the level of current assessed values of residential improvement properties. 01:36:48
Market sales. 01:36:54
This report is required by property tax division and is used to determine property values and account need to be adjust. 01:36:56
Correct values As for 735 NMSA. 01:37:02
Yes, that's 2024 Salem ratio. 01:37:07
Residential sales make sure which is our assessed value compared to market sales was 64.150%. 01:37:10
The years, Years. 01:37:17
Prior years leading regionals were as follows. 01:37:19
In 2023 was 63%. 01:37:22
2020, two 65% and 2021 when we were at 71%. 01:37:25
The low ratio of assessed values to sales prices indicates that our values are well below market levels. 01:37:31
Here's the misinformation. Residential property values were increased by the statutory statutorily allowable 3%. 01:37:36
Exhibit 2 is my celebration racial report for vacant land, non residential. 01:37:46
This report enables us to evaluate the level of current assessed values of vacant non residential properties to market sales. 01:37:51
As before is required by property tax division as youth earn is the property values in the county need to be adjusted to maintain 01:37:59
permit and correct values as per nicely 735 months. 01:38:04
The Assessor 2024 vacant land sales ratio was 63.770%. 01:38:10
Higher unit weight median ratio was 67%. 01:38:17
Hello, ratio of assessed values to stay on the vacant land indicates that our values are well below market levels. 01:38:21
Recession's office did increase values for vacant properties that sold. 01:38:27
As part of our reappraisal plan, we plan to formulate land studies of homogeneous neighborhoods. 01:38:31
And areas which will allow us to create valuation models for vacant properties. 01:38:36
He will pay close attention to market trends in areas that were involved in the fire and floods to determine if further evaluation 01:38:41
investments need to be made. 01:38:44
Exhibit 3 is a breakdown of livestock values by. 01:38:50
For Lincoln County from 2024 through 2025. 01:38:53
HTD provides. 01:38:58
Livestock rings to our office on a manual basis. 01:39:00
These rates are calculated by the Mexico livestock. 01:39:03
For applied valuations are not predictable. 01:39:06
Assessment office valuation methodologies. 01:39:10
All districts saw an increase in value except for the following. 01:39:13
13 out which is Corona outside of Corona. 01:39:17
28 in epitome and 5 minutes. 01:39:21
These losses were due to a decrease in the number of livestock rendered. 01:39:25
Compared to last year's livestock numbers, there's an overall increase. 01:39:29
Of value and value of $3,066,096. 01:39:35
And value. 01:39:40
Or 11 million when you have $13 in tax. 01:39:42
Exit 4 is my 2025 net new valuation report. 01:39:47
The spreadsheet is used to track the new construction value by district and is used primarily in the development of tax rates. 01:39:52
These values are reported to the state and the Assessors Evaluation certification. 01:39:59
The photos are broken down by school district and further by residential and non residential values. 01:40:04
The county wide total net new taxable valuation increase is $23,997,625. 01:40:09
Exit 5 is my 2025 contributory value. 01:40:18
Valuation Report. 01:40:23
The spreadsheet tracks all the value. 01:40:25
Or decreases by school districts. 01:40:27
The values and changes are in the results of building permits. 01:40:30
Sales of properties which are adjusted to market. 01:40:33
The result of protest increases in valuation of residential property from incurring correct values. 01:40:36
And the reinspection during the reappraisal process. 01:40:42
That's all. Those are broken down by school district. 01:40:46
The values are then broken down further within the school district by residential and non residential values. 01:40:48
The county wide total Conservatory value. 01:40:54
Language increase was $5,034,463. 01:40:56
Exhibit 6 is my 2025 five year valuation and maintenance plan. 01:41:03
This is a detailed plan that outlines the steps. 01:41:08
That the Assessor's office will use in completing a sign inspection of all properties located in Lincoln County. 01:41:10
We are currently on year three of our five year reappraisal plan. 01:41:16
Are we appraisal was obviously delayed in 2024 in Southport and. 01:41:21
Fires and floods. 01:41:27
Our original plan was to inspect all properties in the Ruidoso Ruidoso Downs areas after the completion of the commercial recheck 01:41:28
and those same areas. 01:41:32
The devastation that those areas have occurred, we have postponed the reappraisal of this area until the calendar year 2027. 01:41:37
Is it 7 is the latest breakdown of value? 01:41:45
Value slash gain in relation to the South Park fire. 01:41:49
Influence This data is of great importance moving forward with interesting value and tax revenue losses in School District 28 out. 01:41:52
On the residential and non residential sites. 01:42:00
Many argue on the residential side on these. 01:42:03
Read him on the non residential site only and 35 on the non residential side only. 01:42:06
We will continue to deal with the fallout from the firing floods. 01:42:13
As market trends are created for those areas, it's very possible that we may need to adjust flood and fire affected properties 01:42:16
values even lower. 01:42:20
We also anticipate further valuation based erosion. 01:42:24
The percentage of disabled veterans exemption would take effect in 2026. 01:42:27
The amount of loss is unknown as there are too many variables to consider with that type of exemption. 01:42:34
Has a 5/6/2025 our overall net taxable valuation. 01:42:40
At 1,000,718 million. 01:42:44
166,202 dollars. 01:42:47
An overall increase of 4 million. 01:42:51
542,611 dollars. 01:42:53
In conclusion, I would like to take some time to thank my staff for all of their hard work. 01:42:58
The monumental task of tracking through, inspecting, taking photographs of and revaluing thousands of properties is unprecedented 01:43:03
precedent in our office history. 01:43:07
We offer our Hebrews. 01:43:13
And all of this to those who work. Everybody devastated. 01:43:15
Fire influence. 01:43:17
I'm open to interest. 01:43:25
Misters any questions? 01:43:28
I've got a couple. 01:43:31
So I was amazed at the. 01:43:33
The increase in livestock. 01:43:37
Is that numbers? 01:43:41
Types. I mean, is it? 01:43:43
Cattle prices have gone up. 01:43:44
Is that it? 01:43:47
Yes, so. 01:43:48
Apparently, like I said, it means that numbers were calculated by the livestock board. I don't know how it calculated. No, no I 01:43:50
know but what I guess my question maybe can't answer this. 01:43:55
Have the number of cattle. 01:44:00
Got up in the county. 01:44:04
Words of horses. 01:44:05
Do you have any idea? 01:44:07
Because I noticed the Hondo Valley was particularly. 01:44:11
Had a particularly large increase. 01:44:14
I'm not sure if that's. 01:44:18
Yeah, I don't have those numbers in front of me. 01:44:27
I can get that for you though. 01:44:30
Again, sometimes it's just adventurous, I think. 01:44:32
You want to know where the economy is moving. 01:44:34
It's interesting too, that Corona. 01:44:37
Has fewer livestock. 01:44:40
I wonder wonder why do you have? 01:44:42
Mr. Wilson and I do on that, Mr. Chairman, I don't have. 01:44:45
Specific. 01:44:48
What the sisters doing? I would imagine that the increases. 01:44:49
Come from the value of the last time, not necessarily the number the livestock inside in the corona out. 01:44:52
Those two areas are reduction in office. 01:45:03
And any other interesting thing is quite quite a large increase in just. 01:45:10
Raw real estate values. 01:45:14
Right. And so you, you commented, you commented on. 01:45:16
How you thinking that some of the. 01:45:21
Devastation that we experienced last year is going to. 01:45:24
Those values, but you haven't seen an indication of that, have you? 01:45:27
Lots of our initial, our initial. 01:45:32
Data studies haven't shown much of A decrease, but the problem that we're having is. 01:45:35
There's not a lot of sales in those areas either and that's what our values are based on our market sales within those fire and 01:45:41
flood effective areas. 01:45:44
To be honest, there's not a lot of people in there. 01:45:48
That's one of the issues we're having. There's only three methodologies to to assessing properties as the income, the cost and 01:45:51
the. 01:45:54
Sales comparison approach and. 01:45:58
The only one that will apply would be the sales comparison approach. 01:46:01
So we're just hoping that somebody starts selling some topics start moving and. 01:46:04
But but. 01:46:08
Permits permitting seems to be up though, right? There's a lot of building going on, a lot of building going. 01:46:09
Got a new home? They're not going to be cheaper. 01:46:14
We're going to have to look at market trends. That's learning, I mean. 01:46:17
Uncensored they're they're going to be highlighted so. 01:46:21
I think we. 01:46:24
We have a short term sort of bliss. 01:46:25
But I don't see any county. 01:46:28
Is going to suffer in the near term. 01:46:32
Not short term, but. 01:46:35
Near term. 01:46:36
2-3 years out. 01:46:38
Property tax revenue. 01:46:40
I don't see it either. 01:46:43
You don't see that? That's all I had. 01:46:46
Nothing else. OK. Thank you, guys. Thank you very much. Very thorough and we appreciate. 01:46:49
Get hard work. 01:46:58
I really wanted to commend your staff. 01:47:00
For their professionalism and. 01:47:03
Stewardship of protecting the. 01:47:06
Projects of not only our county government operations, but. 01:47:10
In local law enforcement and public education. 01:47:14
Murals efforts are. 01:47:18
Thank you, thank you. I really, I can't say enough about those guys. It's. 01:47:21
Anybody busted the panels and not only to get the fire and float at their properties taken care of, but also to stay up saving 01:47:25
with the sales, with the permits and anything else which brings in the water that means obviously so. 01:47:30
Yeah, huge thank you for. 01:47:36
What? 01:47:39
Very good. 01:47:41
And I'm going to slow walk this adjournment of the regular. 01:47:52
Commission meeting. 01:47:56
30 minutes after. 01:47:58
So we are adjourned now for about 20 seconds. 01:48:05
You. 01:48:19
We need something with a second hand then. 01:48:29
And so this work. 01:48:38
This work has been going on for weeks and weeks and weeks mostly behind. 01:48:39
Closed doors. 01:48:44
Hard work by the staff. 01:48:45
The Commission has been engaged in multiple meetings, both collectively in terms of workshops. 01:48:48
But also individually, as we try to. 01:48:54
Comprehend and understand this process and do our oversight so we're now. 01:48:57
Moving into the public hearing space. Times, 1030. 01:49:02
This is to consider the adopting of the preliminary budget. 01:49:07
Required to do. 01:49:11
In 2025 to 2026 and. 01:49:14
And I'd like to invite. 01:49:17
Treasure wonderful finance. 01:49:19
Director to comment on this budget. 01:49:22
Commissioner Fisher. 01:49:31
Chairman Fisher. Commissioner Sheri Huddleston, Lincoln County Treasurer. 01:49:33
You've gone through everything in the budget. We double checked the transfers, the expenses, the salaries. 01:49:37
And. 01:49:44
You feel pretty good about this. 01:49:45
We did have an adjustment. Billy can talk to you about that. 01:49:47
The adjustment was for the New Mexico Association of Counties. Their costs went up from. 01:49:51
32,000 to 35,000, so we made that adjustment. 01:49:56
Thank you. And that's the difference you'll see in the budget. 01:50:00
But this is pretty much as you had. We had presented it to you in. 01:50:03
Right. I'd like to know that. 01:50:10
The insurance is going up 10%. 01:50:14
10%. 01:50:18
I attended that meeting for the. 01:50:21
And they did, they did load it up 10%, so. 01:50:25
For our argues. 01:50:28
Yeah, that was the only change that was made. 01:50:32
To the budget. 01:50:34
From the special meeting. 01:50:35
So we're going into I guess what the FA is with the -.53%. 01:50:38
So. So there was a. 01:50:44
There there was an article in the paper. 01:50:47
And it indicated that we had a budget of. 01:50:51
About $104 million. 01:50:54
I, I don't look at it that way. I'd like you to kind of talk to that. 01:50:59
If you can. 01:51:04
In other words. 01:51:05
Our budget. 01:51:06
Most of of what we do at the county level is kind of a pass through. 01:51:08
We collect. 01:51:13
And it goes out the door. 01:51:16
And and you know. 01:51:18
That the treasurer's office. 01:51:20
And budget. 01:51:22
Office and all the staff and so forth are engaged in this process one way or another. 01:51:24
It sounds like an awful lot of money, and it is. 01:51:31
But it really isn't. 01:51:34
Something we had control of. 01:51:35
And what we do have control over, I think we do a pretty good job. 01:51:40
Thanks to your great efforts. 01:51:44
Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Sherry Hummelston, Lincoln High Treasure. 01:51:49
So if you look at the 681, the disaster fund, we have over $27 million in that. 01:51:53
In expenses to be expended out. 01:51:59
And a lot of that's the carryover for the NRCS, the 13 million. 01:52:01
And. 01:52:05
That we have for the category C's and that's going to increase as we keep going. 01:52:06
And then also property held for others. So that's the for the distribution that we collect for the. 01:52:11
Municipalities, the schools, special districts. That's over 27 million. 01:52:17
So you know, that reduces our expenses by almost 50 something million. So our, you know, our regular budget is about 50. 01:52:22
53,000,000 something like that. 01:52:30
So those. 01:52:32
Pass throughs as you say. 01:52:34
Is we're the physical agents. So that does look like our budgets a lot bigger than. 01:52:36
What we actually have. 01:52:42
But we do monitor those we. 01:52:44
Are responsible for the expenses in those out so. 01:52:47
That is included in our budget, so. 01:52:52
Able to see them. That's right, you see it. 01:52:55
And, and, and I just think from, from the taxpayers. 01:52:58
Standpoint, It's important if the taxpayers understand. 01:53:01
That. 01:53:05
There are other forces. 01:53:06
In the state. 01:53:08
That that actually distribute and decide where that money goes to. You know, as an example, the school budgets. 01:53:09
That basically go up to. 01:53:15
Santa Fe PED. And they they. 01:53:18
Decide DFA decides where it goes. 01:53:20
And how much? And so on. 01:53:23
And but we're responsible for monitoring that process, but other than that we don't have any. 01:53:25
Anything whatsoever. 01:53:30
I think that's unfortunate, actually. 01:53:33
That is my. Is there any other questions or comments? 01:53:36
Wow. 01:53:42
Then I guess. 01:53:48
If there are no public comments on that. 01:53:50
I'd entertain that. 01:53:53
For sure there's a chance. Talk about budget, the budget process. 01:53:55
Hey, don't complain to me later. 01:54:06
So with that in mind. 01:54:08
We reserve the right to do that. 01:54:15
So. So with that in mind. 01:54:19
Let's go ahead and close the public hearing. 01:54:21
And we're going to reconvene. 01:54:25
Connection. 01:54:28
And I'm looking for a. 01:54:30
Direct a motion to approve the resolution 2025, Dash 58. 01:54:34
Adopting the preliminary budget. 01:54:40
For 25 and 26. 01:54:42
I make a motion to approve Resolution 2025-58 adopting the. 01:54:46
Preliminary. 01:54:54
20252026 Budget. 01:54:55
2nd. 01:55:01
Madam Clerk, roll call, please. 01:55:04
Commissioner FRA. 01:55:06
Aye, Commissioner Wilson. 01:55:08
Mr. Yes. 01:55:10
Fisher Motion. 01:55:12
Well done. Thank you very much. 01:55:17
OK, next on the. 01:55:23
Agenda or update reports and announcements? 01:55:25
What I like to do is. 01:55:29
Let's go through. 01:55:35
Various folks that we have here so. 01:55:38
So how about? 01:55:40
Melody, Melanie. 01:55:42
You have something for today. 01:55:44
Sorry, we don't have you. 01:55:49
Listening on the agenda. 01:55:51
Melanie, Guitarist, Lincoln County Extension Service. 01:56:00
We are getting really, really busy in our office. 01:56:03
Budget hearing day that we had. 01:56:07
Melody was over at Carrizozo for AG Day. 01:56:09
She presented to roughly 185 students and teachers. 01:56:13
About the differences between dairy cattle and beef cattle. 01:56:18
She made freeze dried ice cream and our freeze dryer. 01:56:21
Answer Freeze dried ice cream and talked about preservation methods. 01:56:25
And did that. 01:56:30
We were our office was involved in the chili cook off. 01:56:31
Held it wide oak for Cinco de Mayo. 01:56:36
And so we kind of facilitated that and helped judge as well. 01:56:39
We do have a new. 01:56:44
In our office, you can only. 01:56:45
Work in our office if you're going to start with them, apparently. 01:56:47
Mercedes. 01:56:50
Is an intern for the summer. 01:56:51
And so we're happy to have her. She will be working all the way through the very end of the fair. 01:56:54
She started yesterday. 01:56:59
And we got her started on defensive driving so she can drive a university vehicle. 01:57:01
And I laid out her summer for her and her summers over already so. 01:57:06
So we're excited to have first and we. 01:57:12
We've been, I've worked, been working a little bit on getting some animals packed here and there, but. 01:57:17
Mercedes and I will spend 3 days this next week. 01:57:22
Getting all the animals tagged and validated for all the affairs. 01:57:25
Not just our County Fair, but State Fair, Eastern Fair as well. 01:57:29
I attended a. 01:57:34
Cattle clipping plant. 01:57:35
Clipping and fading clinic over Mother's Day weekend. 01:57:37
Yeah, that was a good Mother's Day. 01:57:40
And so did that. 01:57:44
We have about 25 kids that will be judging and attending district contest. 01:57:47
Towards the end of June. 01:57:52
They're going to compete in anything from rifle, shotgun, archery, horse. 01:57:54
Livestock, Wildlife, Meats. 01:57:59
Livestock, skillophone and entomology. 01:58:01
I started on some of those practices already, kind of. 01:58:05
Going to the different areas of the county so we can kind of hit all the kids. And so I started on livestock and livestock skills, 01:58:08
fun practice. 01:58:11
Meats and wildlife will start soon. 01:58:15
Our shooting sports leaders have been working with our shooting sports kids for the last. 01:58:18
Over a month. 01:58:23
And so. 01:58:24
Doing that. 01:58:25
US, along with the NMSU Wildlife Department and the Corona Research Center. 01:58:30
The end of the month we are hoping. 01:58:34
We're looking at registration numbers fall ago, so we're pushing it out. 01:58:37
A little bit more, but we're hosting a wildlife. 01:58:40
Workshop camp a day long one for. 01:58:44
Older high school level kids, a lot of hands on wildlife type stuff. 01:58:48
It will help. 01:58:53
Kids with wildlife judging if they're interested in and getting into any kind of. 01:58:54
Career. 01:58:59
That stands around wildlife, so we're hoping that. 01:59:00
Works well. 01:59:03
We're also one of the things. 01:59:05
The beginning of the month we have our regional Southern regional Livestock School that we are hosting. 01:59:07
And so. 01:59:12
There's been a lot of the last minute details coming out there and so. 01:59:14
That week we will be setting up. 01:59:18
Doing math. 01:59:21
Melody will be serving a couple of meals there as well. 01:59:22
We have about 90 kids from across the state that will be attending that. 01:59:25
In Captan at the fairgrounds, at the fairgrounds. So we have that on our. 01:59:30
It is on the board. Yeah, we got it on the board. 01:59:34
It was really nice. I sent a. 01:59:38
I I sent an e-mail about 4:30 the end of one day and it was up. When I came through at the Internet, it was up. 01:59:40
Yeah. 01:59:49
And then I may see you guys before then it depends how the rest of. 01:59:50
June goes, but if not? 01:59:54
Then we go into district contests that will be in Clovis during association counties while. 01:59:57
You guys are all there. 02:00:03
Clovis too, so if you're bored. 02:00:04
I think most of the things are going to be out at the fairgrounds, but if you also haven't gotten rooms, I suggest you do because. 02:00:06
There are defiance in Clovis during that week now. 02:00:12
Because of those two big events so. 02:00:16
Umm, that's kind of about it for the next. 02:00:19
Couple weeks so. 02:00:23
I stand the quest. 02:00:25
Thank you, guys. Thank you. 02:00:31
Upper Honda. 02:00:40
As most of you know, my name is Robert Barber. 02:00:55
I'm on the Board of Supervisors. 02:00:57
For Upper Honda soil and water conservation district. 02:01:00
Apologize our. 02:01:04
Staff wasn't here today because. 02:01:05
They read your agenda. 02:01:08
So basically. 02:01:11
We're continuing as planned. There's nothing significant happening. We're working on our weed program. 02:01:14
And making progress with issues budget. 02:01:20
And I stand for questions. 02:01:24
Our second question. 02:01:28
I appreciate you what what you guys do. 02:01:32
I understand we're also going to be reporting. 02:01:35
South Central N Mountain RC and D I'm sorry. 02:01:38
You'd have moved for Laura dot. 02:01:41
Yes, yes. 02:01:43
And Laura called me. She regrets not being here. 02:01:45
Today she had to make a trip to Albuquerque. 02:01:48
But she left me some notes. 02:01:51
To cover with you. 02:01:53
As you well know, we've been working. 02:01:54
A lot of EWP projects. 02:01:57
For the McBride. For the salt. 02:02:00
The South fork of fires. 02:02:03
Currently, 718 people have submitted requests for assistance. 02:02:06
We've submitted 13 requests for reimbursements. 02:02:12
And we're working on a 14th 1. 02:02:16
That will probably be submitted this week. 02:02:18
To date we have extended. 02:02:23
$37,241,892. 02:02:27
With the remaining budget of. 02:02:33
12 million. 02:02:36
$758,107.00. 02:02:37
At this time. 02:02:43
We need to submit a. 02:02:44
Change of signature form. 02:02:48
To the NRCS. 02:02:50
And a letter from the Commission requesting that the signature authority be changed to the new county manager. 02:02:53
And, and I'm sure Laurel. 02:03:01
We'll be working with you guys and working with you this week. Get that? 02:03:02
Happen, uh. 02:03:06
We've continued to receive a great deal of interest in the buyout program. 02:03:09
And we're hopeful. 02:03:17
That the CDBG. 02:03:19
Disaster relief program. 02:03:21
Will help us with the required 25% match. 02:03:23
Also. 02:03:29
We've announced May 31st. 02:03:31
Was the program. 02:03:34
Deadline. 02:03:37
We've identified this deadline on all social media outlets outlets. 02:03:38
The RC and D website. 02:03:43
The Village of Ruidoso website. 02:03:45
Village News. 02:03:47
And NRCS has already. 02:03:49
Prepared and distributed and press release. 02:03:53
Announcing the deadline. 02:03:55
We just received notification. 02:04:00
I think last week or this week. 02:04:03
That we were awarded funding for an outreach and education program. 02:04:05
In 2025 and 2026. 02:04:09
And Laurel will be getting with Aaron. 02:04:12
And the offices of emergency services for this effort. 02:04:16
We also received $100,000 grant. 02:04:21
To assist. 02:04:24
With the creation of a project. 02:04:26
Ready engineering plans. 02:04:28
To revamp the outdoor Education Center in the Smokey Bear Historic Park. 02:04:30
We're also working. 02:04:37
With the park. 02:04:39
On a US tourism grant. 02:04:41
For this upcoming fiscal year. 02:04:45
As you know. 02:04:48
Next year will be the 50th anniversary of the park and they're hoping to use that. 02:04:49
To do a lot of marketing. 02:04:54
In the last two weeks we've. 02:04:58
Seen an increase in inquiries on the use of the ACI, the Air Curtain incinerator. 02:05:01
In fact, I'm going to deliver. 02:05:06
Probably this week. 02:05:09
Thursday or Friday? 02:05:11
To a place on the May Estates on Ruth Rd. 02:05:12
So that they can burn. 02:05:16
And then I've had some interest that we talked about today. 02:05:18
And. 02:05:22
We're ready and can support that effort. 02:05:23
Also, as you're probably well aware of, we've been doing some thinning around Lincoln. 02:05:26
And we should be completing that project around mid June. 02:05:34
Very good. 02:05:40
And I stand for questions. 02:05:41
Could you? 02:05:45
That people know about your. 02:05:48
Air curtain incinerator than it is available to. 02:05:50
Everybody in Lincoln County. 02:05:54
Yeah. 02:05:55
We've advertised it through our website in that very settlement whereas the mountain. 02:05:59
You're correct. 02:06:04
Available to everybody in the county. 02:06:06
And O'terill County as well. 02:06:08
They have to make an appointment. 02:06:12
And make it work with Laura Doff on that. And there's a small rental fee that covers the cost of the fuel. 02:06:14
Plus. 02:06:20
Moving it. 02:06:21
The transportation of that crime. 02:06:22
Very good. And we should put that in part as part of your program. 02:06:27
Other asset. 02:06:31
We have been advertising that in our programs. Very good. 02:06:32
Thank you. 02:06:35
OK. 02:06:36
Well, that's it. That's Barbara. Thank you so much. 02:06:37
We've got somebody from. 02:06:43
The wonderful fantastic. 02:06:44
Blanket force. 02:06:48
Chairman and commissioners, and he's Amanda Guinness, and I'm the deputy for supervisor for the Lindsey National Forest. 02:07:03
So couple updates. 02:07:09
We got about 25,000,000 in disaster recovery funds there actually came down. 02:07:11
And received. So we are in the planning phase of sending those funds down in five years. 02:07:17
With prior to prior we had 10, so it's quite. 02:07:25
Quite a quick time frame to spend that money, so we're looking. 02:07:29
At partnering with local. 02:07:32
Contractors even at the county to get some funds shifted over year old way too. So maybe some through agreements. 02:07:35
So Mark Pentecost is running that. 02:07:42
Team and got a team slowly dedicated. 02:07:46
So comprised of like archaeologists, wildlife biologists. 02:07:51
Engineers. 02:07:55
Dedicated. That's their priority to get this money sent down. 02:07:57
We've got projects ranging and I think it's an e-mail, but we've got projects ranging from. 02:08:01
Recreation facilities since a lot of our. 02:08:08
Cedar concurrence burned down. 02:08:12
So I'm trying to figure out what we're going to do in camp spots. 02:08:16
Going to be relocating them. 02:08:19
Or place them in time. Maybe it looks a little bit different we've got. 02:08:21
Fence replacement. Salvage logging. 02:08:24
Engineering, so culverts and road repair. 02:08:30
And then some. 02:08:35
Unauthorized livestock as well. So we're looking at a range of projects there and our folks are coming up with line items 02:08:39
proposals for each each of the budget listed items. 02:08:44
And reaching out to folks in the communities. We're trying to do a lot of local reaching out to local folks to help us out with 02:08:49
some of these. 02:08:52
And getting some. 02:08:56
Done so this year for 2025. 02:08:58
Client is assessments getting folks in to come and do professional assessments of. 02:09:00
What the lenses deem what we need to do moving forward. And so that's what 2025 will be mostly planning. 02:09:05
A little bit of NEPA. 02:09:12
And then hopefully more implementation in 26. 02:09:15
Is there any any money that's going to be set aside for? 02:09:20
Establishing. 02:09:23
These barriers, these fire. 02:09:24
Area that's not. 02:09:26
In the disaster funds unfortunately where there's some rules and regulations that are associated with this, so. 02:09:29
We can look at treating some of the outside areas, which I think we are. 02:09:35
Prayers with the rules that come with it if you're not sitting in like within the. 02:09:41
The footprint, you can kind of send it outside. 02:09:45
And treating other areas that we don't lose, you know, and I think that's what you're, you're, you're referring to. 02:09:49
The treating other habitat areas within the. 02:09:57
Proximity to the to the virus guard. 02:10:02
So we can look at it. 02:10:04
We are looking at other projects though, aside from disaster funds. 02:10:06
Over the next five years, developing a plan for the for the district for. 02:10:11
Smokey Berry in your district? 02:10:15
And the Sacramento Ranger District on what those. 02:10:17
Fire lines. 02:10:21
Look like. 02:10:23
In the future. 02:10:23
I know that they've got a plan for at least our boundary areas and I think we touched a little bit on the. 02:10:25
Emergency. 02:10:32
Oh oh gosh. 02:10:34
I know you were. 02:10:39
At our. 02:10:40
Oh jeez. 02:10:43
It was, it was just a staff. 02:10:45
Emergency procedure meeting and so. 02:10:49
And so we are that is something that we're looking at in the future, but right now disaster recovery is our number one priority. 02:10:54
For the forest and the district. 02:11:01
Because that money has to be spent and we don't want to give money back either, so. 02:11:04
So we'll be looking at Regina County for especially in roads particularly. 02:11:08
So. So how we can get maybe some funds shifted over and what work we can do together? 02:11:17
So we went into stage 2 fire restrictions on May 2nd. 02:11:25
For the forest. 02:11:30
To no more campfires. 02:11:31
Including those in recreation areas. 02:11:35
The only things that we're really allowing are those if you can turn on and off your mission stove. 02:11:38
And we have Memorial Day weekend approaching us quickly. So that's going to be major for our folks. We have. 02:11:45
A lot of severity folks coming on. 02:11:52
On board from the Wenatchee, from Washington. 02:11:54
Helping us patrol the areas. 02:11:59
Making sure we don't have. 02:12:02
Banning campfires. I know we've had one recently. 02:12:04
You've got extra law enforcement staffed up so. 02:12:08
And we've got extra fire, non firefighters, but. 02:12:11
Qualified fire qualified militia to come on our end to help with airing patrols throughout the weekend. 02:12:14
Making sure we're interfacing with the public and. 02:12:21
Show your friends out there so. 02:12:24
Let's see. 02:12:29
We've been assisting with the there was a fire on Mescalero, the VA incident. 02:12:32
2.8 acres. 02:12:38
He had Air Force service resources. 02:12:39
Stacked up there helping with that incident as well. 02:12:42
I remember a big update, we were participated in Smokey Berry days, which is really great. That was such a great event put on. 02:12:46
And enjoyed it the communities. 02:12:56
And seemed to enjoy. 02:12:58
Commitment that we had there so. 02:13:01
Questions. Thank you. 02:13:05
Thank you, Miss McGinnis. Appreciate it. 02:13:07
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Over here. 02:13:13
Thank you. 02:13:21
Good morning, Chairman Fisher County Commissioner Todd Overview Hospital Chief Executive, Lincoln County Medical Center. Not a lot 02:13:28
to report today. 02:13:32
I got filled for me last month. I think so. But just so you're aware, we did send notice to the chairman, Fisher and the county 02:13:35
manager of our intention to renew police. 02:13:41
That was received by the county and confirmed to me today that the county did receive our letter of intent on that. So over the. 02:13:48
