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How's how's Karina? 00:00:01
She's the. 00:00:03
Particularly that job. 00:00:11
Want to call this Board of County Commissioners? Regular meeting to order time is 0831. 00:00:14
Madam Clerk, roll call, please. 00:00:22
Now I'd like to stand for the invocation. 00:00:35
Please. 00:00:41
Lord, as we guarantee. 00:00:43
Together today I. 00:00:44
Pray that you guide us with your wisdom. 00:00:45
May we seek unity and and work diligently for the wealthy and our. 00:00:47
And put aside a personal agendas for the betterment of those around us and those that we serve, Lord. 00:00:53
Today I also pray for the rain in abundance that. 00:00:58
That you have planned for us. I thank you that you have. 00:01:01
Good plans for us and. 00:01:04
And our hearts will rejoice when that rain comes. 00:01:05
I'm looking for a motion to approve the agenda on authorizing the. 00:01:29
Care to move items if necessary? Do we have a motion? 00:01:39
2nd please. 00:01:47
Yes, Mr. Wilson. 00:01:51
Commissioner Chavez. Commissioner Aye. Chair Fischer aye Motion. 00:01:53
Thank you. 00:01:57
We'll move to item number six. That would be the approval of the minutes March 18th meeting. 00:02:00
Do you have any comments, questions or corrections requested? 00:02:05
Move that we passed and that we approve the minutes for March. 00:02:18
18.5. 00:02:22
2nd. 00:02:25
Second, any discussion? 00:02:28
Hearing none, Madam Clerk will call please. 00:02:31
Commissioner Wilson. 00:02:34
Just Commissioner service. 00:02:36
Commissioner Rader Aye, Chair Fischer. 00:02:38
Aye. 00:02:40
Thank you. We'll move to item number 7. 00:02:41
And this is approval, the consent agenda I have. 00:02:45
I'd like to see a number of these come out. 00:02:48
For further discussion and. 00:02:51
Illumination. 00:02:53
I would like to take C. 00:02:54
D&E. 00:02:57
Now it's approving the consent agenda. 00:02:59
Do we have any others? 00:03:02
Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to approve the. 00:03:06
Said Agenda A&B. 00:03:10
And then we'll talk about cDNA. 00:03:13
I have a group. 00:03:17
A the on the agenda. 00:03:19
Thank you. 00:03:22
478-B. 00:03:26
Commissioner. 00:03:29
Commissioner Wilson. Chair Fischer. 00:03:33
All right, request. 00:03:35
Mr. Analog, come up and discuss. 00:03:40
The approval of safety net care and indigent health care claims. 00:03:43
Chairman Fisher Commissioners got analytical health care assistance. 00:03:49
Program Manager. 00:03:52
Once again. 00:03:54
I do not have any client to present. 00:03:55
This month they did not send me anything. 00:03:58
That is amazing. 00:04:02
You don't have any explanation for that, I guess. 00:04:07
Sir, I do not. 00:04:10
OK. Do you have a some ground figures on what we have in the pools? 00:04:12
Number tonight I I have my total indigent claim money. 00:04:18
200,000 I do believe. 00:04:24
I did do an. 00:04:27
Indigent Cremation. 00:04:29
Other than that, we're looking, we're looking good. 00:04:32
Thank you, Sir. I appreciate that. 00:04:37
So the next is the approval of Fire Protection Fund applications from Lincoln County Volunteer Fire Departments. 00:04:43
Aaron, I guess I have a few questions if you don't mind. 00:04:56
Good morning. 00:05:02
So. 00:05:04
I guess. 00:05:07
The general question that I have. 00:05:08
Because I I'm sure just because I don't understand it. 00:05:10
A number of the volunteer party departments have a lot of money they're rolling over. 00:05:15
What's #1. 00:05:20
And then and then on top of that. 00:05:22
The request. 00:05:25
From one fire department to the next, you know they buried, right? They were. 00:05:27
Can you? 00:05:31
Illuminate why. 00:05:32
We have these rollovers and what is there a plan for their distribution? 00:05:35
That's the second question. And then the third question is. 00:05:40
How do we put together a plan? 00:05:43
Who's doing that and under what circumstances? 00:05:45
Is the Commissioner. 00:05:49
Or Chairman Fisher. 00:05:50
So the reason that the. 00:05:54
Differ is based on their ISO. 00:05:55
So each department ISO score. 00:05:58
Dictates how much money the state will give them. 00:06:01
So. 00:06:04
It's a predetermined amount, which is usually lower than what the department actually receives. 00:06:05
Which is marked on the second page. 00:06:11
That is the. 00:06:16
The phase amount that that department will receive from the state. 00:06:18
These applications are pretty much just a formality saying that yes, we're requesting Fire Protection fund. I don't know why any 00:06:22
fire department in the state wouldn't. 00:06:26
But this is basically just the formality of us asking for it. 00:06:30
OK. So as far as their rollovers go? 00:06:34
The departments are able to roll over funds. 00:06:37
Instead of use it or lose it kind of thing. 00:06:39
And they use those funds to do things such as building extensions, purchase new apparatus. 00:06:42
Things like that. 00:06:48
And as far as the plans go, the Chiefs usually put together those plans so. 00:06:49
The Needle Fire Department, for example, wants to buy a new rescue truck. That is what they're saving up their rollover funds for. 00:06:54
Chief Baldwin is out obtaining those quotes, talking with vendors. 00:07:01
Doing that kind of stuff, he's the one that's building that plan to purchase that new. 00:07:05
Keep that right. Yeah, that's great. 00:07:08
So I I fully understand the delta between ISO scores and. 00:07:10
Or classifications and how much money there that's available. 00:07:15
But even. 00:07:19
I think if you look at. 00:07:20
The ones that are at six, are they all the same in terms of what they're asking for from the fire Marshall? 00:07:22
So they should be, yes. 00:07:28
All the ISO class sixes should be the same. 00:07:30
That is a an amount that is set for the State Fire Marshals office. 00:07:33
Further ISO scores. 00:07:39
So the only two that should be different would be. 00:07:42
The amount also varies based on the number of stations they have. 00:07:48
And the. 00:07:55
The difference between main stations and substations. 00:07:56
So if you do see a difference in any of the ISO classics departments, it's going to be just based on the number of stations. 00:08:01
You know, I just. 00:08:13
And just was thinking. 00:08:14
So we're right now we're looking for. 00:08:15
Money for. 00:08:18
The firefighting training center, right. 00:08:19
We've got some. 00:08:22
Irons in the fire, we've not gotten much back yet in terms of commitment. 00:08:23
But it seems to me. 00:08:29
That when you look at the amount of rollover in there and I don't, I didn't do the math, but it's, you know, you're well above a 00:08:31
million, you're almost 2 million. 00:08:36
Plus right for rollovers. 00:08:41
One to imagine. 00:08:45
That they could they could buy their own firefighting training center. 00:08:47
With that money? 00:08:50
Yes, Sir. 00:08:53
So there is a rule that prevents them from mixing fire funds. I'd have to talk with the state Fire Marshall's office to see if 00:08:54
they would allow us to kind of pull money together. It would be. 00:09:00
At their leisure, if you will, if they would allow us to do that. And then I can always pose that question to the Chiefs and see 00:09:05
if they would be willing to. 00:09:09
I am not interested. 00:09:14
As a Commissioner. 00:09:16
In directing. 00:09:18
And I can't. 00:09:19
Direct what the chief do. 00:09:20
They're independent. 00:09:22
Our volunteers, we want them to have that independence. 00:09:24
But it might be helpful. 00:09:28
And they might support. 00:09:30
Underwriting that act. 00:09:32
That activity in that effort. 00:09:33
Absolutely. And I would be willing to say that a few of them would definitely be willing to pitch in as long as the State Fire 00:09:35
Marshall's office would allow him to kind of put those monies together. 00:09:39
And I can, I can ask all of them. We'll have them as a collective group later this week. And so I can ask them if they would all 00:09:45
be willing to do that. 00:09:48
See how much they would be willing to. 00:09:52
To put forth for that. 00:09:55
Well, it's just, it's just a thought. 00:09:57
Yes, Sir, I'd like to know where they stand up. 00:09:59
I mean, our desire is to get grants for it, right? 00:10:02
Absolutely. And that's what we're looking for. But. 00:10:05
One could imagine. 00:10:08
That that they might be able to help out too. 00:10:10
Because it will help. 00:10:12
Health and trading so. 00:10:13
And on, on and on. 00:10:15
I was really. I'll get an answer on that for you. 00:10:17
OK. I I think thank you. 00:10:23
So the next one is. 00:10:25
7 Echo Approval Plumbing and Apex contract with Ventura Plumbing Heating. 00:10:33
Cooling. 00:10:37
Who do we have to represent? 00:10:40
That's one there. 00:10:41
I guess no one. 00:10:45
Now I'd like to put on my county manager at. 00:10:46
So if you if you go to. 00:10:51
That part of your. 00:10:55
There were some questions. 00:11:01
That, uh. 00:11:04
This is ridiculous. I'm I'm. 00:11:07
County Commissioner. 00:11:10
The chairman. 00:11:12
And in some respects, I'm glad to fulfill the county manager show up. 00:11:14
Probably not doing any of the three justice. 00:11:18
So bear with me. 00:11:21
But if you look at the. 00:11:23
First contract. 00:11:27
Says Master Plumber $140. 00:11:33
For our journeyman 135 per hour. 00:11:36
And then we looked at. 00:11:42
Right underneath here and this is Page 1 of 10. 00:11:44
Looking at. 00:11:47
We look at the cost plus 45% markup below 2000. 00:11:49
And 25% marked up above 2000 and then mileage and travel with 300. 00:11:55
Dollars at a fixed rate. 00:12:00
I I quite frankly am not. 00:12:04
Happy with? 00:12:06
The rates, are there any comments here from the Commission? 00:12:08
I'm not happy to raise you. 00:12:12
Evaluate this. 00:12:18
Yeah, it needs to be, I think renegotiated in life with you. 00:12:19
Any other comments? 00:12:22
I just don't understand the. 00:12:24
Large difference on the. 00:12:26
The HVAC contract their mileage. 00:12:28
There's a fixed rate. 00:12:31
Also for 100. 00:12:32
Right, I would agree with that. I hadn't moved to that. 00:12:35
On yet, but you're quite right, I would have said the same thing. 00:12:38
And yeah, Journeyman 110, Apprentice 110, there's no delta in the in the rate. 00:12:43
Cost plus 35% markup is is pretty stiff when you're adding. 00:12:50
Mileage on top of that. So my assumption is that. 00:12:55
It's mileage. 00:12:58
To go to the store wherever you're getting the material. 00:13:00
Buying the materials and you're adding 35% on top of that. 00:13:03
It's a cascading. 00:13:07
Issue. 00:13:10
So. 00:13:12
From my my standpoint. 00:13:14
From the position that I sit at. 00:13:17
County Manager, I recommend this approval. 00:13:19
For both these contracts and this proving negotiations. 00:13:26
One second. 00:13:29
That's my recommendation that we do have a motion. 00:13:32
Make a motion to approve the plumbing and extract. 00:13:37
Contractors for the point of view. 00:13:40
RP24-205-4. 00:13:43
And RFP 24-205-5. 00:13:46
Give me a second. 00:13:50
2nd. 00:13:52
Any discussion? 00:13:53
Madam Clerk, roll call, please. 00:14:00
Commissioner Chavez. 00:14:02
No, Commissioner Wilson, Yes. 00:14:03
Commissioner Serna. 00:14:06
No, Commissioner Prather. 00:14:07
No, Chair Fisher. 00:14:09
Nay, motion fails 41. 00:14:12
OK, we'll go to 8. 00:14:18
For the finance Clinton County treasure. 00:14:21
Madam Treasure Huddleston, you have the day. 00:14:24
Or the floor, as it were. 00:14:29
OK. Sorry, Chair. 00:14:34
You have to finish conference. 00:14:36
CD. 00:14:38
Thank you. 00:14:43
So I need a motion to approve the consent agenda. 00:14:47
CD and E. 00:14:51
Hey, Cortana. 00:15:09
Commissioner Chavez. 00:15:10
Commissioner, prevail. 00:15:11
Aye, Commissioner Wilson, Chair Fisher. 00:15:13
All right. So, so I do have a question, maybe it's parliamentary. 00:15:15
I mean we we probably should have or are thinking. 00:15:21
Approve E. 00:15:25
As part of the consent agenda. 00:15:28
And then we disprove it. 00:15:31
And emotion. Is that true or I'm overthinking it? 00:15:32
Mr. Chair, I think how you did it's fine, OK. 00:15:35
I think that. 00:15:38
Yeah, it's. 00:15:39
Handled both ways OK. Thank you Hon. 00:15:42
All right, let's move on to a. 00:15:47
Thank you. 00:15:49
Good morning, Chair Fisher, Commissioner Sherry Huddleston, Lincoln County. 00:15:52
Providing an update on activities within the Treasurer's office and reviewing the financial report for the most. 00:15:57
March 31st, 2025. 00:16:03
Fresher's Financial report, March 31st, 2025. 00:16:06
Page 1. General Funds. 00:16:10
Line 401. 00:16:12
The General Fund Union balance of the March 31st. 00:16:14
Is $13,856,580.75. 00:16:17
Compared to 15.3 million at the same time last year. 00:16:22
General Fund Receipt, Page 3. 00:16:28
This section provides a breakdown of general fund revenue accounts with budgeted. 00:16:30
Projected. Budgeted. 00:16:35
Revenue for two thousand 2425. 00:16:37
Is 18,685,801 dollars. 00:16:40
As of March 31st, we have collected 69% of those revenues. 00:16:44
Investment fund balances. 00:16:50
And bank reconciliation, page 14. 00:16:52
The average percentage rate of investments for March 2025 is as follows. Local Government Investment Pool 4.3382%. 00:16:56
CD's 4.33%. 00:17:06
Many market accounts 3.58%. 00:17:08
Operational Account. 00:17:12
2.175%. 00:17:13
Interest earned. 00:17:15
To date for the general fund. 00:17:17
IS 1,000,000. 00:17:19
$4127.88 We're doing very well on interest 30. 00:17:21
Total cash held by. 00:17:27
The treasurer's office. 00:17:28
As of March 31st, 2025 was $60,179,299.07. 00:17:29
I have provided a fund balance report from the Tyler program. 00:17:38
That would be the handout I gave you earlier this morning. 00:17:42
If you look at it, we're just kind of letting you know what it's going to look like. 00:17:46
At the end, the balance of the 60 million. 00:17:51
179 Two, 9907. 00:17:55
It balances to the penny to our triadic program. 00:17:58
So everything in there. 00:18:02
The difference between this report and the report we have in our finance book is that. 00:18:05
They put the. 00:18:10
Transfers in and the transfers out. 00:18:12
Under revenues and expenses, so they're not. 00:18:14
Separated. 00:18:17
But so far everything is going good with Tyler and I have to say half off to Troy because he's been putting in a lot of time and 00:18:19
effort into this, so. 00:18:23
We need to, really. 00:18:27
You know, Troy, kudos for that. 00:18:28
He's worked very hard. Thank you, Troy. Thank you, Troy. 00:18:30
Tax Schedule Maintenance Report, Page 21. 00:18:34
As of March 31st, the Treasurer's office has collected 73.87% of the taxes bill for 2024. 00:18:38
This is consistent with last year's collection. 00:18:45
Of 73.83% at the same time. 00:18:48
Same point in time. 00:18:52
Additional financial highlights. 00:18:54
The remaining pages of the financial report include property tax distribution. 00:18:56
Debt obligation bond payment schedules. 00:19:01
For the Lincoln County Medical Center, the fire department. 00:19:04
Colonial's Mogado Creek Water project. 00:19:07
Do I have any questions yet? 00:19:11
Additionally, I provided A handout summarizing gross receipts tax revenues for the past four years. 00:19:17
Notably, this year's GRT collections are on track to surpass previous years. 00:19:23
With three months remaining in the fiscal year. 00:19:29
Chairman Fisher Commissioners, this concludes my report. I am available to answer any questions you may have. 00:19:33
Thank you. Thank you. 00:19:40
Creek project, What is that? 00:19:48
So that is for the. 00:19:51
Bridge just. 00:19:53
Bridges Fairgrounds. 00:19:55
Oh. 00:19:56
What's going on, Creep? 00:20:02
All right. Thank you. 00:20:06
I think it's quite extraordinary that that. 00:20:09
As long as it is, we initially thought. 00:20:14
I believe it's always the construction work going on for the. 00:20:18
And you know, the debris and everything. So everybody, all the contractors are paying in their GRT. So yeah, that. 00:20:22
Unfortunately, you know, it comes back to us. 00:20:29
That's why I like to hire local contractors. 00:20:35
I'm gonna ask. 00:20:39
So. 00:20:40
So Commissioner Cerner went to Commissioners affiliate. 00:20:42
Yesterday up at the end. 00:20:45
As well as. 00:20:47
Commissioner Prater. 00:20:48
There's something horrifying. 00:20:50
Potentially horrifying. 00:20:52
Was revealed to us on the half the chief conscious outline. 00:20:55
Best you can. 00:21:00
Because it's a confusing. 00:21:01
So. 00:21:05
With the uh. 00:21:07
Governor signing into a House Bill 295. 00:21:08
We have an existing PILT payment agreement with patterns. 00:21:13
Scheduled to commence next year. 00:21:17
But with that bill, it does away with them paying. 00:21:21
Property taxes. 00:21:24
Even when the property is leased to private entities. 00:21:26
So we need to review our existing agreement with them. 00:21:29
To find out. 00:21:34
If this new law is going to undermine the enforceability of our existing. 00:21:36
And see if they have a legal law. 00:21:41
Obligation to continue with that. 00:21:43
I know a lot of school districts are counting on. 00:21:46
Revenue stream and. 00:21:49
So are we. 00:21:52
So we need to. 00:21:53
Get some insight into that and. 00:21:55
If any of the staff can locate that original agreement. 00:21:57
Potentially looking back through Alan Styles and get that over to Michael, that's going to be incredibly helpful. 00:22:01
That we don't have to. 00:22:07