Make sure we'll be discussions on what that looks like. 02:13:55
Who continue that? 02:13:59
A couple things of some great news about Carrizozo clinic. They were surveyed 2 days ago, but OR. 02:14:01
Friday. 02:14:08
I think it's Friday. 02:14:09
By the state. 02:14:10
And received no findings at all on the Arizona clinic. So very excited about that. 02:14:12
Along with Carrizozo though, we are going to do a modification of scheduled with Carrizozo and Corona. 02:14:18
Terrazzo will be a look will. 02:14:25
Both will still maintain the. 02:14:29
The days that they have that we're switching the day so. 02:14:31
Currently we go to Corona on Wednesday. 02:14:34
We're going to be moving that to Friday for that. So what that means is Arizona will run Monday through Thursday. 02:14:37
So right now. 02:14:45
As those Monday, Tuesday. 02:14:47
Thursday, Friday for medical. 02:14:49
What that does is that affords Joe Byrd, who's our new nurse practitioner, it's going to allow us to employ her full time because 02:14:51
she does Corona. 02:14:55
That allow us to have her also work in the emergency room that allows to have a work with Doctor Sunderman and cardiology so. 02:14:59
Instead of being one day, which is a pretty hard job to fill, we've been able to make currents of a full time practitioner with 02:15:06
us. So so allows us to accommodate her schedule to make that happen. So we've already notified Coronav. 02:15:12
And so I think we're. 02:15:19
Everything's good for the last day. We have heard any concerns about that change and date so that it will start in the month of 02:15:21
June. 02:15:24
Those are tipped. 02:15:27
Got any questions on that? 02:15:29
OK. The CT, I know everybody heard the song of our CT. We still are waiting on delivery at the break box. Everything is completely 02:15:31
completed with the ZT. 02:15:36
Except for the breaker box that's still such a Mexico for some reason. So we just can't seem to get it out of Mexico right now, 02:15:41
but we're working on. 02:15:45
So. So we'll see. 02:15:50
And then the. 02:15:51
The last thing, just as a heads up. 02:15:54
I mentioned that we had some issues with access at the caption clinic. 02:15:57
Jeff Honeycutt met with our team and we've been able to improve, put some plans together around that. So just let you know that 02:16:02
that's moving forward. So from that standpoint and back test is. 02:16:07
Of fencing that went along the fairgrounds. 02:16:12
Actually precludes us from being able to get to the water cut off for the clinic. When that was put in, the fence was put on 02:16:15
anyway so. 02:16:19
Just worked with my team to kind of come to the solution on that. And then we're also looking at access around the indices because 02:16:24
it's more difficult to gain, but I think so. 02:16:28
That's all I have for any questions. 02:16:35
Questions, Commissioners. 02:16:38
Thank you. Thank you all. 02:16:43
Wooden. 02:16:52
Good morning. My name is Ross Lincoln County Detention Center. 02:16:58
For my update today. 02:17:03
Last week. 02:17:06
We have the opportunity to show appreciation to our staff. 02:17:08
For law enforcement professionals, we we call it professional professional weeks. That's that's just the week that all law 02:17:12
enforcement is. 02:17:16
Recognized and honor we did some. 02:17:21
Some things like that for our staff so. 02:17:24
That was a good thing. 02:17:29
We're continually improving our facility just. 02:17:31
It seems like that's one of the things that we're always doing. We're always painting, we're always. 02:17:35
Cleaning, doing that sort of thing, trying to. 02:17:40
Make sure that that environment. 02:17:43
Positive for staff and detainees. 02:17:45
Yeah, or count for the last month has been an average of 57 detainees. 02:17:50
We processed 97 individuals. 02:17:55
Through uh. 02:17:58
Through the facility. 02:18:00
We just got finished updating our camera system. 02:18:04
We have additional cameras as well as better coverage those cameras are. 02:18:07
Higher quality. 02:18:12
And it's just a better system or old system. 02:18:14
We if we wanted to look at. 02:18:18
Our cameras of what was going on. 02:18:20
Only one person at a time could access that. 02:18:22
Now, uh. 02:18:25
We have access to all of our. 02:18:26
Any staff member can access those cameras so I can have them in my office. 02:18:29
By Deputy Warden, my chief of security. 02:18:33
We don't have to take turns dealing canvas so that system. 02:18:36
Very, very much needed. 02:18:41
Improvement. 02:18:44
We just upgraded our body cameras. 02:18:46
That's one thing in law enforcement. 02:18:49
That just says you're baking a lot is. 02:18:52
Recording those incidents when they happened. 02:18:54
So these cameras that are higher quality. 02:18:57
They fit better on the Staffs. 02:19:00
Uniform and they also when you push the record button. 02:19:03
It's it's on a loop and so it can record the previous two minutes prior to the catching radio traffic. 02:19:08
And anything that's going on tomorrow is actually. 02:19:15
Pushing that button, so that's a really good upgrade. 02:19:18
Our map program that we. 02:19:23
And working on with. 02:19:25
Hookloads and Presbyterian. 02:19:27
That's up and running. 02:19:30
We've been doing our referrals. 02:19:31
You actually had several. 02:19:34
Detainees that have reported. 02:19:37
Two of those. 02:19:40
For their after appointments. 02:19:42
For that program. So that's up to the running. 02:19:44
Something that we're really excited about. 02:19:47
And we're just in the process of preparing coordinates. 02:19:51
Days of the plumbing. 02:19:54
A project we have. 02:19:56
Our county manager come over and look at some of the things we have meeting on. 02:20:00
Friday and we're looking at. 02:20:06
Hopefully some breaking ground on the final. 02:20:07
Phase of that project. 02:20:11
And I stand up for any questions. 02:20:13
Well, thank you very much. 02:20:21
Thank you. 02:20:22
Appreciate it. 02:20:24
Finally, Landrag. 02:20:31
Chairman, Commissioners, Kathy Eyes and with Land Rock. 02:20:41
I don't have much because I didn't see us on the agenda. 02:20:45
But have a good memory. 02:20:48
So basically, you know, we. 02:20:50
Did some more discussion on Senate Bill 5 and. 02:20:53
I'm looking forward on that on Dell Hall actually just. 02:20:56
That is the full rest. 02:20:59
The full. 02:21:02
Still there. So we're going to work on the letter for that. 02:21:04
So we talked about that. Thank you for joining our meeting. 02:21:08
And we've completed our resolution and haven't completed in time to submit it to you and would have been selected on the agenda. 02:21:12
So. 02:21:17
I'll have that to you immediately. 02:21:21
And you talked about the river stewardship. 02:21:23
Grant that Mark Fisher had. 02:21:27
Talk to me about reaching out to San Fran with. 02:21:30
New Mexico State University, the water Resource and. 02:21:33
Resource and Research Institute. 02:21:37
And I believe that was submitted yesterday. It was due today. 02:21:41
Can you, can you? I think it's of interest to the Commission. 02:21:45
Maybe the public, can you talk a little bit about that? So the rubber stewardship grant is? 02:21:49
For the New Mexico Environmental Department Surface Water Quality Bureau. 02:21:56
Has these grants available annually for. 02:22:01
River specifically river restoration. 02:22:04
And this year really wanted to target. It wasn't actually in the RFP, but. 02:22:08
They were really directing it towards areas that have been impacted by fires. 02:22:12
So. 02:22:17
They're unbelievably we've had like less than a month if it's still on the 20th. 02:22:18
I finally got a photo Sam and. 02:22:23
They said, hey, we've got this grant. 02:22:26
So. 02:22:28
Myself and Cynthia Black, I've never met Cynthia that she's just a bombshell. She's just amazing. 02:22:30
I've worked pretty hard but she just like ran right over top to me. 02:22:37
And with the cooperation of. 02:22:41
Sam's crew. 02:22:44
We went out and identified projects. 02:22:46
They're, you know, looked at all the the river, the stream, closed areas that were affected by the fires. 02:22:49
Pretty much focused on Upper Canada. We're really trying to look at areas that. 02:22:56
Would help the river, but also. 02:23:01
Hopefully. 02:23:03
For some of those flight flows. 02:23:04
We get rain this summer. 02:23:07
So we identified and and Cynthia like math. 02:23:09
Out these different areas along the river and upper Canyon. 02:23:12
Took pictures and everything and I feel like we really put together. 02:23:17
Helpful presentation also got with. 02:23:21
Jackie Powell. 02:23:24
Down in the valley and really looked at they had really. 02:23:25
Need structures there. 02:23:29
On the river that. 02:23:31
You know, could potentially help slower flows and keep the. 02:23:32
Thanks for eroding and everything so. 02:23:36
Kind of included that in the discussion, but ended up with. 02:23:38
A full of wetland area. 02:23:42
Just downstream of the wastewater plant. 02:23:44
We're going to try and develop so. 02:23:47
Really put together a great proposal. It's somewhere. 02:23:50
The. 02:23:53
That we're looking at or somewhere between 3 and 500,000. Hopefully we identified. 02:23:55
On some really good projects and got some good numbers in there. Cynthia again. 02:24:01
Network of people that. 02:24:05
You know, Professor River restoration. 02:24:07
If you have a second contributor a lot you've done a lot of. 02:24:11
Your work up there in the upper Canyon. 02:24:14
Really stood out. 02:24:16
Another concern we all. 02:24:18
To Crowther and Hort Fisher, myself and Cynthia and. 02:24:20
The gentleman from Can You hear Me Please? 02:24:25
We went up there and we looked at the work that's been done thus far. 02:24:31
Cynthia was really concerned that when they were clearing the. 02:24:35
Silt and debris out of that river channel that they had really gone deep. 02:24:39
They weren't they weren't allowed to affect the width of the river. So I think they. 02:24:43
They went deeper and cleaned that out anyway. That was part of what she was looking at in the restoration. 02:24:48
And also looking at. 02:24:54
There's a wetland. 02:24:56
You know, we thought to start as high up. 02:24:57
And the cannon as we could. 02:25:00
Because obviously you want to. You want to slow the flows and restore things. 02:25:02
As far up because the floods going to. 02:25:07
Come all the way down South. 02:25:09
Another wetland up there that's already existing. 02:25:11
Hopefully can be. 02:25:15
You know, enhanced and enriched. 02:25:17
So they cut to that. Yeah, I think it's great. So. 02:25:20
You know it's a multi. 02:25:24
Multi page process so we had all the damage. 02:25:26
We had all the debris that came in. 02:25:29
Floodplains. 02:25:31
In the floodway. 02:25:33
In the River way. 02:25:34
And obviously that stuff just. 02:25:36
Caused all kinds of damage from top to bottom, right all the way down through the through the valley. 02:25:38
Tremendous amount of work we talked about in our budget. 02:25:45
Earlier, particularly in the first presentation, we had. 02:25:48
With respect to taking that degree out. 02:25:51
You take the debris out. 02:25:55
You clean up the water. 02:25:57
And the channel begins to move. 02:26:00
A little bit faster because it's now different. 02:26:02
But you cannot move. 02:26:05
Huge amounts. 02:26:07
And we're talking. 02:26:09
Hundreds of tons of material. 02:26:10
That needed to go. 02:26:13
Out of the river. 02:26:15
Without having some effect. 02:26:17
On the river, it's not the same as it was before the fires, before the floods. 02:26:19
So this project is designed to go back. 02:26:26
And look at that. 02:26:29
Condition of the river. 02:26:30
You can imagine. 02:26:32
You know when you have a ditch? 02:26:33
That's all clean and there's a lot of water flowing down. It goes fast. 02:26:35
Tends to Rd. 02:26:39
You get an Arroyo, it goes different. 02:26:41
Different deal. 02:26:43
But over time. 02:26:45
Boulders and rocks and other sorts of wind, winding ways and. 02:26:47
Changes in the direction of flow. 02:26:51
Slows down that rhythm. 02:26:54
Allows for the sediment to actually fall. 02:26:56
Correctly. 02:27:00
So that you get a seal. 02:27:01
And the water continues to flow. 02:27:03
All the way down where it's supposed to. 02:27:05
That's one. 02:27:07
Two, you actually get some percolation. 02:27:08
That you wouldn't have gotten before. What does that mean? 02:27:12
That means that helps out of aquifers, the waters, the wells. 02:27:15
And so that's this project is designed to kind of. 02:27:19
Look at that and see what can we do. 02:27:22
To bring the river kind of back to a more natural state. 02:27:25
Additionally. 02:27:29
The effluent that comes out of. 02:27:30
The sewage system includes. 02:27:34
Nitrates and phosphates. It just has to. 02:27:36
Right. And so algae. 02:27:39
Grows in the river. 02:27:41
And that's not good for fish. It's not good for water quality. Reduces the oxygen. 02:27:43
And so we're talking about. 02:27:49
Perhaps putting up things like cattails and bulrush? 02:27:51
Areas, if you know, we're Seeking Springs is down there. 02:27:55
Here, I guess it'd be east of of Biscuitville. 02:27:59
There's an opportunity there to actually plant some of those things. 02:28:03
In the efforts to try to. 02:28:07
Clean the water like the water quality better. 02:28:10
Used to be trials. 02:28:12
Down in the Honda Val. 02:28:14
All right, be nice to get that back Sunday. 02:28:16
So anyway, we appreciate that work. 02:28:19
I think it's very important. 02:28:21
And it's. 02:28:23
It's not just. 02:28:24
Cleaning up, but it's actually trying to restore a little bit so so it's a good deal. 02:28:25
Thank you very much for enhancing. 02:28:30
Explanation of that you've really done your homework. 02:28:33
And I do want to add that you know this will lead to other projects. 02:28:37
Specifically, you know, Marks looking forward to water budget and we're really looking at and I'd like to work with. 02:28:43
The new grant administrator. 02:28:49
You know, we I alluded to working on a drought plan that I think I've. 02:28:52
I I know I feel it shifted my focus and. 02:28:57
You know better to focus on on the water resources that we have in the county and this will. 02:29:00
If we succeed with this, even if we don't. 02:29:06
We've already started a discussion of, you know, laying groundwork for additional water studies. 02:29:09
Now there's been a lot of water studies around the county, but they haven't really. 02:29:15
I like that they they focus on the northern part of the Sacramentos and we really need to start looking. 02:29:20
More specifically. 02:29:26
At these rivers and streams that we went looked at that have been affected by the fire, never didn't. 02:29:28
Or central to ruinoso. 02:29:34
And look at. 02:29:36
In one restoring the health of those but also, you know. 02:29:37
How much we actually have. 02:29:40
Available. How is that being utilized and how are we going to manage it for the future? 02:29:42
Because we can't just keep. 02:29:47
Pulling those straws, you know that cups going to get empty. 02:29:48
So we really need to do everything we can to to bring that back to health. Hope and pray for rain and. 02:29:51
So this is really just like this. 02:29:57
The tip of the iceberg of what we can do to really help the county. 02:29:59
Going forward, thank you so much. Appreciate your work. 02:30:04
Thank you. OK, Thank you. 02:30:08
So we're going to move on to the elected officials. I'd like to. 02:30:10
Start off with the. 02:30:14
Sheriff is not here but but. 02:30:16
Yes, you have something. 02:30:21
Mr. 02:30:23
German commissioners. 02:30:34
So just to give you a brief one down. 02:30:40
Of the statistics for the past month, since April 15th. 02:30:44
We've taken a total of 730 calls for service. 02:30:48
Of those calls for service. 02:30:52
144 reports were taken. 02:30:54
Which included 26. 02:30:57
Crashes and 29 arrests. 02:30:58
The Sheriff's Office received 34 warrants that are entered into. 02:31:03
NCIC to be, broadcaster to be. 02:31:09
Somebody comes in contact with the subject with the warrant. 02:31:14
Our records. 02:31:18
Coordinators also received 61 requests for public information. 02:31:19
And there have been 120. 02:31:24
Civil process services made. 02:31:28
Which includes subpoenas and writs and stuff like that. 02:31:30
Any questions? 02:31:35
Comments. 02:31:36
Turns. 02:31:37
Thank you very much. 02:31:41
Chair. Commissioners. 02:31:53
I wanted a couple things. 02:31:55
For us today and I wanted to start by introducing a new employee that I have in the office here. 02:31:57
And she has just started with our office. 02:32:04
A couple weeks ago. 02:32:09
And as. 02:32:11
A very quick learner and I think she's going to be an amazing. 02:32:12
Improvement and impact in our office as we're really happy to have her on board. She'll be recording. 02:32:17
She will also. 02:32:22
In the future. 02:32:24
At some point, hopefully be included in the Commission meetings and the minutes. 02:32:25
So that will be a huge help for office and we appreciate. 02:32:29
Next month, if not the next couple of months, we'll have a couple of resolutions that will be brought up to the Commission. 02:32:34
One is for our Board of registration. 02:32:48
And we appoint those in June or July of odd number of years. 02:32:49
And then they serve her the. 02:32:53
Two years after that. 02:32:55
And so the board of registration, you know, just met in. 02:32:57
February of this year. 02:33:02
And they were appointed. 02:33:05
Two years ago and so you're going to be appointing them now for. 02:33:06
Two years from now. 02:33:09
And so we'll bring that to you guys on a resolution in the next month or so. 02:33:11
And we are working with the. 02:33:15
The chairs of the different parties to get people who are interested and would be interested in on that. 02:33:18
Report and the other resolution we're going to be bringing forward is our polling place. 02:33:24
On resolution. 02:33:28
So we have to get that approved every couple of years as well. 02:33:29
And we are looking at doing a Poss. 02:33:32
Only a couple of changes in our polling locations. 02:33:34
And so we're trying to kind of iron those out. 02:33:38
And then I'll bring that up. 02:33:41
For you guys, once we get that resolution done, if we do have those changes, then we'll be reaching out to the community. 02:33:43
Or communities and letting them know. 02:33:51
Where those changes might be will be taking effect and. 02:33:53
And how it will affect them, but I think. 02:33:56
Looking at the different locations. 02:33:59
I think it'll be. 02:34:01
Good in both locations that were maybe two of the. 02:34:02
Three locations we're looking at. 02:34:06
I think it'll be good, more centrally located and easier access. 02:34:08
So we're really looking forward to getting those up for you guys here in the next month of June. 02:34:13
Thank you. Thank you. 02:34:17
Same question. 02:34:22
Mr. Assessor. 02:34:26
Mr. Chair, this year commissioners, viewers and one of the assessor. 02:34:27
I've had much to report. 02:34:31
Other than our protest, hearings have been scheduled for July 15th and 16th. 02:34:33
And with that Commission to. 02:34:38
It's important hopefully during maybe next month meeting. 02:34:42
They usually sign off for two year contracts I believe increase. 02:34:51
Contact expired in 2001. Four. 02:34:55
And usually I think you guys did a point for. 02:34:58
On a regular board. 02:35:02
And then two of them serve as alternates. 02:35:04
On each of those boards, there needs to be one general member of the public and then the other. 02:35:06
Disappointed, must have like real estate experience of some sort. 02:35:12
So I just wanted to bring that up because I want to be prepared. 02:35:17
We do have. 02:35:20
Is it a volunteer for? 02:35:24
Well, it's certainly volunteer for it, but they get paid. If they serve, they get. 02:35:26
Can't force them. 02:35:32
Yeah, that's just volunteer, but they can get pain to face. 02:35:36
Can I have the previous board members information? 02:35:41
I'm going to provide that to her or I know, Commissioner or chairman. Commissioner, you have some money. 02:35:45
Yeah, we had. We had that. 02:35:51
We should. 02:35:53
I want to make sure that we have plenty of time. 02:35:54
To get the right people. 02:35:57
You know and make sure. 02:35:58
That's done. 02:36:01
Steadfast manner. 02:36:03
Without being rushed. 02:36:04
So I appreciate you getting to us on that. 02:36:06
Anything else? 02:36:10
That's terrific. 02:36:12
Madam Treasurer. 02:36:13
Chairman Fisher. Commissioner Sherry Huddleston, Lincoln County Treasurer. 02:36:16
I just wanna say that. 02:36:19
Half stopping into Troy for working on the ERP Pro Tyler program. 02:36:22
It has been a lot. 02:36:28
But if you noticed in the front of your finance book there was 2 documents that. 02:36:30
Were from the Tyler program. 02:36:36
So we have been able to balance marches, bank accounts, reconciliations with expense reports and revenues. 02:36:38
And. 02:36:46
And. 02:36:49
It's kind of easing a little bit. I think we're getting a little bit more used to it, but we're having to do both programs so. 02:36:50
Hats off to my staff because they're having some receipt in the triadic program and also in the Tyler program. 02:36:58
And so it's a lot of double work, but we want to make sure that everything's coming through and it's balancing. 02:37:05
On our taxes. 02:37:11
We will not go live until next February I believe. 02:37:14
So we're going to have to continue doing both programs until then. 02:37:17
The assessor was supposed to go live in July. 02:37:22
It's been put off. 02:37:25
I think it's December, right? Yeah, well, they haven't given us the definitive date yet. 02:37:27
But it has been put off because. 02:37:32
They weren't going to be able to get that. 02:37:34
At first they told us they weren't going to be able to extract our modeling data, which is all about appraisal. 02:37:37
Yeah, so. 02:37:41
We were going to have to handily enter that. 02:37:43
Into the system. 02:37:45
I don't know how long. 02:37:47
How does this comport with? 02:37:50
Puts the contract. 02:37:52
Is it are are are they fulfilling the contract? We need to look at that. 02:37:55
I just keep hearing these delays you know that you guys are being subjected to. 02:37:59
And and I don't know if that's. 02:38:04
Something that they're not doing and they should be doing or whether we've got any leverage whatsoever. Can we look at that? We're 02:38:07
working on that. 02:38:10
So there's we're, we're reviewing their contract, Mr. Chairman. 02:38:15
It's it's a lot of information to bring over. 02:38:21
And there's a lot of nuances that got to be brought over in the correct sequence to. 02:38:24
Make sure they all. 02:38:28
Right, right. Yeah, we're we are reviewing that. I just like to know something next. 02:38:31
Next meeting. 02:38:36
If there's any any leverage? 02:38:37
Available any. 02:38:40
Help that that we need to do because this is business of waiting till. 02:38:42
February is an example. 02:38:46
Commissioners trying to statute Deputy Treasurer. 02:38:48
So I can talk a little bit on the programs like the modules Why There are joys. 02:38:52
So for instance, the ER Pro 10 program, their finance program. 02:38:57
They have a huge staff. 02:39:01
Availability on their end. 02:39:03
So implementation if. 02:39:05
If we're pushed off, a week or so. 02:39:07
They have the stats that they can push off. 02:39:09
But the other modules for Eagle, which is going to be the assessors and also the Treasures plus. 02:39:12
Their implementation and conversion team is very small. 02:39:18
So if we get pushed off, they have other projects. 02:39:22
It doesn't just skip a week for us, it puts us back at the end of the line and so for our. 02:39:25
Our module. 02:39:32
Because of the timing with the assessors going live. 02:39:33
They have three other counties that they're implementing like that's going through the same thing that we're going through, but 02:39:36
they don't have the staff. 02:39:39
So that's why we're pushed out so far. 02:39:42
And that's going to be the same thing with the HR module. The HR module, they gave us the short window that we could not. 02:39:45
Get the information or time availability between our staff to actually get the. 02:39:52
Just to get it correct, you know. 02:40:00
For us not to be rushed and so that was pushed off. 02:40:01
So HR is not going to go live for. 02:40:04
So quarter 3? 02:40:07
Order 3. 02:40:09
Quarter three, quarter 4, which is going to be around the time that our W twos are coming up. 02:40:12
So there's a lot of stuff. 02:40:18
When working with Tyler, that has been. 02:40:20
Very beneficial, but then there's things on their end too that they just don't have the staff to keep up. 02:40:23
And when we don't have the exact timeline that they need. 02:40:29
It pushes its way up. 02:40:32
It just seems. 02:40:35
And I can understand that, I can comprehend that. 02:40:36
But it it would seem that we are not necessarily unique. 02:40:40
In in those problems that the other counties. 02:40:44
Trying to work with. 02:40:47
Will also have. 02:40:48
Some issues too so. 02:40:50
I'd like to. I'd like to see Mr. Manager, if there's not the ability to kind of. 02:40:53
Negotiate that time sharing of assets. 02:40:57
So that we're not always at the end, you know? 02:41:01
So so County B then. 02:41:04
Has a problem that may be. 02:41:06
Then they come after us. You see it? 02:41:07
Somehow that thought process may not be the most efficient. 02:41:10
Use of time. 02:41:14
For anybody. 02:41:15
So. So let's let's just look at that that's even possible. 02:41:17
I appreciate that update. 02:41:21
Anything else? 02:41:24
Yeah, yeah, you certainly did. 02:41:26
So so I I think I think the next. 02:41:31
Pieces to uh. 02:41:34
Go to the departments, right? 02:41:36
So I guess the early bird gets a worm we're going to have. 02:41:42
So it's OK. 02:41:46
That's good. 02:41:49
I like that, Chairman Fisher Commissioners. 02:41:54
Aaron Gruen. 02:41:57
Emergency Services director. 02:41:58
So looking at the month of April. 02:42:00
The Volunteer Fire department's responded to 33 calls for service. 02:42:03
Including two brush fires, 8 pulse alarms. 02:42:07
13 motor vehicle accidents, 2 power line down calls. 02:42:10
Or illegal burns. 02:42:14
Three EMS assist and one gas leak. 02:42:15
For our OPS update from OS, we've been busy with trying to get the launch of our new reporting program off the ground. Our new. 02:42:20
Cellular dispatch off the ground. 02:42:29
As well as attending meetings and functional exercises. So Brian attended the monsoon exercise with the village of Ruidoso. 02:42:32
And then at the same time, I went and met with the newly formed SE Mexico Fire Chiefs Association. 02:42:41
We put that before all of our Volunteer Fire chiefs and they all signed a letter of intent to become members of this association. 02:42:48
I think it's going to be really good for us. There's some really exciting stuff coming out of that. 02:42:55
With that, I was also elected as the Vice Chair of the Executive Advisory Committee for that association. 02:43:00
So we're going to definitely have a voice. 02:43:06
In the association going forward. 02:43:08
Looking at some of our projects, the Hondo water storage system. 02:43:11
We're getting close to completion on that. The pump has arrived, it has been put in place. They just got to go in and finish 02:43:15
plumbing that. 02:43:19
And then we'll be able to start operating that system, getting some water in those tanks and using that in the very near future. 02:43:22
The White Oaks Volunteer Fire Department expansion The building expansion has been completed. 02:43:29
Is my understanding that they are? 02:43:34
Either really closer. 02:43:36
Like within days of going and doing all the final inspections and stuff like that. 02:43:38
I personally went out there, took a look at it with Fire Chief Nikowski from the White Oaks Fire Department. 02:43:43
And they are super, super excited about that. That's going to be a major, major asset to that department. 02:43:49
And then the captain repeater site generator. 02:43:55
They went up last week, installed the generator. 02:43:59
We're just waiting on them either final checks and balances and make sure that everything is going to work right and we'll be able 02:44:02
to bring the new generator for the captain side online. 02:44:06
The Firewise community or the Wildfire hardening program? 02:44:12
We attended 3 HOA meetings. 02:44:15
And and held two public meetings for the program. We held a public meeting in Ruidoso Downs and we held another one at the Nogal 02:44:19
Fire Station for the Loma Grande area. 02:44:24
Well, we didn't get the attendance that we were hoping for at those public meetings. 02:44:30
They were very. 02:44:34
The the participants were very vocal. 02:44:38
They wanted to participate. They were there. They had a purpose to be there. They want to participate in this program. 02:44:40
The biggest complaint that we're getting back right now is. 02:44:46
The cost of getting rid of the debris. So we've been pushing things like. 02:44:49
Mr. Barbers. 02:44:54
There are curtain incinerators and stuff like that, trying to come up with some new and. 02:44:55
Innovative ways to deal with that. 02:44:59
And then as far as the weather update goes? 02:45:02
We're back into our hot, dry, windy kind of time frame. I did see a new. 02:45:05
Forecast come out last night that I need to do some more digging into. 02:45:11
They took away our above average chances for monsoons this year and put us back to equal chances, so we need to tie in with the 02:45:15
Weather Service and find out why that is happening. 02:45:19
Not that they have any control over it, but I'd be really. 02:45:24
Interested to know why that happened. 02:45:27
Other than that, I'll. 02:45:29
You've got. I know you're working on on. 02:45:33
Increasing the water capacity at certain locations. We've got a couple of our. 02:45:38
Fire departments that have water but don't have. 02:45:42
Hybrids, is that true? So we have one, they have the water system and the pump. 02:45:46
However, they do not have the hydrant and I also requires a fire hydrant for whatever reason to be present on the ground. So where 02:45:51
are we on there? So we rolled that into the capital outlay funds. 02:45:56
So our hopes with the capital outlay funds at $1 million that we've been earmarked for with the state. 02:46:02
To do three complete water systems and finish out that. 02:46:07
Water system at the Sunterra fire station. 02:46:11
Install a fire hydrant there. 02:46:13
So we should have the money available, right? 02:46:14
I have not heard if we have the money available to start spending yet, but. 02:46:17
I know that. 02:46:21
We were granted that through that way. 02:46:22
So I think. 02:46:24
I think, I mean, maybe, maybe you don't know, but I think that money becomes available. 02:46:26
Beginning of the fiscal year, we answered their questionnaires for the capital outlay. We'll receive agreements from those soon. 02:46:31
It usually kind of differs a little bit when we get the agreements in. 02:46:37
That money should be available. 02:46:41
So that's just through our DFA when they get. 02:46:46
Right. So we're, we're stepping through that process. 02:46:51
I'm just wondering, I don't know what the sense of the Commission is, but I don't know. 02:46:54
If we get a. 02:46:58
A positive thumbs up if that's going to happen. 02:47:00
I wonder if the Commission might entertain. 02:47:04
TFA rules on the wallet. 02:47:09
Just start work on it. 02:47:11
Get reimbursed. 02:47:16
Can't get reimbursed. 02:47:22
No, we'll, we'll bring you some press. There's a few things we can do at anytime like the procurement and do it. 02:47:23
We can't technically expend any funds until we have the agreements in hand. 02:47:28
Yeah. So, but we could do the procurement, we can have the plans in place. 02:47:32
They know exactly where we're going, what we're going to do. 02:47:36
So that as soon as those. 02:47:39
When's the next fire? 02:47:44
Tomorrow. 02:47:45
OK. Thank you. 02:47:48
Mr. Commissioners. 02:47:57
It. 02:48:08
Surely you're not going to drink? 02:48:11
I guess Paul, Amanda still here, I guess I'll kind of touch on. 02:48:16
On the projects that she mentioned that we are. 02:48:21
In discussions with with Lincoln National Forest. 02:48:24
I did meet with Andreas and Tim. 02:48:27
At their office earlier this. 02:48:30
Last week. Later last week. 02:48:32
And. 02:48:34
They do have money available. We're. 02:48:35
Probably. 02:48:37
In the $10 million range. 02:48:39
To do some projects on Banjo. 02:48:41
And completely. 02:48:43
Resurface the. 02:48:46
Bonita Lake Rd. 02:48:48
From the highway all the way to the back to the tan park. 02:48:49
So what they've asked us to do? 02:48:52
Our main is to administer those projects. 02:48:55
So they would actually provide us the money. 02:48:58
And then we would procure those projects with the contractors of the Needle Lake Rd. project we would probably do in house. 02:49:01
But the module project we would do with the contract. 02:49:07
So still in discussions. We'll find out more around the July time frame. 02:49:11
But along with that money that's available to them, they also have. 02:49:15
Approximately $4,000,000 to help us maintain those roads. 02:49:20
Moving forward. 02:49:24
So it's not a one and done type deal. So there's actually money there for us to kind of continue our mates. 02:49:26
So it is something that's very interesting for us. 02:49:31
Here and it's a project that we've done before. 02:49:35
With the Forest Service, they call it a SPA. 02:49:38
So special project agreement. 02:49:41
So they kind of pass money through us and then we take it over. 02:49:42
But it's a pretty good deal. 02:49:47
And Andres and those guys were really. 02:49:48
Helpful explaining all that so. 02:49:50
That is on the horizon here in the next couple of months. 02:49:53
I'd also like to. 02:49:56
Let you guys know, Commissioner Sarah and I went to Las Cruces and presented to the Colonial sport earlier this month. 02:49:58
And we've got a recommendation letter. 02:50:04
From the Columbia's board recommending our plan and design project for branches of Ruidoso Valley Estates. 02:50:08
It was a $460,000 ***. 02:50:14
And. 02:50:17
We'll find out on June 26. They'll give the final approval letter. 02:50:18
But it looks like we're right in line to receive that. 02:50:22
Funded so that will be. 02:50:25
Step number one for. 02:50:29
Taking care of the potential $4 million project. 02:50:30
This is really Coastal Valley Estates. We have to have a plan set before we can actually. 02:50:34
It constructionally. 02:50:38
Is there a match component today? 02:50:39
Yeah, Commissioner, Sir, there is. It's a 10% match and a loan component just like the other Columbia scratch so. 02:50:41
Approximately I mean 46,000 in the match. 02:50:48
And then whatever the loan. 02:50:52
Component would be. 02:50:53
So also on that our manager will be presenting for. 02:50:56
Us at the Circle board tomorrow, we will be going and asking for planning and design. 02:51:02
Grant again for Dutton. 02:51:08
It's a $421,000. 02:51:10
Half $21,000 match. It's a 5% match. 02:51:13
On the TPF. 02:51:17
So it would be a $21,000 match and a $399,000. 02:51:18
For core Dutton and also our maintenance projects, we have a $2,000,000 ask. 02:51:23
For chips, hill and and microsurface of a valley loop. 02:51:28
And also with Jenna Porsche. 02:51:32
And manager Burns will be presenting that. 02:51:34
Tomorrow at the. 02:51:37
So commitment so. 02:51:38
That is on the horizon as well. 02:51:40
For the L value loop E bridge. 02:51:45
Speaking with Commissioner Sarah there. 02:51:47
Are funds coming available from CDBG? 02:51:50
The Doctor. 02:51:53
Part of it, they're not available yet, but the debt disaster recovery. 02:51:54
No match, no cap. 02:51:58
So it's something that I need to. 02:52:01
Mr. Coleman. 02:52:03
And kind of discuss and see when those become available, we can, uh. 02:52:04
Put in for those as well. We might find us a later. 02:52:09
Get some money with no match on that. 02:52:11
So that would be a big help as well. Those are great funding opportunities. 02:52:14
Those are all coming up here in the next. 02:52:18
Few weeks I guess, so we'll go to work on those. 02:52:21
No pressure rock. 02:52:24
The ******* the door, Batista. 02:52:27
The dates aren't finalized just yet. 02:52:30
But she may find something on Thursday when we meet with her. 02:52:32
Sounds like it's it's. 02:52:36
Extending any data now. 02:52:38
For our current projects, I know there's a lot of. 02:52:45
Questions. 02:52:48
About what we have going on in Sandestin, I'll kind of hit that one last, but. 02:52:50
Currently we have projects going on on port Lone Tree where the 65 to 70%. 02:52:55
Complete range on based on that particular phase which is Phase 2. 02:53:00
They are currently working on that. Renegade Construction are on call contractors doing work out there. 02:53:05
On that project. 02:53:11
Lower Eagle Creek structure line, which is part of the junior build money. That's a one point. 02:53:13
Almost $1.4 million replacement of that structure. 02:53:18
The process is all going right now. 02:53:22
And we are looking to try to get that completed before June 30th when that money gets recalled. 02:53:25
Or clawed back. 02:53:31
So we're under the clock. 02:53:32
On that right now. 02:53:34
We are working on that make it. 02:53:35
We are working towards that right now. 02:53:37
So I have $1,000,000 paving project that's also going on on lower Eagle Creek. 02:53:39
That'll spend. 02:53:44
973,000 of that money was highway construction. 02:53:46
Thank you for sharing them through CES. 02:53:50
And they'll be starting their work. 02:53:52
Next week. They're doing their wide area locates right now. 02:53:54
So we should be paving and getting going on that next week. 02:53:57
And Renegade is continually doing the Structure 9. It's a cast in place project. 02:54:01
So they're actually building that structure on site. 02:54:06
So it is going and that would be. 02:54:10
The $2.5 million that we originally received from the junior bill money. 02:54:13
And that nobody thought that we could use this in time. 02:54:17
Will be right up there. 02:54:20
Close to the deadline, but we'll get it spent. 02:54:22
So we should be in line. 02:54:25
But again, we are on the clock on that one. 02:54:30
And I've been working with Billy Joe on that. She's been obligating the funds and. 02:54:33
We're starting to. 02:54:37
Get some of that money drawn down a little bit at a time, but we have two big hits coming. 02:54:38
$1,000,000 for paving and. 02:54:43
You know the rest of it on their structure for Renegade. 02:54:45
The last project that we have. 02:54:49
Getting ready to start is said desktop. 02:54:52
The low water crossing. 02:54:55
The Santeras. 02:54:56
That project is designed. 02:54:58
And we are actually. 02:55:01
Contacting contractors to see what numbers that we get back. The engineering estimate was 520 to 525,000. 02:55:04
That was after we value engineered it. 02:55:12
Originally it came back at 1.2 million. 02:55:15
And I worked with the engineers and we got that number cut down in half. 02:55:19
For what they designed to what we are. 02:55:23
Really need. 02:55:25
And now we are petitioning contractors to try to get some numbers. 02:55:26
That are going to fall in line with what our engineers estimate is. 02:55:31
So we're close. 02:55:35
On some of it, some of it we are. 02:55:37
So we are working on that right now. If we can get that, we have a deadline for the contractors for this Thursday. 02:55:40
To get all those numbers in. 02:55:46
We've received 2 numbers so far. 02:55:47
I'm just the way you know, two others and. 02:55:50
We'll kind of go with the best deal. 02:55:52
There's two ways that we can look this all the contractors love the job. 02:55:55
But none of them are necessarily ready to come to the work. 02:55:58
So we can pay a little bit more and have somebody here quickly. 02:56:01
$200,000 more. 02:56:06
Or we can pay $200,000 less and probably have to wait 3 or 4 weeks to get the. 02:56:08
Process started. 02:56:14
So we're trying to juggle that and. 02:56:15
I've been discussing that with Manager Burns on how we want to approach that, but we will procure that either through our on call. 02:56:17
Contractor. Uh. 02:56:23
Or through CS. 02:56:25
That is a 45 day project. 02:56:28
So once we get. 02:56:30
As an example, if we get everything done by the end of May. 02:56:32
As far as getting a contractor procured then we should have that project done by the mid-july. 02:56:35
What is the rush on the time frame? Why would we not wait in? 02:56:41
US Commissioner, sort of the. 02:56:44
Only brush on that is. 02:56:48
The perception and stuff from. 02:56:52
For public. 02:56:55
This is kind of an unprecedented deal. 02:56:58
We've been able to fund this project strictly in house. 02:57:00
And we? 02:57:03
Close that road October the 18th. 02:57:04
And so if we get this finished by the middle of July, that'll be a nine month project and that's a project that had no funding. 02:57:07
No planning, no design. 02:57:13
And no contractor. 02:57:15
Nine months ago. 02:57:16
And if we can pull it off and have it all done within nine months, that just doesn't happen. 02:57:17
If we had to go and find. 02:57:22
Grant money, we would still be at least a year away. 02:57:23
From getting this project started. 02:57:27
Much less than. 02:57:29
Superintendent, is that a $200,000 investment on top of the original? 02:57:33
Estimate in order for it to be able to be completed. 02:57:38
In that time frame that we're looking for. 02:57:42
Our engineers estimate. 02:57:44
Commissioner Prater came in at 5, let's just say 525. 02:57:45
You know, I could have a contractor that's. 02:57:49
Not necessarily ready to go right now because they're doing other work. 02:57:52
Here in the county. 02:57:56
And uh. 02:57:57
That would probably be about $50,000 more than there were our engineers estimate. 02:57:58
Or I could pull in a contractor. 02:58:04
From uh. 02:58:06
The area. 02:58:07
And pay $805,000 and have them start. 02:58:08
In a week and 1/2. 02:58:12
So there's a balancing act of. 02:58:14
What's going to be more important is. 02:58:16
The money is coming from the money that you guys provided me in my budget to do some of these projects. 02:58:18
So. 02:58:24
We just need to get two more bids in. We might be able to split the difference on these other two contractors when they come in. 02:58:25
And we just need to balance that and see what's going to be best for us. 02:58:32
The pressure, as you guys know. 02:58:35
I've heard from you guys as well is getting turned up. 02:58:37
On the project. 02:58:40
When it's going to be done? When it's going to be done but. 02:58:42
We're working on that. 02:58:45
The you know the design is. 02:58:46
Been completed, all the hard stuff is done. We just need to find a contractor and. 02:58:47
Get them here. 02:58:52
Everybody says they want to work. 02:58:53
But then they don't want to show up for 30 days. 02:58:55
So we're working through that. We got some good numbers. 02:58:58
Look, look. 02:59:05
Right now versus when we can get here and the cost associated with that? 02:59:08
Is what we're balancing. So we we do have options. 02:59:12
It will be bringing to. 02:59:15
No later than this meeting to award that. 02:59:17
Just somewhere. 02:59:20
So, Mr. Burns, thank you so much for your time. 02:59:21
I just have to say hats offered to Jeff, we have completed Colonial paid off the loan. 02:59:25
All done, completed and that goes off our books. 02:59:32
Alright, so. 02:59:39
So yeah, timeliness is important. 02:59:40
But but now we've got this bridge. 02:59:45
That we're talking about. 02:59:47
Where we really that's even. 02:59:49
In my view, at least as important, if not more so. 02:59:52
Down there in El. 02:59:56
And to think that we're not going to have some matching regardless of what happens with CBDT. 02:59:59
Or you know, that one is a. 03:00:04
And replacement. 03:00:06
Another is a. 03:00:08
Let's let's fix it so we can get through. 03:00:09
The season, more or less. 03:00:12
Might very well require us to. 03:00:16
Supplying some money. 03:00:18
Your budget because it's that important and it's that timely. 03:00:20
So I, you know my, my personal position on this is. 03:00:25
Is that if it's? If it's a? 03:00:30
A month later start. 03:00:32
For a project that we've really pushed very hard. 03:00:34
So that we can be. 03:00:38
Sensible. 03:00:40
And Prudential with our money. 03:00:41
Might be more important than the speed. 03:00:44
As we've got these other things also out there. 03:00:46
Yes, Sir, this bridge and. 03:00:49
I'm convinced that there's gotta be. 03:00:53
Interim engineering solution. 03:00:55
That will strengthen that. 03:00:58
So that it can be used. 03:01:00
Safely. 03:01:01
For the people that live on the other side of that river. 03:01:03
Picking her with your statement, Elizabeth said. 03:01:06
Thank you SO. 03:01:10
So, umm. 03:01:11
That, you know, that's my, that's my position. 03:01:13
Yeah. And I, I'm, I'm one of five. 03:01:15
If so. 03:01:19
I want you, I want you in your in your assessment, you know, as we go through this piece looking at. 03:01:21
Budgets and balancing tax going forward. 03:01:27
I want to have something that we can consider here. 03:01:30
That says hey. 03:01:33
For $300,000. 03:01:35
You can have some an additional. 03:01:38
Pierre put in there. 03:01:41
To to make that. 03:01:43
Bridge lasts another five years safely. 03:01:44
While we find the other money. 03:01:47
To actually do right. 03:01:50
Chairman Fisher I did speak with. 03:01:52
Engineers of. 03:01:54
They left. 03:01:56
Today about. 03:01:56
Getting something in place here very soon that we can kind of. 03:01:58
So does me bridge the gap? 03:02:02
Until we can get the the funding to be a concrete proposal. 03:02:05
It could be. 03:02:09
But we are working on that and the Sandesta, I mean they're all important folks. 03:02:16
Lone Tree where you know we get. 03:02:20
Depends on who you talk to. They all want it right now, so we're working towards that I think. 03:02:22
Well, we have to make some value judgments. That's why we get paid here and. 03:02:28
And clearly. 03:02:32
Clearly, Sandista. 03:02:34
Is it oozing sore? 03:02:36
We'd like to get it done before the monsoons. 03:02:38
Right. Otherwise it turns into a bigger problem. Your engineering will change. 03:02:41
Right. 03:02:46
And then, and then it's this bridge. And then there's other. 03:02:50
Other issues we can go on down the list, but that's that's why we're here so. 03:02:53
We'll help you with those decisions, we just need to know. 03:02:57
Thanks. Yes, Sir, that's time we're at. We are reviewing the numbers. I'll have those by some. 03:03:01
Ideas of how we want to move forward. 03:03:07
Anything else, Commissioner, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Annika, please keep me aware of this. 03:03:11
Anything that's changed? 03:03:16
Obviously I know they have both of us on speed dial. 03:03:19
OK. Thank you very much. 03:03:30
Did you have an update on the pattern? 03:03:34
Oh, I'm sorry, I did. 03:03:36
Commissioner Wilson. 03:03:39
You know, they have ramped up a lot of their activities outboard. 03:03:40
And just. 03:03:45
You know, we do have the road use agreement with. 03:03:46
Pattern and bladder and. 03:03:48
Just so you guys know the the roads that they are using right now, they have they. 03:03:50
Under the road use agreement on all of ELDA. 03:03:55
They are on the road use agreement of all of Vogel. 03:03:58
246 to the crossroads. 03:04:01
They're from transwestern north of the crossroads at 2:47. 03:04:04
The wrong Grande Vista to the five points. 03:04:08
Of the Vogel and they're also on Bonita Canyon Rd. 03:04:11
Of elder and they are starting to use Agile road now. 03:04:16
As well. 03:04:20
Those are all Rd. use agreements. 03:04:21
We have had some hiccups. 03:04:23
To this point of what? 03:04:26
Their idea of maintenance is and what? 03:04:28
Our idea of maintenance is. 03:04:30
We have met with him several times and have several. 03:04:32
Spirited discussions about it. 03:04:36
And we met with them with our blade heads and we actually showed them what we expect the roads to look like and the way they need 03:04:38
to be plated. 03:04:42
And they were very receptive to. 03:04:46
Well, there was probably 25 of them out there at that meeting. 03:04:49
That I had with. 03:04:51
Four of my guys. 03:04:52
We actually got all blades together and bladed roads and said this is the way we want it done. 03:04:54
This is our expect. 03:04:58
But when you take 40 concrete trucks up. 03:05:01
Opendale Mogul It doesn't take long from. 03:05:04
What was these that to go to bed really quick? 03:05:06
So but we are working with them on it. 03:05:09
But they are all over the place out north. 03:05:12
Everywhere. Do we need to bring them in? 03:05:14
I've been speaking with Jeremy Turner about it. I've also talked to Jeff Lebeck, which is out of Canada. They're one of their top 03:05:17
guys and. 03:05:21
I think we're on the same page and they understand what we're. 03:05:25
We're at and how we feel about it. 03:05:29
But any? 03:05:32
Encouragement from the Commission would be appreciated. 03:05:35
Well, so, so I think that's a yes. 03:05:39
Yes, it is. 03:05:41
Yes, Sir. 03:05:43
OK. Anything else? 03:05:48
No, Mr. Chairman, just as long as there. 03:05:50
Understand. 03:05:52
That they need to fulfill their exactly. 03:05:53
It's not just a blade, it's a material thing and you know there's a particular material that we're on those roads when they 03:05:56
started. 03:05:59
And I've explained to them that the that's the expectation that. 03:06:03
We keep that similar type material. Dropping a load of rock here there is not maintaining the roads. 03:06:06
And we've had that discussion. 03:06:12
You know, and running those 40 concrete trucks, it turns out again, that's fine for the starter good. So exactly needs to stay 03:06:14
good. 03:06:17
Yes, those roads will need to be rebuilt completely in 2027 when they're finished. 03:06:21
And that's going to be a bill they're not going to enjoy. 03:06:26
So we told them that before they started. 03:06:29
That they weren't designed for that and we asked them. 03:06:32
Walter Garfield and I sat in his room and asked them. 03:06:34
To build those roads and strengthen them before. 03:06:37
They got started and they don't want to do that. 03:06:41
So they'll do it before they leave. 03:06:43
Yeah, I think, I think we should meet. 03:06:48
And go through the laundry list of things, the roads being. 03:06:50
Probably most important. 03:06:54
If the dog closest to the slant or the wolf closest to the slab. But there are other issues too around this is water issues 03:06:55
associated with this project. 03:06:59
There's also some things like. 03:07:05
Law enforcement coverage. 03:07:08
And and some other issues up north. 03:07:10
These things have been. 03:07:13
Increase. The requirement has increased because of all the population and workers and so forth. 03:07:15
Would probably something that as a county we're going to have to address sooner or later. 03:07:21
Yes, Sir. 03:07:26
I don't know. I don't know where the money is coming from because. 03:07:28
I haven't seen it. 03:07:31
You haven't seen a lot of money. 03:07:33
All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. 03:07:40
As much as please. 03:07:44
Good morning, Chairman Fisher Commissioners Renee Montes. 03:07:59
Senior Services director. 03:08:05
I would just like to give you a few little updates on what we've been doing with our, our program, with the seniors. 03:08:07
I did submit art. 03:08:13
Teenage Center. ICIP. 03:08:14
It was due on March, I mean May the 5th, 14. 03:08:16
And we did get that all done and thank you for getting us the resolution in a timely manner. So we got that all sent all together. 03:08:19
We are working and we're waiting on today's. 03:08:27
Agenda item. 03:08:30
To see whether your budget was going to pass so that I could go ahead and submit my budget to state. 03:08:32
And to non metro. 03:08:37
Hands out on that. 03:08:38
I will have it all submitted on Friday with our. 03:08:41
Our plan of service and our budget. 03:08:45
Also, we are doing a public hearing tomorrow. 03:08:48
At the Senior Center in Carrizozo at 1:00, it was. 03:08:51
In a part of our program that we have to do once a year. 03:08:55
Is do a public hearing so that people can come in and tell us. 03:08:59
What you know for doing what they would like us to do or if they have other ideas or. 03:09:03
Just when you kind of go over our. 03:09:08
Our plan action. 03:09:10
The units of service. 03:09:11
I do have the updated. 03:09:14
Thing that I told you, I would get that previous one if you wanted to see that it is our. 03:09:18
I CIP. 03:09:23
Remember when I came to you before, it was all just a? 03:09:24
Handwritten. 03:09:27
And so I do have the final draft there. 03:09:28
You can have that onion. I noticed our. 03:09:30
Public hearing tomorrow. 03:09:33
And if you have an update on our units of service. 03:09:34
For this year, there's a date. 03:09:38
We are. We've done 16,476 units of congregate meals. 03:09:40
31,999 of home delivered meals. 03:09:46
And 848 of transportation. 03:09:49
We are our progress mills and our home delivered meals are down just a little bit for the year. 03:09:52
Due to the fact that July and August was so hard. 03:09:57
With the desktop area, which is our largest area. 03:10:01
And so a lot of the people during that time. 03:10:03
Or not either at home or not receiving meals. 03:10:05
During that time, so it is a little bit lower than it normally would be, but it is picking back up. Redo the balance, looks like 03:10:09
it's coming back. 03:10:12
And so we should see a. 03:10:16
Great improvement. Also just a little update on our Senior Center vehicles. 03:10:18
The grants that we had are all. 03:10:22
But Bill, we have received a vehicle for Capitan Carrizozo Corona. 03:10:25
Hanzo and Rizzo, Sue Downs. 03:10:30
We are submitted all the paperwork we'll. 03:10:32
Except for the one with Rita's. 03:10:35
Time hasn't come in yet, but as soon as we get that, we will have. 03:10:37
Have everything. 03:10:40
Waiting for reimbursement from the. 03:10:41
And. 03:10:43
We do are putting our old vehicles, some of them are all going out to auction. 03:10:44
So we'll be glad to get rid of them. 03:10:49
And cleaning our parking lot a little. 03:10:51
Also the Columbus Center, we have a small amount of money left on where their renovation grants. 03:10:53
And so we had talked to James and he's working with us to see if we can't get the. 03:10:59
Knee split put in over there. They really need some air conditioning and since we didn't have enough money in that grant for HVAC 03:11:03
system. 03:11:07
This was our next. 03:11:11
The next thing that. 03:11:12
And I do want to say thank you, Jeff also. 03:11:14
For fixing the road. 03:11:17
The driveway at the Honda Senior Center. 03:11:19
It was very nice and thank you. And I'm sure the seniors do too. I don't know if he's still in here. 03:11:22
But I do appreciate that. 03:11:27
It was getting really rough. 03:11:29
We have nothing better. 03:11:31
People coming and talking about it so. 03:11:33
It looks good. 03:11:35
Is it much better? Thank you. 03:11:36
That's all. I have a question. 03:11:40
Well, thank you so much. Thank you. 03:11:42
Hey, county Manager. 03:11:48
If you're up, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, I'll keep on. 03:11:56
Pretty quick. 03:11:58
I really just. 03:12:00
Thank you and recognize the staff. They've really worked hard. I know we've come in and. 03:12:03
Had a few changes here recently and they've really done a good job. 03:12:08
Picking up and adapting. 03:12:12
We really appreciate them and this is a busy time of year. 03:12:14
I've got budget, we've had went through the personnel policy. 03:12:17
It's been busy to stay the least so. 03:12:22
We're going to have another couple busy weeks and. 03:12:24
We'll keep on going or what we're. 03:12:27
What we're doing so. 03:12:29
Prophetic opportunity. 03:12:31
Introduce Miss Vanessa. 03:12:33
I don't want. 03:12:35
There you go, she's our new HR manager. She started saying that I did so. 03:12:37
She's coming into with me. 03:12:42
I'd also like to introduce Mr. Henrietta Regal. 03:12:45
I'm sitting she's under executive assistant and. 03:12:48
She's going to take care of all of our agenda and agreements and that kind of social. 03:12:51
On a dessert and then also Mr. Coleman. 03:12:55
We've got him on and working with grants and projects and. 03:12:58
We're going to keep those going. We're going to have you a good presentation. 03:13:02
On the next meeting about where we're sitting with a bunch of grants and projects, so. 03:13:06
Lots of work, very busy. 03:13:10
Other than that, I. 03:13:19
Don't have anything else with several things discussed but. 03:13:20
So any questions, Commissioners? 03:13:25
Thank you. 03:13:32
Let's start with. 03:13:35
I'll relinquish my time. 03:13:42
Have anything crossing time? 03:13:45
I'm going to go ahead and remember which my time as well. 03:13:48
Which jazz? 03:13:56
I have. 03:13:58
Attended 4 four different meetings. 03:13:59
New Mexico County meeting. 03:14:02
Which? 03:14:09
I also attended a meeting for the. 03:14:13
In county builders. 03:14:16
And I invited. 03:14:17
The the contractors to come become vendors. 03:14:19
Also attended a. 03:14:25
UWS. 03:14:27
Count hall and register balance about the air equipment. 03:14:30
Incinerator. 03:14:33
Which we're trying to increase. 03:14:34
You know, trying that they're utilizing it so they needed a permit and. 03:14:37
Public comment so. 03:14:41
I think it's a good idea. 03:14:43
And also attended that green tree. 03:14:46
About the landfill of the. 03:14:49
That they're opening that new cell at the landfill. 03:14:51
Because of the increase in volume of. 03:14:55
People, are you coming in? 03:14:57
Thank you. 03:15:04
I'm going to be brief. 03:15:12
Attended a bunch of meetings. 03:15:14
But what I really want to talk about? 03:15:16
As as you know, I think I already said this before, but it's important. 03:15:20
We have continued to accomplish. 03:15:24
I think. 03:15:27
A lot of things. 03:15:29
In the county. 03:15:30
And it mostly. 03:15:31
A result of. 03:15:34
Of the staff, absolutely. 03:15:35
Resolve that. 03:15:37
But I would also want to recognize members of the Commission. 03:15:40
Particularly when I was. 03:15:45
Trying to fill these big shoes as county manager, I did that inadequately, but whatever successes we did have. 03:15:47
A result of the staff. 03:15:54
Support. 03:15:56
And these commissions that you see here at this, this deist. 03:15:58
In fact, we've modified that the personnel policy twice and. 03:16:03
Mostly because of. 03:16:08
Commissioner Serna. 03:16:10
And then and then the other things with. 03:16:12
Commissioner, appraiser, you know, talked about some of the issues regarding. 03:16:15
Yeah, the Stanbista Bridge. 03:16:20
The Ranchos Ruidoso. 03:16:25
These are things that. 03:16:29
Are very important. 03:16:31
To the community. 03:16:33
Because they're they're. 03:16:34
Palpable. 03:16:35
They, they allow our citizens to say, you know, maybe the county is not so bad. They're not just taking my money. 03:16:37
Some things for us. 03:16:43
And then Commissioner Travis, you know, we kind of use him as. 03:16:46
Sort of our in house. 03:16:50
Construction Expert. Building expert. 03:16:53
In many ways. 03:16:56
A lot of work is done. 03:16:57
At the jail. 03:17:00
As you know, we've complained, there's been complaints about the plumbing. 03:17:01
And are the things that the jail for. 03:17:05
For years, ever since I. 03:17:07
Became a commissioner. 03:17:09
Please take any initiative to be engaged in that process with, not only the. 03:17:11
The uh. 03:17:16
The contractor that's involved in the current work. 03:17:17
But also establishing. 03:17:21
Connections with with the warden and that's that's true with. 03:17:23
With the other commissioners, almost. 03:17:27
Well, the the. 03:17:29
Progress that we've had. 03:17:32
With the. 03:17:34
Fair Board. 03:17:36
Absolutely. 03:17:38
Turn into a rocket in terms of progress because of. 03:17:41
Commissioner Wilson's engagement. 03:17:45
So I just want to thank them again. 03:17:48
I want to encourage. 03:17:51
Their engagement going forward, I know now we've got a competent. 03:17:53
County Manager. 03:17:58
With some help. 03:18:00
But I also still think that parts of is to still dig it. 03:18:02
Dig into the weed sometimes provide. 03:18:05
Expertise. 03:18:08
It's reasonable. 03:18:10
And bandwidth. 03:18:11
2 The job is. 03:18:13
Daunting. 03:18:16
It's it's a big county. 03:18:17
And we don't. 03:18:20
Even though we've got it terrifically. 03:18:21
Powerful staff. 03:18:23
We don't have a staff that. 03:18:25
The village has as an example. 03:18:27
And so it takes all of us working together to make these things happen. 03:18:29
So. 03:18:34
Just a couple of notes. 03:18:36
This air curtain deal you're probably going to hear a lot of complaints with respect to. 03:18:38
From some people. 03:18:43
About it. 03:18:45
This is a very clean, efficient way of getting rid of woody material. 03:18:45
It operates at eight 800°. 03:18:51
It's safe. 03:18:55
The the gas emissions, the pollutant emissions. 03:18:57
Are minuscule. 03:19:01
Compared to any other way. 03:19:02
Of getting rid of this material and you've you've seen that the piles of. 03:19:05
Of stuff there on 70, right? 03:19:09
What do you do with that? 03:19:11
It it's gonna burn. 03:19:14
You can't put it in the landfill. 03:19:16
You have to get rid of it. 03:19:19
It's for the safety and health. 03:19:21
Of the community. 03:19:23
So I am. I can't be more happy. 03:19:25
That situation exists that we're actually getting rid of that material properly. 03:19:28
The other piles of sediment and silt that you've heard about. 03:19:34