That turns out to be an action item for three guys, right? Look at the agreement. 00:22:09
Look at the legislation and try to figure out whether or not. 00:22:14
Were adversely affected by it. 00:22:17
Either totally or how much. 00:22:19
And Mr. Chair, Commissioner sermon, I'll get with Ellen as well. 00:22:21
See if he has any history on it. 00:22:24
I appreciate that. Thank you. 00:22:26
If you all remember a little bit of history, short history actually, even before I was Commissioner. 00:22:29
There were big plans being made for the expected or anticipated or desired or wish for. 00:22:35
Money, uh. 00:22:41
Coming from that project from the. 00:22:42
The Pill. 00:22:46
And it's not, it's not clear. 00:22:47
Where that's going to be going forward, So that's why. 00:22:49
Being conservative fiscally for sure is important. 00:22:52
I'd like to go move on if there's no other comments. 00:22:57
On the budget. 00:23:00
I'd like to move on to 10 and. 00:23:03
Do we have somebody from the Smokey Bear Arrangement District? 00:23:05
That's great. 00:23:10
Were you planning to deny later? 00:23:14
For you. 00:23:17
Yeah, I guess. 00:23:20
She just walked out, but I guess, yeah, we can do that. 00:23:22
So we've got on #9 if you look at the. 00:23:26
The budget resolution. 00:23:29
And that adjustment? 00:23:41
And you'll see the sale of county property of. 00:23:43
821 dollars I believe that's nothing more than. 00:23:46
The stretcher that was. 00:23:50
No longer needed. 00:23:53
Placed by a newer 1. 00:23:55
And he only got $821.00 for that, which is. 00:23:57
Pretty good. 00:24:00
In a safety net pool. 00:24:01
That particular adjustment I I look forward to. 00:24:05
A motion to approve. 00:24:08
Resolution 2025 Dash 52 Budget adjustment for fiscal year 2425. 00:24:15
7 We'll call. 00:24:21
Mr. Wilson, Commissioner Chavez. 00:24:26
Right. 00:24:32
OK. Thank you. 00:24:34
Move on to 10. 00:24:36
Seeing that there's nobody from the Punky Bear Ranger District. 00:24:38
I'd like to go to Lincoln County MSU Extension services. 00:24:43
Chairman, Commissioners, Melanie. Guitarist, Lincoln County Extensive service. 00:24:47
We've kind of been all over. 00:24:53
We attended senior leadership retreat with five senior level kids. 00:24:56
We did that. 00:25:01
And Gloria? 00:25:03
A weekend? I don't know. You've been everywhere. 00:25:04
We hosted a lamb and goat sale for 4H kids from across the state we had kids from. 00:25:08
Silver City Grant scheming. 00:25:14
All the way down there. 00:25:16
Towards we had some come down from Clayton until we had a lot of kids come. 00:25:18
And do that animals sold fairly well. 00:25:23
I just got back Sunday afternoon. 00:25:27
From Youth Get Away, which is a leadership camp for novice and junior members, so those from like. 00:25:30
3rd grade to 7th grade. 00:25:35
We took 27 kids from the county. We also took 5. 00:25:38
Older senior member kids who served as camp counselors. 00:25:42
And they go through an application process for that to brag on our kids a little bit we had. 00:25:46
20 counselors. 00:25:53
And five were from Lincoln County. 00:25:55
And so I was pretty impressed with that. But what the kids do. 00:25:57
Is they go around to different workshops throughout the day. 00:26:01
The kids learned how to do sutures and animals. 00:26:04
They learn rocket propulsion. 00:26:08
They did some parliamentary procedure. 00:26:11
There's a whole gamut of things that those kids have done. We have about 350 kids across the state attend that event. And so it 00:26:14
was. 00:26:18
It was a large event. There's a lot of moving parts when you haul 20. 00:26:22
Burtwell, 32 Kids. 00:26:26
Up to Oriata camp, so that was that was a big undertaking but everybody had a great time, everybody came back. 00:26:29
Healthy, so that's always good. Usually we have one throw up. 00:26:35
For several girls, but we did good. 00:26:38
We will be helping with the Cowbells AG Day here in Carrizoza coming up on the 1st of May. 00:26:42
We're fixing to start judging practices. 00:26:50
For all the novice, junior and senior members, we're hitting that pretty hard. 00:26:52
We usually do that at the end of May. 00:26:56
1st of June, but with our livestock. 00:26:58
Regional livestock. 00:27:01
Camp coming in. 00:27:02
I'm going to be really busy that week and then the next week we have our. 00:27:04
Lamb and goat jackpot. And so things are fixing to get busy. So it is very much the calm before the storm. 00:27:08
I stand for questions. 00:27:15
We love hearing what's going on. I'm glad to. 00:27:20
Not too many kids got sick. That's. 00:27:23
Yeah, that's yeah. Lots of other ones did, but none of ours. 00:27:24
You you realize that? 00:27:30
The sign that we have at the fairgrounds is now operational. I saw that when I drove by the other day, yes. And so to get stuff 00:27:31
put on there, I get with. 00:27:36
To remind me with you. OK, All right, cool. 00:27:41
OK. All right. 00:27:45
Thank you. Please take advantage of it. 00:27:47
All right, we will. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much. 00:27:49
Mountain. 00:27:57
Or it's not here? 00:28:00
Copper, Honda soil and water conservation industry. 00:28:05
Welcome. 00:28:10
Good morning, Commissioners. 00:28:13
Hey, this is Tony Griffin. I'm the. 00:28:14
District manager with upper Honda. 00:28:16
Soil Water Conservation District. 00:28:19
So a few things that we have going on with you guys, I think we have. 00:28:22
A grant that we have. 00:28:26
Our contractor has started spraying the fire stations in the area in the county and as well as the Senior Center in Hondo. 00:28:29
And still we still have a remaining balance. 00:28:37
He's going to be working on that once firming start to emerge, so that should be complete by the end of June. 00:28:39
We are selling quite a bit of. 00:28:47
Graphs that we have. 00:28:49
In stock and the grass that we have in stock is a full season grass. 00:28:51
We're selling it at cost. 00:28:55
It's $5 a pound and seems to be growing really well in our area so that people from the burn scars and whatnot are coming and 00:28:56
getting that and planning it. 00:29:00
We have Waddle. 00:29:07
Killing stock if we do have some rains coming in and people have erosion problems. 00:29:09
We still have some of those free to the public. 00:29:14
We are working on 2 Louise. 00:29:16
Boy grants with the. 00:29:19
Of the Mexico forestry. 00:29:21
And there's so many remaining. 00:29:23
And one of those I believe they have. 00:29:25
The no Gowling, there's one project left and not that they're working on now, but. 00:29:28
That is still available. That's a 50% cost share though, so, but. 00:29:33
A lot of the bigger projects will go through them. 00:29:37
And of course, we've been really busy with our own cost shares. 00:29:40
We do rainwater harvests. 00:29:43
We do thinning, we help people with with livestock wells and things of that nature. So we've been extremely busy with a lot of 00:29:47
that. So seeing a lot of people and working a lot of that so. 00:29:52
Does anybody have any questions? 00:29:59
Kind of new at this though, so Aaron and his team. 00:30:02
On behalf of the county is trying is putting together. 00:30:08
I'll call it a firewise program. It's more than that. 00:30:12
Have have you been talking about that? 00:30:15
Yes. And we actually, I believe we're going to go visit a lady in Hondo area. 00:30:18
Concerning that. 00:30:24
To do a cost share program with her presenting invasives. 00:30:26
OK, see, it's even more than that, but obviously we need to do more. 00:30:31
So I don't have any more questions. 00:30:35
Could you please put where they need to come and apply and everything? 00:30:38
Yes, so they can apply on our website. 00:30:43
We do have the forms available there. 00:30:46
They can always stop by the office or at the top of Main and Capitan. 00:30:48
Or they can. We will be happy to mail them one a lot of people would rather have. 00:30:52
Truck copies in the mail so they can come to the office one time. 00:30:57
And the way our cost share program works is? 00:31:01
If we pay up to 10,000 dollars, 75% of the project. 00:31:05
So. 00:31:09
Pretty good program. 00:31:11
OK, so it seems to be a poison problem, you know, getting communication out. 00:31:15
Yeah. And so on. So there might be an opportunity to take advantage of the sign as well. So you heard about that earlier, you 00:31:19
know. 00:31:24
Point of contact health and thinning. 00:31:29
No contact 1:00 AM I finally doing a little more community involvement as well? 00:31:31
We're going to be at the Smokey Bear days. 00:31:36
We'll be actually discounting. 00:31:39
Bags of grass. 00:31:41
And selling it there, it will be a dollar. 00:31:42
For 5 lbs of. 00:31:44
We'll have a limit, of course, because we can't hold it all down there, but. 00:31:46
Just to kind of get the word out there. 00:31:49
Well, I don't know if you guys know about the water trailer that we do with the kids, but we'll set that up there and. 00:31:52
And kind of get somewhere else that time. 00:31:57
Yeah. 00:31:59
Thank you. 00:32:03
Hey Cortana, look forward to seeing you next month. 00:32:04
Landrac. 00:32:09
How are you? I'm good, thank you. How are you? 00:32:12
Glad you're here. 00:32:17
Good morning, Chair Fisher and Commissioners Kathy Allison with. 00:32:18
Chair Shepherd said that Senate Bill 5 means that the Senate so quickly. 00:32:24
There really wasn't much opportunity for comment. 00:32:29
He's waiting to see what the cattle growers response will be. 00:32:32
And then we'll couple our response with that. 00:32:36
For those of us not following the numbers so closely, what is that? 00:32:40
Senate Bill 5, Yes. 00:32:44
That was the bill that they passed to. 00:32:46
Change. 00:32:50
They changed the name of the gang Commission. 00:32:54
And they broadened. 00:32:58
Their oversight? 00:33:00
To not just game animals, but. 00:33:02
All animals in general, and you know, which even we're talking about, you know, they could even put the wild horses in there if 00:33:05
they wanted to. So you know. 00:33:09
Overreach of incredible. 00:33:13
Proportions, yes. So we don't know what's going to happen. It's all. 00:33:16
And the reason why this is an issue is because. 00:33:20
If you read the bill. 00:33:24
It doesn't say. What do you do with it? 00:33:26
Basically allows the Game and Fish department the New Mexico Game and Fish. 00:33:28
To designate and have control of virtually any species. 00:33:34
For animal. 00:33:41
Out there and then. 00:33:43
Regulated. 00:33:44
So think of coyotes. Think of. 00:33:46
Gophers. 00:33:50
You know they're dogs. 00:33:52
Wanted to pass today the grazing oil just any anything that goes on on those lands depending on how they were designate things. 00:33:54
Precisely. 00:34:03
So it's it's really bad. 00:34:04
It's really bad. 00:34:06
May have some. 00:34:07
Bad implications and I know very close to this subject. Do you have any comments, Sir? 00:34:09
Nothing at this time. Thank you. 00:34:15
We're going to work on the letter resolution. He's just waiting to see what the cattle grows do. And yeah. 00:34:18
We'd like to. 00:34:24
Be engaged in that, I think as a Commission as well. So let us know what your positions are. 00:34:25
To the Commission and see if the Commission will support something as well. 00:34:31
Sounds good. Appreciate that. 00:34:36
We also have a draft resolution regarding the access to the White Mountain loderiness. 00:34:38
And other state and federal lands for fire mitigation. 00:34:43
And we'll share that with you and we can work. 00:34:47
Together on that, you know, we did some really. 00:34:50
Good wording on that. We just need to work. 00:34:52
Work through as a committee that. 00:34:55
Fine tune it before we get it to you, but. 00:34:57
Well, not part of our discussion is. 00:35:00
If we want to do a broad reach. 00:35:03
Requesting more access. 00:35:06
To all federal lands for if we want to make it more specific. 00:35:08
To the county and create a template that other. 00:35:13
Counties and communities could utilize also that. 00:35:16
You know they could in my opinion if you do a really broad reaching. 00:35:19
Something it just makes it more complicated if it's specific to our area and we. 00:35:24
With them our statistics. 00:35:28
It's a good stepping stone and obviously, you know, if you change something for one. 00:35:30
Then you can look at changing it for everybody. 00:35:35
Sounds like a good approach. 00:35:38
Working on it. 00:35:40
Anything else? 00:35:42
We're delving back in the Belanges plan and. 00:35:44
I've started. We've started as. 00:35:48
And outlined for drought planning. 00:35:50
And you know, we're looking at right now, we're in the driest month and the driest year over. 00:35:53
Past 131 years. 00:36:00
So I think we're all very aware of. 00:36:02
The challenges ahead of us so. 00:36:05
I'm going to coordinate with the interview. I was traveling so I did not get with. 00:36:08
Gentleman interview on a water budget. 00:36:13
But I'm going to go over there and talk to them and see the OSCE has some great. 00:36:16
Drought plants and everything that Lincoln County doesn't have one specific. 00:36:21
Sorry, area SO. 00:36:25
We're endeavoring in that. So, so are you, are you aware of what's going on on the two Elrosa Basin? 00:36:27
Water Study. 00:36:34
You know, I was involved. 00:36:37
Years ago and a lot of the planning and there's one ongoing right there I am not. 00:36:39
OK, I'll get with you later. 00:36:44
What we're also trying to do for uproar. 00:36:46
Upper Hondo. 00:36:48
Water basin as well. 00:36:50
And Doctor Sam Fernald. 00:36:52
From Mecca State. 00:36:55
Is very interested in starting. 00:36:57
A study on water budget water budget being. 00:36:59
Taking as much out. 00:37:02
What's coming in? How's it regenerate? 00:37:04
So those are those are important for our planning in the future. 00:37:07
One comment I would say. 00:37:11
If we're in the worst drought. 00:37:13
And 131 years as recorded. 00:37:15
What does that mean? That we're probably going to get better? 00:37:18
At what point? At what point is bad bad and you end up. 00:37:22
Coming out of itself. 00:37:26
Just the food for thought for those of that. 00:37:28
Or Debbie Downers. 00:37:30
Contributes of anxiety for sure. I was actually. 00:37:31
Involved in the New Mexico tech in the Aquifer mapping project. 00:37:36
That went through Lincoln County, all the way out to Cloudcroft and then out to Katherine County. 00:37:41
And was in Ruidoso when we did. 00:37:46
Was very involved with that. Also Sandia has a small business program. 00:37:50
And many years ago. 00:37:54
There's a water model for me though, so. 00:37:56
And so that is on our list for the drought planning. 00:37:58
To look at, you know, potentially going back to San Diego and doing some modeling for the county. 00:38:02
So I will get with Sam. I think you know, we have. 00:38:07
That's the strong background of that. And I just came back. I drove back from North Carolina, so. 00:38:10
We're still trying to play catch up. 00:38:16
Well, that's, that's good. No, that's, that's very good. So, so just again. 00:38:19
The county has been very active. 00:38:23
Trying to propel. 00:38:26
Efforts to thin out. 00:38:28
The Forest. 00:38:29
Both state and federal. 00:38:31
And then and that goes hand in glove with some of our fire. 00:38:33
Remediation efforts. 00:38:37
Wildfire remediation so. 00:38:39
And I don't try them in order. 00:38:42
Right, No fires, no burns. Fires, less flooding. 00:38:43
Better percolation on fuel and straws. 00:38:46
More water going in the ground so it all works together. 00:38:50
Just keep that in mind. Thank you. Yeah, we've already worked a lot of it in there. I think it'd be really pleased with what we've 00:38:53
done. It just wasn't polished enough to. 00:38:57
Bring it to y'all, to the Hickson. 00:39:01
Thank you. Any other questions? Thank you. 00:39:03
Sarnand, thank you, ma'am, very much appreciate you being here. 00:39:06
Yes, thank you. 00:39:10
I'm going to move around a little bit. 00:39:15
Warden Castleton was unable to make it at a personal. 00:39:17
Tragedy in his family. 00:39:22
And I don't see. 00:39:24
Yeah, I do. 00:39:25
Wonderful. 00:39:27
The 20 ladies are going to report. 00:39:29
Thank you, ma'am. 00:39:31
Please take your name on the podium and. 00:39:32
Update please. 00:39:36
Chairman, Commissioners, good morning. My name is Aisha Smith and I am the Chief of Security Advisor and Detention Center. 00:39:41
I am signing in for wooden Castleton and Bethany Wardens Hope. 00:39:49
The report on the detention center. 00:39:53
So as of. 00:39:56
April 1st. 00:39:58
Up until today, we have. 00:40:00
29 agents. 00:40:01
What 49 releases? 00:40:03
Our signing count today is 60. 00:40:05
With 47 females 13. 00:40:08
47 medals, 13 females and we have 14 VI 8. 00:40:11
We are currently high enough for two food service officers. 00:40:16
Two correctional officers, 1 Lieutenant and two rights. 00:40:20
Individuals. 00:40:24
Right now we are currently paying the facilities we have started on it and we are more than halfway completed. We are looking at 00:40:27
completing all of the painting by the start of next week. 00:40:33
Her eyes have made connections with Eastern New Mexico University and years also. 00:40:40
With three DP starting the reentry programming. 00:40:47
And soon they will start their GED classes. 00:40:50
And that's about all I have to report. Thank you. 00:40:54
I do have a question. I thought the Mescalero tribe was. 00:40:57
Opening up there. 00:41:02
Detention facility. 00:41:03