How contaminated it is? 03:19:38
It's no more contaminated. 03:19:42
There than it was where it was at. 03:19:44
Going into the water. 03:19:46
Sources, right? 03:19:48
It's being mixed and used. 03:19:50
In ways that will. 03:19:52
Isolated. 03:19:53
Very much more than it was before. 03:19:55
From the environment. 03:19:57
So. 03:19:59
It's not a perfect solution. 03:20:01
But it's the best we have. 03:20:04
We didn't start the fire. 03:20:06
We didn't do the floods, now we have to deal with it. 03:20:08
And I think that. 03:20:11
The efforts that you see out there. 03:20:12
Are solid scientifically and environmentally. 03:20:15
And they're certainly good for community. 03:20:19
It's not perfect. 03:20:22
But it beats anything else somebody said. 03:20:23
Well, why don't we just? 03:20:26
Why don't we just move that stuff out to? 03:20:28
The middle of nowhere. And they like to think of Arabella as the middle of nowhere. It's the center of everything. 03:20:32
I will tell you it's just moving the problem one place to the next and and in the transport cost the. 03:20:42
Yeah, the trucks. 03:20:48
The fuel, the air pollution. 03:20:50
The danger and and destruction on our roads. 03:20:53
It makes absolutely no sense. It's impossible. 03:20:56
We will have air curtains. 03:20:59
In this county for the foreseeable future. 03:21:01
When you want to clean. 03:21:04
Your property and harden it against fires. Where does all that rush go? 03:21:05
It has to go to an airport, it has to be disposed of properly. 03:21:10
So, umm. 03:21:13
That that's just kind of a an editorial comment I wanted to make. 03:21:15
Other than that. 03:21:22
I'll yield the rest of my time. I spent too much. 03:21:23
On it but but. 03:21:26
Anyway, I think you've got a good. 03:21:27
Good county government. 03:21:30
We're going to continue to work on on strengthening and supporting our our employees so that they feel. 03:21:32
And I appreciate it. 03:21:38
And I'm sure they're going to perform continually, do even better things going forward. 03:21:41
Thank you. 03:21:47
That's all I had. 03:21:49
I guess I need a motion. We can do one or two things. 03:21:53
It'll take a quick lunch break. I think that's probably what we should do. 03:21:56
Yeah, I'd say 20. 03:22:00
12:30 We'll we'll reconvene. 03:22:02
Then we'll go into executive session. 03:22:04
We have some items that we need to talk about there. 03:22:08
And then I call every day unless there's something else. 03:22:11
So let's adjourn the meeting now till 12:30. Thank you. 03:22:15
You're welcome. 03:22:23
Yeah, good. Is it executive time? 03:22:28
I need a motion to close the. 03:22:34
Normal Commission meeting. 03:22:37
For an executive session. 03:22:39
All right. Thank you. 03:22:58
And I always start the executive session and. 03:23:00
I attest matters discussed in the closed meeting we're limited to those specified and have and no action was taken. 03:23:03
OK, we shall reconvene. 03:23:17
Commission meeting. 03:23:23
Are there any matters to be discussed? 03:23:25
I think we've gone through the agenda. 03:23:29
Hearing none. 03:23:33
Our next meeting is. 03:23:34
10th of June. 03:23:35
We don't have scheduled a workshop before then. 03:23:37
So that's the next time we come together. 03:23:41
Do I have a motion to adjourn the meeting? 03:23:45
I'll make a motion to adjourn the. 03:23:48
2nd. 03:23:50
Commissioner Travis. 03:23:57
Commissioner Prader, HI Chair, FIS. 03:24:00
Aye, thank you. 03:24:02
Mr. Wilson, are you going to? 03:24:05
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3rd or 715? 00:00:00
You can see this little vampire ring with the. 00:00:04
I think this is important that you're here. 00:00:11
We've changed up the agenda just a little bit. 00:00:15
But all the essential elements are the same. 00:00:18
And we appreciate your attendance. 00:00:21
And we will call the meeting order. 00:00:24
Today is Tuesday, May 20th. 00:00:28
08/30 almost. 00:00:31
And Madam Clerk, would you? 00:00:33
Enough to roll call. 00:00:36
Commissioner. 00:00:43
Here, Mr. Chauvin. 00:00:45
Here Commissioner Wilson, President, Chair Fisher. 00:00:47
Here. 00:00:50
Mr. Wilson, would you? 00:00:52
Conducting invocation. 00:00:54
Borders together today we ask that you. 00:01:00
Please be with us that you've got our thoughts and our ideas and our decisions as we discussed together today. 00:01:02
I pray that as we. 00:01:09
Represent our communities and our. 00:01:10
Communities. 00:01:12
Within our county. 00:01:14
We can strive to. 00:01:16
To do the best for them. 00:01:17
Or we ask that you bless abundantly all who are present with us today, and we ask that you agree with those who are able. 00:01:19
By the order appropriate for rain, for our country, Pray for the rain, for our ground and for our spirits. 00:01:25
We thank you that you're our Lord and Savior, and. 00:01:31
Amenity. Pleasant allegiance, please. 00:01:34
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:01:39
The United States of America. 00:01:41
And to the Republic for which it stands. 00:01:43
One Nation. 00:01:46
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:01:49
All right. 00:01:52
Looking for a motion to approve the agenda? 00:02:05
Chairs to move, items as necessary, move. 00:02:09
Second roll call please. 00:02:18
Yes, Commissioner Wilson. 00:02:22
Yes. 00:02:24
Thank you. 00:02:30
So we're going to start off a little bit. 00:02:32
Differently this morning. 00:02:34
We would like to. 00:02:36
Any public comments? An opportunity for anybody in the audience? 00:02:40
To speak for three minutes. 00:02:44
About any subject that they wish. 00:02:47
And you have that opportunity now. 00:02:49
You can give your report later. 00:02:57
Yeah, we're going to department updates. 00:03:00
It'll be on agenda item 6 even though. 00:03:05
Specifically in there this time it will be next time. 00:03:08
That way we can have a back and forth, OK. 00:03:12
Anybody else? 00:03:17
Love to hear from you. 00:03:19
Yes, Sir. 00:03:22
Do you need me to stand anywhere in particular? 00:03:24
Right here would be fine for now. If you don't mind, state your name and. 00:03:27
Not a problem. 00:03:31
Names Bill Hall live in Ruidoso. 00:03:34
Wanted to address the Commission and county. 00:03:37
Encourage you all. 00:03:39
To adopt. 00:03:41
The FEMA maps that have already been prepared for the flood. 00:03:43
The village went through mapping. All of that has already provided the county with the data. 00:03:46
But as an organ, as a governing body. 00:03:51
You have a choice. You can adopt them now, they're not likely to change, or you can wait till. 00:03:54
Freeman decides to adapt them. 00:03:58
Five to six years later. 00:04:00
The challenge was that. 00:04:02
Is if you are an early adopter. 00:04:04
You can control what goes on within the areas of flooded. 00:04:07
If you have one. 00:04:11
Controlled development, where people go, I'm just going to do whatever I want. 00:04:12
You put yourself at risk. 00:04:17
For not only future FEMA funds. 00:04:19
But the other thing that happens with that? 00:04:21
Is because of how the government works. 00:04:24
You put the county at risk for getting other federal funds, not just related to. 00:04:26
The fires and the floods. So I would encourage you to look at those maps, look at the data. 00:04:32
The county has been provided. 00:04:36
And put it on your agenda to formally adopt it. 00:04:38
Sometime in the next few months. 00:04:41
It will also helps the recovery. It'll speed the process of getting reimbursement from FEMA. 00:04:43
All of that is something we've already experienced within the village. 00:04:48
And it's something that. 00:04:52
Like I said, you don't want to get to the point where FEMA adopts a map and then they go, oh, well, you've got all these 00:04:54
structures that are now built in floodplains or flood ways. 00:04:58
That she did nothing with. 00:05:03
They don't really like that. 00:05:04
To start again, we have to play for federal funds. 00:05:06
But I would encourage you look at the data you've been provided. 00:05:09
Look at that formally adopted. 00:05:12
Thanks guys. Thank you, Sir. 00:05:14
Anybody else? 00:05:18
Going once. 00:05:26
Going twice. 00:05:28
We're done. All right. Thank you. 00:05:30
Period. 00:05:34
The next thing on the agenda? 00:05:36
This is very important. 00:05:38
We're going to recognize. 00:05:39
Three different things in particular. 00:05:43
But the first item is the Memorial Day proclamation. 00:05:47
And I've asked. 00:05:51
Commissioner Prather. 00:05:53
To read the plot proclamation. 00:05:54
Because I think it's important that we really understand what Memorial Day is about. 00:05:57
And and recognize it in this form. 00:06:02
Commissioner Pregnant. 00:06:06
Good morning, everybody. Memorial Day Proclamation. 00:06:07
Every Memorial Day, Americans remember the debt. 00:06:10
Of gratitude we owe. 00:06:14
To our servicemen and women. 00:06:16
Who lost their lives for our country? 00:06:18
On this important day, communities across our nation stopped to remember. 00:06:20
And honor the ultimate sacrifice made by those. 00:06:24
Memorial Day is not a celebration, but a solemn day. 00:06:27
To reflect. 00:06:31
Our military personnel who were killed in the line of duty. 00:06:32
Memorial Day observed on the last Monday of May. 00:06:35
Is a day to honor members of the military who were killed in service, both during deployments overseas or in training. 00:06:39
And in service around the globe. 00:06:46
Originally it was called. 00:06:48
Decoration Day. 00:06:51
And observed on May 30th, 1868, the holiday was proclaimed by Commander in Chief John A Logan. 00:06:53
Of the Grand Army of the Republic to honor the Union soldiers. 00:07:00
Who had died in the American Civil War. 00:07:04
Later it included all fallen soldiers and sailors, Union and Confederate of the Civil War. 00:07:06
Since its beginning, our country has faced many threats. 00:07:12
That have tested its courage. 00:07:15
From battlefields and jungle skirmishes to. 00:07:17
Conflicts at sea and in the air. Generations of brave men and women have fought and died to defeat tyranny and protect our 00:07:20
constitutional. 00:07:24
Their sacrifice has made this nation strong and our world a better place. 00:07:29
The observance of Memorial Day reinforces our nations resolve. 00:07:35
To never forget those. 00:07:38
Who gave the ultimate sacrifice for America? We can continue to rely on our brave, steadfast men and women in uniform. 00:07:40
To defend our freedom. 00:07:47
Unite as a people. 00:07:49
Are united as a people. 00:07:51
We pray throughout. 00:07:53
The world for their souls we also pay. 00:07:56
Pray for the safety of our troops currently serving. 00:07:59
This generation follows an unbroken line of great courageousness. 00:08:03
And unfaltering. 00:08:08
Heroes who have never let our country down. 00:08:09
As we commemorate this noble American observance. 00:08:13
We honor those. 00:08:16
Fell in defense of freedom. We. 00:08:19
We honor them. 00:08:22
In our memory, through solemn observance of. 00:08:23
And prayer. 00:08:25
And with the love of a grateful nation. 00:08:27
Now, therefore, we. 00:08:30
We do hereby proclaim May 26th, 2025 as Memorial Day proclaims. 00:08:32
This 20th day of May, 2025 in carriers, Ozone, New Mexico. 00:08:37
Board of Commissioners, Lincoln County, New Mexico. 00:08:42
Thank you, Commissioner. 00:08:46
Do we have a motion to approve that problem, please? 00:08:48
Make a motion that we approve an approximation. 00:08:52
Please. 00:08:55
Hi, Commissioner Fraider. 00:08:58
Aye. 00:09:06
Aye. 00:09:07
Thank you. 00:09:11
The next. 00:09:12
Item chair real quick, Can I just interrupt? Yes. 00:09:14
The live streaming is having low bandwidth issues. 00:09:17
And so it is being recorded and will be added to the websites as meeting has ended. 00:09:20
But the live stream is. 00:09:26
Not consistent. 00:09:27
Thank you, Madam Clerk. 00:09:30
The next item is is we want to recognize. 00:09:34
Very important. 00:09:37
Milestones Burlington County. 00:09:40
And for in particular. 00:09:42
The Volunteer Fire Department. 00:09:45
As you know, last year. 00:09:48
With the fires and the floods. 00:09:51
We really. 00:09:55
Really benefited. 00:09:58
From our Volunteer Fire departments, a lot of others were engaged in this too. 00:10:00
Both pay firefighters. 00:10:04
EMS. 00:10:06
And obviously the Sheriff's Office and others. 00:10:08
But in today, we want to recognize. 00:10:11
Volunteer Fire Department for. 00:10:16
Achieving. 00:10:18
ISO 4. 00:10:20
Which is incredible. I think that's the first time this has ever happened. 00:10:22
In Lincoln County. 00:10:26
It's a milestone. 00:10:27
It's a goal now that we are going to. 00:10:29
Encourage all our Volunteer Fire departments to achieve. 00:10:32
So I would ask. 00:10:37
That we have. 00:10:39
Jet, Adam. 00:10:41
Aaron, I'd like to see. Come on down. 00:10:43
Please I want to present. 00:10:46
A plaque from the Commission. 00:10:48
Because it's that important. 00:10:50
And if you'll stand, please stand there in front of. 00:10:53
Mr. Chad is a crater. 00:10:57
I want everybody to see this. 00:11:00
This plaque, it's a Maltese cross. It's. 00:11:03
It's a traditional symbol of firefighting. 00:11:06
It says on it. 00:11:10
Presented to Lincoln Volunteer Fire Department recognition for isoclass. 00:11:12
44X. 00:11:17
This is. 00:11:18
Well, congratulations, this is fantastic. 00:11:21
Understand how much we appreciate and recognize this. 00:11:42
See if we can get the other ones to do the same. 00:12:05
That really is a great thing, the amount of training, the amount of work. 00:12:12
These volunteers are put in to make this happen is. 00:12:18
Phenomenal. 00:12:21
The next thing I want to point out to you is that last week. 00:12:23
Was National Law Enforcement Week. 00:12:28
Very very similar in terms of. 00:12:31
Recognizing the sacrifices and really the loss of life. 00:12:35
That our first response, but particularly the law enforcement. 00:12:39
Part of that. 00:12:44
Group, that cadre. 00:12:46
Has suffered and and and. 00:12:49
And all of the sacrifices that they make and so. 00:12:51
We want to make sure that we recognize. 00:12:55
Law enforcement, particularly in this county. 00:12:59
And particularly our Sheriff's Office. 00:13:02
But it also includes, there's also Kathy Tanvia Desso. 00:13:04
The village and the Downs. 00:13:09
So we wanted to make sure that. 00:13:11
That we mentioned that as well. 00:13:14
Also I want to mention. 00:13:16
That the Bonita Fire Department. 00:13:20
As well as nogal. 00:13:23
And the Office of Emergency Services put out a fire, Philadelphia fire, which is near Bonita Lake. 00:13:25
And it was brought to my attention from. 00:13:32
The undersheriff in particular. 00:13:36
How proud he was of the response, and how quick. 00:13:38
That that fire was put out, it could have been a horrible tragedy for this county again. 00:13:41
Don't know how it started. I talked to Aaron. 00:13:47
Before the meeting. 00:13:50
But it was of suspicious origin and. 00:13:52
Where it started. 00:13:55
Had it not been put out in as timely a fashion? 00:13:57
As it was, it could have been another tragedy for. 00:14:00
The county and the people that live here. 00:14:04
So thanks again. 00:14:07
One other thing about Law Enforcement Week, you know we lost. 00:14:09
Much earlier in the month. 00:14:15
A very valued employee. 00:14:17
Really. A family member? 00:14:19
Particularly for the Sheriff's Office, Amy. 00:14:21
And. 00:14:25
Last Friday, I had the privilege. 00:14:27
In the honor of being one of. 00:14:30
Many participants. 00:14:32
In her memorial service, which was held down in Tula Rosa. 00:14:34
And I mean, I don't know how many. 00:14:40
Police and law enforcement vehicles we had. 00:14:45
The candles lit up. 00:14:49
Virtually every. 00:14:51
Thing that ran for Lincoln County Sheriff's Office was down there. 00:14:53
We had emergency services down there with care so. 00:14:58
Fire truck down there and and an ambulance. 00:15:02
Of course the OES was there. 00:15:05
And then other agencies, State Patrol, etc. 00:15:07
Those kinds of things don't happen. 00:15:11
Without. 00:15:14
A high degree of organization. 00:15:15
And I just want to recognize Yvonne Patty for all her hard work in making that happen. It was a beautiful service. 00:15:18
One worthy of. 00:15:25
Of Amy and her memory. 00:15:27
And so thank you very much. 00:15:29
Thank you. 00:15:32
Now what we're going to do is get on to some other more. 00:15:37
Less important, but still important business. 00:15:42
And this is the presentation by King Andrews. 00:15:46
So, Jason, I'll let you take that. 00:15:49
Take over on that one. 00:15:52
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, umm. 00:15:54
So as we've stepped through this, this has been an ongoing effort. 00:15:58
Let's double over some. And there had been some. 00:16:02
Of course, not even concerned but. 00:16:09
Trying to bring this to some organization to know exactly where we are and how the process works with our. 00:16:10
Reimbursements of FEMA and DHSCM. 00:16:16
So. 00:16:19
King is our. 00:16:21
Consultant for our FEMA effort. 00:16:23
And we have sat down and gone through all of our recovery and our efforts and money that has been expended. 00:16:25
And I've asked him to kind of come and give a. 00:16:31
Comprehensive view of. 00:16:34
Where we currently sit. 00:16:36
We put in your package everything that we have spent as far as recovery. 00:16:37
Up to date. 00:16:41
During the disaster, which is what we're trying to get back and we've really done a breakdown. 00:16:44
With. 00:16:51
What's been spent and what we're going after as far as the 9,000,000 of the 77 and the breakdown and the. 00:16:53
The split. 00:16:58
The female responsibility, The county responsibility. 00:17:01
So I'm gonna let JD kind of go through this and also I've asked him to come and and before we get into the actual numbers of it. 00:17:03
He gave you all a flow chart. 00:17:10
Of how the process works and I'm liking the. 00:17:12
Kind of. 00:17:14
Summarize that. 00:17:15
And answer any questions and then we'll kind of. 00:17:17
Dive into any questions or concerns you might have regarding any of the. 00:17:19
Provided information we've provided. 00:17:23
Chairman, Commissioners, thank you for the time today to go over this. 00:17:28
The as. 00:17:31
Manager Byrne said. 00:17:34
There's a flow chart that I gave you all this morning. 00:17:35
Oh, sorry, JD King. King Industries. 00:17:39
There's a. 00:17:42
Flow chart here that that FEMA provided us to show you what. 00:17:44
Process. At what point in the process each of your projects are actually sitting right now? 00:17:48
A lot of things there's. 00:17:55
There's a lot of this initial. 00:17:56
Project development, that's already happened for everything that you've got out there. 00:17:58
Minus your mitigation projects. 00:18:02
They've been just initially cut off tonight. 00:18:04
Formally accepted by FEMA yet? 00:18:06
But as far as the. 00:18:09
Initial emergency recovery. 00:18:11
Projects. 00:18:14
Your cat is and your cat B's at the very top. 00:18:15
Those involved in. 00:18:18
Accepted by FEMA. 00:18:19
There's actually two of them have been already passed. 00:18:21
The cost comparisons and the initial. 00:18:24
CRC. 00:18:27
Phase 3 review. 00:18:28
So if you go through the schedule, you can see where phase three starts. 00:18:30
On the second line. 00:18:34
They passed that first. 00:18:36
Level, we had a few questions. 00:18:37
About. 00:18:40
How Contractor written and. 00:18:41
Just in detail of how the process worked, how how the county went forward with hiring contractors, how the county. 00:18:44
Procures different things. 00:18:50
So those were answered in both of those. 00:18:52
Large projects. 00:18:54
The right away contract has made it a little further. It's already now into peer review. 00:18:57
Which is excellent news. That means it's past the initial checks and they're happy with what. 00:19:03
The progress has been made. 00:19:07
And right now just the. 00:19:10
They require a secondary view on all projects to. 00:19:12
Make sure that they didn't miss anything. 00:19:15
So as soon as they go through peer review. 00:19:17
This one, because it's a cat A goes really fast after that. 00:19:20
Because 1 heavy insurance on. 00:19:23
Right away pick up so we don't have to worry about duplication benefits in that nature. 00:19:27
So it goes through. 00:19:31
Quality control. 00:19:33
And then? 00:19:34
Insurance. 00:19:36
There's no 404406 mitigation on this is all either. 00:19:38
Because you can't really. 00:19:41
Mitigate what happened. You can't mitigate picking up. 00:19:43
We're gonna run right away. 00:19:46
So those things go really fast. 00:19:49
And then your HP review at the same point is. 00:19:51
We didn't disturb anything. That was an argue disturbed. 00:19:54
So. 00:19:58
Once you get past this quality control, check this this peer review check. 00:19:59
It goes really fast, I'm getting reimbursed. 00:20:03
And what he's talking about is essentially just what we've already spent, we've expended this funds. 00:20:05
This is your A&B that we. 00:20:10
Spent during the disasters. 00:20:13
And this is your cat A for the right of way. This is all the. 00:20:16
During an emergency, the. 00:20:19
The road department's labor. The Sheriff's Department overtime. 00:20:21
The common. 00:20:25
What's it called the emergency to come in? 00:20:28
If the POC cost. 00:20:30
All of those are in this and then you have the breakdown of your cat bees. 00:20:32
You have the 106 which was the rear dose of bounds. 00:20:36
Portion of our county projects. 00:20:40
Your EOC cost was a cap B. This was all your swift labor, your labor and equipment. 00:20:42
You're right away. Your cat A was your. 00:20:48
Contract labor, everything that we do with so removal during the emergency. 00:20:50
And then you also have down here the 2 Cedar Creek. 00:20:54
Projects that were done there. 00:20:59
So. And that brings me up. 00:21:01
The very good point right now. 00:21:03
Is on your Federal Highways Administration back? 00:21:06
And so that changes your funding on on how that works. 00:21:09
We're currently have a meeting on Thursday to go over that with Federal Highways and dot. 00:21:14
Because with it on that map we have to go through. 00:21:18
To get Federal Highway Administration to reimburse you on those. 00:21:22
We have some questions with them as to why we have that meeting. 00:21:28
Why it's on there? 00:21:31
On their map and not on. 00:21:32
Not appealing or. 00:21:35
Not just the female recovered. It's a classification within dot and if it's becomes a certain classification, minor collector. 00:21:37
That it triggers where FEMA can't pay for it because it's eligible for Federal Highway funding in your Federal Highway funds. 00:21:45
Can't clash. 00:21:51
Yeah, I got, I got 2 questions if you don't mind so. 00:21:53
So with respect to that designation. 00:21:58
From a county standpoint. 00:22:01
Shouldn't be concerned about that. 00:22:03
Yes, Sir. That's that's something that that we're definitely concerned with as it came up we initially. 00:22:06
Pushed back and said no, that's not a collector. 00:22:12
But it is on their map. 00:22:14
And that's why we're meeting with them on. 00:22:17
On Thursday to make sure that. 00:22:19
If there's a possibility to get that removed off that map. 00:22:21
And FEMA can pay for it otherwise. 00:22:24
Because. 00:22:27
It's on federal highways. They have a set. 00:22:28
Fund if they can spend throughout the nation. 00:22:30
And. 00:22:34
We're competing with everybody as opposed to FEMA. 00:22:35
There's a jest. 00:22:38
Throughout the year as Congress. 00:22:39
See Disasters happen. 00:22:41
Federal Highways seems to have a set fund. 00:22:42
Or 11 might imagine we could still get the inverse though through the federal funds, correct? 00:22:45
It's either going to be FEMA or Federal Highway. 00:22:51
One one way or another but but what you're indicating? 00:22:54
Is that it might be more difficult to go through the. 00:22:57
The federal peace, that's what we're trying to understand right now, and it's not anything that any of us have ever done is gone 00:23:00
through federal highways for. 00:23:03
Reimbursement so. 00:23:06
And I think the meeting also on Thursday, we. 00:23:09
Talked with Jeff, Jeff and we've reviewed the road. 00:23:12
We don't feel that Cedar Creek meets the criteria for the. 00:23:15
Collector as it sits. 00:23:18
And that's what we're going to show with our data is. 00:23:20
This road doesn't meet the criteria Federal Highway agreed in. MDOT agrees. 00:23:23
We just need to change the classification to get it back to. 00:23:27
Is what we're trying to do question? 00:23:30
If you all downgrade the classification of the road, though, is that going to eliminate our opportunity for future grants? 00:23:33
Potentially. 00:23:43
But it's also something that has. 00:23:45
As the usage and as the. 00:23:49
The road comes back, we can change classification back. There's an opportunity. 00:23:54
So it's based on your real time usage of the room. 00:23:57
Or so that classification can is set to change so. 00:24:00
It could potentially affect. 00:24:04
For certain, Grant. 00:24:06
Funding for Cedar Creek. 00:24:08
But if it comes back and we start seeing a higher usage, higher traffic counts. 00:24:10
Then we take it back to its appropriate classification. 00:24:14
Any other questions? 00:24:17
There any other roads in the county that have that classification? 00:24:19
That are affected by the flooding and stuff. 00:24:22
There are. 00:24:25
Right now. 00:24:27
The actual Rigoso Downs. 00:24:28
Road is considered that that one is a. 00:24:30
Next, the main entrance to regulatory bounds. 00:24:36
To the racetrack. 00:24:40
Sorry, sorry. 00:24:42
So that one is, but we've got. 00:24:45
We've got a letter back from dot saying that it shouldn't be. 00:24:47
So we're working through that to try to clear that up. 00:24:51
Gatlin Canyon Rd. 00:24:54
He is one of them as well. 00:24:56
That was affected during the bride. 00:24:58
If we can get that one cleared off. 00:25:00
That would that would actually be able to bring back some of the projects you had on the prior that you are. 00:25:02
That one's a little bit more of a. 00:25:08
Typical heavy lift to change. 00:25:10
Because it is a pretty. 00:25:12
Substantial Rd. 00:25:13
But umm. 00:25:15
Those are the three that I know of. 00:25:16
That are affected. 00:25:18
There's also several in the village where also that were affected. 00:25:21
But. 00:25:23
They don't affect you. 00:25:24
OK, so so. 00:25:27
When we look at the. 00:25:30
A through B. 00:25:31
These FEMA categories. 00:25:33
75% is what we're looking for recovery. 00:25:35
For FEMA. 00:25:39
But what's interesting? 00:25:41
To me right now it's a 25% match. 00:25:44
Yes, Sir. So we've actually. 00:25:49
Provided or putting the application. 00:25:51
That that you all reviewed. 00:25:53
Chairman and. 00:25:56
That application is waiting for July 1st. 00:25:57
To for the new funding to be released for grant match money. 00:26:01
That application is sitting in or sitting in DFA right now. 00:26:06
Waiting for that. 00:26:10
Do we have any insight as to? 00:26:12
How that's going to be looked upon by. 00:26:15
By a DFA I. 00:26:17
I don't have any indication that they won't approve it. 00:26:19
Right now there's it's a $10 million fund that they had. Is it correct? There's actually a. 00:26:21
60 two $65 million fund that they have. 00:26:27
Yes Sir, for Grant match. 00:26:30
And. 00:26:32
You're a very small portion of that so. 00:26:33
Continue and it's also you get. You actually get. 00:26:40
They set aside a portion of that for rural communities. 00:26:44
And for tribal communities, so the fact that the. 00:26:47
This area is. 00:26:50
Both of those. 00:26:51
But they look very favorably at. 00:26:52
Madam Treasure, please, you're recognized. 00:26:54
I have a question on the category CS. There's three. 00:26:57
Projects for Cedar Creek, so depending on the outcome of that. 00:27:01
Go either to VMT or FEMA, correct? 00:27:07
Correct. Yes, Commissioner, Chairman, Commissioners. 00:27:10
Say anything Cedar Creek. 00:27:13
Is is definitely going to be affected by that if we can't get it? 00:27:16
Change that that status change. 00:27:19
That would be. 00:27:23
Any of the of the permanent repairs that we're looking at, all the. 00:27:25
And all the. 00:27:28
Asphalt and. 00:27:30
Base course would all be affected by that. 00:27:32
Continued. 00:27:42
You have a question I was going to ask if anyone has any questions regarding any of the expenditures or? 00:27:42
Let me have a breakdown regarding our cat agencies that are currently. 00:27:47
Extended that we're trying to get reimbursed. 00:27:52
Going to some of our other projects. 00:27:57
So so we. 00:28:01
I think we'll continue to want. 00:28:02
Updates as this thing progresses through the phasing. 00:28:04
Right. And then obviously the the reimbursement for the 25%? 00:28:08
Is a substantial amount of money for this county. 00:28:13
So. 00:28:16
This is an ongoing report. 00:28:19
The rotating report, right. So we'll expect to have another one in June. 00:28:21
I know there's been lots of efforts. We've had several meetings. 00:28:27
And it's an ever evolving situation. 00:28:31
And then we go through it. 00:28:33
What we're doing, we did, I'd like to report. 00:28:37
We did get. 00:28:40
The generators for the fire departments and Warrior Bridge put in on the. 00:28:41
4652 which was the two? 00:28:45
So that was due on the 14th. I really want to commend JD's folks. 00:28:50
And Jeff and his dad were getting that put together and submitted. 00:28:53
For the last little bit of money that was out there for some mitigation money. 00:28:57
And now we're going to start working on some mitigation applications for. 00:29:01
The 4795 which is now our South Park. 00:29:05
So we really did get those in. That was a good effort. 00:29:08
And hopefully that that. 00:29:10
There's some freedom on those come through, so we appreciate that very much. 00:29:12
So once again, that actually ties back to your. 00:29:20
Same match request that we. 00:29:22
Requested from. 00:29:25
The FA that. 00:29:26
Request that we put in covers. 00:29:27
Those two projects that he did is that he's talking about as well. 00:29:30
Very good. 00:29:36
And I appreciate the presentation too as well. Let's go through. 00:29:37
The rest of them if you. 00:29:41
Yes or no? So we have. 00:29:42
A bunch of your. 00:29:45
Category C Your permanent repairs. 00:29:47
Obligated. 00:29:50
And I believe actually 1 was just obligated to. 00:29:52
Jeff and Janet. 00:29:54
Work through that. 00:29:56
Yesterday and and. 00:29:57
Went ahead and. 00:29:59
Approved, Uh. 00:30:00
The final numbers on this last one that was not showing as. 00:30:01
The tall Pines. 00:30:06
I'm sorry, the Gavin Canyon area. 00:30:07
So. 00:30:09
That isn't actually Gavin Canyon Rd. that is just. 00:30:10
All the area around it. 00:30:13
All your county roads that are around that containing. 00:30:15