And they are. So the last that we heard is that they were looking for funding and they are hiring. So they're given a start date 00:41:05
of. 00:41:08
Around September for opening up. 00:41:12
To housing. 00:41:15
So we might lose. 00:41:17
You know that. 00:41:19
Yeah, that population sometime in the fall. 00:41:20
Any questions, Commission. 00:41:25
Thank you very much ma'am, doing a good job. Appreciate you coming next time. 00:41:27
Thank you. 00:41:33
Appreciate you. 00:41:35
Let's go to 14 because I'm trying to. 00:41:37
Take advantage of the time now so that we. 00:41:40
So. 00:41:46
Mr. You. 00:41:48
Welcome. 00:41:49
Thank you, Chairman Fisher County Commissioners, Todd Overview Hospital Chief Executive, Lincoln County Medical Center. Just quick 00:41:51
rundown of things. 00:41:54
We did at our MASH camp after I met with you. We brought in Capitan, so it was very exciting. I think we had 16 kids from Captain 00:41:58
that attended the event. 00:42:03
We have Ruidoso coming up here in a week. 00:42:08
And so I'm very excited about MASH camp and hopefully we'll have some. 00:42:12
Great future health care workers out of that so. 00:42:15
Please say that Lindsey Patton has completed the boards and she'll be starting Catan here probably within about a month month and 00:42:20
1/2. So they'll have Suzanne and Lindsey will be have cancelled would be. 00:42:25
We've had an opens there. 00:42:30
With Suzanne, but Lindsey will be taking that full time spot so excited about that. Lindsey though is a Lincoln County native. She 00:42:33
grew up here her dad for those you all been around as Dave Nolteyer who was a long time C RNA at the hospital. 00:42:40
So anyway, so glad to have her on board. 00:42:47
From that standpoint. 00:42:50
Joe Bird, who we had hired for Corona, we've expanded her duty. She's going to start working also with Doctor Sunderman at the 00:42:51
hospital and help supplement the cardiology practice at the hospital. 00:42:57
And she'll also be working a little bit in the emergency room too. So roadside about having Joe on, I think she's just going to be 00:43:04
a great addition for us. 00:43:08
CT is going well. Finally we got our breaker box out of Mexico. I don't know if that was the. 00:43:13
The tariffs or what the issue was? 00:43:19
I only got a breaker box, so we're going to give them the CT wired in now, so we should have that. 00:43:22
Sooner than later, let's say so at that point. 00:43:27
And women we the construction of the woman's clinic is progressing. 00:43:30
Now we're able to focus mostly energies on the women's clinic, so we'll have that I think within. 00:43:34
Sooner or later too, so. 00:43:39
Real excited this last week. Presbyterian holds a leadership event that they bring in all the board members from each one of the 00:43:42
entities is within the press system. 00:43:46
And does a kind of educational program for them. 00:43:52
During that event, LCMC was awarded a first time award that's been created by Presbyterian called the Mrs. Van Award. And not to 00:43:55
go on too much history, but Mrs. Van was kind of the. 00:44:01
Core Presbyterian from the very beginning. 00:44:06
She joined Presbyterian. Her actually brought her husband out here because of tuberculosis, which is how Presbyterians started out 00:44:10
here. 00:44:13
And when her husband passed away, she stayed on and kind of became. 00:44:17
Or Presbyterian. Presbyterian this award this year. 00:44:21
The Mrs. Van Award and LCMC was the first recipient for it and the reason for that was really the efforts and work of the staff 00:44:26
during the fire. 00:44:29
And the floods and I think we talked about so many of my staff lost their homes and different things during that. They were still 00:44:34
work. 00:44:37
I mean, just just amazing and so. 00:44:41
Press recognize that and awarded the the the staff at LCMC this award. 00:44:43
And last thing, just tell you, we just finished our employee engagement survey. We switched back the press gaming we've been 00:44:48
using. We used to use press gaming, We switched to our testing, we called that press game, which I personally like. I think it's 00:44:52
better metric. 00:44:56
And our initial back investigation, the 74 percentile nationwide of of healthcare facilities as far as employee engagement and 00:45:00
satisfaction. 00:45:05
So very pleased about that. So and and think things are going well. 00:45:10
So I will stand for any questions have for me and and working on the mill levy budget. So we'll have that briefly much longer so 00:45:14
too. 00:45:18
That's about it. 00:45:22
Yeah, 22 notes. 00:45:24
$650,000. 00:45:26
For basically an ambulance. 00:45:28
Building. 00:45:31
Cares though. 00:45:33
So obviously we have to start working on that and make sure. 00:45:34
When we can get that money, we actually put it good use. 00:45:37
The other piece is we. 00:45:41
You kind of have a question mark about the current location. I know we promised you that we had a deal. 00:45:43
That promise was predicated on. 00:45:48
The other person. 00:45:50
The owner. 00:45:52
Honoring that promise, right? So right now it's a little bit up in the air, but we're working that. 00:45:53
And we'll get back to you and. 00:45:58
Try to make sure that that's solidified. 00:46:01
OK, German fisheries, they won't do to help with that. Just let us know, we'd be happy to. 00:46:04
To help you in women can so we appreciate that we're going to ask for help. 00:46:08
Thank you, Sir. 00:46:16
Any questions? 00:46:17
OK, Sir, thank you all for your relief. 00:46:20
Appreciate it. 00:46:24
I'm not sure where I want to go right now. 00:46:37
There's no lobbyist update. 00:46:40
They're in a quiet period right now. 00:46:42
They think they're adopted over with. It isn't the campaign of. 00:46:45
But. 00:46:49
I think what we could do is. 00:47:08
Is is talk about? 00:47:10
Senior Center, ICP. 00:47:15
And then we've got 15 minutes for that. Is that enough time you think? 00:47:17
OK. Can we can talk about that now? 00:47:20
Thank you, ma'am. Good morning, Commissioner. Chairman Fisher. 00:47:25
Program Director. 00:47:29
What I've given you on. 00:47:33
A plan for the ICIP Our. 00:47:36
Date to submit is coming up in May. 00:47:40
But we won't meet. 00:47:43
You won't meet. 00:47:44
Until, but before then again before this. So what it is, it's every year we do a. 00:47:46
Planned with life just like you do, but this is just focused on senior citizen centers. 00:47:51
I do have. As you can see I have. 00:47:56
Kind of giving you a basic plan for captain character and register downs. 00:47:58
Equipment, things that are capital outlay will be requesting. 00:48:04
For those things this year we did submit application for kitchen equipment capital can. 00:48:09
A lot of times what we do is we look at what we. 00:48:15
Think is the. 00:48:17
That's the most important. 00:48:18
To put forth to the state. 00:48:20
And so that would be the one this year. 00:48:22
Look like it was going to be. 00:48:24
The the most important, we do have the backup generators listed on. 00:48:26
I know you all had talked about doing the backup generators yourselves, and that's fine. 00:48:29
I do have them listed online and had them on there for several years already. 00:48:33
But. 00:48:37
They're not when it comes time to do capital outlay. 00:48:38
They're usually one of the ones that kind of gets pushed back to the back, but. 00:48:41
We would be very happy for you all to put them on yours. 00:48:45
If that one would work for you, but I do still have them online. 00:48:48
And it just looks better when I have them on mine. If you're going out for them also. 00:48:52
And it looks like we're coordinating. I think that's perfect and we know why we need those things that. 00:48:56
The emergency, those right back centers, you have food. 00:49:02
What is the meaning of heating and so forth? 00:49:06
And so most everything else is either kitchen equipment, facility improvements, and facility improvements would include anything. 00:49:09
You know when I go into more detail into the application form. 00:49:15
And talks about what we need like. 00:49:19
Whether we are needing some structural. 00:49:21
Like if there's roofs or you know, anything like that that needs to be addressed at that particular center. 00:49:23
Building improvements also would be like. 00:49:29
If you have some renovations like a. 00:49:31
In Reno's Downs, right at this moment, we would love to get in there and do a little renovation in the kitchen. 00:49:33
Area to kind of make a half wall behind some of their equipment. 00:49:38
That kind is in the middle of the room. 00:49:42
So it just adds a safety feature. 00:49:44
There's a few other things that we would like to do. The Fire Marshall has really been. 00:49:46
You know, going through all the buildings and looking at stuff and there are a few of our. 00:49:50
Fire systems that need to be updated, he has given us. 00:49:53
Some opportunities to. 00:49:57
Look at do updating them now. 00:49:59
And so we've been working with Yucca Fire. 00:50:01
To see about what we're going to need. I know Cap can. 00:50:03
I need staff and work done on theirs. 00:50:06
And uh. 00:50:08
Corona, he's gone to Corona also, and Corona is a little more extensive because it's an older system. 00:50:10
And I don't need some more work done on it also. 00:50:15
Also, as you can look further down, we do have. 00:50:18
I took most of the spots that are blank right there. 00:50:21
Or because we move things up. 00:50:24
We were asking for vehicles. 00:50:25
Transportation and mail delivery vehicles which have been funded. 00:50:27
And we've already received most of them. So that kind of leaves a gap. 00:50:30
And some of the other places will move things up. 00:50:34
We do live still have a transportation vehicle that will be needing at Capitan later on. 00:50:37
And a meal delivery vehicle later on. 00:50:42
Or reducing downs because the big hotshot truck they have there right now is. 00:50:44
We bought it in 2017. 00:50:50
So in a stadium, a lot of miles on heaven. 00:50:52
A large delivery area. 00:50:56
So that one will have to be replaced, probably at least by 2030. 00:50:58
And that's giving it 13 years. 00:51:02
So at least it's on here. 00:51:04
So we have it ready. So anytime that it's on there and as we go from year to year, we can adjust where it's at and what priority 00:51:06
is. 00:51:10
If it becomes a. 00:51:14
Higher priority. 00:51:15
Then that we will print the adjustments. 00:51:16
But this is basically what we're looking for. 00:51:18
And I do need a resolution. 00:51:21
They make you support the plan. 00:51:23
And that I have the. 00:51:25
With permission to to submit. 00:51:27
Any questions? 00:51:33
So. So this is a different. 00:51:36
Process and what we go. 00:51:38
Through with the county is there is there a? 00:51:40
Chairman Fisher, this is a little. 00:51:44
A different as far as like. 00:51:46
We do ours. 00:51:48
We had in advancing what you do yours 2731 will also be yours coming up due. 00:51:48
But what we do is. 00:51:54
We've already put in for 26 already. 00:51:55
QR capital out to the states. 00:51:57
And they will review it. It goes through. It's real strict. 00:51:59
Evaluation process. 00:52:02
And then they will bring it through it, whatever it goes through their system, then they'll add it to their package and it'll go 00:52:04
to. 00:52:07
For next year. 00:52:10
So we start a lot earlier than you all do. 00:52:11
And ours is funded. Ours goes into the aging and long term services department. 00:52:14
Before it goes anywhere else, do you have any insight as to how? 00:52:18
Likely you are to get. 00:52:23
Steve Simmons. 00:52:25
Chairman Fisher of YES. 00:52:28
Usually if it is. 00:52:30
They score it on a certain thing, and most usually if it is. 00:52:33
Well thought out well. 00:52:37
Presented it will be funded. 00:52:38
You know, unless. 00:52:40
Vetoes them. Usually they go through. 00:52:43
Pretty, pretty good for the senior centers, Yeah, I'm looking forward to. 00:52:45
To a positive. 00:52:49
Decision on the generators this time. 00:52:51
There's something we can do to kind of push that. I appreciate you letting us know. 00:52:55
Phone calls, Letters. 00:52:59
Emails, whatever. 00:53:01
Keep that on on my radar. Yes Sir, I'm ready. 00:53:03
Thank you. Thank you very much. There's no questions. I will entertain a motion for the resolution. 00:53:06
Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve. 00:53:15
The resolution point 25-55 adopted 27 to 31. 00:53:17
I need a second. 00:53:25
Commissioner Travis. 00:53:35
Aye, Commissioner, Second. 00:53:38
Hi, Commissioner Fraser. 00:53:39
Aye. 00:53:43
Thank you. Imagine. Thank you very much. 00:53:45
What does? 00:53:50
All right, we're getting close, aren't we? 00:53:56
Right there. 00:54:03
Let's talk briefly with this. 00:54:06
About discussion. 00:54:09
Let's talk about. 00:54:11
Grant Writers. 00:54:15
Just want to get your feeling. 00:54:18
On this. 00:54:21
Who are Batista from the spas? 00:54:23
Have been trying to get up to. 00:54:25
Take advantage. 00:54:27
So Bundy has. 00:54:29
Available. 00:54:32
There's a lot of grants up here that we. 00:54:36
We don't take advantage of because we don't have. 00:54:39
We'll have a grant. 00:54:42
Right. Or we don't have someone to pursue those. 00:54:43
And then to follow up on it. 00:54:46
So. 00:54:53
We've got I sent out. 00:55:00
A resume from someone that. 00:55:02
In that position. 00:55:04
I don't know if you all had an opportunity to visit. 00:55:06
But. 00:55:10
My thoughts on that particular. 00:55:11
Person was that. 00:55:15
She was extraordinarily. 00:55:16
Qualified. 00:55:20
But I had some question about the amount of time she could devote. 00:55:21
To the effort. 00:55:25
So I I. 00:55:27
I think I'd like to. What I'd like to do is. 00:55:28
Is hold on at any decision on that particular process right now? 00:55:31
And reevaluate other candidates that might be available, but we should move. 00:55:36
Quickly. 00:55:41
Because we have to obligate that grant. 00:55:43
Before the end of May. 00:55:46
Which doesn't give us much time. 00:55:47
But otherwise that money will revert back to the state. 00:55:50
So. 00:55:54
I will make an effort next week to provide you some other alternatives that we could actually consider. 00:55:56
More seriousness, does that make sense? 00:56:01
Yes, I've got a couple of questions, Mr. Chairman. 00:56:05
So I did see the job description that you put in our packet. 00:56:07
Is this a full time position that we're looking at or a part composition? 00:56:11
Originally. 00:56:15
Based on. 00:56:17
Based on. 00:56:18
Our understanding of the grant and the amount. 00:56:20
Would be a part-time position. 00:56:22
My my desire is not to. 00:56:25
Hire another position you know in our. 00:56:29
And our county government for that. But. 00:56:32
That might be worth it. 00:56:35
Discussion A follow on discussion at some point. 00:56:36
But yeah, currently. 00:56:41
Hard times when you look at what? 00:56:43
What's in here? 00:56:45
One could imagine it being a full time position. Is that is that your? 00:56:46
Right, I just wanted to. 00:56:50
Differentiate. From my understanding, yeah, it would be. 00:56:51
To take advantage of the grant. 00:56:56
It would either be part time. 00:56:58
For a longer time. 00:57:00
Our full time for a shorter time. 00:57:03
But it's based on what their money is available. 00:57:06
Right. And so to follow up on that the grant. 00:57:08
And excuse me for another. 00:57:11
Don't forward but the depth point. 00:57:12
Fully there's a link, there's no. 00:57:15
No match, and in fact. 00:57:17
The cloud would actually. 00:57:20
Handle paying the the individual they they would take care of that. 00:57:23
With the wouldn't be a pass through, we wouldn't have. 00:57:26
Necessarily a fiscal responsibility with that person. 00:57:29
They essentially be working for the club on our behalf. 00:57:32
And it's and it's available for up to a year. 00:57:35
Is that it's available till. 00:57:37
It'll be obligated, but yeah, it would work free. 00:57:40
For as long as that money would last, but that money has to be obligated as I understand it. 00:57:44
Before. 00:57:49
For the end of May. 00:57:50
OK. So someone could imagine, Yeah, it would be a year. So maybe, maybe half time for a year. 00:57:52
You could think about that way. 00:57:58
Maybe there's an opportunity to combine other monies that. 00:58:01
That made sense. 00:58:04
I think. 00:58:06
You know, once we looked at what we're really looking for, this is, this is a grant writer. 00:58:07
But it's also a grant administrator. 00:58:12
It's also a project manager all wrapped up in one. 00:58:14
And that's more than what? 00:58:18
That money that's available. 00:58:20
Will support. 00:58:22
So I. 00:58:24
We we need to do more on that, but I did want to bring it up just to get your. 00:58:26
Intellectual juice is flowing a little bit, thinking about what might be available what? 00:58:30
The possibilities are. 00:58:34
And if at all all it was was just somebody part time for a while. 00:58:37
In fact, that's all we can do. 00:58:41
OK, so. 00:58:42
I guess we're at, we're at 9:30. I keep looking at that clock and I'm being. 00:58:44
Misguided every time. 00:58:49
So it is 9:30. We're open up for public discussion. 00:58:51
Go around with the commissioners and then the elected. 00:58:56
The Sheriff's Office. 00:58:59
Please. 00:59:05
Commissioner, sorry, do you have any anything? 00:59:06
Start us off with. 00:59:09
Yeah, sure. Good morning. It's been a busy 30 days. 00:59:11
I attended. 00:59:14
Last week, the SMED quarterly board meeting in RAW as well. 00:59:16
They had a huge announcement that CDBG grants would be. 00:59:21
Available this year. 00:59:25
And they're not going to be requiring a match. 00:59:27
And they? 00:59:30
Will not have a cap on the amount that we can request. Previously was 750,000. 00:59:32
And so this is. 00:59:37
Huge. So we need to start moving on that. 00:59:39
Get our public hearings. 00:59:42
Done. I know I have my. 00:59:44
Personal priority with. 00:59:46
Our failing bridges. 00:59:49
And we're compromised, I should say. 00:59:51
And so that money could be utilized for that, I think. 00:59:54
Would be very helpful. 00:59:58
In addition to that. 01:00:01
We were notified that we. 01:00:04
Have received the Southwest Region Economic Development Association Star of the Southwest award. 01:00:07
This group is. 01:00:15
Made-up of Arkansas, Louisiana. 01:00:16
New Mexico, Oklahoma and Texas. And so that was based on our EDA grant. 01:00:19
Or the fairgrounds and those improvements and. 01:00:25
It demonstrates how we're able to use it not only for economic development but in times of. 01:00:31
Emergencies for the evacuation Center for the animals. 01:00:37
And so on. May the 8th. 01:00:41
The county will be receiving that award at their quarterly. 01:00:43
Their annual conference. 01:00:48
We're going to send reps down. 01:00:50
To represent the county because it's a big deal, Yeah. So. 01:00:54
And we also attended the CDBG disaster. 01:00:59
Grant meeting and that's going to be. 01:01:04
Incredible for. 01:01:07
Those that were specifically impacted by last year's natural disasters. 01:01:09
They have set aside 100. 01:01:15
$1,000,000 I believe right for housing. 01:01:18
And that. 01:01:21
That's a huge opportunity because. 01:01:23
There isn't an income. You don't have to just lower to moderate income. 01:01:25
Individuals and so that opportunity is going to. 01:01:30
Be very impactful to those still trying to rebuild. 01:01:34
And there's no match there either. And so there's a lot of moving parts we. 01:01:40
Did move forward with an offer for a new HR manager and so. 01:01:44
We have an anticipation start date of April the 28th and so we're really looking forward to. 01:01:48
Adding to our small hard working team here at the courthouse and. 01:01:54
I think she'll be a huge asset for us. 01:01:58
And today is a big day for us. We are interviewing for county managers. 01:02:01
Manager position is so I know that. 01:02:07
Everyone looking forward to that. 01:02:10
How are you? Thank you. 01:02:13
Thank you very much. 01:02:15
What's your predator please? 01:02:18
I'll yield my time. 01:02:19
Mr. Travis, I'll do one more time. 01:02:22
As we like. Thank you, Chairman. 01:02:25
Thank you. 01:02:27
Madam Clerk, Anything? 01:02:28
Mr. Assessor. 01:02:32
Good morning, Chair Fischer, Commissioners Leroy, the morning Lincoln County Assessor. 01:02:34
So this is the busiest time of the year for our office. We just mailed out over 30,000 notices of value to. 01:02:38
Property owners here in the county. 01:02:44
I just want to stress the importance of that document that people get it paired up. They see this is not a tax bill. 01:02:46
Paragraph go in the trash, but. 01:02:53
There is a 30 day window from the mailing bank which expires on the 7th of May. 01:02:55
During that time, it's. 01:03:00
That's when they can protest the values. Piper exemptions change our address. 01:03:01
We can correct errors that we might have missed. 01:03:06
During that time. 01:03:09
I highly encourage taxpayers to call our office for having questions or inquiries about the notice of Value. 01:03:11
Once this 30 day period expires, we can count. 01:03:18
Accept exemptions except for the disabled Veterans exemption. 01:03:20
And they also the only way they can protest their values during after that period is by filing the District Court. 01:03:24
They were talking about lawyer fees and. 01:03:30
I can't stress enough the importance of that document went to deadlines. 01:03:34
May the. 01:03:41
We have an opportunity to put a notice in the. 01:03:43
The trash bills. 01:03:47
Between now and then there's a 2 legs. 01:03:48
From a quarterly quarterly bill. 01:03:51
Do we know? 01:03:53
Can we check on? Can we check on that? I mean, it's something we probably should have done earlier if we're missing it. 01:03:56
But if we're not missing it, I would. 01:04:02
Highly recommended as one good way to get out and then on the other side of point. 01:04:03
Perhaps was an opportunity to put it in the paper too. 01:04:09
Just maybe a few will get it that wouldn't otherwise. 01:04:14
Because I think, I think you're right that that's key and we owe that to the citizens to let them know. 01:04:18
That this is the time to to. 01:04:24
Go back and. 01:04:27
See if you can't change things right. 01:04:29
So appreciate you bringing that up. 01:04:31
Nothing. 01:04:38
Everybody's quiet today. 01:04:39
So. 01:04:41
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, I enjoy the under Sheriff's County. 01:04:45
They're pretty busy, 30 days at the patrol side of the house. We had 18 accidents. 01:04:49
49 red. 01:04:56
We're going to one call for service. 01:04:58
18 citations. 01:05:00
154 incidents that require the case number. 01:05:02
25 warrants. 01:05:05
And 46. 01:05:07
Give us which is the inspection for public represent. 01:05:08
Request. 01:05:12
Drug Task Force The last 30 days I made 7 felony drug cases. 01:05:13
Of no one case result in the seizure of over 300 fentanyl pills. 01:05:17
Methamphetamine coating black tar heroin. 01:05:21
Methadone. Hydrocodone. 01:05:24
Suboxone. 01:05:26
Tourists. Both were felons of possession of the farmers. 01:05:27
So I'm really very. 01:05:32
Yeah, where was that? 01:05:33
Location. 01:05:35
Three days to check in. Happy hand. 01:05:37
Work. 01:05:44
That weren't anything else. 01:05:45
OK, OK. 01:05:48
The only thing I want to point out is we're really excited about the opportunity to hire. 01:05:49
Someone that that we need for county managers. It's a full time job. It's a big deal. 01:05:55
And. 01:06:01
And that's, that's a watershed moment for us, hopefully. 01:06:03
We'll be able to do that. 01:06:07
The the other thing that I I find. 01:06:08
As I get more visibility in the actions and then workings. 01:06:12
Of the county and fiscal responsibilities is the. 01:06:16
The grant idea in managing projects. 01:06:21
We're trying to do that sort of helter skelter, but. 01:06:24
We're trying to improve those processes. 01:06:28
For the citizens of the county. 01:06:31
One other thing I want is kind of. 01:06:33
Almost an editorial. What's the? 01:06:36
It's a comment, really. 01:06:38
Someone came came up to. 01:06:40
To us. 01:06:43
And made a comment. 01:06:44
It's a shame. 01:06:46
That. 01:06:48
That the politicians are involved in the budget process. 01:06:49
Let me repeat that. 01:06:57
It's a shame. 01:06:59
That you have politicians involved in the. 01:07:01
You know this. I don't know about Washington, DC. Washington, DC is a different animal, but I will tell you. 01:07:08
And I told this person. 01:07:13
That it that is the process we represent the people. 01:07:17
Imperfectly, perhaps. 01:07:21
But we try. 01:07:25
And so I know that. 01:07:27
That from my standpoint, and I think I can speak for the other commissioners, we represent our district, but we also look at the 01:07:29
broader community. 01:07:33
Because say District 5, which is mine. 01:07:39
That if District 5 got everything we think. 01:07:42
Would help out District 5. It might be at the expense of the rest of the county. 01:07:45
In some way. 01:07:50
Shape or form? 01:07:51
It is fundamental. 01:07:54
It's profoundly unique in the world. 01:07:56
That we have a system. 01:07:59
That has people like us who are accountable. 01:08:01
To the citizens, to you. 01:08:05
Quite frankly. 01:08:07
To make these decisions, however imperfect they are. 01:08:08
It's not a perfect world and they're compromises and. 01:08:12
Perspectives that we try to put together. 01:08:15
So it really bothered me that we had someone. 01:08:18
In the community who thought that? 01:08:21
People who may not be directly accountable to the people. 01:08:26
Would make decisions. 01:08:30
Ostensibly on their behalf, without any accountability. 01:08:33
So I just wanted to mention to you. 01:08:37
That little anecdote. 01:08:39
As we move into. 01:08:42
This budget process that we are. 01:08:43
We. We literally. 01:08:46
Sweat bullets trying to see. 01:08:48
You know, how do we? 01:08:52
Take care of the three requirements, which is really. 01:08:53
Really constantly revolves around public safety. Almost all of them. 01:08:57
You know, it's law enforcement, it's fire and. 01:09:01
EMS and its roads and bridges. 01:09:04
If we could do a perfect job with that, we'd probably be doing our job. 01:09:07
The rest of it? 01:09:11
All the thing you see here. 01:09:13
Is really designed to do that. 01:09:15
We'd like to do more with the schools. 01:09:17
We have. 01:09:20
0. 01:09:21
Zero ability to do that. 01:09:22
I regret that. 01:09:25
We can't hold them accountable, they don't work for us. 01:09:27
We collect. 01:09:30
Taxes. 01:09:31
We pass through. 01:09:32
To the schools, but we have 0. 01:09:34
Impact. 01:09:38
On either what they teach and what they do or don't do. 01:09:39
Whether our kids are graduating or not. 01:09:42
Programs and so forth. 01:09:45
So. 01:09:47
It's a, it's it it. It weighs on me. 01:09:50
Very heavily. 01:09:52
Our responsibility on that. So I'd like to open up the floor to any public comment. 01:09:54
Come up to the podium, state your name, and you'll have. 01:09:59
3 minutes. 01:10:01
To tell us how you feel. 01:10:03
Good morning, Commissioners. 01:10:14
Chairman Fisher. 01:10:21
I am Galen Barrington, a resident of Legacy Estates. 01:10:23
Alto, NM. 01:10:26
Four years ago, March. 01:10:29
2021 Roper Construction purchased approximately 6 acres of land burdened by deed restrictions. 01:10:31
Which he attempted to have nullified. 01:10:39
By first contacting his realtor. 01:10:41
And then 2 Lincoln County clerks. 01:10:44
All of whom? 01:10:47
Refused to become part of the scheme. 01:10:48
Brian Roper then told his neighbors he was to use the property for storage. 01:10:51
Which proved not to be true. 01:10:57
The New Mexico Environment Department application for an Alto concrete batch plant contains a large number of misleading 01:10:59
responses. 01:11:03
There's several inquiries. 01:11:08
One of the sensitive populations affected. 01:11:10
No. 01:11:13
As defined by numbness. The elderly. 01:11:15
Many of the residents in the defined sacrifice zone. 01:11:18
Is a sensitive population. 01:11:21
2 The model for environmental impact was extrapolated from the Holloman Air Force Facility. 01:11:24
Nothing applies. 01:11:32
3 Opposition likely. 01:11:33
No nearly 2000 residents voiced their opposition. 01:11:37
For a all government entities within the 10 mile radius listed. 01:11:44
No. 01:11:49
The Mescalero Apache Tribe was omitted. 01:11:50
For B nearest to a Class 1 wilderness area. 01:11:54
The three mile federal limit was ignored. 01:11:58
4C The project is to be built on the National Scenic Byway. 01:12:02
Which is prohibited by federal regulations. 01:12:07
Eventually, them had denied the permit. 01:12:11
Mr. Roper appealed to the Environmental Improvement Board. 01:12:14
Ignoring the opposition. 01:12:17
And IB. 01:12:19
Without a strike visitation. 01:12:21
Overturn amendment. 01:12:24
Litigation continues. 01:12:27
During the intervening 4 years. 01:12:30
It was revealed that the county commissioners at the onset of this project had the opportunity. 01:12:32
To prevent Mr. Roper from building in this primarily residential area. 01:12:39
As reported by the Sierra Club. 01:12:45
Quote The contractor has ignored crucially sensitive populations. 01:12:48
As misrepresented modeling procedures required in the permit request. 01:12:53
Has ignored the neighborhood opposition. 01:12:58
And has demonstrated a complete disregard for the environment with an assault on government regulations. 01:13:01
UN quote. 01:13:08
Next slide. 01:13:09
Please listen to the people. 01:13:11
Who you represent? 01:13:14
And find appropriate solutions. 01:13:15
The solution here was. 01:13:19
Unimaginably simple. 01:13:21
Built on his existing 140 acre. 01:13:23
Industrial Property. 01:13:27
5 miles. 01:13:29
On State Highway 48. 01:13:31
The life altering grief this project has caused your constituency. 01:13:34
It's unconscionable. 01:13:39
I stand for questions from this new Thank you, Mr. Farrington. Your time is up. 01:13:42
Appreciation. 01:13:46
No questions. 01:13:48
That question. 01:13:49
Anybody else? 01:13:55
Good morning. 01:14:08
I'm Ernest right now. 01:14:09
Problem of write out select words. 01:14:11
In 2004 I started working. 01:14:13
With the Arnold Electric. 01:14:17
And there there was under electrical contract, maintenance contract with County Lincoln. 01:14:19
I worked with him up until 2012. 01:14:24
Broken up my own business. 01:14:27
About the contract myself in 2012. 01:14:28
For electrical maintenance contractor from Lincoln County. 01:14:32
I held the contract until 2022. 01:14:35
When at which time I was not made aware that the contract was up for bid. 01:14:39
We were. 01:14:43
In a three-year kind of situation where it was just rolling over. 01:14:44
Didn't know it was time to bid. 01:14:48
So I lost the contract at that time. 01:14:50
I've worked since then. Other contractors have been able to be called to do work around the county. 01:14:55
And in 2023 I did the contract again, won the scoring but was denied. 01:15:01
The contract. 01:15:07
In 2024. 01:15:09
I was called to the jail to hook up a generator that my competition in 2023. 01:15:11
Was called to hook up and they said that they couldn't do it because of the fact that the generator would ruin everything inside 01:15:19
the jail. 01:15:23
I get it. It took me a half a day's time and I took care of it, got the standby generator taken care of. 01:15:26
In 2025. 01:15:32
I did the contract again just recently. 01:15:34
Last month. 01:15:36
I did the contract again, won the scoring. 01:15:37
I was denied the contract. 01:15:40
In 2024 I did work at the failed ground at fairgrounds. 01:15:43
And was asked to change out a panel. I changed out the panel. 01:15:48
Now I was asked by the lady that runs the fairground. I was asked to add more load to the panel that was existing. I was just 01:15:53
changing out a panel. 01:15:56
At that time. 01:16:01
They called the other electricians that I've been against in 2025 and in 2023. 01:16:02
And he opted to go ahead and put the load on that panel. 01:16:07
Very dangerous. 01:16:10
Should never have been done. 01:16:12
Last time I was out there. 01:16:14
The loads have been added. 01:16:15
I assisted. Since then I've assisted the on call engineer. 01:16:18
I've assisted the on call engineer on the RFP for the big generator for the whole facility. 01:16:22
The on call engineer has called me many times. 01:16:28
Asking about the operations and the way that this. 01:16:31
Building was. 01:16:34
Is handled as far as electrical. 01:16:35
And I've totally assisted with all that and it's for an RFP that I may not even get to did. 01:16:38
Very familiar with all the electrical operations in all of Lincoln County. I've worked in all the facilities. 01:16:44
I believe that a lot of people here do know who I am. 01:16:49
The Treasurer, they'll. 01:16:52
The Assessor. 01:16:53
The clerk, a lot of people who I am. 01:16:55
I understand that there's an on call engineer, there's an on call mechanical, there's an on call plumber. 01:16:58
But for some reason I get shot down to times in a row. 01:17:04
Two different years on my contract when I won the scoring for that. 01:17:07
I heard that somebody in the road department says that they need 2 electricians on call. 01:17:12
We don't have. 01:17:18
On call engineer we don't have on call. 01:17:19
OK Sir, I'm gonna have to truncate your presentation or past 3 minutes. 01:17:22
Right on. Thank you very much. Well, thanks for listening. 01:17:27
You did listen. Thank you, Mr. 01:17:34
Anybody else? 01:17:41
Thank Commissioners Bill Hall just. 01:17:47
Wanted to let you know, I don't know if you've heard it on the way over, but. 01:17:49
Lincoln County National Forest on Radio is now at level 2. 01:17:52
Which means the next step is closures. 01:17:57
So the weather doesn't change. Looking at radically different. 01:17:59
Summer for each school. 01:18:05
That's all. I just heard that one passenger. 01:18:06
Anybody on? 01:18:12
Yeah, there's no more puppets in it. 01:18:14
Karen, you've got a presentation, right? 01:18:20
Good morning, Chairman Fisher, Commissioners. So just to give you guys an update from the OAS office over the last month. 01:18:25
Volunteer Fire departments responded to 25 calls for service. 01:18:32
Including two structure fires, 5 brush fires, five false alarms. 01:18:36
5 motor vehicle accidents. 01:18:40
One carbon monoxide alarm, 2 public assist, 2 vehicle fires and three illegal burns. 01:18:42
Oh yes, had the chance to attend 2 HOA meetings. 01:18:50
As well as one fire prevention event that were all well attended. 01:18:54
We were able to talk a lot about the wildfire hardening program that we've been trying to get rolled out. 01:18:58
It seemed very well received. 01:19:04
So we're we're making some headway there. 01:19:06
We also. 01:19:09
Completed two site surveys of properties. Add owners request. 01:19:11
And we also just got our right entry form back. We're making a few minor corrections of that for the attorney and we'll be able to 01:19:14