So they worked on that last night and I believe it's. 00:30:17
They've approved it. 00:30:20
To move forward. 00:30:21
And get obligated, but all the rest of your your projects have been obligated. 00:30:23
We are. 00:30:27
Reviewing we got. 00:30:29
The hydraulic studies back from Pettigrew. 00:30:30
This week. 00:30:34
That's all being sent around to. 00:30:35
Jeff, his department. 00:30:37
As well as being much to start reviewing. 00:30:39
What culverts is going to require if we need to upside things or if we can handle? 00:30:42
Doing things. 00:30:46
The way they currently are. 00:30:47
It's probably not the case. 00:30:49
But we conversion these. 00:30:51
At that point to actually show that. 00:30:53
Reason for upsizing and get that. 00:30:55
Get those costs added back in. 00:30:58
As of right now, just the basic costs. 00:31:00
Are a lot smaller than the estimates on these projects. 00:31:02
But we anticipate that going back up a little bit because of the upsizing and culprits that we're going to have to happen. 00:31:04
This is HNG stuff right? This is all 406 and if you don't upsize it doesn't. 00:31:11
It probably doesn't even fit that category, correct? 00:31:16
So that's. 00:31:19
Yes, there's a mitigating. 00:31:20
Festivities. 00:31:23
Does the repair replace? Yes. So yes, we have. 00:31:23
These this currently right now that's been approved is just or. 00:31:27
Created that through repairs and replace. 00:31:30
Now we're looking at, OK, do we? How do we need to size these culverts? 00:31:33
And these drainages? 00:31:36
Handle. 00:31:38
That the projected flows that are going to be coming down. 00:31:39
Due to the fire. 00:31:42
Start so. 00:31:44
So the other thing you don't mind County Southport. 00:31:49
Fire flooding response is that includes. 00:31:53
The salt fire as well. 00:31:57
Yes, Sir, it does. 00:31:58
It's all the same disaster I. 00:32:02
But because they're actually two different burn scars. 00:32:04
They're they're just discussed differently. 00:32:08
But they're they are all still the same disaster. So anything that happens. 00:32:10
Downstream. 00:32:14
Of the salt fire because it doesn't affect most of the counties. 00:32:15
Projects up here. 00:32:19
It it really refers back to that. 00:32:21
Flooding that is impacted by that I just wonder are we missing, are we missing some projects that? 00:32:23
Should be related to the soul. 00:32:28
The majority you have one project that's related to the salt. 00:32:30
That is, uh. 00:32:34
They were still trying to work with on on getting. 00:32:37
It is your bridge on Vaya. 00:32:40
Yeah. So that one we're still working with. They denied us initially. 00:32:43
To get a late. 00:32:47
Entry and we're still working through that process to try to push that project to come back. 00:32:49
Here that that was twinned, Yeah, I'm aware of that. I want to have visibility to that, that kind of activity. 00:32:56
Also an HMD effort. 00:33:03
Might be made. 00:33:06
In terms of. 00:33:08
Of trying to protect. 00:33:09
The Downs from. 00:33:11
Further fires in that area the. 00:33:13
I'm just thinking. 00:33:17
You know off the top of my head is that is that. 00:33:18
Even in the realm of possibility, it's mitigating. 00:33:21
Yes, Sir, we have a fire. 00:33:25
Vulnerability there. 00:33:28
But nothing's mentioned. 00:33:30
So that very bottom project down there. 00:33:31
Your defensible space project. 00:33:34
Visible or a thinning of unburned areas in the principle space is exactly that project. 00:33:36
So that's one going to be that one is going to be in the 4795. 00:33:41
Hazard mitigation application. 00:33:45
I'd like to see us refer to. 00:33:48
Some connection to the salt fire. Fire, yeah. 00:33:51
Because I, I, I think we're. 00:33:54
We're missing a point if we if we don't indicate. 00:33:55
How far West would that project store is? 00:34:05
Where would it stop on the east? 00:34:08
So that project, it would, it has to stay within the county boundaries. We can't go into Forest Service. 00:34:10
Commissioner and. 00:34:17
So it can it can work. 00:34:19
All the way around any county boundary. 00:34:21
What would it start like on the hillside behind J bar J? 00:34:25
Church Saturday. 00:34:29
So there is and I would have to look exactly where that boundary is, but. 00:34:30
Believe there's still property right there. 00:34:35
That is, then there's a county area. 00:34:38
Analyst that would be tribal area. 00:34:41
You know on analytically. 00:34:43
So yes, we can. We can look at all those different things. 00:34:47
It's going to require landowner permission is where a lot of that. 00:34:50
Hinges on so the because you're working on private property. 00:34:54
To protect public infrastructure. 00:34:58
You still have to have. 00:35:00
The permission from the private land owners to get on there. 00:35:02
I want to have a meeting with. 00:35:05
Laura McCarthy. 00:35:08
Next week I believe it is. 00:35:10
And and Nick Smokevich. 00:35:12
And that's the kind of information that I want to. 00:35:15
Gather from them and push. 00:35:17
To make that interface. 00:35:19
Not just on private property, but I want it on the floor service property and. 00:35:21
The tribe. So we'll get the tribe engaged in that too. 00:35:26
It's critical and I'm sure that they would support it. 00:35:29
Yes, Sir, understood that and. 00:35:32
Speaking with with Miss Dash. 00:35:37
Commissioner, the. 00:35:39
There's several people that are looking into that and and there's actually some grants that Forest Service is looking at doing. 00:35:42
To actually do something on that boundary area. 00:35:48
So I know that there's a lot of. 00:35:52
Interest in getting that boundary area protected. 00:35:54
I just don't have a lot of coverage on. 00:35:57
Understanding of what those grants are is put some focus on there. 00:35:58
The next fires tomorrow, remember. 00:36:03
What we? 00:36:05
Anything else? 00:36:08
Know that we we did submit all the costs. 00:36:13
Documents in DL Packers. 00:36:15
So if there's any questions, if you find something that you want to specifically discuss. 00:36:17
Individually, we can we can sit down with you all and discuss those. 00:36:22
And uh. 00:36:26
Go over anything, any questions you have but. 00:36:27
That's every document. 00:36:29
Evergreen Boys. 00:36:31
That we've done so far. Ellen spreadsheets to. 00:36:33
Go over. 00:36:36
Each of those projects are over spin. 00:36:37
No commissioners anything else? 00:36:42
I just have a comment. I really appreciate this level of detail. This is what we've been after for almost a year now. 00:36:46
And so we really appreciate the hard work yielded on this agenda. 00:36:52
Manager Burns, he was the one that really pushed for. 00:37:01
Spending the time and going through the level of detail date. 00:37:03
That was asked for. 00:37:06
Yeah, very good. 00:37:09
Thank you very much. 00:37:10
OK, next agenda item then. 00:37:14
I opened a company. 00:37:18
Mr. Rd. Superintendent, I think this is your presentation. 00:37:20
Chairman Fisher Commissioners Jeff Honeycutt, Lincoln County Road Superintendent. 00:37:38
This is going to be. 00:37:42
Presentation from the structural bridge engineers from Wilson and Company. 00:37:44
They did go out and do enough evaluation of the bridges that the county owns. 00:37:49
The majority of them were in the Hangzhou Valley. 00:37:53
The three that we're going to be speaking to today, we did do a full. 00:37:56
Report on all the bridges. That was 111 page document. 00:38:01
This ones broken out for about 27 pages. 00:38:05
And it will address the L via Loop East. 00:38:09
Bridge, also Tully and Felix. 00:38:12
Month annual bridge. 00:38:15
I have Carlos and Sherman here with Wilson and company. 00:38:18
And they'll be here to answer any of those technical questions that have come up. 00:38:21
Recently, uh. 00:38:26
And Carlos, I'll turn it over to you guys. 00:38:27
Awesome. 00:38:29
Chairman, Commissioners, appreciate your time today. 00:38:30
Yeah, at the end of March. March. 00:38:33
Carlos Segal. 00:38:36
Thank you. At the end of March, from the 24th and the 26th, we went out and evaluated behind Bridges. 00:38:38
That were Lincoln County responsibility and we wanted to. 00:38:45
Provides **** or priority lists of. 00:38:49
The issues that the British had and what many would think recommendations are for repair, replace. 00:38:51
From that initial inspection, initial evaluation. 00:38:57
We came up with Three Bridges right off the top that. 00:39:01
We wanted to to highlight. 00:39:04
We'll we'll go in order. We can start with the now violent E Bridge. 00:39:06
Typically as we we went through the inspection and noticed. 00:39:12
You know, kind of your typical. 00:39:15
Carpet repair and some work that needs to be done at. 00:39:17
According to the Bridge. 00:39:22
I think if we jump to. 00:39:23
I think we should buy there. Page 5. 00:39:27
The issue, the significant issue that we noted. 00:39:30
Was the deflection of the standard Pierre. 00:39:33
We could see here this image is that that pairs deflecting southward. 00:39:36
Which is resulting in an imbalanced load that's being applied to that. 00:39:40
To the, to the support, to those, to those piles of that bridge. As we went along with that evaluation and we kept looking, I 00:39:44
figure 2.9. 00:39:48
We also noted there was some section loss on those steel piles. 00:39:53
So this is coupled with. 00:39:57
Data balance, loading and. 00:39:59
Let us the conclusion that we're losing capacity at that, Pierre. 00:40:00
And that this bridge. 00:40:04
In the operating added. 00:40:05
Capacity a little further on Figure 210 shows a little bit more that section loss. 00:40:08
And some of that deflection that we're noticing there at that center pier. 00:40:13
And further on there. 00:40:17
To 11 we're noticing also some. 00:40:19
Vertical cracking in the in the girders. 00:40:23
Which is ultimately or most likely. 00:40:25
As a result of due to that pair movement. 00:40:28
From that deflection appears most likely. 00:40:31
Lowering or dropping a bit. And so that's also causing the superstructure in those burdens as well. 00:40:33
Given all that. 00:40:39
That we were noticed there from that bridge. 00:40:40
We had made the recommendation to remove heavy traffic off this bridge. 00:40:43
And had a low posting. 00:40:47
Are advising to low post the bridge that had between 5 to 10 tons. 00:40:49
I think from this. 00:40:54
What we noted is that. 00:40:55
The capacity of the pier is is in question that we. 00:40:57
Ensure that. 00:41:00
In the public safety that we we keep. 00:41:01
The loads off this branch and kind of restrict it to traffic based on. 00:41:04
Whether it's you pass your vehicles or pickup trucks, but to reduce the heavy load that the bridge is. 00:41:08
Sherman Pearson was. 00:41:13
Actually with us there for that inspection, I don't know if there's anything, Sherman that you'd like to add that I might have 00:41:14
missed them. 00:41:17
That bridge? 00:41:20
No. Well, there is one other condition that I wanted to point out. 00:41:22
Listening Company. 00:41:28
Chairman. Commissioners. 00:41:31
One thing that I wanted to go back to when you go back to page 5. 00:41:34
One thing that we notice in addition to the lean up appear. 00:41:41
Is there is a significant amount of? 00:41:45
Debris that has accumulated on the north side of the pier Which? 00:41:48
Pushing against it. 00:41:52
And in addition to the loss of capacity. 00:41:53
At the pier during the section loss, we also have. 00:41:57
Imbalance condition is. 00:42:03
Being exacerbated by this. 00:42:06
The breed that's pushing on the pure. 00:42:09
Laterally. 00:42:11
What? What was that? What was the grading of that bridge prior to? 00:42:12
Let's let's say in a. 00:42:18
What was the rating? 00:42:20
The design condition was for an HS20 which is a 36 ton truck. 00:42:22
With three, three sets of axles. 00:42:28
And. 00:42:32
So yeah, that's the that, that was the original capacity. 00:42:37
So so. 00:42:41
The damage is obvious. 00:42:44
Needs to be replaced. 00:42:46
Here's here's our. 00:42:48
Several other things. 00:42:51
A standard. 00:42:54
One time pickup truck. 00:42:56
Is about, you know, 12,000. 00:42:59
13,000 lbs. 00:43:02
Right. So we're talking about 6 * 6 seven times. 00:43:04
Yes. So you, you, you were. 00:43:07
You're almost recommending. 00:43:10
That we can't drive one time pickups across there. 00:43:13
From now from from. 00:43:18
From your point of view up. 00:43:20
$0.10 right? 00:43:22
Yeah, my. 00:43:23
I guess. 00:43:26
I'm trying to. 00:43:26
Thread the needle be. 00:43:29
Between public safety and the and the. 00:43:31
The bridge. 00:43:33
And and the ability for people to actually live on the other side. 00:43:35
To actually continue to live. 00:43:40
These trucks are carrying feed. 00:43:43
That. 00:43:45
Trailers with livestock. 00:43:47
So we're going to exceed. 00:43:49
Very easily. 00:43:51
10 times. 00:43:53
My question from an engineering standpoint. 00:43:56
I'm asking for your expertise. 00:43:58
As if those loads are spread out over multiple axes. Think of. 00:44:01
You know we've got 8 tons on a truck. 00:44:05
Distech trailer on the fax double. 00:44:09
Spread out, maybe another 20. 00:44:11
Feet or so. 00:44:14
That's a spread load. 00:44:15
Maybe of 20 tons. 00:44:17
Something like that. 00:44:19
It seems to me it. 00:44:21
Possible. 00:44:22
That we could. 00:44:24
Run in that condition until we replace that bridge within a year or so. 00:44:24
Because when I look at your recommendation, it says something words. 00:44:30
In order to preserve the bridge, we need to derate it. 00:44:34
I wonder if I'm not interested in preserving the bridge. 00:44:38
For longer than. 00:44:41
A period of time. 00:44:43
That you know this is all guesstimates I understand, but. 00:44:45
You know. 00:44:50
If we were going to run a fire truck or EMS trucks down there. 00:44:51
Or just the fact of living. 00:44:55
People with livestock who have to live on the other side and take care of. 00:44:58
Of a property and. 00:45:02
They're going to have to come back and forth. 00:45:04
There's no other. 00:45:06
There's no other reasonable alternative. 00:45:07
For them. 00:45:12
So what am I asking? 00:45:14
I'm asking. 00:45:17
I think we can exceed some of those. 00:45:18
Engineering safeguards that you're suggesting Very. 00:45:21
Very conservative. I understand engineering can't make measurements. 00:45:24
You know, right now I think it says 10 tons on there. 00:45:30
That's just very. 00:45:34
That's efficient. 00:45:38
Well, it sounds very conservative. 00:45:39
One thing that. 00:45:42
So they went into our thought process to come up with that is you look at the section loss at the center pier. 00:45:45
And say you've lost 20% of your cross section. 00:45:52
That means you've lost. 00:45:58
20% of the load carrying capacity. 00:45:59
Of those piles at that center pier. 00:46:02
That doesn't mean your live Rd. dropped by 20%. 00:46:06
Because the bridge still has to carry the entire live load we can't take. 00:46:10
Or the devil. We can't take 20% of the dead load off the bridge. 00:46:16
So instead of our load capacity going down by. 00:46:20
20%. 00:46:25
We're looking at. 00:46:26
Decrease in libel capacity of closer to 40 to 50%. 00:46:28
Which takes us down from 36 tons to 18. 00:46:33
Right there. 00:46:36
And that's not even considering the lateral loads that are being superimposed on this pier. 00:46:38
That it wasn't designed for. 00:46:43
And so that gets you closer to. 00:46:45
I have a question. 00:46:51
Yes. Is there a temporary fix that we can actually do on that bridge? 00:46:52
Incorporated a little bit. 00:46:59
Till we can consider the funding and. 00:47:01
I don't think so, and the reason why I say that is. 00:47:07
It is in a very difficult location to try to fix. 00:47:09
This is carrying. 00:47:13
Basically all blown from the middle portion of the bridge from. 00:47:15
Metal Upstand Lungs Metal stand 2. 00:47:19
As it is the location, I don't know where you. 00:47:22
So. 00:47:25
And that also speaks to your point as far as spreading out the axis. 00:47:26
It would help somewhat, but it wouldn't help a whole lot because there's. 00:47:31
It's still all going to the center pier. 00:47:36
Unless you've spread way out over 100 feet. 00:47:38
To get more of the loads out of the abutments and I don't think. 00:47:41
That's what we're talking about here. 00:47:45
There's two things that we could do to maybe. 00:47:51
Assess how we could. 00:47:54
Increase that posting, but it's going to have to be posted. 00:47:57
At somewhere below. 00:48:00
The 36 ton truck the age is 20 truck. 00:48:02
And the two things that you could do. 00:48:05
Is 1 get it, get in there and eliminate that unbalanced condition that's get rid of that debris that's. 00:48:09
Pushing on the side of the pier. 00:48:16
And that would. 00:48:18
That would at least. 00:48:21
Reduce that unbalanced condition. 00:48:24
So it doesn't do anything for the damage that's been done, however. 00:48:27
Understand. That's understandable also. 00:48:32
So my greatest concern is the emergency vehicles going across that day. 00:48:34
So we have fire trucks we have there. 00:48:39
On the on the West side of that. 00:48:41
Here's a. 00:48:43
A lot of people that live on the other side of that bridge, you know? 00:48:45
So emergency vehicles, ambulances, fire trucks. 00:48:48
ETC. 00:48:52
That would that's my greatest concern about them going across that bridge. 00:48:53
Stately. 00:48:57
Yeah. And that that that's a concern for us as well as we went out and assessed the condition of this bridge. 00:49:00
Elvia, Lou. 00:49:09
Loops around. 00:49:10
And. 00:49:11
About 3 miles to the West. 00:49:14
That with about 2 1/2. 00:49:16
To the West is the other outlet. 00:49:20
Large trucks would have to go there. 00:49:22
And that would include. 00:49:26
A large fire engine, now something like a smaller size. 00:49:29
Fire truck like for example, the firefighting vehicles. 00:49:33
Or service use. 00:49:36
Could probably use that E bridge. 00:49:38
On an emergency basis. 00:49:40
A brush could. 00:49:43
Could possibly go across. 00:49:44
What is the brush trucks cleaner? 00:49:45
Somewhere right around probably 10,000 lbs. 00:49:49
That would work. 00:49:56
So basically you're telling me that? 00:50:00
Look at the get the get the weight off the center pier and all that stuff. 00:50:03
Clean and replace. 00:50:09
Complainant evaluates. 00:50:13
Yeah, yes, to to evaluate this and that gets to my second point, The other thing that we can do. 00:50:15
To put a fine point on the evaluation is to actually. 00:50:22
To see if we can get a measurement of how much section loss has actually happened. 00:50:26
Whether we're on the north side or the South side of 20% goes a long way towards determining. 00:50:31
What that reduced load? 00:50:37
Rating would be. 00:50:39
So I'm looking at your photo right here. 00:50:40
So. 00:50:43
You have you have appliance to this bridge. 00:50:45
And what kind of foundation is set in the center of the? 00:50:47
That bridge, so if we cleaned out the debris on both sides of that center column. 00:50:51
To and get the flow back to the center of the channel on one side or the other. 00:50:56
You could you could reevaluate this bridge. 00:51:00
Yes, you know, I think. 00:51:03
Based on. 00:51:05
You have to take into consideration the current damages there, correct? 00:51:08
But I do believe, yeah, we're able to. 00:51:11
Clean it up a bit. I think it alleviates some of that pressure that's. 00:51:14
Being exhibited on it with that debris that's pressing on the side of it and so. 00:51:17
I think it. 00:51:21
It would give us another chance absolutely to take a look and see if there's things we can do to. 00:51:22
Increase that rating. 00:51:27
As well as, like Sherman said, going out and. 00:51:28
Observing what that sexual loss is and trying to get a more. 00:51:31
A more definite number of what that percentage of that section loss is if we go out and. 00:51:36
Were able to. 00:51:40
To look and see maybe it's not at around 20% is what they're kind of assumed now. 00:51:41
We can go back to evaluate and see if there's there's ways that we can increase that already. 00:51:45
But ultimately, it'll have to be. 00:51:50
Lower than the 36 times that it was initially designed for. 00:51:52
Understandable. 00:51:56
Let's see if we can. 00:51:57
Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Chavez, we are working within our CS right now to get that debris cleaned up and to armor some of 00:52:01
those areas around the pier. 00:52:05
So we want to put that waterway back where it was supposed to be originally. 00:52:10
So that is in the process right now. Perfect. And you have a question. 00:52:14
An operation standpoint, is it possible to put up like temporary adjustable steer? 00:52:20
Like to shore it up? 00:52:26
In the meantime. 00:52:27
German Fisher Commissioner Serna, we can. We need to clean the debris up first. 00:52:29
That way we can see and then of course I would need to get the recommendation from the. 00:52:34
Structural guys to see what would be. 00:52:38
Best practice for that. 00:52:40
But I think the first step is getting the debris cleaned up and get the water flow back to where. 00:52:43
Originally General. General. 00:52:48
Do we have signage up right? 00:52:49
We just, yes, we do have our weight limit signs up right now. 00:52:52
The low gradients are there posted. 00:52:58
Two on each side of the bridge. 00:53:00
So this has to become a. 00:53:02
A major priority. 00:53:05
For users, for those people that live in that area. 00:53:07
So we expect to have something very concrete. 00:53:11
Any other questions on this particular? 00:53:21
Let's move on. 00:53:26
I'll kind of combine the next two I think totally and and. 00:53:28
Ultimately, I think as we went through. 00:53:37
Inspection again, kind of your typical. 00:53:39
Some people care throughout the bridge. 00:53:42
The big issue on tolling was that the the guardrail. 00:53:45
That's fair, and the president is. 00:53:48
He catching from. 00:53:51
The bridge itself. 00:53:52
And ultimately even the configuration of the bridge. 00:53:53
With its double T at the double T beam bridge structure. 00:53:58
It becomes very difficult to attach surveillance to the side. 00:54:02
And so it's a part of our recommendation. 00:54:06
Lots of you know. 00:54:08
Copy my parents. 00:54:10
With the big one for this and the flashing safety feature attaching a rail. 00:54:11
The issue that becomes. 00:54:15
With Tully is that. 00:54:17
It's hard to attach something to the side and so having to attach. 00:54:19
I rolling to the top of the deck. 00:54:22
Is doable, but at the same time the width of the bridge is only 12 feet wide as it is now. 00:54:24
So a typical. 00:54:29
Railing now is about 3, about 1 foot and a half wide. 00:54:31
Doing that on both sides would narrow that bridge down to about 9 feet. 00:54:34
And I think if you look at that policeman Tonya, it's kind of the same thing there. 00:54:38
Railing is is insufficient. 00:54:42
Some of the the timber posts and guardrail is just outdated and. 00:54:45
And not really going to stop a vehicle if something was really good. It doesn't have decent speed. 00:54:49
But again given the the width of the bridges which is around fluffy as well. 00:54:54
Putting a mountable rail on that with. 00:54:59
Reduce the width of that bridge to about we're not even compromised the structural integrity and additionally the the the weight 00:55:02
of the rail would reduce or raining attached as well as it's not. 00:55:07
Most likely not designed to be paying that time. 00:55:13
A more robust rail, which is. 00:55:16
Probably why it's kind of that timber railing that's there within the first place. 00:55:17
So those are the, I think the two. 00:55:22
Well, the big issue on that was, you know. 00:55:25
Like to update the safety features, but how do we go about that? 00:55:28
To try to keep that that bridge with as wide as possible to be able to. 00:55:31
To keep you know. 00:55:35
Something around the 10 foot width. 00:55:37
Standard. 00:55:40
So within our. 00:55:41
Recommendation. We do have a replacement option for the 17 foot wide bridge. 00:55:44
This would allow for. 00:55:49
A 10 foot lane to. 00:55:51
2 foot shoulders and 1 foot 6 barriers on each side as well. 00:55:53
Chairman Fisher, if I could. Carlos, is this a different type of structure than what we're looking at? And they'll buy you. 00:56:00
Yeah, this is a double TV bridge. 00:56:06
You see these a lot with versions that were built in about the 1960s. 00:56:10
And it's essentially a beam and the beam is acting both as you deck at your superstructure. There's no material that's kind of 00:56:15
connecting these views together. It's just kind of. 00:56:19
The two beings really on on policeman. 00:56:25
Convenient. And you can see the separation kind of between the two. It's almost acting. It's two separate bridges. 00:56:28
Ultimately again in in relatively. 00:56:34
It's just the the railing that that's a concern if somebody was to get it if it. 00:56:37
It would really do its job and. 00:56:41
The vehicle on the road. 00:56:44
Structurally, how strong are these compared to the? 00:56:45
The one that we're looking at on the loop. 00:56:48
Li and Luke East. 00:56:50
With the peer. 00:56:51
Well, there's no issue with with low ratings or anything like that, I think. 00:56:53
I can dive into the inspection reports, but. 00:56:57
I don't want to say they were all rated first for that 36 times. 00:57:01
So all of them were built with that Ashto standard in mind with the HS20, correct? For the most part, I think getting back to the. 00:57:05
In the 60s, I think it was an age 20 track, so it was a little bit smaller. 00:57:12
But as far as what they had included in the inspection report, they didn't have any issues with their local super. 00:57:17
We have seen a variety of postings up and down this. 00:57:23
Corridor so we could assume that these were all built to that HS 27. 00:57:26
For the most part, yes. The one exception to that would be bridge. 00:57:34
What I was thinking about rating. 00:57:40
I saw that, yeah. We do not believe that that was designed to a HS20. That's a. 00:57:43
Very own bridge. 00:57:50
And that may be a. 00:57:51
HS15 or possibly even an HS 10. 00:57:54
Looking at the lovely ones that we're seeing for that structure. 00:57:58
I had it. It was. 00:58:03
Just a touch over 17 tons. 00:58:05
For Coatbridge, and that's coming from there. 00:58:07
Inspection report. 00:58:10
I found some old pictures chairman from. 00:58:12
Several years ago that had that. 00:58:14
Coal Bridge, Perry Springs Rated. 00:58:17
Very low, lower than what we've been talking about you. 00:58:19
So I just wanted. I was trying to get to. 00:58:25
Where we could actually put a realistic number to these other bridges. 00:58:27
We'll continue. 00:58:35
Is that it? I, I think so. I think that you know. 00:58:37
Out of the three that that we have listed, the other 6. 00:58:39
We did provide an initial draft. We're still working on kind of refining some of the estimates that we have for for repair 00:58:43
options. 00:58:46
But out of those six there, there wasn't really anything significant. 00:58:50
Outside of your typical concrete repair. 00:58:54
Replacing rail or adding rail? 00:58:57
And kind of getting somebody what to maybe some of the scalar and similar. 00:58:59
You know some of the water issues that we're seeing there within, within the channels. 00:59:04
Well, I thank you. We don't have any more questions I would make. 00:59:12
Comment and the comment is is that. 00:59:15
It's a violent bridge. 00:59:18
We've got to come up with the solutions. We've got to think out of Bob. 00:59:21
And and I would. 00:59:27
Just encourage us to do that. 00:59:28
And see if there's something else. May, obviously. 00:59:30
Clearing out the debris around the deflected center pier, that's important. We all knew that. We we knew that. 00:59:34
Four months ago, at least. 00:59:40
When we went down and looked at it bro. 00:59:41
So that should be done. Should already be done. 00:59:44
But I'm very interested in. 00:59:46
Some of the other options that perhaps. 00:59:49
Commissioner Chavez is thinking about and that's that's really. 00:59:52
Is it possible? 00:59:56
To build some other peers. 00:59:58
In there. 01:00:01
In such a way that we don't. 01:00:02
Impede the flow of the river #1 because. 01:00:04
Caused another problem. 01:00:08
But but also provide a whole worth. 01:00:09
Well, that that center fear does fail. 01:00:12
It'll have something to rest on, sure. 01:00:15
Why? You can imagine you could have some deflection, further deflection of the actual. 01:00:18
The surface itself. 01:00:23
It ends up resting on something far more substantial. 01:00:25
And let her appear. 01:00:28
So I encourage you all to look at those kinds of solutions. 01:00:29
And come back. 01:00:33
To this Commission. 01:00:34
With a recommendation. 01:00:36
Because we have to get. 01:00:37
Emergency vehicles there. 01:00:39
We all have to allow people to live and continue to be productive in their own homes and property. 01:00:41
And this is a major. 01:00:47
Lincoln County project that has to be addressed. 01:00:49
So. 01:00:53
There's nothing else to do. Thank you. 01:00:55
Thank you. Thank you. 01:00:59
We have 30 minutes before. 01:01:03
Public hearing, so I'd like to go to. 01:01:07
Is that permission to move things around? If necessary, I'd like to go to. 01:01:11
Section 3. The action items approval of minutes. 01:01:16
Number one. 01:01:21
Do you have any comments or questions on this, those minutes? 01:01:23
Let's go with the. 01:01:28
18-25. 01:01:30
I make a motion to approve the special meeting. 01:01:41
Minutes for 4/8/25. 01:01:45
Hold on a second. 01:01:47
Yeah, we're going to individually because that up. 01:01:51
I request for my opinion on platform but. 01:01:55
Aye, Commissioner Sarna. 01:02:05
Commissioner Chavez. Commissioner Wilson Fisher. 01:02:08
Let's go to 4/15/25, the regular meeting minutes there. Do we have any? 01:02:14
Additions, changes, questions. 01:02:18
Hearing none, do we have a motion to accept the those meeting minutes? 01:02:24
I make a motion to adjust the meeting minutes for 4/15/25. 01:02:29
2nd. 01:02:34
One second. 01:02:36
Commissioner Thomas. Commissioner Wilson. 01:02:38
Aye, Commissioner Fisher. 01:02:45
Alright, OK. 01:02:48
Thank you. 01:02:51
So special meeting minutes for 4/20? 01:02:52
525I just had a. 01:02:55
I had a small. 01:02:58
What I think is a. 01:03:00
Hopefully a correction. 01:03:02
If you look at line. 01:03:04
Number 10. 01:03:05
3. 01:03:07
Says Treasurer. Treasurer Huddleston was in support. 01:03:10
Of the Sheriff's Department as well. 01:03:13
I think she meant to say office. 01:03:16
I would like to. 01:03:20
See it's offices for church Department, Yes. 01:03:21
There's no such thing. 01:03:24
That was my only exception on that. 01:03:30
You agree you're good. 01:03:34
We have a motion to accept those. 01:03:39
Special meeting minutes as amended. 01:03:41
I will make a motion. 01:03:48