start getting that rolled out and hopefully getting on to some more properties here very soon. 01:19:19
We also got a lead on the news. 01:19:26
It's called the NFL grant non federal land grant through New Mexico State forestry. This will help us with our idea of building a 01:19:28
barrier along the National Forest boundary. 01:19:33
This grant is designed more for larger properties, upwards of about 170 acres. However, we are being told that if we can get 01:19:39
multiple property owners to put in for this, we can lump them into one. 01:19:45
Big sections, so to speak. 01:19:52
And we can use this. This is a 100% grant. 01:19:54
There is no match, there is no cost share, none of that. They pay for it all. 01:19:58
We're also we got a new form from the Mexico State Forestry that shows all of their grants. 01:20:02
If you guys want a copy of that. 01:20:08
I brought extra copies if you guys want to see that. 01:20:10
And we'll be getting with. 01:20:13
Upper Hondo to see if we can't get something similar to that from them as well so that we can get that out to all the property 01:20:16
owners also. 01:20:19
Something else that you guys might be interested in and is we just completed the final inspection on one of the new water systems. 01:20:24
At Glencoe Fire Station 1. 01:20:31
Had a few minor repairs to take care of. Those repairs have been taken care of and there's water in those tanks and we are up and 01:20:33
running. 01:20:36
So that is great news for that fire district. 01:20:40
40,000 gallons. 40,000 gallons. 01:20:43
We're also meeting with or we've already met with the muscular Apache Fire Rescue chief. 01:20:49
He's very interested in doing some more. 01:20:55
Unified response with the county getting us out to the reservation a little more, maybe them coming into the county a little more. 01:20:59
We're very open to this idea. It sounds like we're going to be able to work very well with that department and we're super excited 01:21:06
about our future working relationship with the department. 01:21:10
Coming up in the next month. 01:21:16
If anybody is interested and would like to see some of your volunteers in action, we're hosting an extrication training at Copper 01:21:19
Ridge. 01:21:23
May 3rd and 4th. 01:21:27
It's going to be very well attended. It's a very big deal. 01:21:29
And then we'll also be at Smokey Berry days, May 2nd through the 4th. 01:21:32
Handing out fire prevention materials, Wildfire hardening stuff. 01:21:37
So please. 01:21:41
Come out and join us and. 01:21:42
See what we're doing there? 01:21:43
For any questions, last weekend you guys went to the. 01:21:45
But yes, that was the fire prevention event that we attended. 01:21:50
We call it fire prevention, abandoned with an Easter egg hunt. We took our mobile command unit out because it's big, it's flashy, 01:21:54
it draws attention. 01:21:57
Got people to come and see us and we handed out a lot of fire prevention materials, including the the hardening stuff. 01:22:02
And that event was very well attended as well. 01:22:11
So. 01:22:16
We all be at the Easter egg hunt and Rita. 01:22:18
We were not informed about that one. When is that? 01:22:22
On Saturday morning. 01:22:25
I'll see if I can get a crew out there. 01:22:28
It's NFL. 01:22:32
Grant is is spectacular and I was aware of it. 01:22:34
That that's the one where you actually can go into a neighborhood. 01:22:40
And theoretically. 01:22:44
Harden that neighborhood at least, then from a tree. 01:22:46
Concentration and brush company. 01:22:49
Concentration piece. 01:22:51
Yes. And then on top of that if you. 01:22:52
You do that. 01:22:54
Where we're in a. 01:22:56
Designated disaster area from FEMA, we can have all that slash and. 01:22:57
Material taken out for free, right? If it's long, it gets to the roadway. 01:23:02
What are your plans? 01:23:06
To leverage that capability. 01:23:08
To leverage removal of slack. 01:23:12
No to take advantage of the NFL. 01:23:15
Which which allows you to thin. 01:23:18
Very large areas of full neighborhoods. 01:23:20
And then the the other piece, if you do that in an area where you can actually get. 01:23:22
That slash, that material, that that burnable stuff out of there for free. 01:23:28
It seems to me. 01:23:32
That you have a a circumstance that you can really make. 01:23:33
Big headway. 01:23:37
Yes, but contractors? 01:23:38
And for the people in particular. 01:23:41
Hard hit or risky? 01:23:44
Yeah, absolutely. And so how we're going to get this information out is. 01:23:46
Good old fashioned boots on the ground door to door. 01:23:51
Knocking on doors, talking to people, education. 01:23:55
We're going to be using the Volunteer Fire departments. 01:23:58
We'll be talking with them. 01:24:01
Getting this information out to them. 01:24:03
They can use this as fire prevention time for their departments. 01:24:05
It'll give them a chance to get out into their communities as well. 01:24:09
Talk with property owners and stuff. 01:24:12
And this is something that we really want to push as this NFL grant. 01:24:14
We can get multiple property owners or larger property owners to take advantage of this. 01:24:17
We think that we can make a lot of headway on. 01:24:23
Our wildland? Yeah, it might be. 01:24:27
It might be good to actually concentrate on a particular area like as discussed previously, yes, and we will be starting our focus 01:24:29
in. 01:24:34
In those three areas that we had pre designated which were the Nogal area, the outdoor area and the ride also Downs area. 01:24:38
OK, Yeah. 01:24:45
I'm really concerned about the area off of Paradise Canyon that Mary Jo and back in there. 01:24:47
That borders. 01:24:53
State lands. 01:24:55
So I don't know if this one would qualify for that because. 01:24:57
Federal lanes and that state lands. But I will ask that question. I will get a hold of New Mexico State forestry and see if 01:25:01
there's not something that they have that we can do something in there. 01:25:06
And try to prevent. 01:25:11
That. 01:25:13
Because it it is. That's a pretty scary area. 01:25:14
Any questions? Any further remarks? 01:25:20
Thank you. 01:25:23
You know, I think it's getting close to that. 01:25:27
Special timer. 01:25:33
Public hearing. 01:25:34
So is that important? 01:25:46
All for a public hearing. 01:25:49
Just make sure it's in the person extends through green clock. You're 3 minutes early. 01:25:54
So. 01:26:01
Give a description. Yeah, so we have. 01:26:02
Hearing at 10:00. 01:26:06
I guess I'm looking at the clock here. 01:26:07
Got 2 minutes. 01:26:10
And I for a special use permit. 01:26:11
In the unincorporated area of Lincoln County. 01:26:13
It's for Verizon. 01:26:17
And it's on 150 Snell Rd. here does the New Mexico and I think that are you going to present on that? 01:26:19
Chairman Fisher, Commissioners got analog planning department. 01:26:31
As I know there is a brand new Chinese cell tower if they're wanting to put up about 8 miles. 01:26:37
You still hear off the snow Rd. 01:26:43
It's right there before the 37 cutoff. 01:26:48
Going to provide more service. 01:26:52
So cell powers are very. 01:26:55
Complicated per SE. 01:26:57
So with us today, we have a Mr. Robert Nauman. He is our contractor. 01:26:59
That he. 01:27:04
Reviews all the. 01:27:05
All the specs, all the paperwork, and then he tells me. 01:27:08
To everything. 01:27:12
So, Mr. Dominic? 01:27:15
And, Mr. Chair, just to raise an issue we've had with the other public hearings. 01:27:22
I think the witness should be sworn. 01:27:29
And if the clerk doesn't think so, then I'm happy to do it. 01:27:31
And would you please wear, Sir, Would you state your name? Sure. My name is Robert Newman. 01:27:37
Tell the truth, I do Thank you. 01:27:41
Yes, my name is Robert Newman. I work for CMS, which is the consultant that has been under contract with Lincoln County to. 01:27:45
Administer all the wireless facilities within the county. 01:27:53
This is a proposed new tower to fill in a gap in service. 01:27:57
I'm looking at kind of where Scott. 01:28:02
The way we typically will do applications when it involves a new. 01:28:06
Facility. Do we try to get enough information? 01:28:11
In the middle so that you guys can make an informed decision as to whether or not this is a good location for that facility in 01:28:16
that size and that type. 01:28:20
I don't generally ask them to do a lot of. 01:28:27
Investigatory design in advance. 01:28:31
Such as the structural design. 01:28:35
Because if it doesn't get approved, it would change the type of divine. 01:28:37
And I'm trying to encourage them to be able to move forward without. 01:28:41
Spending money that may be unnecessary or may have to be redone. 01:28:45
So when we send him this. 01:28:49
Kind of a draft CS up. 01:28:52
We included some conditions of approval. 01:28:56
And those outlining some of the things that. 01:28:58
We recommend holding off on until they get. 01:29:01
Tentative approval of the tower itself and the location of the size. 01:29:05
Until and then once that is approved, it is conditionally approved that they would need to submit. 01:29:10
The structural analysis, final drawings and things of that respect for our review and approval prior to going forward with 01:29:15
construction. 01:29:18
But so we phase a little bit of the documents that are needed. 01:29:22
To try and take advantage and give the applicant some. 01:29:27
Great, as far as not spending money. 01:29:32
For they actually get the concept approved for the permit. 01:29:34
So in this case there was a number of items that are still. 01:29:39
Outstanding. And I will leave it up to David to kind of present his proposal as far as. 01:29:42
The gap in service and things of that respect. 01:29:48
But right now, some of the items that will still need to be done is again, the final site plan, the final construction drawings. 01:29:51
And what we will see is both for. 01:29:58
State power. 01:30:01
As well As for Verizon, we will see construction plans for both. 01:30:02
So it's kind of a joint application. 01:30:06
Because the tower owner cannot build a tower without having a carrier committed to going on it. 01:30:08
Otherwise it would be what we consider a spec tower and it may or may not end up getting used. 01:30:15
In this case, Verizon has committed to going on the tower and on the facility so that we will get enhanced service. 01:30:20
And there actually is a need for the tower. 01:30:27
If there was number carrier to go on there, there's really no need for the tower and hence we wouldn't be recommending approval. 01:30:30
A couple of things. Also the structural analysis is one that needs to be done yet. 01:30:38
And then? 01:30:41
The applicant has asked for relief on. 01:30:43
The structural analysis to provide documentation that is designed. 01:30:47
Support the requirement of four additional carriers. 01:30:51
So that it leaves room for expansion on that tower so that we don't have. 01:30:55
Another tower right across the street that would have to go on this tower. 01:30:59
If there is a future need for an additional carrier at that location or within that vicinity. 01:31:04
The tower lighting, maybe David will be able to say that they have had submitted to the FAA. 01:31:10
A verification that lighting will not be required at this location. 01:31:17
They designed the tower height at 199 feet. 01:31:22
Which stays just below the 200 foot. 01:31:26
Which is a limit for. 01:31:28
Typically requiring lighting to be required. 01:31:30
I haven't seen that. 01:31:33
Documentation that. 01:31:35
It is not required yet. 01:31:36
So if the applicant. 01:31:38
Has told us that. 01:31:39
Lighting is needed. 01:31:42
That may affect some things on how we would want to install the lighting to try and create some light Shields and things like 01:31:44
that. 01:31:47
So it doesn't affect the adjacent neighborhood. 01:31:50
And the neighbors who are living there. 01:31:53
Providing determinations fell out there. 01:31:56
Universal societies and a performance bond for removal of the tower. Both of those. 01:31:58
The signage will need to be included into the final plans. 01:32:04
And then the bottom will need to be provided. 01:32:07
Which guarantees that. 01:32:09
Should that company ever go bankrupt? 01:32:11
You will have a bond in place to remove that facility, but. 01:32:13
Coming up and an on sitely facility. 01:32:16
I guess I will open it up for any questions that you may have. 01:32:19
So if there's no questions, we would recommend those conditions of approval as part of your. 01:32:26
Approval. Uh. 01:32:32
And I could provide a copy of a letter if you need to, if Scott hasn't already done that. 01:32:33
But uh. 01:32:38
And turn it over to the board and. 01:32:39
See if they want to ask the applicant to work. 01:32:41
Thank you so much. 01:32:46
So I don't know who who can answer this so. 01:32:55
You're the applicant. 01:32:58
Yeah, come to the podium please and state your name and. 01:33:00
My name is David Luchenko. I'm sorry, David Klutchnik. 01:33:07
Do you sure tell the truth? I do. Thank you. Yeah. So I'm David Kushnick with Clinical Consulting representing Sun State Towers 01:33:10
and Verizon Wireless. So we are the applicant way of work is Verizon contracted us to build inspect the tower and then to Roberts 01:33:15
Point. 01:33:20
Verizon will be that anchor tenant on there as well. 01:33:25
OK, so. 01:33:29
So do we have any indication that maybe this is a better? 01:33:31
Question for Scott, but I don't know if it can be answered. 01:33:34
Do the the public around her realize that this is going on other than through our. 01:33:38
Yeah. So in the initial portion of. 01:33:43
Of course, this takes a couple years right from front from front to back right So when we. 01:33:46
Initially got the project. We reached out to multiple candidates in the area. 01:33:50
Multiple people expressed their interest of not only having it on their property, but meeting the service in the area off the 01:33:54
highway as well. So. 01:33:58
Very aware that it's happening over there, including the landlord itself. Michael Brands has been aware and knocked on doors at 01:34:01
the same time. 01:34:05
How about will there be an opportunity to put? 01:34:12
Some of our radios on there is that, yeah. So there's to Roberts Point, this is designed and built for so not only Verizon, but 01:34:16
three additional carriers as well. So I mean there's plenty of space not only with the the zoning drawings, but the construction 01:34:20
drawings that were submitted. 01:34:25
There is multiple spots for multiple antenna arrays on the on the facility as well. 01:34:30
Any other questions? 01:34:39
But I have one more, so yeah. 01:34:41
What would be? 01:34:44
Is there any? 01:34:46
Consideration given to the county. 01:34:48
For placement of radio repeaters, it hasn't been brought up to me, but of course you know us. 01:34:50
I'm Pinnacle Consulting, Sun State Towers. We own the facility itself. So I mean, it hasn't been brought enough to me, but nothing 01:34:56
that we were ever opposed to. 01:34:59
I'm kind of bringing it up now. 01:35:03
So I mean, we don't want to pay for it. 01:35:08
I'm sorry, what's that? We don't want to pay for it. OK, Yeah, I mean, we. 01:35:10
We would like to have the ability. 01:35:15
To put a repeater up there for. 01:35:18
Emergency communication system. 01:35:21
Throughout the county. 01:35:23
Add this to that stable of repeaters. 01:35:25
And as it's that public safety. 01:35:29
Oriented, uh. 01:35:32
And not commercial? 01:35:33
We would like to find. 01:35:35
A means of doing it. 01:35:36
Without any any requirement that the county pay. 01:35:39
You for it being fun there or Verizon? 01:35:42
OK. 01:35:45
Yeah. I mean, clearly, I can't personally make that decision, right. But I mean, my owner and CEO, I mean, we've done it plenty of 01:35:45
times in the past, especially in kind of rural portions where that highway is. 01:35:50
There's a massive gap in the service. There's about a 7 mile radius between. 01:35:55
You know the. 01:36:00
Closest facility until this one and then even further as you go down the highway as well. 01:36:00
It'll even cover most of that portion of the 380, as well as all the way down to that Volunteer Fire Department that's a little 01:36:05
bit South of there. 01:36:09
My expectation would be before you come back for an approval. 01:36:16
There has to be something binding in a contract with the county that says. 01:36:20
We'll have a position to do that. 01:36:24
To actually install, repeat. 01:36:26
OK. 01:36:28
Yeah, I mean, that's just say. 01:36:31
What's that? I want you to repeat what I just said. Yeah, Before we come back for approval, you will need something signed and in 01:36:33
writing that says that the county can put a repeater on on the facility for you, right. And so are we going to have independent? 01:36:39
The ability to have a generator on that site. 01:36:45
To power either. 01:36:48
Our our repeater system or. 01:36:50
Even even the cell? I mean, do you have? 01:36:53
Plans to have multiple. 01:36:56
Power sources because there have been times. 01:36:58
We've lost power, we've lost cell service, right? 01:37:00
I'm just asking about that. Yes, there is a backup generated and it's associated in the compound itself to your original question. 01:37:04
On the opportunity to add, it's a 40 by 40 lease space that's that's fenced in the compound. 01:37:11
Which is for the shelter itself, provides enough. 01:37:16
For those additional carriers or anybody else to go on it so. 01:37:20
There is plenty of space in there for an additional generator. 01:37:24
The meter will already be in place for the power directly to the antenna array or the repeater, so that would already be in place. 01:37:27
OK. Do we have any other comments from the public and it's a public hearing? 01:37:36
All right if there are no comments. 01:37:42
So questions, I appreciate you giving us that information. 01:37:44
And we look forward to seeing that. 01:37:48
That agreement in writing that says that we can. 01:37:50
OK. So that's the stipulation of of the approval, correct? 01:37:54
Yeah, OK. 01:37:57
I think I'm speaking. 01:37:59
For the Commission. 01:38:02
Thank you. 01:38:04
Is that true? 01:38:06
Mr. Chair. 01:38:09
I think what you really should be focused on when you're when you're making a land use approval is what the criteria that we're 01:38:11
we've set out in our zoning code for special use permits and other things. 01:38:17
And so those are the main things that you should be looking at when you're making a. 01:38:23
Decision on whether to grant something or not. 01:38:27
OK. I appreciate that. Thank you. 01:38:30
OK. So we'll close the public hearing that. 01:38:34
We have. 01:38:49
King Industries, do they hear you? 01:38:50
I think we ought to go to 15. 01:39:11
Monterrey County, I'd like the county lodgers tax. 01:39:13
Temper. 01:39:17
So the the ideas of obtained Morgan County commissioners random selection of four lodgers. 01:39:21
For the annual audit that we have to. 01:39:27
Somebody thank you, Carla. 01:39:30
So here's. 01:39:35
What we do for the public's. 01:39:35
Knowledge We we pick out four randomly. 01:39:40
People that are that are involved in providing lodgers tax to the county. 01:39:43
Can we do an audit with them so it's it's random? 01:39:47
And I'm not going to pick. 01:39:51
Then we'll conduct an audit. 01:39:58
Make sure that. 01:40:00
That we keep the integrity of the system. 01:40:02
Together, right, It's important for the county, so. 01:40:04
Two of these are going to get audited once an alternate. 01:40:08
So what numbers would you choose? 01:40:10
195. 01:40:50
And one. 01:40:54
The first center from the. 01:40:56
High category and the second is from the low category. 01:40:58
Just so you guys are hoping. 01:41:01
Thank you. As far as the amounts that we collected, Thank you. Do you have the the numbers? 01:41:02
Thank you. 01:41:08
OK. Thank you very much. Let's move on to consideration approval, modest tax rate. 01:41:13
Quest. 01:41:17
Kelly. 01:41:19
Chairman, Commissioners. Michelle Williams. 01:41:26
We discussed everything in workshop, I think comprehensive questions. 01:41:30
First has to read us a run test. 01:41:40
Run fast. 01:41:45
Any any questions on that particular? 01:41:49
Approval. Thanks. 01:41:51
Doso Tattoo Expo. 01:41:53
No questions. 01:42:03
Dozo Comic Con. 01:42:04
These were presented to us. These these programs or these requests were presented to us a week ago. 01:42:06
Some detail then. 01:42:12
We don't like going against the lodgers tech. 01:42:14
Or they actually go in detail. 01:42:17
And then make the recommendations for the approval. 01:42:19
So seeing no questions regarding that from the Commission's. 01:42:22
Thank you Shelly for coming. 01:42:26
Madam Treasurer, can you give us a? 01:42:29
The the latest on what we have in Logitech right now. 01:42:31
Please. 01:42:35
So as of March 31st to. 01:42:42
2025. 01:42:44
$959,049.60. 01:42:46
But that's not taking out any encumbrances. 01:42:50
Yeah, I think. 01:42:57
For quite much lower than that. 01:43:00
The yearly encumbrances are 263. 01:43:12
$1090.20. 01:43:14
About 700,000. 01:43:26
Thank you. 01:43:31
There are 16 planning. 01:43:34
Discussion action regarding vacation of Placidus. 01:43:36
They lengthen subdivision. 01:43:38
Yeah, I guess it's part of the approval, yeah. 01:43:46
I'll entertain a motion to. 01:43:49
Approved the larger tax requests. 01:43:51
Motion I'll make a motion to approve the. 01:43:57
Modules tax request. 01:44:01
So we go some fun. 01:44:03
Best or sorry, run best. 01:44:05
As an approved amount by the largest tax committee of $5000. 01:44:09
The Arctic Gosso cartoon Vesco. 01:44:16
And the Improvement Lodgers Tax Committee of $7500. 01:44:19
R2 Ghost. 01:44:25
Joseph. 01:44:27
Amount approved by the largest tax committee. 01:44:30
Commissioner. 01:44:36
You're welcome. 01:44:42
Thank you. 01:44:46
Let's go back to 16. Let's get that on the next page breaker. 01:44:48
The blastus capability. The kids. 01:44:52
The rear needs approved that one. 01:44:55
We shall we embed without erroneously that's up the agenda this month. So we're going to put it on next month agenda. 01:44:59
Yes, thank you. 01:45:09
Planning discussion action regarding vacation of. 01:45:10
Under plat. 01:45:14
Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Scott Analyt, Planning Department. 01:45:17
The only way this subdivision. 01:45:21
Exist is on paper. 01:45:24
It was filed. The plat was filed, I want to say back in 19. 01:45:26
63. 01:45:31
Since then. 01:45:34
Not a blade of grass or. 01:45:35
There are no roads, there are no utilities. There are. 01:45:38
There's nothing. It's just go ahead. 01:45:41
There's more major property owners that. 01:45:44
This is affecting. 01:45:47
Two of them, of which. 01:45:48
Their warranty deeds that are not mentioned. 01:45:50
The the subdivision. 01:45:53
On two of them they do. 01:45:56
Mention the subdivision. 01:45:59
And so they're concerned about maybe future sales down the. 01:46:00
Down the road. 01:46:04
About I can't buy, you know I don't. 01:46:06
I don't want to own the community. 01:46:09
That's being assessed as just. 01:46:11
Rand raw land. 01:46:13
So. 01:46:16
They wanted to formally. 01:46:17
Vacate that plat. 01:46:19
I we sent out notices. 01:46:22
I got. 01:46:26
In your in your packet you should have. 01:46:27
The flat of the subdivision. 01:46:32
And then the land the way it's configured now, and then the overlaying of the subdivision and the land. 01:46:34
So. 01:46:42
We notified everybody. I got permission. 01:46:44
From everybody. 01:46:47
So I would recommend that you. 01:46:49
They take this. 01:46:51
Prositus de Lincoln Black. 01:46:52
And there's, there's 4/4 owners. 01:46:55
Yes. 01:46:59
Mean, I think I see. 01:47:00
Agreement file 4IN here right? 01:47:02
Does our ordinance describe that this action needs to have a public hearing? 01:47:05
No, it doesn't say. Ordinance does not require that. 01:47:10
And entertain a motion that we. 01:47:25
Regarding this vacation. 01:47:27
The Placidus de Lincoln subdivision plant. 01:47:29
Approving it. 01:47:34
Is there anything in the Mexico City statute that would require it? 01:47:36
Mr. Chair, Commissioner Serna, I don't believe so. 01:47:41
It just takes Commission action, then we'll have to record a. 01:47:44
Revised Plat. 01:47:47
With appropriate signatures on it. 01:47:49
That's all you need to do. 01:47:53
Mr. Chairman. 01:47:55
In this testament, in this. 01:47:56
Information we have in our packet. 01:47:59
In there's a highlighted section that says Vacation class. 01:48:02
And under 8.3 point three in a deep period said with a 60 days after the date received. 01:48:06
Of the request for vacation, the board of county commissioners shall approve or deny the vacation subject to the following. 01:48:11
And a is action shall be taken at a public meeting. 01:48:17
And so. 01:48:22
I think that's what we're doing right now. I think this is another thing that. 01:48:23
Have the utilities been notified? 01:48:29
There are there are no utilities there. 01:48:33
So this this area right here is. 01:48:41
Make it raw land, not a blade of grass. Have been disturbed. 01:48:49
And and kind of grievance 1960 whatever they. 01:48:54
Flooded, right? 01:48:59
Regarding the vacation. 01:49:12
Subdivision Flat. 01:49:14
Second one second. 01:49:18
Is that for approval of? 01:49:21
Vacation. Yes. Approval. 01:49:23
Is. 01:49:25
Madam Clerk, protocol, please. 01:49:31
Commissioner Wilson. 01:49:33
Yes, Commissioner Prather. 01:49:34
Yes, Commissioner Charter. 01:49:35
Yes, Chair Fisher. 01:49:38
Aye. 01:49:39
The next part of this deal is discussion and consideration of application for. 01:49:42
Closure of 2883 square feet of Plain Ave. 01:49:46
No down in Mexico. 01:49:49
Chairman, Commissioner. Commissioner Scott. Animal Planning Department. 01:49:52
This is partial vacation. 01:49:57
It's not vacating. 01:50:00
Blaine Ave. is just a partial vacation of. 01:50:02
2883 square feet. 01:50:06
Just a little slice of heaven that that they they want. 01:50:09
This has been in the mean to make for a couple months now at least. 01:50:14
We did convene a road review back on March 26 or 28. 01:50:19
26 So with that, we have our. 01:50:24
Mr. James Rust. 01:50:29
In the road review committee if you'd like to. 01:50:31
Hello everyone. 01:50:42
Staffer questioning on. 01:50:43
Basically, we're just asking that based on the evidence presented and review of the statutory requirements. 01:50:45
Us as the road committee finds that slain Rd. no longer serves a public purpose and recommends vacating the public right away 01:50:50
designation, it's basically. 01:50:54
A piece of land where this guy's front yard fence is and it's it doesn't. 01:50:59
Even interfere with the way the road is. 01:51:03
The roads not used. 01:51:06
Anymore, except for these homes that are there so it just makes sense to help them out and go ahead and get. 01:51:08
And that and that portion just is under there. 01:51:15
Control correct? 01:51:17
Right. 01:51:19
But the other owners will still have access to their homes. Yes, for sure. 01:51:19
It just runs. It's like AI, don't know if you see it in the maps, but it's like a. 01:51:24
Yeah, it it starts at about where their fence is and down towards the Creek. It's a little wider, but it. 01:51:28
If you stand back up and look, you can see it's basically a straight line down from where it should be. 01:51:33
Is there any compensation required? 01:51:39
That's the attorney vacation. 01:51:43
I think I asked Scott who's it going to and. 01:51:48
Who's It's the new landowner? 01:51:51
The new property owner. 01:51:55
Yes, with us, we also have a Dennis Nagin. He is the current landowner. 01:51:56
The old landowner. 01:52:01
I think the switched hand. 01:52:03
Just close. Yeah, close the better. Enough to go from Archie with. 01:52:05
He was ready to give a compensation for this 280. 01:52:09
2883 square feet. 01:52:14
That the assessors put a value to it. 01:52:17
And he's ready to write the check today, probably. 01:52:20
OK. That was what I wanted to hear. That's one of the requirements. 01:52:23
Around a portion thereof. 01:52:28
Yes, Sir. 01:52:29
OK, so. 01:52:32
I think sounds like the requirements are met. 01:52:34
On this particular. 01:52:36
Matter. Let's entertain a motion to approve. 01:52:38
Vacation. 01:52:41
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that we. 01:52:47
For the application of closure of 200 and. 01:52:50
2883 square feet of Slain Ave. 01:52:53
2nd. 01:53:00
Discussion. 01:53:01
OK, so I I. 01:53:05
A discussion piece. 01:53:07
I'm I'm a little bit confused on the difference between. 01:53:09
What are we doing here? 01:53:14
Actually, Chairman Fisher were. 01:53:16
Closing the road, there is no. 01:53:21
Right feet anymore. 01:53:23
Vacating a Rd. 01:53:25
There is, there is a fee involved with that. That's therein lies Mike. 01:53:26
Problem with this this this motion. 01:53:31
With the person who started the emotion. 01:53:34
Care to amend it? 01:53:37
To a application for vacation. 01:53:38
Yes, Sir, I will amend my motion. 01:53:44
For the application to vacate. 01:53:48
2883 square feet of slain Rd. 01:53:50
Ave. Nogal, NM. 01:53:55
We have a second. 01:53:58
2nd. 01:54:00
OK, Madam Clerk will call please. 01:54:03
Commissioner Wilson. 01:54:07
Commissioner Sal. 01:54:08
Yes, Commissioner Chavez. 01:54:09
Yes, Chair Fisher. 01:54:15
Aye, Motion. 01:54:17
Thank you, guys. Thank you. 01:54:18
Thank you. 01:54:21
That. 01:54:23
OK, so let's I want to jump around just. 01:54:28
There I can get my paperwork done. 01:54:33
What I'm interested now in doing? 01:54:37
Is going over. 01:54:40
Really a very important subject. 01:54:42
Which is the presentation #23 right 23. 01:54:46
Presentation regarding South Fork salt. 01:54:50
Disaster recovery. 01:54:53
Effort run us through the paperwork and the figures. 01:54:57
20 3. 01:55:15
So, so do we have something to put up put up there? Did you guys want to do that or just talk on the paper? That was what we 01:55:21
emailed that presentation into you. I've got we got the emails, but we haven't put it here. What we do have is paper. 01:55:26
OK. So we don't have it. 01:55:32
Ready to put up? 01:55:34
We'll just use the paper. 01:55:35
Give us a moment. 01:55:44
Let's let's take a recess here for 10 minutes. 01:55:48
You should look when we get a break, sorry. 01:55:51
Perfect. 01:55:55
Being. 01:56:00
In 10 minutes, I think everybody's happy now for happy years. 01:56:02
Are you ready? Thank you. 01:56:06
And do you have your presentation? 01:56:08
Yes, Sir is ready. All right, so this is great. You have the floor. State your name, who the heck you are and why you're here. 01:56:11
Commissioners of Charles Boston Industries and we're here to do a. 01:56:18
FEMA overview kind of show you guys exactly where we're around everything and go over all the South Fork and salt fire expenses. 01:56:22
So. 01:56:30
OK. So we have our inventory 8 project is our big right away debris removal project 7.7 million. 01:56:33
This has been submitted to FEMA for the 75% reimbursement and is at the there's. 01:56:40
Their center analysis being reviewed. 01:56:46
But it's looking good and we we have all their. 01:56:49
Documentation in so they're. 01:56:51
Working through that right now. So we should, maybe we should tell the whole story, right? Or at least most of it. 01:56:54
On that particular one. 01:56:59
So this was during an emergency when we wrote this contract, this was actually declared by the previous. 01:57:03
Occupier of the President. 01:57:11
Presidency. 01:57:13
And and. 01:57:16
As such. 01:57:17
We we're looking for life safety issues. 01:57:19
Very quickly done. 01:57:23
And we? 01:57:24
Inadvertently admitted. 01:57:25
Some some verbiage. 01:57:27
In the contracts. 01:57:32
Then after we had the time, had it not been an emergency, we will certainly put a MET. 01:57:34
So when this was submitted. 01:57:40
A number of. 01:57:43
The contracts were rejected because they did not have. 01:57:44
That those codicils or those that verbiage in it. 01:57:49
We since subsequently. 01:57:53
Have been told by FEMA what needed to be done. 01:57:55
The addendums will be done and we will resubmit. 01:57:59
And there seems to be no reason to suspect we won't get our reimbursement. 01:58:03
But that's where we're at right now, so. 01:58:08
We have that information. 01:58:12
Continue. All right, so that's our. 01:58:13
Or category A or right of ways of removal if you go to the next slide please. 01:58:16
So here's. 01:58:21
We're kind of labeling this as a gap B or the. 01:58:23
EOC costs, so this was all. 01:58:26
The cost that was for the emergency efforts. 01:58:29
Right after the fire. So this would include all the things the county paid for like. 01:58:31
The catering at the EOC, the. 01:58:37
Firefighting efforts. 01:58:39
There's quite a few things that. 01:58:41
In this, in this project. But all those receipts have been documented. They've all been submitted to FEMA. 01:58:43
And again, it's under review for reimbursement. 01:58:48
And there is there any? 01:58:51
Concerned about how we submitted those there. There is going to be questions that come back and forth. Yes, Sir. JD King, King 01:58:54
Industries. 01:58:58
There are going to be some questions to come back. 01:59:02
Just like in our. 01:59:04
Cat a project. 01:59:06
Those questions. 01:59:08
Obviously will be answered as they come, but there's so many different contracts in this one. 01:59:09
So many different ways of purchase. 01:59:15
That all of them will have to be reviewed on an individual basis. 01:59:17
And. 01:59:21
Responded back to in case 13 is any. 01:59:22
Anything needs to be changed or modified. 01:59:24
So what's the total dollar amount? Category B. 01:59:26
Would you repeat that please? What's the total dollar amount? I can't see it from here. 01:59:32
Our category B1, so we're handling these a little bit separate because the road. 01:59:38
That the emergency Rd. repairs. 01:59:41
Or in their own project. 01:59:43
That was. 01:59:45
726,000 for the emergency Rd. repairs the county paid for and then the EOC cost was just a hair under a million at. 01:59:46
About 9.7. 01:59:53
Or 970,000. 01:59:55
OK. And as we go through the slides, it'll break this down a little bit more and show where all those dollars went. Thank you. 01:59:58
And then next we have our Category C project. So these are permanent work projects that we put in with FEMA to to repair roads. 02:00:04
Culverts and. 02:00:11
Throughout the the burned area and most of that that damage was caused from the the flooding that was after the after the fires. 02:00:14
OK, so here's where it kind of starts breaking down. 02:00:25
How much we submitted for on all the. 02:00:29
On all the different projects and it did that up to. 02:00:32
37 million for all the. 02:00:36
For all the. 02:00:39
Disaster award that we put in. 02:00:40
With FEMA. 02:00:42
30, it's 37 million, but most of that is. 02:00:44
Permanent work projects in the future, they have not been, have not been done. The county doesn't have any money into those 02:00:47