And that we proved a special meeting. 01:03:51
4/25/25. 01:03:53
With changes. 01:03:56
Thank you. 01:04:13
Let's move on to monthly accounts payable payroll. 01:04:14
Report, April 2025. 01:04:17
Miss Guilvera. 01:04:22
Good morning, Chairman Fisher. 01:04:34
Finance Director. 01:04:37
I'm requesting your approval and account payroll and payroll reports submitted. 01:04:39
For the month of April. 01:04:43
We spent $8,156,509.12. 01:04:46
For the month of April. 01:04:54
And by. 01:04:55
5 million. 01:04:56
Just so you know. 01:04:58
$5,432,464.85 went to. 01:05:00
Southwest Contracting for the NRCS. 01:05:06
So I believe. 01:05:10
Running fine for the month of April. 01:05:13
I stand for a question. 01:05:17
We had one check for Wilson and company. 01:05:25
For 14 million 912. 01:05:28
Sorry that that 5 million is golden, right? 01:05:31
For them, OK. 01:05:34
And if you guys notice on your reports, we're using half. 01:05:37
Triadic and half Tyler. 01:05:40
So we're learning how to use the reports. We'll try to get better reports next month. 01:05:42
How much so do we have a motion to accept? 01:05:53
The resolution. 01:06:00
We need a motion to. 01:06:11
You see that? 01:06:14
Yeah, I need a motion to approve the accounts payable payroll. 01:06:22
As presented. 01:06:26
I'd like to make a motion that we approve the monthly accounts payable activity before April 2025. 01:06:29
Aye. 01:06:47
Thank you. 01:06:50
Next is. 01:06:53
Consideration to award P. 01:06:56
24.5 That is 009. 01:06:59
Mr. Morrod. 01:07:03
Presenting uh. 01:07:04
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, Mr. Marauder. 01:07:06
Called Instant this morning, so he's not here this morning. 01:07:09
But with that, we're going to go ahead and present this. 01:07:11
To your consideration. 01:07:13
This is RFP2425-9 for on call engineering, architectural, surveying and environmental services. 01:07:15
Mr. Morrod advertised this. 01:07:23
In the local newspapers and on the website in March. 01:07:26
And then we did. 01:07:29
Accept 6 proposals. 01:07:31
From qualified firms, they were reviewed and deemed responsive. 01:07:34
And we had a. 01:07:38
Committee Evaluate. 01:07:40
The proposals that were received. 01:07:42
And have a recommendation to you today as a multi award to a row award? 01:07:45
All six proposers that submitted to the county on the turn on the. 01:07:49
Essentially. 01:07:56
For the benefit of the county. 01:07:57
Schedule time cost. 01:07:59
It's in our best benefit to have multiple sources of professional services. 01:08:02
So, and this was Mr. Honeycutt's. 01:08:06
Firepiece will let him. 01:08:08
Make any comments on it. 01:08:10
Chairman Fisher, Commissioners, Yeah, we do want to award we'll have there's four engineering firms. 01:08:13
On here and also to architectural firms. 01:08:18
That we would like to award and that just gives us the leeway to. 01:08:21
Kind of shop what we want to do and give us the availability to kind of get things done a little bit. 01:08:26
Quicker than. 01:08:30
We typically be able to. 01:08:32
I recommend that we award. 01:08:35
All things that we scored. 01:08:37
Affiliate that. 01:08:40
That way of doing business. 01:08:42
We've had problems in the past where they didn't have a bandwidth. 01:08:43
And we didn't have what we would call. 01:08:47
Price uncertainty to understand. 01:08:51
We didn't know what. 01:08:55
What the value of the product that we were getting and we had no comparison so good. 01:08:56
I would. 01:09:01
Entertain a motion to. 01:09:03
Approve this RFP. 01:09:06
Mr. Chair, I move that we approve RP24-205-9. Q. 01:09:09
All six responsive proposers. 01:09:15
For the on call engineering and architectural surveying and environmental services. 01:09:19
Thank you. Do we have a second? 01:09:25
And clerk, Bill call, please. 01:09:28
Commissioner Cowan. 01:09:31
Yes, Mr. Wilson. 01:09:32
Commissioner Fraser. 01:09:34
Aye, Chair Fischer. 01:09:37
All right. Thank you. 01:09:38
Thank you. 01:09:39
Very good. 01:09:40
OK, the next one is is similar but different. 01:09:42
Right. So, so this is consideration to cancel our P 2425 that's 007. 01:09:45
And. 01:09:54
Then advertise RFP 24.5. 01:09:55
Dash 01. 01:09:58
0. 01:10:01
And again, this is next. I'll give it to you, Mr. Manager. 01:10:02
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 01:10:05
Yes, like you said, this is one that had been previously brought before you. 01:10:07
It's your April 15th meeting and there was some discussion and questions regarding this RFP. 01:10:13
With the direction to go back and review. 01:10:19
What was on the table? 01:10:23
So. 01:10:25
The recommendation that we're bringing to review. 01:10:26
And discussion is that. 01:10:30
RP242507. 01:10:32
Is in need of some revisions. 01:10:35
To best suit the county's needs and requests for our. 01:10:37
Upcoming workload. 01:10:42
So that we would request. 01:10:44
That we cancel for an RFP 20. 01:10:46
25 That's 007 for electrical maintenance services. 01:10:49
And that we approve. 01:10:53
The staff to advertise. 01:10:56
RFP 2425010. 01:10:59
For on call electrical services, which will be a revised version of the RP that was previously. 01:11:03
And if I might add the intent of that. 01:11:08
Not only is to to fix. 01:11:11
A problem of perceived problem that we had with 07. 01:11:13
But it will allow us to have multiple. 01:11:16
Multiple vendors available. 01:11:19
Different, right? So it's the same sort of thing. 01:11:21
Than we did with with the other RP. 01:11:24
So I would entertain a motion. 01:11:28
To to cancel. 01:11:30
For 007. 01:11:33
And then to advertise. 01:11:34
For 010. 01:11:37
I'll make a motion to cancel RFP 2425. 01:11:45
007 for electrical maintenance and to. 01:11:50
Advertised for RFP in 2425010. 01:11:54
The on call electric services 2nd. 01:12:00
I know you know what to do. 01:12:05
Commissioner Chavez. 01:12:10
Yes, Commissioner Prater. 01:12:11
Aye, Commissioner. Center Commissioner Wilson Chair. 01:12:13
All right. Thank you. 01:12:16
Next one on the agenda. 01:12:20
This is kind of neat. 01:12:23
And we'll ask. 01:12:25
There, I'm going to go ahead and leave something. 01:12:28
Good morning, Chairman, Fisher, Commissioners and everyone. Services record. 01:12:31
So what we're looking at here is a. 01:12:36
Memorandum of Understanding with the New Mexico State Fire Marshall's Office. 01:12:38
So just recently, the Mexico State Fire Marshall's office hired an investigator that lives here locally. 01:12:42
He lives in the Alto area. 01:12:47
This is a huge step for us because typically when we call for a fire investigator, we're waiting for one to come out of Dimming 01:12:49
reserves Santa Fe. 01:12:53
Sometimes it's taken 4 to 6 hours to get a fire investigator to the county. 01:12:57
So this is going to be a huge step. 01:13:02
For us having one here locally. 01:13:03
With that and it helps shut down response times and so this individual isn't having to go to Santa Fe to be. 01:13:06
House, they have asked for us to enter into this MOU to provide them a test at the. 01:13:11
Fire Edmond office which is Copper Ridge. 01:13:17
That way that person can work out of there when he's not responding to calls. 01:13:19
And we have him right there. If he's available, we pick up the phone, we call him. 01:13:23
45 minutes anywhere in the county we have a fire investigation. 01:13:28
Got a question? So this is no. 01:13:34
No cost to the county at all. Now we're just giving them some a little bit of real estate to do his job. 01:13:36
Yes, Sir. And we're going to put him at the desk that's up front by the printer. They're more than happy with that. 01:13:41
Give them enough space to work doesn't interfere with our daily operations. 01:13:47
And he's just. 01:13:51
Kind of an addition to the office. 01:13:53
Absolutely. 01:13:59
Entertain a motion then. 01:14:01
There's another questions. 01:14:03
To approve this. 01:14:05
Mr. Chairman, I move, we approve the. 01:14:07
Among you between West State Fire Marshall. 01:14:09
That doesn't calculate it. Thank you to have a second. 01:14:12
2nd. 01:14:16
Please. 01:14:20
Commissioner Wilson, Yes. 01:14:25
Commissioner Chavez, Mr. Chair. 01:14:26
Aye. 01:14:29
Thank you. 01:14:30
So the next one. 01:14:33
It's kind of neat. I like this as well. 01:14:36
Consideration of Agreement 1547. 01:14:38
We've got Finley's going to give us a brief on this particular. 01:14:41
Agreement. 01:14:47
Chairman, Commissioners. Lieutenant Justin with the Sheriff's Office. 01:14:49
The riddles are down racetrack. 01:14:54
And casino approached us. 01:14:57
A little while back. 01:15:00
Requesting our assistance to work their racing events for the upcoming season. 01:15:01
That probably concludes around Labor Day. 01:15:07
The way. 01:15:12
The agreement was drafted, you know, being similar. 01:15:13
Pretty much the same as any other agreements that we work. 01:15:16
Like or any other special events. 01:15:20
So. 01:15:25
What would What would happen is the? 01:15:26
The deputies would sign up for overtime and it's purely on a voluntary basis. 01:15:29
But deputies will sign up for overtime and then work. 01:15:33
Those those events. 01:15:36
A couple of things to highlight in the agreement itself. 01:15:39
We're not some racetrack. 01:15:45
And we're also down to race track and casino wood. 01:15:47
Compensate the entire overtime cost for the hours work. 01:15:51
So line number 2. 01:15:57
It would be up to 85 hours per identity, which includes. 01:15:59
The highest paid? 01:16:03
Position in the county. 01:16:04
I mean in the sheriff's. 01:16:06
Another thing to. 01:16:10
To point out. 01:16:12
That the Sheriff's Office. 01:16:13
Would would make a complete manager of control of all. 01:16:15
All deputies that. 01:16:19
We're just there. 01:16:21
As preservers of the peace. 01:16:23
As a visible presence to. 01:16:24
To make sure that does happen. 01:16:27
We would be able to respond. 01:16:30
Would we do it in with our presence thoroughly? 01:16:33
Hopefully submit. 01:16:36
Prevent something from happening in the first place. 01:16:37
Any questions, Commissioner? 01:16:43
No cost to the county. 01:16:47
A little bit overtime for the deputies. 01:16:49
And some visibility for the Sheriff's Office and. 01:16:52
Good order and peace. I just have one quick question. Yes, Sir. 01:16:57
About how many deputies per event? 01:17:00
We we would probably. 01:17:02
Have up to four different per event. But like I said, it's it's a truly on a voluntary basis. 01:17:05
If we if we start mandating overtime, we get into the weeds on some other issues. 01:17:10
OK. Sorry I would if there are other questions I would ever say a motion to. 01:17:20
Approve an agreement. 01:17:26
With the understanding that the the race track. 01:17:29
The representative has not signed it yet, no. 01:17:33
But as long we approve this agreement. 01:17:35
With signatures. 01:17:39
Yes, OK. 01:17:41
And if they, if they? 01:17:43
Recommend changes to it will. 01:17:45
Come back, we're only proving less impact. 01:17:49
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that we approve the Agreement 1547. 01:17:53
An agreement with Reed has the Downs Racetrack and Casino and Lincoln County. 01:17:58
Sheriff's Office to reimburse. 01:18:01
Will work overtime for special events. 01:18:04
2nd. 01:18:07
Madam Clerk, please local. 01:18:09
Commissioner. Commissioner Wilson. Commissioner Travellers. 01:18:13
Sure, Fisher. Hi, Motion. 01:18:18
I'd like to ask that we go into a very brief recess. 01:18:20
Till till 10:00. 01:18:25
Thank you. 01:18:31
You know the Commission meeting. 01:18:36
And. 01:18:40
I'm gonna need to go into a public hearing now at 10 AM. 01:18:42
And I'm asking for a motion. 01:18:45
To go into a pub, you're saying? No, Madam Clerk, you don't need that. 01:18:49
OK, we'll declare. 01:18:55
Hearing starts at 10:00, which is right now. 01:18:57
So. 01:19:00
This particular matter. 01:19:03
Is to discuss. 01:19:04
The Ordinance 20. 01:19:06
25.02 amending. 01:19:07
The Lincoln County personnel policies and procedures. 01:19:09
And so I wanted to ask if there was any. 01:19:15
Particular staff comments. 01:19:18
So this particular this particular change. 01:19:29
And the personnel policy, really. 01:19:32
Revolves around one thing. 01:19:35
Besides some. 01:19:37
Glad to have these and some formatting changes. 01:19:39
Which I would like to thank Commissioner Serna and her efforts. 01:19:42
Taking a microscopic look at it. 01:19:46
Cleans it up. 01:19:49
But more importantly. 01:19:50
During our last. 01:19:52
Negotiation Contract negotiations with the deputies. 01:19:54
It became in. 01:19:58
Important and clear to us. 01:20:00
That. 01:20:03
We wanted to recognize. 01:20:03
Longevity. 01:20:06
And the physical. 01:20:08
Abilities that are required of. 01:20:10
Law enforcement officers and maintaining that. 01:20:13
So we put in their contract. 01:20:16
The ability to. 01:20:18
Have an incentive pay. 01:20:20
Predicated on maintaining. 01:20:22
The physical fitness standards which are set by. 01:20:26
Mexico Law Enforcement Academy. 01:20:29
And so that was put in in that contract. 01:20:33
Well, what we didn't have because the deputies do not. 01:20:36
Their contract doesn't cover. 01:20:40
Lieutenants or sergeants? 01:20:42
We wanted to give. 01:20:45
That group of sheriff's deputies, the opportunity to also. 01:20:46
Participate in that incentive and that's all that you see. 01:20:51
In the change. 01:20:55
And the personnel policies and that doesn't? 01:20:57
That doesn't come into effect until 2027. 01:21:00
We wanted to make sure it was in there. So that's that's the change. That's all it is. 01:21:04
It gives them the opportunity to participate. 01:21:08
And that incentive opportunity. 01:21:11
If they meet. 01:21:13
The time in grade. 01:21:15
And it passed the physical fitness test annually. 01:21:16
OK. Any questions? 01:21:20
Any public comment? 01:21:23
On that particular. 01:21:25
Commissioners, any comments? 01:21:31
OK, so now we're going to close the public hearing. 01:21:41
On this matter. 01:21:46
And we're going to entertain a board action. Since we're now in a regular Commission meeting, we can act. 01:21:48
And I'm asking for a motion. 01:21:56
To approve ordinance. 01:21:59
25-02. 01:22:02
Amending Lincoln County personnel policies and procedures. 01:22:04
Providing for the severability of. 01:22:08
You're providing an effective date and end. 01:22:11
Their appeal ordinance. 01:22:14
#2025-01 Do we have a second? 01:22:16
Mr. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that we approve ordinance #2025-02 amending Lincoln counties. 01:22:19
Personnel policies and procedures providing. 01:22:27
For the severability of parts here of providing an effective date and. 01:22:31
The repeal of Ordinance 2025-01. 01:22:36
2nd place, one second. 01:22:41
Madam Clerk. 01:22:46
Commissioner Chavez. Commissioner Wilson. Commissioner Serna. Commissioner Frater. 01:22:48
Aye, Chair Fischer. 01:22:54
Now, since it's not 1030 yet, we're going to go into the consent items. 01:22:58
OK, that is just before in your agenda. 01:23:02
And are there any? 01:23:11
Questions or? 01:23:14
And if you'd like to have pulled out. 01:23:16
For further discussion. 01:23:19
I have a question for the Treasurer. I don't know if we need to pull it out, but. 01:23:27
If we just have enough funding for the lodgers tax request. 01:23:30
Is there enough to matter? 01:23:35
Yes. 01:23:41
I would like to pull out number one. 01:23:47
Good and. 01:23:52
In addition to that. 01:23:56
I was going to say #3 as well. 01:24:00
So those two items I'd like to pull out. 01:24:10
For further discussion, but. 01:24:13
But I think we could entertain a motion to. 01:24:15
Approve items 24567. 01:24:18
8-9 and 10. 01:24:24
There are no questions. 01:24:27
On this item. 01:24:28
Mr. Kerry, make a motion that we approve items 24567. 01:24:35
8-9 and 10. 01:24:41
Has submitted from the consent agenda. 01:24:43
We have a second. 01:24:46
2nd Clerk. 01:24:49
Roll call please. 01:24:52
Commissioner Chavez. Commissioner Wilson, Commissioner Fraser. 01:24:54
Aye, Mr. Sharma, Chair Fisher. 01:24:58
Thank you. 01:25:03
I wanted to pull out item number one because I always like to give our. 01:25:04
Madam treasure the opportunity to. 01:25:09
About. 01:25:14
Good morning. 01:25:25
Sharon Fisher, Commissioner. Sherry Huddleston, Lincoln County Treasurer. 01:25:26
For Monday, April 2025. 01:25:30
Our general fund balance ending within 12,000,970. 01:25:35
$1213.65. 01:25:39
Sitting pretty good right now. 01:25:43
We're doing well. 01:25:45
Our tax collection rate. 01:25:49
As of today, we're standing at 92%. 01:25:52
So out of the $42,053,415.92 bill. 01:25:56
We have collected three. Well, we have left. 01:26:02
Outstanding. 01:26:06
$3,358,927.97. 01:26:07
We did spool our delinquent notices to go out to our taxpayers. 01:26:12
When you school 44,502. 01:26:17
Last year we only had 36, about 3600 so. 01:26:21
That's approximately 902 more delinquent accounts than we had last year. 01:26:24
And I'm kind of thinking that a lot of it has to do with. 01:26:30
The disaster. 01:26:34
And so we're kind of working. 01:26:37
With the taxpayers and calling them and letting them know. 01:26:39
You know, trying to get ahold of them and we do have. 01:26:42
A lot of returns, so people have moved haven't updated their addresses. 01:26:45
And we've had more returns this year than I've seen in the last 21 years that I did. So it it was substantial. And we're working 01:26:49
those diligently trying to get them out, get a hold of taxpayer. 01:26:55
So. 01:27:03
Is anybody hearing this online please? 01:27:04
You know, contact us if you didn't get your tax bill, let us know and we can correct your address and get that going. 01:27:07
So I can answer questions if you guys have any. 01:27:12
Thank you. Any questions? 01:27:15
OK. 01:27:18
I would make a comment I I. 01:27:22
Frankly, I thought we'd be in shape. 01:27:24
With respect to collections. 01:27:28
How does that compare, you know, in terms of percentage, say for? 01:27:32
2324. 01:27:36
For 2223. 01:27:37
I think with the increase in the. 01:27:39
Tax amount bills were arrived at. You know we're right. 01:27:41
Consistent with what we've been. 01:27:45
Collecting SO. 01:27:47
The smaller amounts, a lot of them are mobile homes that you know, got flooded. 01:27:49
They're just taking, you know, they're just, we need to. 01:27:54
Actually, we. 01:27:58
Remove them from our tax rolls as uncollectible. They're gone. 01:27:59
Been destroyed. 01:28:03
So I don't think we'll ever get, you know, those collected. 01:28:04
So we have a lot of, you know, delinquent on mobile homes. 01:28:08
So how do we how do we does the assessor. 01:28:12
Play a role in that piece. 01:28:16
Yes. So I have a mobile home specialist. He has a mobile home person. 01:28:19
We send them out in the field they actually go to. 01:28:24
Every mobile Home Park, they determine if the mobile homes are dinner. 01:28:27
Or if they're gone, they make note of it. They present it to. 01:28:32
The assessor, myself and we. 01:28:37
Determined that you know there. 01:28:39
Uncollectible, you know, they're just gone. 01:28:41
So, umm. 01:28:44
We have a good process, I think, and we work well together. 01:28:45
One might imagine in months to come that. 01:28:49
Those numbers will change. 01:28:51
You'll just pick, you'll take them off the road so that your percentage. 01:28:54
A collection might be lost theoretically. 01:28:57
Because the others don't. 01:29:00
Exist. There's. Yeah, there's. 01:29:01
Gone there are. Are there unlivable? 01:29:04
So they like lower the tax rates. 01:29:08
Nothing. I guess you just remove them. 01:29:11
They are partially done is that the fully done is done. We even remove that from the community so. 01:29:15
And we are looking in the future to. 01:29:23
Present to the board a ordinance. 01:29:26
To where we can start having delinquent. 01:29:29
Mobile home sales. 01:29:31
A lot of other counties do. 01:29:33
And it helps their collections. 01:29:35
And I'll have to get. 01:29:37
Legal counsel and give them the ordinances that we are going to propose. 01:29:40
You end to the board. 01:29:44
You can look at that. 01:29:46
And I think that's going to help us a lot. That'll give us a little bit more. 01:29:47
Advantage to contacting people and you know if we go and red tag their mobile home then maybe they'll approach us and make payment 01:29:51
arrangements. 01:29:55
Trying to get everything taken care of. 01:29:59
I'm anxious to hear more about that. 01:30:02
There was further Commission Commissioner questions. I I don't have anything very much. 01:30:06
I'd like to make a motion to have. 01:30:13
Somebody make a motion to approve. 01:30:16
The financial report. 01:30:18
April stated April 2025. I'd like to make a motion that we approve the Treasures Financial report April 2025. 01:30:19
2nd. 01:30:28
Please. 01:30:32
Commissioner Chavez. 01:30:39
Sure, for sure. Right. Thank you. 01:30:41
The second one on consent item. 01:30:45
Listen, I wanted to talk about there just have maybe. 01:30:47
Miss Guevara. 01:30:51
The Board on is the consideration of the resolution 20. 01:30:54
25. 01:30:57
Dash 57. 01:30:58
I'm going to get an exercise to do. 01:31:04
Finance Director. 01:31:10
On April 8th. 01:31:13
The county receives a letter from DFA. 01:31:14
That they have published their FY20 6. 01:31:18
I'm sorry. 01:31:23
OK, you have resolution 202557. 01:31:32
For budget adjustment and we have the Title 3 funds. 01:31:37
Coming out of. 01:31:41
401. 01:31:43
For 25,000, and this is to pay for the approved budget that the Commission approved this year that we need to come. 01:31:46
It's a remainder of balance that we have to pay them. 01:31:53
And so. 01:31:56
We're not receiving any funds, so it needs to come out of general fund ticket that invoice page. 01:31:57
And then? 01:32:02
The drone expense that we have. 01:32:06
On 5/30 is the grant that Renee brought to us that we received a signed document for many growth. 01:32:08
Food Services. 01:32:16
$12,000 and that shows the revenue coming in the revenue long now on those front lines. 01:32:18
And then, of course, the race track. 01:32:24
MOU that you just approved for 25,000 coming from general fund? 01:32:27
And even though that's transferred out, we're talking about the. 01:32:34
Sheriff, one more time you expect to get. 01:32:38
Revenue coming in for that, but that's just to give us. 01:32:41
That money to pay them before that happens, right? 01:32:44
OK, that's that really was my question. Any other questions on this one? 01:32:47
Could we kindly have a a motion? 01:32:55
For this resolution please. 01:32:58
Mr. Chair, I move to approve Resolution 25-57. 01:33:03
Requested budget adjustments for FY24 25 Budget. 01:33:07
Commissioner Wilson. 01:33:15
Yes, Commissioner Chavez. 01:33:21
Hey, Cortana. Hi, Commissioner Prather. 01:33:23
Aye. 01:33:26
All right. Thank you. 01:33:27
I had a question on. 01:33:34
Item 4. Consent. Item 4. 01:33:38
In the Agenda Explicit 2025 Dash 58. 01:33:41
But in the actual document, this place in five days. 01:33:47
5454. 01:33:50
No, it's the. 01:33:53
The distribution process. 01:33:57
154 something. 01:34:07
I think that's going to be an error on the agenda. It's going to be 54. 01:34:14
For the resolution, that's the one that we're gonna approve. 01:34:18
And have them sign. 01:34:21
So it is 2025-545. 01:34:25
Dutch 54. Yes Sir. 01:34:28
It would seem to me that we need a motion to approve. 01:34:30
2025 Dash 54. 01:34:33
To correct the record. 01:34:35
So may I have a motion to? 01:34:39
Approve Resolution 2025, Dash 54. 01:34:43
Mr. Chairman, I. 01:34:49
Make a motion to approve resolution. 01:34:51
2nd please. 01:34:55
2nd. 01:34:57
Mr. Wilson. 01:34:58
I'm Commissioner Chavez. 01:35:05
Mr. Prater. 01:35:07
Aye, sure, Fisher. 01:35:08
All right. Thank you. 01:35:10
OK. 01:35:14
I think we have time. 01:35:19
Cesar Zamora to. 01:35:23
Talk about your annual report. 01:35:26
On the public hearing. 01:35:29
And precisely you have before. 01:36:01
Sir, good morning. 01:36:02
I'm just going to read this to you guys and you guys have any questions, representatives? 01:36:08
Good morning, Chair Fischer and Commissioners, I am happy to present to you my 2025 assessment report. 01:36:14
Which will you up to date. 01:36:22
On evaluation maintenance slash reappraisal program. 01:36:23
In your package you will find my 2024 sales ratio study. 01:36:27
2025 net new evaluation report. 01:36:31
Actually, compensatory evaluation report. 01:36:34
Lifestyle evaluation report. 01:36:37
And my report on the South Fork fire slash flood. 01:36:39
Exhibit 1 is my sales ratio result for improved residential properties. 01:36:43
This report enables yourself to evaluate the level of current assessed values of residential improvement properties. 01:36:48
Market sales. 01:36:54
This report is required by property tax division and is used to determine property values and account need to be adjust. 01:36:56
Correct values As for 735 NMSA. 01:37:02
Yes, that's 2024 Salem ratio. 01:37:07
Residential sales make sure which is our assessed value compared to market sales was 64.150%. 01:37:10
The years, Years. 01:37:17
Prior years leading regionals were as follows. 01:37:19
In 2023 was 63%. 01:37:22
2020, two 65% and 2021 when we were at 71%. 01:37:25
The low ratio of assessed values to sales prices indicates that our values are well below market levels. 01:37:31
Here's the misinformation. Residential property values were increased by the statutory statutorily allowable 3%. 01:37:36
Exhibit 2 is my celebration racial report for vacant land, non residential. 01:37:46
This report enables us to evaluate the level of current assessed values of vacant non residential properties to market sales. 01:37:51
As before is required by property tax division as youth earn is the property values in the county need to be adjusted to maintain 01:37:59
permit and correct values as per nicely 735 months. 01:38:04
The Assessor 2024 vacant land sales ratio was 63.770%. 01:38:10
Higher unit weight median ratio was 67%. 01:38:17
Hello, ratio of assessed values to stay on the vacant land indicates that our values are well below market levels. 01:38:21
Recession's office did increase values for vacant properties that sold. 01:38:27
As part of our reappraisal plan, we plan to formulate land studies of homogeneous neighborhoods. 01:38:31
And areas which will allow us to create valuation models for vacant properties. 01:38:36
He will pay close attention to market trends in areas that were involved in the fire and floods to determine if further evaluation 01:38:41
investments need to be made. 01:38:44
Exhibit 3 is a breakdown of livestock values by. 01:38:50
For Lincoln County from 2024 through 2025. 01:38:53
HTD provides. 01:38:58
Livestock rings to our office on a manual basis. 01:39:00
These rates are calculated by the Mexico livestock. 01:39:03
For applied valuations are not predictable. 01:39:06
Assessment office valuation methodologies. 01:39:10
All districts saw an increase in value except for the following. 01:39:13
13 out which is Corona outside of Corona. 01:39:17
28 in epitome and 5 minutes. 01:39:21
These losses were due to a decrease in the number of livestock rendered. 01:39:25
Compared to last year's livestock numbers, there's an overall increase. 01:39:29
Of value and value of $3,066,096. 01:39:35
And value. 01:39:40
Or 11 million when you have $13 in tax. 01:39:42
Exit 4 is my 2025 net new valuation report. 01:39:47
The spreadsheet is used to track the new construction value by district and is used primarily in the development of tax rates. 01:39:52
These values are reported to the state and the Assessors Evaluation certification. 01:39:59
The photos are broken down by school district and further by residential and non residential values. 01:40:04
The county wide total net new taxable valuation increase is $23,997,625. 01:40:09
Exit 5 is my 2025 contributory value. 01:40:18
Valuation Report. 01:40:23
The spreadsheet tracks all the value. 01:40:25
Or decreases by school districts. 01:40:27
The values and changes are in the results of building permits. 01:40:30
Sales of properties which are adjusted to market. 01:40:33
The result of protest increases in valuation of residential property from incurring correct values. 01:40:36
And the reinspection during the reappraisal process. 01:40:42
That's all. Those are broken down by school district. 01:40:46
The values are then broken down further within the school district by residential and non residential values. 01:40:48
The county wide total Conservatory value. 01:40:54
Language increase was $5,034,463. 01:40:56
Exhibit 6 is my 2025 five year valuation and maintenance plan. 01:41:03
This is a detailed plan that outlines the steps. 01:41:08
That the Assessor's office will use in completing a sign inspection of all properties located in Lincoln County. 01:41:10
We are currently on year three of our five year reappraisal plan. 01:41:16
Are we appraisal was obviously delayed in 2024 in Southport and. 01:41:21
Fires and floods. 01:41:27
Our original plan was to inspect all properties in the Ruidoso Ruidoso Downs areas after the completion of the commercial recheck 01:41:28
and those same areas. 01:41:32
The devastation that those areas have occurred, we have postponed the reappraisal of this area until the calendar year 2027. 01:41:37
Is it 7 is the latest breakdown of value? 01:41:45
Value slash gain in relation to the South Park fire. 01:41:49
Influence This data is of great importance moving forward with interesting value and tax revenue losses in School District 28 out. 01:41:52
On the residential and non residential sites. 01:42:00
Many argue on the residential side on these. 01:42:03
Read him on the non residential site only and 35 on the non residential side only. 01:42:06
We will continue to deal with the fallout from the firing floods. 01:42:13
As market trends are created for those areas, it's very possible that we may need to adjust flood and fire affected properties 01:42:16
values even lower. 01:42:20
We also anticipate further valuation based erosion. 01:42:24
The percentage of disabled veterans exemption would take effect in 2026. 01:42:27
The amount of loss is unknown as there are too many variables to consider with that type of exemption. 01:42:34
Has a 5/6/2025 our overall net taxable valuation. 01:42:40
At 1,000,718 million. 01:42:44
166,202 dollars. 01:42:47
An overall increase of 4 million. 01:42:51
542,611 dollars. 01:42:53
In conclusion, I would like to take some time to thank my staff for all of their hard work. 01:42:58
The monumental task of tracking through, inspecting, taking photographs of and revaluing thousands of properties is unprecedented 01:43:03
precedent in our office history. 01:43:07
We offer our Hebrews. 01:43:13
And all of this to those who work. Everybody devastated. 01:43:15
Fire influence. 01:43:17
I'm open to interest. 01:43:25
Misters any questions? 01:43:28
I've got a couple. 01:43:31
So I was amazed at the. 01:43:33
The increase in livestock. 01:43:37
Is that numbers? 01:43:41
Types. I mean, is it? 01:43:43
Cattle prices have gone up. 01:43:44
Is that it? 01:43:47
Yes, so. 01:43:48
Apparently, like I said, it means that numbers were calculated by the livestock board. I don't know how it calculated. No, no I 01:43:50
know but what I guess my question maybe can't answer this. 01:43:55
Have the number of cattle. 01:44:00
Got up in the county. 01:44:04
Words of horses. 01:44:05
Do you have any idea? 01:44:07
Because I noticed the Hondo Valley was particularly. 01:44:11
Had a particularly large increase. 01:44:14
I'm not sure if that's. 01:44:18
Yeah, I don't have those numbers in front of me. 01:44:27
I can get that for you though. 01:44:30
Again, sometimes it's just adventurous, I think. 01:44:32
You want to know where the economy is moving. 01:44:34
It's interesting too, that Corona. 01:44:37
Has fewer livestock. 01:44:40
I wonder wonder why do you have? 01:44:42
Mr. Wilson and I do on that, Mr. Chairman, I don't have. 01:44:45
Specific. 01:44:48
What the sisters doing? I would imagine that the increases. 01:44:49
Come from the value of the last time, not necessarily the number the livestock inside in the corona out. 01:44:52
Those two areas are reduction in office. 01:45:03
And any other interesting thing is quite quite a large increase in just. 01:45:10
Raw real estate values. 01:45:14
Right. And so you, you commented, you commented on. 01:45:16
How you thinking that some of the. 01:45:21
Devastation that we experienced last year is going to. 01:45:24
Those values, but you haven't seen an indication of that, have you? 01:45:27
Lots of our initial, our initial. 01:45:32
Data studies haven't shown much of A decrease, but the problem that we're having is. 01:45:35
There's not a lot of sales in those areas either and that's what our values are based on our market sales within those fire and 01:45:41
flood effective areas. 01:45:44
To be honest, there's not a lot of people in there. 01:45:48
That's one of the issues we're having. There's only three methodologies to to assessing properties as the income, the cost and 01:45:51
the. 01:45:54
Sales comparison approach and. 01:45:58
The only one that will apply would be the sales comparison approach. 01:46:01
So we're just hoping that somebody starts selling some topics start moving and. 01:46:04
But but. 01:46:08
Permits permitting seems to be up though, right? There's a lot of building going on, a lot of building going. 01:46:09
Got a new home? They're not going to be cheaper. 01:46:14
We're going to have to look at market trends. That's learning, I mean. 01:46:17
Uncensored they're they're going to be highlighted so. 01:46:21
I think we. 01:46:24
We have a short term sort of bliss. 01:46:25
But I don't see any county. 01:46:28
Is going to suffer in the near term. 01:46:32
Not short term, but. 01:46:35
Near term. 01:46:36
2-3 years out. 01:46:38
Property tax revenue. 01:46:40
I don't see it either. 01:46:43
You don't see that? That's all I had. 01:46:46
Nothing else. OK. Thank you, guys. Thank you very much. Very thorough and we appreciate. 01:46:49
Get hard work. 01:46:58
I really wanted to commend your staff. 01:47:00
For their professionalism and. 01:47:03
Stewardship of protecting the. 01:47:06
Projects of not only our county government operations, but. 01:47:10
In local law enforcement and public education. 01:47:14
Murals efforts are. 01:47:18
Thank you, thank you. I really, I can't say enough about those guys. It's. 01:47:21
Anybody busted the panels and not only to get the fire and float at their properties taken care of, but also to stay up saving 01:47:25
with the sales, with the permits and anything else which brings in the water that means obviously so. 01:47:30
Yeah, huge thank you for. 01:47:36
What? 01:47:39
Very good. 01:47:41
And I'm going to slow walk this adjournment of the regular. 01:47:52
Commission meeting. 01:47:56
30 minutes after. 01:47:58
So we are adjourned now for about 20 seconds. 01:48:05
You. 01:48:19
We need something with a second hand then. 01:48:29
And so this work. 01:48:38
This work has been going on for weeks and weeks and weeks mostly behind. 01:48:39
Closed doors. 01:48:44
Hard work by the staff. 01:48:45
The Commission has been engaged in multiple meetings, both collectively in terms of workshops. 01:48:48
But also individually, as we try to. 01:48:54
Comprehend and understand this process and do our oversight so we're now. 01:48:57
Moving into the public hearing space. Times, 1030. 01:49:02
This is to consider the adopting of the preliminary budget. 01:49:07
Required to do. 01:49:11
In 2025 to 2026 and. 01:49:14
And I'd like to invite. 01:49:17
Treasure wonderful finance. 01:49:19
Director to comment on this budget. 01:49:22
Commissioner Fisher. 01:49:31
Chairman Fisher. Commissioner Sheri Huddleston, Lincoln County Treasurer. 01:49:33
You've gone through everything in the budget. We double checked the transfers, the expenses, the salaries. 01:49:37
And. 01:49:44
You feel pretty good about this. 01:49:45
We did have an adjustment. Billy can talk to you about that. 01:49:47
The adjustment was for the New Mexico Association of Counties. Their costs went up from. 01:49:51
32,000 to 35,000, so we made that adjustment. 01:49:56
Thank you. And that's the difference you'll see in the budget. 01:50:00
But this is pretty much as you had. We had presented it to you in. 01:50:03
Right. I'd like to know that. 01:50:10
The insurance is going up 10%. 01:50:14
10%. 01:50:18
I attended that meeting for the. 01:50:21
And they did, they did load it up 10%, so. 01:50:25
For our argues. 01:50:28
Yeah, that was the only change that was made. 01:50:32
To the budget. 01:50:34
From the special meeting. 01:50:35
So we're going into I guess what the FA is with the -.53%. 01:50:38
So. So there was a. 01:50:44
There there was an article in the paper. 01:50:47
And it indicated that we had a budget of. 01:50:51
About $104 million. 01:50:54
I, I don't look at it that way. I'd like you to kind of talk to that. 01:50:59
If you can. 01:51:04
In other words. 01:51:05
Our budget. 01:51:06
Most of of what we do at the county level is kind of a pass through. 01:51:08
We collect. 01:51:13
And it goes out the door. 01:51:16
And and you know. 01:51:18
That the treasurer's office. 01:51:20
And budget. 01:51:22
Office and all the staff and so forth are engaged in this process one way or another. 01:51:24
It sounds like an awful lot of money, and it is. 01:51:31
But it really isn't. 01:51:34
Something we had control of. 01:51:35
And what we do have control over, I think we do a pretty good job. 01:51:40
Thanks to your great efforts. 01:51:44
Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Sherry Hummelston, Lincoln High Treasure. 01:51:49
So if you look at the 681, the disaster fund, we have over $27 million in that. 01:51:53
In expenses to be expended out. 01:51:59
And a lot of that's the carryover for the NRCS, the 13 million. 01:52:01
And. 01:52:05
That we have for the category C's and that's going to increase as we keep going. 01:52:06
And then also property held for others. So that's the for the distribution that we collect for the. 01:52:11
Municipalities, the schools, special districts. That's over 27 million. 01:52:17
So you know, that reduces our expenses by almost 50 something million. So our, you know, our regular budget is about 50. 01:52:22
53,000,000 something like that. 01:52:30
So those. 01:52:32
Pass throughs as you say. 01:52:34
Is we're the physical agents. So that does look like our budgets a lot bigger than. 01:52:36
What we actually have. 01:52:42
But we do monitor those we. 01:52:44
Are responsible for the expenses in those out so. 01:52:47
That is included in our budget, so. 01:52:52
Able to see them. That's right, you see it. 01:52:55
And, and, and I just think from, from the taxpayers. 01:52:58
Standpoint, It's important if the taxpayers understand. 01:53:01
That. 01:53:05
There are other forces. 01:53:06
In the state. 01:53:08
That that actually distribute and decide where that money goes to. You know, as an example, the school budgets. 01:53:09
That basically go up to. 01:53:15
Santa Fe PED. And they they. 01:53:18
Decide DFA decides where it goes. 01:53:20
And how much? And so on. 01:53:23
And but we're responsible for monitoring that process, but other than that we don't have any. 01:53:25
Anything whatsoever. 01:53:30
I think that's unfortunate, actually. 01:53:33
That is my. Is there any other questions or comments? 01:53:36
Wow. 01:53:42
Then I guess. 01:53:48
If there are no public comments on that. 01:53:50
I'd entertain that. 01:53:53
For sure there's a chance. Talk about budget, the budget process. 01:53:55
Hey, don't complain to me later. 01:54:06
So with that in mind. 01:54:08
We reserve the right to do that. 01:54:15
So. So with that in mind. 01:54:19
Let's go ahead and close the public hearing. 01:54:21
And we're going to reconvene. 01:54:25
Connection. 01:54:28
And I'm looking for a. 01:54:30
Direct a motion to approve the resolution 2025, Dash 58. 01:54:34
Adopting the preliminary budget. 01:54:40
For 25 and 26. 01:54:42
I make a motion to approve Resolution 2025-58 adopting the. 01:54:46
Preliminary. 01:54:54
20252026 Budget. 01:54:55
2nd. 01:55:01
Madam Clerk, roll call, please. 01:55:04
Commissioner FRA. 01:55:06
Aye, Commissioner Wilson. 01:55:08
Mr. Yes. 01:55:10
Fisher Motion. 01:55:12
Well done. Thank you very much. 01:55:17
OK, next on the. 01:55:23
Agenda or update reports and announcements? 01:55:25
What I like to do is. 01:55:29
Let's go through. 01:55:35
Various folks that we have here so. 01:55:38
So how about? 01:55:40
Melody, Melanie. 01:55:42
You have something for today. 01:55:44
Sorry, we don't have you. 01:55:49
Listening on the agenda. 01:55:51
Melanie, Guitarist, Lincoln County Extension Service. 01:56:00
We are getting really, really busy in our office. 01:56:03
Budget hearing day that we had. 01:56:07
Melody was over at Carrizozo for AG Day. 01:56:09
She presented to roughly 185 students and teachers. 01:56:13
About the differences between dairy cattle and beef cattle. 01:56:18
She made freeze dried ice cream and our freeze dryer. 01:56:21
Answer Freeze dried ice cream and talked about preservation methods. 01:56:25
And did that. 01:56:30
We were our office was involved in the chili cook off. 01:56:31
Held it wide oak for Cinco de Mayo. 01:56:36
And so we kind of facilitated that and helped judge as well. 01:56:39
We do have a new. 01:56:44
In our office, you can only. 01:56:45
Work in our office if you're going to start with them, apparently. 01:56:47
Mercedes. 01:56:50
Is an intern for the summer. 01:56:51
And so we're happy to have her. She will be working all the way through the very end of the fair. 01:56:54
She started yesterday. 01:56:59
And we got her started on defensive driving so she can drive a university vehicle. 01:57:01
And I laid out her summer for her and her summers over already so. 01:57:06
So we're excited to have first and we. 01:57:12
We've been, I've worked, been working a little bit on getting some animals packed here and there, but. 01:57:17
Mercedes and I will spend 3 days this next week. 01:57:22
Getting all the animals tagged and validated for all the affairs. 01:57:25
Not just our County Fair, but State Fair, Eastern Fair as well. 01:57:29
I attended a. 01:57:34
Cattle clipping plant. 01:57:35
Clipping and fading clinic over Mother's Day weekend. 01:57:37
Yeah, that was a good Mother's Day. 01:57:40
And so did that. 01:57:44
We have about 25 kids that will be judging and attending district contest. 01:57:47
Towards the end of June. 01:57:52
They're going to compete in anything from rifle, shotgun, archery, horse. 01:57:54
Livestock, Wildlife, Meats. 01:57:59
Livestock, skillophone and entomology. 01:58:01
I started on some of those practices already, kind of. 01:58:05
Going to the different areas of the county so we can kind of hit all the kids. And so I started on livestock and livestock skills, 01:58:08
fun practice. 01:58:11
Meats and wildlife will start soon. 01:58:15
Our shooting sports leaders have been working with our shooting sports kids for the last. 01:58:18
Over a month. 01:58:23
And so. 01:58:24
Doing that. 01:58:25
US, along with the NMSU Wildlife Department and the Corona Research Center. 01:58:30
The end of the month we are hoping. 01:58:34
We're looking at registration numbers fall ago, so we're pushing it out. 01:58:37
A little bit more, but we're hosting a wildlife. 01:58:40
Workshop camp a day long one for. 01:58:44
Older high school level kids, a lot of hands on wildlife type stuff. 01:58:48
It will help. 01:58:53
Kids with wildlife judging if they're interested in and getting into any kind of. 01:58:54
Career. 01:58:59
That stands around wildlife, so we're hoping that. 01:59:00
Works well. 01:59:03
We're also one of the things. 01:59:05
The beginning of the month we have our regional Southern regional Livestock School that we are hosting. 01:59:07
And so. 01:59:12
There's been a lot of the last minute details coming out there and so. 01:59:14
That week we will be setting up. 01:59:18
Doing math. 01:59:21
Melody will be serving a couple of meals there as well. 01:59:22
We have about 90 kids from across the state that will be attending that. 01:59:25
In Captan at the fairgrounds, at the fairgrounds. So we have that on our. 01:59:30
It is on the board. Yeah, we got it on the board. 01:59:34
It was really nice. I sent a. 01:59:38
I I sent an e-mail about 4:30 the end of one day and it was up. When I came through at the Internet, it was up. 01:59:40
Yeah. 01:59:49
And then I may see you guys before then it depends how the rest of. 01:59:50
June goes, but if not? 01:59:54
Then we go into district contests that will be in Clovis during association counties while. 01:59:57
You guys are all there. 02:00:03
Clovis too, so if you're bored. 02:00:04
I think most of the things are going to be out at the fairgrounds, but if you also haven't gotten rooms, I suggest you do because. 02:00:06
There are defiance in Clovis during that week now. 02:00:12
Because of those two big events so. 02:00:16
Umm, that's kind of about it for the next. 02:00:19
Couple weeks so. 02:00:23
I stand the quest. 02:00:25
Thank you, guys. Thank you. 02:00:31
Upper Honda. 02:00:40
As most of you know, my name is Robert Barber. 02:00:55
I'm on the Board of Supervisors. 02:00:57
For Upper Honda soil and water conservation district. 02:01:00
Apologize our. 02:01:04
Staff wasn't here today because. 02:01:05
They read your agenda. 02:01:08
So basically. 02:01:11
We're continuing as planned. There's nothing significant happening. We're working on our weed program. 02:01:14
And making progress with issues budget. 02:01:20
And I stand for questions. 02:01:24
Our second question. 02:01:28
I appreciate you what what you guys do. 02:01:32
I understand we're also going to be reporting. 02:01:35
South Central N Mountain RC and D I'm sorry. 02:01:38
You'd have moved for Laura dot. 02:01:41
Yes, yes. 02:01:43
And Laura called me. She regrets not being here. 02:01:45
Today she had to make a trip to Albuquerque. 02:01:48
But she left me some notes. 02:01:51
To cover with you. 02:01:53
As you well know, we've been working. 02:01:54
A lot of EWP projects. 02:01:57
For the McBride. For the salt. 02:02:00
The South fork of fires. 02:02:03
Currently, 718 people have submitted requests for assistance. 02:02:06
We've submitted 13 requests for reimbursements. 02:02:12
And we're working on a 14th 1. 02:02:16
That will probably be submitted this week. 02:02:18
To date we have extended. 02:02:23
$37,241,892. 02:02:27
With the remaining budget of. 02:02:33
12 million. 02:02:36
$758,107.00. 02:02:37
At this time. 02:02:43
We need to submit a. 02:02:44
Change of signature form. 02:02:48
To the NRCS. 02:02:50
And a letter from the Commission requesting that the signature authority be changed to the new county manager. 02:02:53
And, and I'm sure Laurel. 02:03:01
We'll be working with you guys and working with you this week. Get that? 02:03:02
Happen, uh. 02:03:06
We've continued to receive a great deal of interest in the buyout program. 02:03:09
And we're hopeful. 02:03:17
That the CDBG. 02:03:19
Disaster relief program. 02:03:21
Will help us with the required 25% match. 02:03:23
Also. 02:03:29
We've announced May 31st. 02:03:31
Was the program. 02:03:34
Deadline. 02:03:37
We've identified this deadline on all social media outlets outlets. 02:03:38
The RC and D website. 02:03:43
The Village of Ruidoso website. 02:03:45
Village News. 02:03:47
And NRCS has already. 02:03:49
Prepared and distributed and press release. 02:03:53
Announcing the deadline. 02:03:55
We just received notification. 02:04:00
I think last week or this week. 02:04:03
That we were awarded funding for an outreach and education program. 02:04:05
In 2025 and 2026. 02:04:09
And Laurel will be getting with Aaron. 02:04:12
And the offices of emergency services for this effort. 02:04:16
We also received $100,000 grant. 02:04:21
To assist. 02:04:24
With the creation of a project. 02:04:26
Ready engineering plans. 02:04:28
To revamp the outdoor Education Center in the Smokey Bear Historic Park. 02:04:30
We're also working. 02:04:37
With the park. 02:04:39
On a US tourism grant. 02:04:41
For this upcoming fiscal year. 02:04:45
As you know. 02:04:48
Next year will be the 50th anniversary of the park and they're hoping to use that. 02:04:49
To do a lot of marketing. 02:04:54
In the last two weeks we've. 02:04:58
Seen an increase in inquiries on the use of the ACI, the Air Curtain incinerator. 02:05:01
In fact, I'm going to deliver. 02:05:06
Probably this week. 02:05:09
Thursday or Friday? 02:05:11
To a place on the May Estates on Ruth Rd. 02:05:12
So that they can burn. 02:05:16
And then I've had some interest that we talked about today. 02:05:18
And. 02:05:22
We're ready and can support that effort. 02:05:23
Also, as you're probably well aware of, we've been doing some thinning around Lincoln. 02:05:26
And we should be completing that project around mid June. 02:05:34
Very good. 02:05:40
And I stand for questions. 02:05:41
Could you? 02:05:45
That people know about your. 02:05:48
Air curtain incinerator than it is available to. 02:05:50
Everybody in Lincoln County. 02:05:54
Yeah. 02:05:55
We've advertised it through our website in that very settlement whereas the mountain. 02:05:59
You're correct. 02:06:04
Available to everybody in the county. 02:06:06
And O'terill County as well. 02:06:08
They have to make an appointment. 02:06:12
And make it work with Laura Doff on that. And there's a small rental fee that covers the cost of the fuel. 02:06:14
Plus. 02:06:20
Moving it. 02:06:21
The transportation of that crime. 02:06:22
Very good. And we should put that in part as part of your program. 02:06:27
Other asset. 02:06:31
We have been advertising that in our programs. Very good. 02:06:32
Thank you. 02:06:35
OK. 02:06:36
Well, that's it. That's Barbara. Thank you so much. 02:06:37
We've got somebody from. 02:06:43
The wonderful fantastic. 02:06:44
Blanket force. 02:06:48
Chairman and commissioners, and he's Amanda Guinness, and I'm the deputy for supervisor for the Lindsey National Forest. 02:07:03
So couple updates. 02:07:09
We got about 25,000,000 in disaster recovery funds there actually came down. 02:07:11
And received. So we are in the planning phase of sending those funds down in five years. 02:07:17
With prior to prior we had 10, so it's quite. 02:07:25
Quite a quick time frame to spend that money, so we're looking. 02:07:29
At partnering with local. 02:07:32
Contractors even at the county to get some funds shifted over year old way too. So maybe some through agreements. 02:07:35
So Mark Pentecost is running that. 02:07:42
Team and got a team slowly dedicated. 02:07:46
So comprised of like archaeologists, wildlife biologists. 02:07:51
Engineers. 02:07:55
Dedicated. That's their priority to get this money sent down. 02:07:57
We've got projects ranging and I think it's an e-mail, but we've got projects ranging from. 02:08:01
Recreation facilities since a lot of our. 02:08:08
Cedar concurrence burned down. 02:08:12
So I'm trying to figure out what we're going to do in camp spots. 02:08:16
Going to be relocating them. 02:08:19
Or place them in time. Maybe it looks a little bit different we've got. 02:08:21
Fence replacement. Salvage logging. 02:08:24
Engineering, so culverts and road repair. 02:08:30
And then some. 02:08:35
Unauthorized livestock as well. So we're looking at a range of projects there and our folks are coming up with line items 02:08:39
proposals for each each of the budget listed items. 02:08:44
And reaching out to folks in the communities. We're trying to do a lot of local reaching out to local folks to help us out with 02:08:49
some of these. 02:08:52
And getting some. 02:08:56
Done so this year for 2025. 02:08:58
Client is assessments getting folks in to come and do professional assessments of. 02:09:00
What the lenses deem what we need to do moving forward. And so that's what 2025 will be mostly planning. 02:09:05
A little bit of NEPA. 02:09:12
And then hopefully more implementation in 26. 02:09:15
Is there any any money that's going to be set aside for? 02:09:20
Establishing. 02:09:23
These barriers, these fire. 02:09:24
Area that's not. 02:09:26
In the disaster funds unfortunately where there's some rules and regulations that are associated with this, so. 02:09:29
We can look at treating some of the outside areas, which I think we are. 02:09:35
Prayers with the rules that come with it if you're not sitting in like within the. 02:09:41
The footprint, you can kind of send it outside. 02:09:45
And treating other areas that we don't lose, you know, and I think that's what you're, you're, you're referring to. 02:09:49
The treating other habitat areas within the. 02:09:57
Proximity to the to the virus guard. 02:10:02
So we can look at it. 02:10:04
We are looking at other projects though, aside from disaster funds. 02:10:06
Over the next five years, developing a plan for the for the district for. 02:10:11
Smokey Berry in your district? 02:10:15
And the Sacramento Ranger District on what those. 02:10:17
Fire lines. 02:10:21
Look like. 02:10:23
In the future. 02:10:23
I know that they've got a plan for at least our boundary areas and I think we touched a little bit on the. 02:10:25
Emergency. 02:10:32
Oh oh gosh. 02:10:34
I know you were. 02:10:39
At our. 02:10:40
Oh jeez. 02:10:43
It was, it was just a staff. 02:10:45
Emergency procedure meeting and so. 02:10:49
And so we are that is something that we're looking at in the future, but right now disaster recovery is our number one priority. 02:10:54
For the forest and the district. 02:11:01
Because that money has to be spent and we don't want to give money back either, so. 02:11:04
So we'll be looking at Regina County for especially in roads particularly. 02:11:08
So. So how we can get maybe some funds shifted over and what work we can do together? 02:11:17
So we went into stage 2 fire restrictions on May 2nd. 02:11:25
For the forest. 02:11:30
To no more campfires. 02:11:31
Including those in recreation areas. 02:11:35
The only things that we're really allowing are those if you can turn on and off your mission stove. 02:11:38
And we have Memorial Day weekend approaching us quickly. So that's going to be major for our folks. We have. 02:11:45
A lot of severity folks coming on. 02:11:52
On board from the Wenatchee, from Washington. 02:11:54
Helping us patrol the areas. 02:11:59
Making sure we don't have. 02:12:02
Banning campfires. I know we've had one recently. 02:12:04
You've got extra law enforcement staffed up so. 02:12:08
And we've got extra fire, non firefighters, but. 02:12:11
Qualified fire qualified militia to come on our end to help with airing patrols throughout the weekend. 02:12:14
Making sure we're interfacing with the public and. 02:12:21
Show your friends out there so. 02:12:24
Let's see. 02:12:29
We've been assisting with the there was a fire on Mescalero, the VA incident. 02:12:32
2.8 acres. 02:12:38
He had Air Force service resources. 02:12:39
Stacked up there helping with that incident as well. 02:12:42
I remember a big update, we were participated in Smokey Berry days, which is really great. That was such a great event put on. 02:12:46
And enjoyed it the communities. 02:12:56
And seemed to enjoy. 02:12:58
Commitment that we had there so. 02:13:01
Questions. Thank you. 02:13:05
Thank you, Miss McGinnis. Appreciate it. 02:13:07
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Over here. 02:13:13
Thank you. 02:13:21
Good morning, Chairman Fisher County Commissioner Todd Overview Hospital Chief Executive, Lincoln County Medical Center. Not a lot 02:13:28
to report today. 02:13:32
I got filled for me last month. I think so. But just so you're aware, we did send notice to the chairman, Fisher and the county 02:13:35
manager of our intention to renew police. 02:13:41
That was received by the county and confirmed to me today that the county did receive our letter of intent on that. So over the. 02:13:48
Make sure we'll be discussions on what that looks like. 02:13:55
Who continue that? 02:13:59
A couple things of some great news about Carrizozo clinic. They were surveyed 2 days ago, but OR. 02:14:01
Friday. 02:14:08
I think it's Friday. 02:14:09
By the state. 02:14:10
And received no findings at all on the Arizona clinic. So very excited about that. 02:14:12
Along with Carrizozo though, we are going to do a modification of scheduled with Carrizozo and Corona. 02:14:18
Terrazzo will be a look will. 02:14:25
Both will still maintain the. 02:14:29
The days that they have that we're switching the day so. 02:14:31
Currently we go to Corona on Wednesday. 02:14:34
We're going to be moving that to Friday for that. So what that means is Arizona will run Monday through Thursday. 02:14:37
So right now. 02:14:45
As those Monday, Tuesday. 02:14:47
Thursday, Friday for medical. 02:14:49
What that does is that affords Joe Byrd, who's our new nurse practitioner, it's going to allow us to employ her full time because 02:14:51
she does Corona. 02:14:55
That allow us to have her also work in the emergency room that allows to have a work with Doctor Sunderman and cardiology so. 02:14:59
Instead of being one day, which is a pretty hard job to fill, we've been able to make currents of a full time practitioner with 02:15:06
us. So so allows us to accommodate her schedule to make that happen. So we've already notified Coronav. 02:15:12
And so I think we're. 02:15:19
Everything's good for the last day. We have heard any concerns about that change and date so that it will start in the month of 02:15:21
June. 02:15:24
Those are tipped. 02:15:27
Got any questions on that? 02:15:29
OK. The CT, I know everybody heard the song of our CT. We still are waiting on delivery at the break box. Everything is completely 02:15:31
completed with the ZT. 02:15:36
Except for the breaker box that's still such a Mexico for some reason. So we just can't seem to get it out of Mexico right now, 02:15:41
but we're working on. 02:15:45
So. So we'll see. 02:15:50
And then the. 02:15:51
The last thing, just as a heads up. 02:15:54
I mentioned that we had some issues with access at the caption clinic. 02:15:57
Jeff Honeycutt met with our team and we've been able to improve, put some plans together around that. So just let you know that 02:16:02
that's moving forward. So from that standpoint and back test is. 02:16:07
Of fencing that went along the fairgrounds. 02:16:12
Actually precludes us from being able to get to the water cut off for the clinic. When that was put in, the fence was put on 02:16:15
anyway so. 02:16:19
Just worked with my team to kind of come to the solution on that. And then we're also looking at access around the indices because 02:16:24
it's more difficult to gain, but I think so. 02:16:28
That's all I have for any questions. 02:16:35
Questions, Commissioners. 02:16:38
Thank you. Thank you all. 02:16:43
Wooden. 02:16:52
Good morning. My name is Ross Lincoln County Detention Center. 02:16:58
For my update today. 02:17:03
Last week. 02:17:06
We have the opportunity to show appreciation to our staff. 02:17:08
For law enforcement professionals, we we call it professional professional weeks. That's that's just the week that all law 02:17:12
enforcement is. 02:17:16
Recognized and honor we did some. 02:17:21
Some things like that for our staff so. 02:17:24
That was a good thing. 02:17:29
We're continually improving our facility just. 02:17:31
It seems like that's one of the things that we're always doing. We're always painting, we're always. 02:17:35
Cleaning, doing that sort of thing, trying to. 02:17:40
Make sure that that environment. 02:17:43
Positive for staff and detainees. 02:17:45
Yeah, or count for the last month has been an average of 57 detainees. 02:17:50
We processed 97 individuals. 02:17:55
Through uh. 02:17:58
Through the facility. 02:18:00
We just got finished updating our camera system. 02:18:04
We have additional cameras as well as better coverage those cameras are. 02:18:07
Higher quality. 02:18:12
And it's just a better system or old system. 02:18:14
We if we wanted to look at. 02:18:18
Our cameras of what was going on. 02:18:20
Only one person at a time could access that. 02:18:22
Now, uh. 02:18:25
We have access to all of our. 02:18:26
Any staff member can access those cameras so I can have them in my office. 02:18:29
By Deputy Warden, my chief of security. 02:18:33
We don't have to take turns dealing canvas so that system. 02:18:36
Very, very much needed. 02:18:41
Improvement. 02:18:44
We just upgraded our body cameras. 02:18:46
That's one thing in law enforcement. 02:18:49
That just says you're baking a lot is. 02:18:52
Recording those incidents when they happened. 02:18:54
So these cameras that are higher quality. 02:18:57
They fit better on the Staffs. 02:19:00
Uniform and they also when you push the record button. 02:19:03
It's it's on a loop and so it can record the previous two minutes prior to the catching radio traffic. 02:19:08
And anything that's going on tomorrow is actually. 02:19:15
Pushing that button, so that's a really good upgrade. 02:19:18
Our map program that we. 02:19:23
And working on with. 02:19:25
Hookloads and Presbyterian. 02:19:27
That's up and running. 02:19:30
We've been doing our referrals. 02:19:31
You actually had several. 02:19:34
Detainees that have reported. 02:19:37
Two of those. 02:19:40
For their after appointments. 02:19:42
For that program. So that's up to the running. 02:19:44
Something that we're really excited about. 02:19:47
And we're just in the process of preparing coordinates. 02:19:51
Days of the plumbing. 02:19:54
A project we have. 02:19:56
Our county manager come over and look at some of the things we have meeting on. 02:20:00
Friday and we're looking at. 02:20:06
Hopefully some breaking ground on the final. 02:20:07
Phase of that project. 02:20:11
And I stand up for any questions. 02:20:13
Well, thank you very much. 02:20:21
Thank you. 02:20:22
Appreciate it. 02:20:24
Finally, Landrag. 02:20:31
Chairman, Commissioners, Kathy Eyes and with Land Rock. 02:20:41
I don't have much because I didn't see us on the agenda. 02:20:45
But have a good memory. 02:20:48
So basically, you know, we. 02:20:50
Did some more discussion on Senate Bill 5 and. 02:20:53
I'm looking forward on that on Dell Hall actually just. 02:20:56
That is the full rest. 02:20:59