projects that they're not started. They're how much do we have? 02:00:51
Did we expect today? 02:00:56
Right at 10 million, that'd be the first of the top three up there. The A and the B is money that is already spent. That's. 02:00:58
Just a hair under 9.7. 02:01:04
7:00 So that that matches, Madam Treasurer, what you suspect we. 02:01:08
That's suspect. That's a terrible thing to say what you know. 02:01:13
So we show the 10 million plus we have a little bit more for the leasing file. So that's all on the same fund. But yes, that's. 02:01:22
I would have to. I can't see it from here. Trying to look at it on. 02:01:33
I think I think the 9.7. 02:01:39
Figure matches salt and and and South. 02:01:42
So there's there's some nuances in there that we're having to find because of payrolls and how they ended. 02:01:46
Some of the Bluetooth fire. 02:01:52
Paper will carry over and that's where we've got some some of the. 02:01:53
The pennies to verify. 02:01:57
Yeah, so, so the Bluetooth, where are we at? 02:01:58
In getting reimbursement for that, how's that going to? 02:02:01
That's under a different that's for the OES or EOS and Brian has submitted it, it's with. 02:02:05
The state, and we're waiting on those DHS EM, is that where that went to? 02:02:13
How much is that? 02:02:19
I don't have that figure in front of. 02:02:21
I don't either 116,000 or something. 02:02:24
So so I need I need some information on that. 02:02:32
Parent when you get a chance. 02:02:37
Like to know where we're at on that? 02:02:38
And so and so the the bottom line here, I think. 02:02:42
Is. 02:02:46
I need to have those those numbers. 02:02:49
Put together and. 02:02:51
And also separate. I think you have it here. 02:02:52
And then where? Where are the the risks? 02:02:55
To the county in terms of. 02:02:58
Getting refunds? 02:03:00
That that's that's key. 02:03:03
So in category A, category A and Category B. 02:03:06
The risks are obviously in those three projects. 02:03:09
And. 02:03:12
We're a lot further along. 02:03:13
In the category A project. 02:03:15
In the process. 02:03:17
I've said in earlier you've got some addendums that need to be. 02:03:18
Added into those contracts just to make sure that they pass purement. 02:03:22
And once that happens. 02:03:26
We understand that they've already passed all the other checks. 02:03:28
So should be our final step on getting that one. 02:03:31
Submitted to the state for reimbursement. 02:03:34
Money submitted from FEMA to the state for reimbursement, not the other way around. 02:03:38
The cat bees. 02:03:42
Obviously are going to be. 02:03:43
They're going to take a little more effort because there's so many different pieces and he'll show you in a minute. 02:03:45
Of what all those are, but that one's a little bit more at risk. 02:03:50
Because we haven't gone through. 02:03:54
Every step with them on contracting. 02:03:56
OK, continue. 02:04:01
You're going to minimize slide please. 02:04:04
OK. So the way we broke down this this project we have is so this was the communication costs that were. 02:04:08
Incurred during the. 02:04:14
During the fire. So after the fire, the. 02:04:15
Cell phone towers went down and we were relying on radios and. 02:04:17
The emergency relying on. 02:04:21
Alternative communication So this shows just what we. 02:04:24
What the county? 02:04:27
In that situation, to get the communication online to fight the fire. 02:04:29
Another slide has all this token up, so the next slide too. 02:04:34
This was the catering cost for the EOC. 02:04:39
Which was set up at the Ruidoso Convention Center. 02:04:41
And the county and the village took turns. 02:04:44
Thank for the catering to feed the. 02:04:48
Firefighters, swiftwater rescue teams of. 02:04:49
Emergency Management, people from the state that were there, there was quite a few. 02:04:52
People here fighting the fire so this just shows the. 02:04:56
The catering cost of the county picked up on that one. 02:04:59
What was the cost? 02:05:01
I can't read the numbers to you. 02:05:03
It comes back around later but it's about 225,000 for catering. 02:05:05
And it's important to look at because this summer, if we do get it. 02:05:09
You know, some flooding and they declare a new FEMA disaster, then they'll establish an EOC. 02:05:12
And they'll be cost in. 02:05:18
In running that, you'll see in that situation if that happens. 02:05:20
We'll have a more fiscally responsible manager in place at that time. 02:05:24
But that's what these slides can just show exactly what happened that way for planning in the future to know. 02:05:28
What what direction to go on that? 02:05:33
Next slide, please. 02:05:35
So communication costs, how do we get to? 02:05:38
How do we cover those? 02:05:41
Future. No, I mean. 02:05:45
These nails that in. 02:05:47
Right. 02:05:50
That's money spent. We cover that money. So that's in that EOC reimbursement. 02:05:51
And this just this is just. 02:06:00
To break it down into about 5 categories to seek to show where the money went. And the catering is part of the EOC piece. Yes, 02:06:01
Sir. We're just calling it the EOC because it was. 02:06:06
The money that was basically spent right in the firefighting efforts, in the staying online. 02:06:10
And, and the, the direct couple weeks out, you know, as the fire was being bought and then as the the flood started, all that cost 02:06:16
was being. 02:06:20
That's also in the IMAX refunds too. That's what Brian is doing, Aaron, correct? 02:06:32
For the Bluetooth, yes Sir. 02:06:38
Please. 02:06:43
This slide just shows kind of some. 02:06:46
Random expenses that the county. 02:06:48
Picked up right again at that same timeline, this would be. 02:06:50
Fuel. Propane. 02:06:53
You know, sandbags. 02:06:56
Buying sand and. 02:06:58
To four to five people's houses in different places, so. 02:06:59
These are different things that the county. 02:07:02
Paid for just to get in the direct aftermath of the disaster. 02:07:04
And all these expenses are submitted to FEMA and they are in the what we're calling the EOC Category B project. 02:07:08
That shows the the I've asked. 02:07:18
Which is. 02:07:20
All of the. 02:07:21
Different fire departments from around the state that came to help us fight the fire and the expenses that they have. 02:07:23
As you know, we had quite a few. 02:07:29
Counties and cities. 02:07:31
That we have firefighters coming. 02:07:32
And again, this is all submitted to FEMA for reimbursement. 02:07:35
So, so in the eye mask fairness is a question for you. 02:07:38
It it was there. Is there a way that we can request? 02:07:42
The the support. 02:07:47
And having the state directed pay for it as opposed to us. 02:07:49
And then question. 02:07:53
From the state. 02:07:54
That's a good question and I'm not sure the answer on that. We can definitely look into that. 02:07:56
Or obviously we need to do this again, I thought the IMAS system. 02:08:01
Basically, it's a state. 02:08:05
System, statewide system for sure, right? 02:08:08
And I thought if we had a legitimate request. 02:08:11
That was approved through my list that I asked in fact would find that. 02:08:14
That. 02:08:18
That deployment of those resources directly. 02:08:19
And they would, they would go to Imass themselves. 02:08:22
As individual. 02:08:25
Hannity as opposed to? 02:08:27
Are you doing that? 02:08:29
So the way I understand that front. 02:08:30
And pages. This is out of our pocket now. And now we're begging to get paid. I thought I mess. 02:08:32
Was set up not just a request, but actually fund and support. 02:08:38
These efforts I'm ever looking there. 02:08:43
So. 02:08:45
I think that's where we were all a little confused from the get go, but the way I understand it now is that whenever we make that 02:08:47
request. 02:08:50
They fulfilled the request through the state and then we pay for that IMAP. 02:08:53
And then we get reimbursed. 02:08:58
In the state, so it's a. 02:09:00
It's kind of like a grant where we have to pay for it and then get reimbursed on the back end. 02:09:02
I'd like to get some work. 02:09:10
We can reach out to Allie Ryan and see if we can get some more clarification on. 02:09:12
Somebody told me. 02:09:19
Don't ask me who because I don't remember, but somebody told me that that's how that system worked. 02:09:22
Or could work. 02:09:28
Had we? 02:09:29
Went through the through it the right way or different way? 02:09:31
Anyway that we're going to get our money back. 02:09:34
Right, Sir, I hope. Great. 02:09:37
Continue next slide. 02:09:41
So this is the Swiftwater. 02:09:45
Rescue teams that came in during the flooding, they had some expenses, so this was also put into that POC cost. 02:09:47
We bought a steel plate for road construction that. 02:09:55
That the county still owns I believe we're partnered with the village 5050 on that and the village has it in their possession 02:09:58
right now, but it's. 02:10:01
Future if there's a road that gets washed out or something, we have it handy for the. 02:10:05
For a future disaster. 02:10:08
You know, we need an inventory of that. 02:10:10
Are those just the ones that were placed over? 02:10:15
To get you know. 02:10:18
To get into the racetrack. 02:10:20
I don't believe so. Imagine those are the ones that we use. The two other more, do we know? No, it says here they were not used at 02:10:23
the Rita Downs racetrack, the road plates. 02:10:27
He's there were furnished by the contractor that did that work so. 02:10:32
They weren't utilized. 02:10:36
Minor sailing artists. 02:10:37
Purchased in case we needed it and I'm not sure if it was used or not but it's in the. I believe it's in a village of Burrito so. 02:10:39
I see. 02:10:47
OK, but they were never used. 02:10:49
They're never used, they're stacked up over. 02:10:51
But we're going to share the cost with them and we have it in to get reimbursed for it. 02:10:55
Here's Here's the breakdown of that big. 02:11:04
Of the what were called the EOC one. 02:11:06
So it just shows all those costs broke down. 02:11:09
But it's a good kind of a lesson to learn as far as where the money goes when you have a disaster. And then what? 02:11:11
What, what? What did we pay more on this one that we have ready to go for the next time as far as our communication stuff? 02:11:17
The Malva County owns. 02:11:23
What they need? 02:11:25
For the firefighters. 02:11:26
What's force account Equipment force. 02:11:30
That's a. 02:11:35
The counting zone. 02:11:36
Staff equipment that y'all already own. 02:11:37
Like the road department for example, if they did any work, that stuff goes under. 02:11:41
Under those expenses. 02:11:45
So that way people can take 4 is to like a typical. 02:11:46
They in the county were. 02:11:49
It would be part of the counties budget. This was for emergency efforts. So how did we get? 02:11:51
Get those numbers, Jeff. We're using Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Jeff Honeycutt, Lincoln County Road Superintendent. Yes, Sir, 02:11:55
we did a spreadsheet. 02:11:59
On all the hours that we did when there was regular time or overtime. 02:12:03
And we? 02:12:07
Attached the equipment to the hours of the individual that was working. 02:12:08
So you have an hourly rate for a greater an hour, you make for a lower. That is correct, yes. 02:12:11
And we do have to use the FEMA members for those rates on the equipment. 02:12:17
And we plug those in, we have a jet into the spreadsheet and. 02:12:22
Turn that into FEMA and King Industries, and that's how they come up with the. 02:12:26
They should have any trouble. 02:12:32
Complying with. 02:12:34
What the requirements in terms of things or so contract 100%? 02:12:36
Yes, and FEMA sets the rates for. 02:12:44
For the equipment and Jennifer did a very good job of. 02:12:47
You know, tracking everything, so we had all the information to submit to them. 02:12:50
Just. 02:12:55
Just a question, the swift water rescue we ever perform any? 02:12:58
Swift water rescues with those guys. 02:13:01
Yes. So those guys I know we do. 02:13:04
Yes, Sir. So those water cans did perform rescues. I know a lot of them were performed down along Highway 70 in that Turkey Mobile 02:13:08
Home Village area. 02:13:12
Kind of case in point, I don't know how many of you guys seen the video where the swift water team actually got stuck up in the 02:13:17
tree. 02:13:21
That was. 02:13:25
During the performance of a rescue. 02:13:26
On Hwy. 70. 02:13:28
So. 02:13:31
They rescued themselves. 02:13:33
There was some equipment purchased by the county for our own emergency. 02:13:40
Of personnel and that is will be. 02:13:44
They will be utilized again. 02:13:46
I think I I think I have a better understanding of where. 02:13:54
Costs are, I don't know how you guys. 02:13:56
And so this was valuable. 02:14:00
But I'm still. 02:14:03
It seems to me that that we're going to have to put a lot of calories. 02:14:05
And following up and making sure that we actually get the money. 02:14:09
That's that's key. 02:14:14
The other The other lesson learned should not have been learned. 02:14:16
Is that? 02:14:20
We have to be ready for the next time we have these disasters and. 02:14:20
We're planning that we're going to have. 02:14:24
They'll be stupid if we didn't. 02:14:26
So what does that mean? 02:14:29
That means to me that we should have. 02:14:31
A thorough understanding. 02:14:33
And how to procure these services and account for them so that and contract? 02:14:35
So that we never have this. 02:14:41
There's ladies in the room. 02:14:44
This stuff happened again. 02:14:46
And I'm quite sincere about that. 02:14:48
Is there It was a lesson learned and we have the information now to. 02:14:52
Yeah, to know how to kind of why we hire you guys, right? 02:14:57
That's one of the reasons. 02:15:01
Is there. So that's one thing that we would recommend as well and we can get before for the county years ago. 02:15:02
And got you under a bunch of different contracts on call contracts to handle. 02:15:09
All of those situations. 02:15:12
A lot of time lapse between your previous disaster and this one. 02:15:15
And those contracts left your procurement ages changed, all those kind of things and they just kind of fell away it seems like. 02:15:19
The data is still there. You still have that in your procurement department to be able to. 02:15:24
Go back and reference all those. 02:15:28
But. 02:15:31
Would highly recommend. 02:15:32
Making sure you get all that on call. 02:15:33
Prepare your contracting all your. 02:15:36
Rules everything set in stone. 02:15:38
It makes it so much easier for your management to go out there and say. 02:15:41
This is what we know how to use. This is where it is know what it's going to cost. 02:15:44
Across the board. 02:15:48
Yeah, yeah. 02:15:49
We might need your ongoing mentorship for our. 02:15:51
For our procurement. 02:15:55
Department. I love what Nick's doing. He's really doing a great job, but. 02:15:56
He's still new too, so he's going to need some help that way. 02:16:01
And perhaps we'll quote, take advantage of our lawyers as well. 02:16:04
We've got several boilerplates that we can provide him. 02:16:09
That he could utilize. 02:16:12
Beds have been approved through FEMA on. 02:16:14
What needs to be done thing? 02:16:17
Perfect. So make that happen because as you well know. 02:16:18
The next fire is tomorrow. 02:16:22
I think tomorrow. 02:16:25
So. So we have to be ready now. Let's don't hold. 02:16:28
Don't wait for us to get. 02:16:32
Through this, you know you got to work in parallel. 02:16:34
Yes, they're fine. We have to work in peril. Not seriously. 02:16:36
And so I really encourage you to do that. We need to help and we need, we cannot go through this. 02:16:38
This again. 02:16:45
And I don't know. 02:16:50
Who, who was eating down there at the you know. 02:16:51
We're going to have to fix that. 02:16:54
Outrageous. 02:17:00
Any questions? 02:17:01
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate it. 02:17:04
Alright. 02:17:08
So I think, I think what we could do now I'm trying to. 02:17:13
Make sure that we. 02:17:16
Make a rolling black white board. You keep talking, but I want to persuade that. 02:18:03
OK. 02:18:07
Chairman 30. Commissioners Aaron 3/1. 02:18:12
Emergency services director for Lincoln County. 02:18:15
So what we're talking about here is. 02:18:18
We were notified that we received $1,000,000 from capital outlay this year to. 02:18:22
Planet design and construct. 02:18:27
Strategic water reservoirs throughout the county. 02:18:29
What we're wanting to focus on with these strategic water reservoirs is. 02:18:33
The fire station. 02:18:37
On most of our fire stations are very well centrally located. 02:18:38
And they provide good filling points for. 02:18:43
Our fire apparatus. 02:18:48
So before you, what I handed out this morning is kind of a ranking sheet. 02:18:53
Of how we rank each one of those fire stations. 02:18:57
Based on who we or which fire station we think would benefit the most from the. 02:19:01
These water reservoirs to start off with. 02:19:06
That kind of hurts people behind it. 02:19:29
Saying I can't do anything for you. 02:19:31
So looking at this ranking sheet. 02:19:33
So tended to go back with this. 02:19:40
With this first million dollars. 02:19:44
Definition to the white billboard there. 02:19:49
Good question. Other duties of the song? 02:20:09
Thank you. 02:20:12
Down a little bit. 02:20:27
There we go. 02:20:43
OK, there and the floor is yours. OK, now that we have the map up. 02:20:54
So. 02:21:01
Going back to what this $1,000,000 we're really hoping. 02:21:02
And we think that we can achieve numbers one through 5 on the ranking sheet. 02:21:06