The full. 02:21:02
Still there. So we're going to work on the letter for that. 02:21:04
So we talked about that. Thank you for joining our meeting. 02:21:08
And we've completed our resolution and haven't completed in time to submit it to you and would have been selected on the agenda. 02:21:12
So. 02:21:17
I'll have that to you immediately. 02:21:21
And you talked about the river stewardship. 02:21:23
Grant that Mark Fisher had. 02:21:27
Talk to me about reaching out to San Fran with. 02:21:30
New Mexico State University, the water Resource and. 02:21:33
Resource and Research Institute. 02:21:37
And I believe that was submitted yesterday. It was due today. 02:21:41
Can you, can you? I think it's of interest to the Commission. 02:21:45
Maybe the public, can you talk a little bit about that? So the rubber stewardship grant is? 02:21:49
For the New Mexico Environmental Department Surface Water Quality Bureau. 02:21:56
Has these grants available annually for. 02:22:01
River specifically river restoration. 02:22:04
And this year really wanted to target. It wasn't actually in the RFP, but. 02:22:08
They were really directing it towards areas that have been impacted by fires. 02:22:12
So. 02:22:17
They're unbelievably we've had like less than a month if it's still on the 20th. 02:22:18
I finally got a photo Sam and. 02:22:23
They said, hey, we've got this grant. 02:22:26
So. 02:22:28
Myself and Cynthia Black, I've never met Cynthia that she's just a bombshell. She's just amazing. 02:22:30
I've worked pretty hard but she just like ran right over top to me. 02:22:37
And with the cooperation of. 02:22:41
Sam's crew. 02:22:44
We went out and identified projects. 02:22:46
They're, you know, looked at all the the river, the stream, closed areas that were affected by the fires. 02:22:49
Pretty much focused on Upper Canada. We're really trying to look at areas that. 02:22:56
Would help the river, but also. 02:23:01
Hopefully. 02:23:03
For some of those flight flows. 02:23:04
We get rain this summer. 02:23:07
So we identified and and Cynthia like math. 02:23:09
Out these different areas along the river and upper Canyon. 02:23:12
Took pictures and everything and I feel like we really put together. 02:23:17
Helpful presentation also got with. 02:23:21
Jackie Powell. 02:23:24
Down in the valley and really looked at they had really. 02:23:25
Need structures there. 02:23:29
On the river that. 02:23:31
You know, could potentially help slower flows and keep the. 02:23:32
Thanks for eroding and everything so. 02:23:36
Kind of included that in the discussion, but ended up with. 02:23:38
A full of wetland area. 02:23:42
Just downstream of the wastewater plant. 02:23:44
We're going to try and develop so. 02:23:47
Really put together a great proposal. It's somewhere. 02:23:50
The. 02:23:53
That we're looking at or somewhere between 3 and 500,000. Hopefully we identified. 02:23:55
On some really good projects and got some good numbers in there. Cynthia again. 02:24:01
Network of people that. 02:24:05
You know, Professor River restoration. 02:24:07
If you have a second contributor a lot you've done a lot of. 02:24:11
Your work up there in the upper Canyon. 02:24:14
Really stood out. 02:24:16
Another concern we all. 02:24:18
To Crowther and Hort Fisher, myself and Cynthia and. 02:24:20
The gentleman from Can You hear Me Please? 02:24:25
We went up there and we looked at the work that's been done thus far. 02:24:31
Cynthia was really concerned that when they were clearing the. 02:24:35
Silt and debris out of that river channel that they had really gone deep. 02:24:39
They weren't they weren't allowed to affect the width of the river. So I think they. 02:24:43
They went deeper and cleaned that out anyway. That was part of what she was looking at in the restoration. 02:24:48
And also looking at. 02:24:54
There's a wetland. 02:24:56
You know, we thought to start as high up. 02:24:57
And the cannon as we could. 02:25:00
Because obviously you want to. You want to slow the flows and restore things. 02:25:02
As far up because the floods going to. 02:25:07
Come all the way down South. 02:25:09
Another wetland up there that's already existing. 02:25:11
Hopefully can be. 02:25:15
You know, enhanced and enriched. 02:25:17
So they cut to that. Yeah, I think it's great. So. 02:25:20
You know it's a multi. 02:25:24
Multi page process so we had all the damage. 02:25:26
We had all the debris that came in. 02:25:29
Floodplains. 02:25:31
In the floodway. 02:25:33
In the River way. 02:25:34
And obviously that stuff just. 02:25:36
Caused all kinds of damage from top to bottom, right all the way down through the through the valley. 02:25:38
Tremendous amount of work we talked about in our budget. 02:25:45
Earlier, particularly in the first presentation, we had. 02:25:48
With respect to taking that degree out. 02:25:51
You take the debris out. 02:25:55
You clean up the water. 02:25:57
And the channel begins to move. 02:26:00
A little bit faster because it's now different. 02:26:02
But you cannot move. 02:26:05
Huge amounts. 02:26:07
And we're talking. 02:26:09
Hundreds of tons of material. 02:26:10
That needed to go. 02:26:13
Out of the river. 02:26:15
Without having some effect. 02:26:17
On the river, it's not the same as it was before the fires, before the floods. 02:26:19
So this project is designed to go back. 02:26:26
And look at that. 02:26:29
Condition of the river. 02:26:30
You can imagine. 02:26:32
You know when you have a ditch? 02:26:33
That's all clean and there's a lot of water flowing down. It goes fast. 02:26:35
Tends to Rd. 02:26:39
You get an Arroyo, it goes different. 02:26:41
Different deal. 02:26:43
But over time. 02:26:45
Boulders and rocks and other sorts of wind, winding ways and. 02:26:47
Changes in the direction of flow. 02:26:51
Slows down that rhythm. 02:26:54
Allows for the sediment to actually fall. 02:26:56
Correctly. 02:27:00
So that you get a seal. 02:27:01
And the water continues to flow. 02:27:03
All the way down where it's supposed to. 02:27:05
That's one. 02:27:07
Two, you actually get some percolation. 02:27:08
That you wouldn't have gotten before. What does that mean? 02:27:12
That means that helps out of aquifers, the waters, the wells. 02:27:15
And so that's this project is designed to kind of. 02:27:19
Look at that and see what can we do. 02:27:22
To bring the river kind of back to a more natural state. 02:27:25
Additionally. 02:27:29
The effluent that comes out of. 02:27:30
The sewage system includes. 02:27:34
Nitrates and phosphates. It just has to. 02:27:36
Right. And so algae. 02:27:39
Grows in the river. 02:27:41
And that's not good for fish. It's not good for water quality. Reduces the oxygen. 02:27:43
And so we're talking about. 02:27:49
Perhaps putting up things like cattails and bulrush? 02:27:51
Areas, if you know, we're Seeking Springs is down there. 02:27:55
Here, I guess it'd be east of of Biscuitville. 02:27:59
There's an opportunity there to actually plant some of those things. 02:28:03
In the efforts to try to. 02:28:07
Clean the water like the water quality better. 02:28:10
Used to be trials. 02:28:12
Down in the Honda Val. 02:28:14
All right, be nice to get that back Sunday. 02:28:16
So anyway, we appreciate that work. 02:28:19
I think it's very important. 02:28:21
And it's. 02:28:23
It's not just. 02:28:24
Cleaning up, but it's actually trying to restore a little bit so so it's a good deal. 02:28:25
Thank you very much for enhancing. 02:28:30
Explanation of that you've really done your homework. 02:28:33
And I do want to add that you know this will lead to other projects. 02:28:37
Specifically, you know, Marks looking forward to water budget and we're really looking at and I'd like to work with. 02:28:43
The new grant administrator. 02:28:49
You know, we I alluded to working on a drought plan that I think I've. 02:28:52
I I know I feel it shifted my focus and. 02:28:57
You know better to focus on on the water resources that we have in the county and this will. 02:29:00
If we succeed with this, even if we don't. 02:29:06
We've already started a discussion of, you know, laying groundwork for additional water studies. 02:29:09
Now there's been a lot of water studies around the county, but they haven't really. 02:29:15
I like that they they focus on the northern part of the Sacramentos and we really need to start looking. 02:29:20
More specifically. 02:29:26
At these rivers and streams that we went looked at that have been affected by the fire, never didn't. 02:29:28
Or central to ruinoso. 02:29:34
And look at. 02:29:36
In one restoring the health of those but also, you know. 02:29:37
How much we actually have. 02:29:40
Available. How is that being utilized and how are we going to manage it for the future? 02:29:42
Because we can't just keep. 02:29:47
Pulling those straws, you know that cups going to get empty. 02:29:48
So we really need to do everything we can to to bring that back to health. Hope and pray for rain and. 02:29:51
So this is really just like this. 02:29:57
The tip of the iceberg of what we can do to really help the county. 02:29:59
Going forward, thank you so much. Appreciate your work. 02:30:04
Thank you. OK, Thank you. 02:30:08
So we're going to move on to the elected officials. I'd like to. 02:30:10
Start off with the. 02:30:14
Sheriff is not here but but. 02:30:16
Yes, you have something. 02:30:21
Mr. 02:30:23
German commissioners. 02:30:34
So just to give you a brief one down. 02:30:40
Of the statistics for the past month, since April 15th. 02:30:44
We've taken a total of 730 calls for service. 02:30:48
Of those calls for service. 02:30:52
144 reports were taken. 02:30:54
Which included 26. 02:30:57
Crashes and 29 arrests. 02:30:58
The Sheriff's Office received 34 warrants that are entered into. 02:31:03
NCIC to be, broadcaster to be. 02:31:09
Somebody comes in contact with the subject with the warrant. 02:31:14
Our records. 02:31:18
Coordinators also received 61 requests for public information. 02:31:19
And there have been 120. 02:31:24
Civil process services made. 02:31:28
Which includes subpoenas and writs and stuff like that. 02:31:30
Any questions? 02:31:35
Comments. 02:31:36
Turns. 02:31:37
Thank you very much. 02:31:41
Chair. Commissioners. 02:31:53
I wanted a couple things. 02:31:55
For us today and I wanted to start by introducing a new employee that I have in the office here. 02:31:57
And she has just started with our office. 02:32:04
A couple weeks ago. 02:32:09
And as. 02:32:11
A very quick learner and I think she's going to be an amazing. 02:32:12
Improvement and impact in our office as we're really happy to have her on board. She'll be recording. 02:32:17
She will also. 02:32:22
In the future. 02:32:24
At some point, hopefully be included in the Commission meetings and the minutes. 02:32:25
So that will be a huge help for office and we appreciate. 02:32:29
Next month, if not the next couple of months, we'll have a couple of resolutions that will be brought up to the Commission. 02:32:34
One is for our Board of registration. 02:32:48
And we appoint those in June or July of odd number of years. 02:32:49
And then they serve her the. 02:32:53
Two years after that. 02:32:55
And so the board of registration, you know, just met in. 02:32:57
February of this year. 02:33:02
And they were appointed. 02:33:05
Two years ago and so you're going to be appointing them now for. 02:33:06
Two years from now. 02:33:09
And so we'll bring that to you guys on a resolution in the next month or so. 02:33:11
And we are working with the. 02:33:15
The chairs of the different parties to get people who are interested and would be interested in on that. 02:33:18
Report and the other resolution we're going to be bringing forward is our polling place. 02:33:24
On resolution. 02:33:28
So we have to get that approved every couple of years as well. 02:33:29
And we are looking at doing a Poss. 02:33:32
Only a couple of changes in our polling locations. 02:33:34
And so we're trying to kind of iron those out. 02:33:38
And then I'll bring that up. 02:33:41
For you guys, once we get that resolution done, if we do have those changes, then we'll be reaching out to the community. 02:33:43
Or communities and letting them know. 02:33:51
Where those changes might be will be taking effect and. 02:33:53
And how it will affect them, but I think. 02:33:56
Looking at the different locations. 02:33:59
I think it'll be. 02:34:01
Good in both locations that were maybe two of the. 02:34:02
Three locations we're looking at. 02:34:06
I think it'll be good, more centrally located and easier access. 02:34:08
So we're really looking forward to getting those up for you guys here in the next month of June. 02:34:13
Thank you. Thank you. 02:34:17
Same question. 02:34:22
Mr. Assessor. 02:34:26
Mr. Chair, this year commissioners, viewers and one of the assessor. 02:34:27
I've had much to report. 02:34:31
Other than our protest, hearings have been scheduled for July 15th and 16th. 02:34:33
And with that Commission to. 02:34:38
It's important hopefully during maybe next month meeting. 02:34:42
They usually sign off for two year contracts I believe increase. 02:34:51
Contact expired in 2001. Four. 02:34:55
And usually I think you guys did a point for. 02:34:58
On a regular board. 02:35:02
And then two of them serve as alternates. 02:35:04
On each of those boards, there needs to be one general member of the public and then the other. 02:35:06
Disappointed, must have like real estate experience of some sort. 02:35:12
So I just wanted to bring that up because I want to be prepared. 02:35:17
We do have. 02:35:20
Is it a volunteer for? 02:35:24
Well, it's certainly volunteer for it, but they get paid. If they serve, they get. 02:35:26
Can't force them. 02:35:32
Yeah, that's just volunteer, but they can get pain to face. 02:35:36
Can I have the previous board members information? 02:35:41
I'm going to provide that to her or I know, Commissioner or chairman. Commissioner, you have some money. 02:35:45
Yeah, we had. We had that. 02:35:51
We should. 02:35:53
I want to make sure that we have plenty of time. 02:35:54
To get the right people. 02:35:57
You know and make sure. 02:35:58
That's done. 02:36:01
Steadfast manner. 02:36:03
Without being rushed. 02:36:04
So I appreciate you getting to us on that. 02:36:06
Anything else? 02:36:10
That's terrific. 02:36:12
Madam Treasurer. 02:36:13
Chairman Fisher. Commissioner Sherry Huddleston, Lincoln County Treasurer. 02:36:16
I just wanna say that. 02:36:19
Half stopping into Troy for working on the ERP Pro Tyler program. 02:36:22
It has been a lot. 02:36:28
But if you noticed in the front of your finance book there was 2 documents that. 02:36:30
Were from the Tyler program. 02:36:36
So we have been able to balance marches, bank accounts, reconciliations with expense reports and revenues. 02:36:38
And. 02:36:46
And. 02:36:49
It's kind of easing a little bit. I think we're getting a little bit more used to it, but we're having to do both programs so. 02:36:50
Hats off to my staff because they're having some receipt in the triadic program and also in the Tyler program. 02:36:58
And so it's a lot of double work, but we want to make sure that everything's coming through and it's balancing. 02:37:05
On our taxes. 02:37:11
We will not go live until next February I believe. 02:37:14
So we're going to have to continue doing both programs until then. 02:37:17
The assessor was supposed to go live in July. 02:37:22
It's been put off. 02:37:25
I think it's December, right? Yeah, well, they haven't given us the definitive date yet. 02:37:27
But it has been put off because. 02:37:32
They weren't going to be able to get that. 02:37:34
At first they told us they weren't going to be able to extract our modeling data, which is all about appraisal. 02:37:37
Yeah, so. 02:37:41
We were going to have to handily enter that. 02:37:43
Into the system. 02:37:45
I don't know how long. 02:37:47
How does this comport with? 02:37:50
Puts the contract. 02:37:52
Is it are are are they fulfilling the contract? We need to look at that. 02:37:55
I just keep hearing these delays you know that you guys are being subjected to. 02:37:59
And and I don't know if that's. 02:38:04
Something that they're not doing and they should be doing or whether we've got any leverage whatsoever. Can we look at that? We're 02:38:07
working on that. 02:38:10
So there's we're, we're reviewing their contract, Mr. Chairman. 02:38:15
It's it's a lot of information to bring over. 02:38:21
And there's a lot of nuances that got to be brought over in the correct sequence to. 02:38:24
Make sure they all. 02:38:28
Right, right. Yeah, we're we are reviewing that. I just like to know something next. 02:38:31
Next meeting. 02:38:36
If there's any any leverage? 02:38:37
Available any. 02:38:40
Help that that we need to do because this is business of waiting till. 02:38:42
February is an example. 02:38:46
Commissioners trying to statute Deputy Treasurer. 02:38:48
So I can talk a little bit on the programs like the modules Why There are joys. 02:38:52
So for instance, the ER Pro 10 program, their finance program. 02:38:57
They have a huge staff. 02:39:01
Availability on their end. 02:39:03
So implementation if. 02:39:05
If we're pushed off, a week or so. 02:39:07
They have the stats that they can push off. 02:39:09
But the other modules for Eagle, which is going to be the assessors and also the Treasures plus. 02:39:12
Their implementation and conversion team is very small. 02:39:18
So if we get pushed off, they have other projects. 02:39:22
It doesn't just skip a week for us, it puts us back at the end of the line and so for our. 02:39:25
Our module. 02:39:32
Because of the timing with the assessors going live. 02:39:33
They have three other counties that they're implementing like that's going through the same thing that we're going through, but 02:39:36
they don't have the staff. 02:39:39
So that's why we're pushed out so far. 02:39:42
And that's going to be the same thing with the HR module. The HR module, they gave us the short window that we could not. 02:39:45
Get the information or time availability between our staff to actually get the. 02:39:52
Just to get it correct, you know. 02:40:00
For us not to be rushed and so that was pushed off. 02:40:01
So HR is not going to go live for. 02:40:04
So quarter 3? 02:40:07
Order 3. 02:40:09
Quarter three, quarter 4, which is going to be around the time that our W twos are coming up. 02:40:12
So there's a lot of stuff. 02:40:18
When working with Tyler, that has been. 02:40:20
Very beneficial, but then there's things on their end too that they just don't have the staff to keep up. 02:40:23
And when we don't have the exact timeline that they need. 02:40:29
It pushes its way up. 02:40:32
It just seems. 02:40:35
And I can understand that, I can comprehend that. 02:40:36
But it it would seem that we are not necessarily unique. 02:40:40
In in those problems that the other counties. 02:40:44
Trying to work with. 02:40:47
Will also have. 02:40:48
Some issues too so. 02:40:50
I'd like to. I'd like to see Mr. Manager, if there's not the ability to kind of. 02:40:53
Negotiate that time sharing of assets. 02:40:57
So that we're not always at the end, you know? 02:41:01
So so County B then. 02:41:04
Has a problem that may be. 02:41:06
Then they come after us. You see it? 02:41:07
Somehow that thought process may not be the most efficient. 02:41:10
Use of time. 02:41:14
For anybody. 02:41:15
So. So let's let's just look at that that's even possible. 02:41:17
I appreciate that update. 02:41:21
Anything else? 02:41:24
Yeah, yeah, you certainly did. 02:41:26
So so I I think I think the next. 02:41:31
Pieces to uh. 02:41:34
Go to the departments, right? 02:41:36
So I guess the early bird gets a worm we're going to have. 02:41:42
So it's OK. 02:41:46
That's good. 02:41:49
I like that, Chairman Fisher Commissioners. 02:41:54
Aaron Gruen. 02:41:57
Emergency Services director. 02:41:58
So looking at the month of April. 02:42:00
The Volunteer Fire department's responded to 33 calls for service. 02:42:03
Including two brush fires, 8 pulse alarms. 02:42:07
13 motor vehicle accidents, 2 power line down calls. 02:42:10
Or illegal burns. 02:42:14
Three EMS assist and one gas leak. 02:42:15
For our OPS update from OS, we've been busy with trying to get the launch of our new reporting program off the ground. Our new. 02:42:20
Cellular dispatch off the ground. 02:42:29
As well as attending meetings and functional exercises. So Brian attended the monsoon exercise with the village of Ruidoso. 02:42:32
And then at the same time, I went and met with the newly formed SE Mexico Fire Chiefs Association. 02:42:41
We put that before all of our Volunteer Fire chiefs and they all signed a letter of intent to become members of this association. 02:42:48
I think it's going to be really good for us. There's some really exciting stuff coming out of that. 02:42:55
With that, I was also elected as the Vice Chair of the Executive Advisory Committee for that association. 02:43:00
So we're going to definitely have a voice. 02:43:06
In the association going forward. 02:43:08
Looking at some of our projects, the Hondo water storage system. 02:43:11
We're getting close to completion on that. The pump has arrived, it has been put in place. They just got to go in and finish 02:43:15
plumbing that. 02:43:19
And then we'll be able to start operating that system, getting some water in those tanks and using that in the very near future. 02:43:22
The White Oaks Volunteer Fire Department expansion The building expansion has been completed. 02:43:29
Is my understanding that they are? 02:43:34
Either really closer. 02:43:36
Like within days of going and doing all the final inspections and stuff like that. 02:43:38
I personally went out there, took a look at it with Fire Chief Nikowski from the White Oaks Fire Department. 02:43:43
And they are super, super excited about that. That's going to be a major, major asset to that department. 02:43:49
And then the captain repeater site generator. 02:43:55
They went up last week, installed the generator. 02:43:59
We're just waiting on them either final checks and balances and make sure that everything is going to work right and we'll be able 02:44:02
to bring the new generator for the captain side online. 02:44:06
The Firewise community or the Wildfire hardening program? 02:44:12
We attended 3 HOA meetings. 02:44:15
And and held two public meetings for the program. We held a public meeting in Ruidoso Downs and we held another one at the Nogal 02:44:19
Fire Station for the Loma Grande area. 02:44:24
Well, we didn't get the attendance that we were hoping for at those public meetings. 02:44:30
They were very. 02:44:34
The the participants were very vocal. 02:44:38
They wanted to participate. They were there. They had a purpose to be there. They want to participate in this program. 02:44:40
The biggest complaint that we're getting back right now is. 02:44:46
The cost of getting rid of the debris. So we've been pushing things like. 02:44:49
Mr. Barbers. 02:44:54
There are curtain incinerators and stuff like that, trying to come up with some new and. 02:44:55
Innovative ways to deal with that. 02:44:59
And then as far as the weather update goes? 02:45:02
We're back into our hot, dry, windy kind of time frame. I did see a new. 02:45:05
Forecast come out last night that I need to do some more digging into. 02:45:11
They took away our above average chances for monsoons this year and put us back to equal chances, so we need to tie in with the 02:45:15
Weather Service and find out why that is happening. 02:45:19
Not that they have any control over it, but I'd be really. 02:45:24
Interested to know why that happened. 02:45:27
Other than that, I'll. 02:45:29
You've got. I know you're working on on. 02:45:33
Increasing the water capacity at certain locations. We've got a couple of our. 02:45:38
Fire departments that have water but don't have. 02:45:42
Hybrids, is that true? So we have one, they have the water system and the pump. 02:45:46
However, they do not have the hydrant and I also requires a fire hydrant for whatever reason to be present on the ground. So where 02:45:51
are we on there? So we rolled that into the capital outlay funds. 02:45:56
So our hopes with the capital outlay funds at $1 million that we've been earmarked for with the state. 02:46:02
To do three complete water systems and finish out that. 02:46:07
Water system at the Sunterra fire station. 02:46:11
Install a fire hydrant there. 02:46:13
So we should have the money available, right? 02:46:14
I have not heard if we have the money available to start spending yet, but. 02:46:17
I know that. 02:46:21
We were granted that through that way. 02:46:22
So I think. 02:46:24
I think, I mean, maybe, maybe you don't know, but I think that money becomes available. 02:46:26
Beginning of the fiscal year, we answered their questionnaires for the capital outlay. We'll receive agreements from those soon. 02:46:31
It usually kind of differs a little bit when we get the agreements in. 02:46:37
That money should be available. 02:46:41
So that's just through our DFA when they get. 02:46:46
Right. So we're, we're stepping through that process. 02:46:51
I'm just wondering, I don't know what the sense of the Commission is, but I don't know. 02:46:54
If we get a. 02:46:58
A positive thumbs up if that's going to happen. 02:47:00
I wonder if the Commission might entertain. 02:47:04
TFA rules on the wallet. 02:47:09
Just start work on it. 02:47:11
Get reimbursed. 02:47:16
Can't get reimbursed. 02:47:22
No, we'll, we'll bring you some press. There's a few things we can do at anytime like the procurement and do it. 02:47:23
We can't technically expend any funds until we have the agreements in hand. 02:47:28
Yeah. So, but we could do the procurement, we can have the plans in place. 02:47:32
They know exactly where we're going, what we're going to do. 02:47:36
So that as soon as those. 02:47:39
When's the next fire? 02:47:44
Tomorrow. 02:47:45
OK. Thank you. 02:47:48
Mr. Commissioners. 02:47:57
It. 02:48:08
Surely you're not going to drink? 02:48:11
I guess Paul, Amanda still here, I guess I'll kind of touch on. 02:48:16
On the projects that she mentioned that we are. 02:48:21
In discussions with with Lincoln National Forest. 02:48:24
I did meet with Andreas and Tim. 02:48:27
At their office earlier this. 02:48:30
Last week. Later last week. 02:48:32
And. 02:48:34
They do have money available. We're. 02:48:35
Probably. 02:48:37
In the $10 million range. 02:48:39
To do some projects on Banjo. 02:48:41
And completely. 02:48:43
Resurface the. 02:48:46
Bonita Lake Rd. 02:48:48
From the highway all the way to the back to the tan park. 02:48:49
So what they've asked us to do? 02:48:52
Our main is to administer those projects. 02:48:55
So they would actually provide us the money. 02:48:58
And then we would procure those projects with the contractors of the Needle Lake Rd. project we would probably do in house. 02:49:01
But the module project we would do with the contract. 02:49:07
So still in discussions. We'll find out more around the July time frame. 02:49:11
But along with that money that's available to them, they also have. 02:49:15
Approximately $4,000,000 to help us maintain those roads. 02:49:20
Moving forward. 02:49:24
So it's not a one and done type deal. So there's actually money there for us to kind of continue our mates. 02:49:26
So it is something that's very interesting for us. 02:49:31
Here and it's a project that we've done before. 02:49:35
With the Forest Service, they call it a SPA. 02:49:38
So special project agreement. 02:49:41
So they kind of pass money through us and then we take it over. 02:49:42
But it's a pretty good deal. 02:49:47
And Andres and those guys were really. 02:49:48
Helpful explaining all that so. 02:49:50
That is on the horizon here in the next couple of months. 02:49:53
I'd also like to. 02:49:56
Let you guys know, Commissioner Sarah and I went to Las Cruces and presented to the Colonial sport earlier this month. 02:49:58
And we've got a recommendation letter. 02:50:04
From the Columbia's board recommending our plan and design project for branches of Ruidoso Valley Estates. 02:50:08
It was a $460,000 ***. 02:50:14
And. 02:50:17
We'll find out on June 26. They'll give the final approval letter. 02:50:18
But it looks like we're right in line to receive that. 02:50:22
Funded so that will be. 02:50:25
Step number one for. 02:50:29
Taking care of the potential $4 million project. 02:50:30
This is really Coastal Valley Estates. We have to have a plan set before we can actually. 02:50:34
It constructionally. 02:50:38
Is there a match component today? 02:50:39
Yeah, Commissioner, Sir, there is. It's a 10% match and a loan component just like the other Columbia scratch so. 02:50:41
Approximately I mean 46,000 in the match. 02:50:48
And then whatever the loan. 02:50:52
Component would be. 02:50:53
So also on that our manager will be presenting for. 02:50:56
Us at the Circle board tomorrow, we will be going and asking for planning and design. 02:51:02
Grant again for Dutton. 02:51:08
It's a $421,000. 02:51:10
Half $21,000 match. It's a 5% match. 02:51:13
On the TPF. 02:51:17
So it would be a $21,000 match and a $399,000. 02:51:18
For core Dutton and also our maintenance projects, we have a $2,000,000 ask. 02:51:23
For chips, hill and and microsurface of a valley loop. 02:51:28
And also with Jenna Porsche. 02:51:32
And manager Burns will be presenting that. 02:51:34
Tomorrow at the. 02:51:37
So commitment so. 02:51:38
That is on the horizon as well. 02:51:40
For the L value loop E bridge. 02:51:45
Speaking with Commissioner Sarah there. 02:51:47
Are funds coming available from CDBG? 02:51:50
The Doctor. 02:51:53
Part of it, they're not available yet, but the debt disaster recovery. 02:51:54
No match, no cap. 02:51:58
So it's something that I need to. 02:52:01
Mr. Coleman. 02:52:03
And kind of discuss and see when those become available, we can, uh. 02:52:04
Put in for those as well. We might find us a later. 02:52:09
Get some money with no match on that. 02:52:11
So that would be a big help as well. Those are great funding opportunities. 02:52:14
Those are all coming up here in the next. 02:52:18
Few weeks I guess, so we'll go to work on those. 02:52:21
No pressure rock. 02:52:24
The ******* the door, Batista. 02:52:27
The dates aren't finalized just yet. 02:52:30
But she may find something on Thursday when we meet with her. 02:52:32
Sounds like it's it's. 02:52:36
Extending any data now. 02:52:38
For our current projects, I know there's a lot of. 02:52:45
Questions. 02:52:48
About what we have going on in Sandestin, I'll kind of hit that one last, but. 02:52:50
Currently we have projects going on on port Lone Tree where the 65 to 70%. 02:52:55
Complete range on based on that particular phase which is Phase 2. 02:53:00
They are currently working on that. Renegade Construction are on call contractors doing work out there. 02:53:05
On that project. 02:53:11
Lower Eagle Creek structure line, which is part of the junior build money. That's a one point. 02:53:13
Almost $1.4 million replacement of that structure. 02:53:18
The process is all going right now. 02:53:22
And we are looking to try to get that completed before June 30th when that money gets recalled. 02:53:25