So on the map, if you guys can see that. 02:21:11
Everything that's marked in green. 02:21:16
Is the fire station that has a fire hydrant that is connected to a community water system? 02:21:19
Meaning it's a private water system, a municipal water system, something like that. They have a hydrant at that station that's 02:21:23
connected to that system. 02:21:27
The blue ones. 02:21:32
Our fire stations that currently have a standalone. 02:21:33
Strategic water reservoir. 02:21:37
Meaning 30 to 40,000 gallons with a pump and a hydrant. 02:21:40
And then the red ones. 02:21:45
Our fire stations with. 02:21:46
No water systems whatsoever, so they do not have a hydrant. 02:21:48
Connected to community system and they do not have. 02:21:51
A strategic water reservoir. 02:21:54
And on that map you can see two of those fire stations have that red marking on them. 02:21:57
Those are going to be the Copper Ridge Fire Station, operated by the Benito Volunteer Fire Department. 02:22:03
And the Potato fire station or Hondo Fire station #2 operated by the Hondo Valley Volunteer Fire Department. 02:22:07
Those two are ranked number one and two on our list. 02:22:14
Name #3 and #4 on the list are existing water systems. 02:22:19
So the Sunkara Fire Station, operated by the Veneer Volunteer Fire Department, currently has the 40,000 gallons. 02:22:24
With the pump, however, they do not have a fire header. 02:22:31
So we would need to go in and kind of retro that. 02:22:34
That system to put a fire hydrant on it. 02:22:37
To make it fully compliant. 02:22:40
And then #4 is Glencoe Fire Station 2. 02:22:43
They have 30,000 gallons of water. 02:22:47
They have a pump and they have a hydrant. 02:22:49
So they do meet the basic specifications, however, with where that station sits. 02:22:52
And how that and how that system was originally designed? 02:22:57
It is not connected to a well. 02:23:01
And it is not a rain catchment system. 02:23:03
So having an additional 10,000 gallons of storage on that system. 02:23:05
And putting a water catchment to that system. 02:23:09
Would be major, major benefit. 02:23:12
And then #5 which is no doubt Fire Station 1. 02:23:15
Also known as the Forsythe Fire Station, operated by the Nogal Volunteer Fire Department. 02:23:19
They have a hydrant that is connected to a community water system. However, that community water system does not have very much 02:23:25
storage. 02:23:28
So we have a hard time getting that system recognized by ISO. 02:23:32
And if we do, in the event that we do have an incident within that. 02:23:37
Stations coverage area. 02:23:41
The minute we hook into their hydrants, we have the chance of draining their capacity down below their their minimums. 02:23:43
So we believe that having a water, a standalone system. 02:23:51
At that fire station to be a major benefit. 02:23:54
So looking at numbers. 02:23:58
One through 5. 02:23:59
That would be 3 complete water systems. 02:24:01
Meaning 40,000 gallons of storage, a pump and a hydrant all installed at those stations. 02:24:04
And then numbers 3 and 4 would be just going in and. 02:24:10
Bringing those. 02:24:14
Systems up to compliance. 02:24:16
And like I said before, we think that we have a really good shot depending on contractors and how we actually get these bids. We 02:24:19
think that we have a shot at being able to accomplish numbers one through 5 on this list. 02:24:24
With this first $1,000,000 that we received in ICICI. 02:24:31
I will stand for the. 02:24:37
So once we actually get the money in place and all that, yes, we are looking at going after an RFP for. 02:24:59
Our contractors do install all of these. 02:25:05
Systems. 02:25:07
So. 02:25:16
Just looking earlier. 02:25:20
Do you feel like those are those are at the spots? 02:25:24
That can do most good. We talked about transport. 02:25:27
Refresh time. 02:25:30
To get to. 02:25:31
Our high risk areas where the values are and the fuels are. 02:25:33
Yes, Sir. So looking at the Copper Ridge Fire Station. 02:25:36
That station services all of the Angus area. 02:25:40
And then Copper Ridge, Copper Canyon, all of that, the closest fill site to that station currently is back at the top of Angus 02:25:44
Hill. So whenever you imagine a a large water tender. 02:25:49
Once it spins all of its water on scene, it's got to travel all the way back up Angus. 02:25:54
At probably a pretty slow rate of speed, get water and then come back down, which is also wear and tear on the vehicle, wear and 02:26:01
tear on the brakes. So having a water system at that station. 02:26:06
Would be a major benefit. 02:26:11
Looking at the Picacho fire station in the valley. 02:26:13
The closest fill site to that station is going to be back at Hondo Fire Station 1, which is right at the Hondo Senior Center. 02:26:16
Just north of the 7380 junction there. 02:26:24
That area we see a lot of grass fires. 02:26:28
We're looking at a lot of ranch landing stuff out there and so to have those vehicles traveling back into Hondo to get water and 02:26:30
then all the way back out to the scenes. 02:26:34
We spend a lot of fuel, a lot of wear and tear, a lot of drive time on those vehicles, so having that water system closer to where 02:26:39
we catch a lot of those fires is is going to be a major, major benefit. 02:26:44
For that area. 02:26:49
And then looking at numbers 3 and 4, Sonterra and Glencoe Fire Station 2, that's just on the benefit those existing systems. 02:26:51
Bringing them up to ISO compliance. 02:26:59
And making them. 02:27:01
Better use systems. 02:27:03
And then Nogal Fire Station 1. 02:27:04
It's kind of A2 fold thing. We're benefiting the community with that one because we're not going to be draining their system as 02:27:08
much. 02:27:11
As well as that area Sir, or that station services a very large area including Nogal Canyon all the way out to 8 mile. 02:27:15
There's quite a bit of housing in there, it's all urban interface. 02:27:23
Having that water close to where we have quicker turn around times for those water tenders is going to be a huge benefit. 02:27:26
Girl in good shape. 02:27:33
From that, from a water standpoint. 02:27:35
So Corona has a municipal water system and their municipal municipal fire department. So we don't really have much to do with 02:27:36
them. 02:27:40
We could explore that further down the road if they wanted to, kind of. 02:27:44
Joining forces with us. 02:27:49
Later down the road. 02:27:51
Well, you know, I just, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking that the interface the the distance between corona. 02:27:52
You know, always cares. 02:27:58
I'm thinking that as a vulnerable area and they've we've had fires out there in that region. 02:28:01
And then really at 2:46. 02:28:07
As well. 02:28:10
Gets gets pretty. 02:28:12
Pretty dry out there, a lot of grass down there floors. 02:28:14
Over there and I know that. 02:28:17
Our friends that live out towards Mile High. 02:28:19
You know at that. 02:28:22
Those extreme ends of Lincoln County. 02:28:24
They they have some needs too, so. 02:28:27
I I don't see any problem with this. I think it's. 02:28:30
It's a good plan. 02:28:32
With what you have. 02:28:33
But you know, maybe in the future we would start thinking about even places. 02:28:35
That don't even have. 02:28:39
A Volunteer Fire Department. 02:28:43
But we know that we're going to need a water reservoir. 02:28:44
Maybe times of emergency? Just just the thought. 02:28:48
The depot, you know, like we can change horses back in the old days, right so. 02:28:53
So we could. 02:28:59
We could do the same thing. 02:29:00
I would love to look at that for future project. 02:29:02
Chairman. Yes, Sir. Mr. Chairman, does this plan include any water collection systems? 02:29:05
Yes. So all of these systems will be rain catchment systems as well. 02:29:12
So don't get gutter systems on their fire stations. 02:29:16
Directing all that water into the tanks. Do any of these other current? 02:29:19
Fire departments already have water collection systems in place. 02:29:24
Yes, so. 02:29:27
We'll take numbers 12 and 13 for example. Those are the 2 new ones that we just built. 02:29:30
At Glencoe Station number one and Hondo station #1. 02:29:35
Both of those systems have. 02:29:39
Brain catchment systems. 02:29:41
As well as #11 the Nogales Station 2 or the Abbey and Fire Station. 02:29:43
Is a rain catchment system as well. 02:29:48
Can be in the plan Aaron to help facilitate some of these other departments. 02:29:50
You know, compensating some of that water with with those rain collection systems. Can we do that at the same time? 02:29:55
Yes, yes. And so looking at #4 on the list, which is one that we hope to accomplish. 02:30:00
Along I don't think that it made it into the narrative there, but along with that additional 10,000 gallons of storage. 02:30:07
We want to put a ring catchment system on that station as well. 02:30:13
So you've already you've already included. 02:30:16
Those types of projections. 02:30:19
Yeah. 02:30:20
Anybody else? Any other questions or comments? 02:30:26
My only comment as I sit here and look at this map, you see these large areas. 02:30:29
Primarily rural branches without any. 02:30:34
And to your point, I think. 02:30:37
There's at some point there can be a network or some contact made with. 02:30:39
Ranchers that have water storage systems in those areas that fit you were mentioned earlier. 02:30:44
Perhaps have an agreement, some sort work if there's an emergency there that you can't have into that water. 02:30:49
Just set up some of those. 02:30:55
Maybe not necessarily need the infrastructure owned by. 02:30:56
The county of the. 02:30:59
Fire departments perhaps ingredients with the locations and some. 02:31:01
Some awareness of. 02:31:05
Is there Commissioner Fisher? 02:31:07
Or Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Wilson. 02:31:08
That's a very good point, and we do have a lot of those agreements already in place. 02:31:11
A lot of them are focused more than the valley, but we do have some out like windmill ranches area. 02:31:15
Some of the stuff north of Capitan along Hwy. 2 weeks if you do already have agreements in place. 02:31:20
Where we can actually use those ranchers water systems if they have enough water to allow us to use them. 02:31:26
I know that's kind of a hard thing right now with everybody being so dry. We've run into a couple of ranchers that they just 02:31:32
didn't have the water to loan us at the time, but. 02:31:36
We do have some of those agreements already in place. 02:31:40
Yes. And that is something else that we're bringing online too, so with the road departments. 02:31:44
4000 gallon water tuners. You guys have three of them recurrently. 02:31:49
We're working on getting some fittings and stuff to make sure that those trucks hook up to the fire trucks. 02:31:53
And so in the event that we get a fire, we're going to be. 02:31:58
Asking the road department for some help and bringing those trucks out as well. That way we can use. 02:32:01
Use that water. I think that is that's absolutely fantastic. That's the kind of out-of-the-box thinking. 02:32:06
That will make us successful. 02:32:12
Mr. Rhodes, Superintendent, is that going to be done? 02:32:15
Chairman Fisher Commissioners Jeff Honeycutt, Lincoln County Road Superintendent the Fittings. 02:32:18
Just a matter of getting the trucks hooked up, We're ready to go. 02:32:24
Well, when is that going to be done? 02:32:26
We're we're ready to go. 02:32:28
We can get the fittings on our trucks and ready to go. 02:32:30
This afternoon. 02:32:35
And I'm being stupid, you know, but, but I, you know. 02:32:36
I want you to come in. 02:32:44
And and if you need resources from your body. 02:32:46
Come and ask for it. 02:32:49
But I want this done because. 02:32:50
Remember I told you the fire is tomorrow? 02:32:53
I mean. 02:32:55
Tomorrow. 02:32:57
So currently as it sits, we have. 02:32:58
Yes, we have used the road department tenders in the past. I know you guys have, but you just pointed out a very good. 02:33:00
Capability. 02:33:06
That would it's force. It's a force multiplier. 02:33:07
Right. Yeah, it. 02:33:10
It's a fourth multiplier. 02:33:12
So make it happen. 02:33:13
Tested test the the notion. 02:33:14
Before you actually have to use it. 02:33:17
And come back to this body. 02:33:19
Next week. 02:33:20
Or next time we meet. 02:33:21
And tell us how you did that. 02:33:25
Because we like to see. I think that. 02:33:26
That is just perfect. 02:33:27
That's perfect. Thank you. 02:33:29
You already have the quick couplers right now. 02:33:31
Catalogs all that good stuff that to already. 02:33:36
Adapt from years to years. 02:33:39
The boys need training team. Actually, they don't have to. 02:33:43
All right. Thank you so much. 02:33:47
You're very good. We really like that. 02:33:50
That's that's, that's not just planning, that's doing. And that's what we're interested in. We want. 02:33:55
That's so many damn plans that you never do anything with. 02:33:59
We want it done right. 02:34:02
Perfect. 02:34:04
OK. 02:34:06
Our fee for electrical maintenance services. 02:34:07
Satisfied with the process. 02:34:15
And I guess I thought we had jumped the gun a little bit on this one. 02:34:17
Because I'm, you know, kind of new jumping into it. 02:34:28
But technically I believe this could have been. 02:34:31
Potentially approved at the last Commission meeting just due to the fact of our resolution on purchasing policy. 02:34:34
All it takes is the manager we follow. 02:34:41
Managers leave on if we can, go after an RFP if they say we can. 02:34:43
You can. I believe there was discussion on the needs for the county. 02:34:46
And that's just what I wanted to go over the multiple needs. 02:34:51
That we have, I guess, in this situation. 02:34:54
Small things from the lighting. 02:35:00
The lighting here. 02:35:01
Could be upgraded, you know, so we could charge them for electricity. 02:35:03
That's just a small thing, but umm. 02:35:07
And some of the building that's like highly needed, I believe in the detention center. 02:35:09
Providing has to get upgraded I believe. 02:35:14
And I'm not 100%. 02:35:17
Where all the all the situations, but you know the. 02:35:19
The Breakers need to be labeled. 02:35:25
Due to the Fire Marshall requesting that we. 02:35:27
The following emergency situation, they need to be labeled not only here, but. 02:35:30
And a couple of senior centers. 02:35:34
And I believe that alone. 02:35:36
I mean, it's it's. 02:35:37
Those can be recalling processes. That alone can kick us above 60,000. We're going to have to up an RFP. 02:35:39
On the list of. 02:35:45
This one is finalized, but we can. 02:35:48
Go back out again. 02:35:51
Let me do it again at your request. 02:35:52
And also in the purchasing policy, we love to. 02:35:55
You know it's your. 02:35:59
To bring it. 02:36:00
Before you let y'all know, I want to always continue to do that. 02:36:02
It is the manager's discretion to. 02:36:05
Do that but. 02:36:07
Technically. 02:36:09
You thought to me I'm agreement before you to get them approved, let's go after. 02:36:10
So other than that. 02:36:14
There was more I can't remember off the top of my head. Is there anymore? 02:36:17
There's multiple electrical. 02:36:22
Needs county just like plumbing or VAC. 02:36:25
You definitely need the service. 02:36:28
I believe in this kind of, it's definitely going to be about 60,000 why we went up to the. 02:36:31
Chairman. Commissioners. 02:36:37
We need an electrical contractor. 02:36:38
But it does the boxes in a price. 02:36:40
Because, you know, like the tariffs and all that, in four years everything's going to go up. 02:36:42
Could go up tomorrow. 02:36:46
So what I. 02:36:48
Someone locked in. 02:36:49
So price where they can increase in the next four years. 02:36:51
That's the main thing for the contract for us. 02:36:56
It has to do with the detention center, with those fire departments. 02:37:00
You're all locked in. It's locked in. 02:37:04
We're going with the cheapest price. 02:37:06
Additionally, Chairman, commissioners too. 02:37:12
There's emergency holidays. 02:37:14
Things like that and the price just. 02:37:17
Or limits if they have to come out on those days. 02:37:19
We and. 02:37:22
We know the scoring because of the. 02:37:26
The agenda? I don't know. 02:37:29
You know who was going? 02:37:31
For electronically. 02:37:33
They did do some work for us recently as well and they were here at 5:00 in the morning. 02:37:34
They provided excellent service for us. 02:37:38
Right out as they were. 02:37:41
Score the highest and they were on the agenda. Who? 02:37:45
To approve this online Commission. 02:37:48
So damn. 02:37:50
Additionally, have. 02:37:52
If you've seen the server room, it is like exceptional work that they've done. 02:37:53
And the work that they know all the county buildings, they know the history. 02:37:57
If comments on the work. 02:38:01
Or the. 02:38:02
I mean like the generator and stuff he was explaining earlier here. 02:38:05
Quick, I mean, it's not like, excuse me for a second, but I have a problem. 02:38:11
Sending my money. 02:38:16
Out of out of the county. 02:38:18
Well, there's a great procurement code. 02:38:21
The only questions we can have. 02:38:25
Without breaking the state. 02:38:27
When it stays inside the state. 02:38:28
Not the county. 02:38:30
So for example, if two RFP's if someone like in Arizona. 02:38:33
And New Mexico, they both. 02:38:37
Scored really well, but Arizona scored better. 02:38:39
And we were going to go with Arizona. 02:38:41
The only preference we could have is to go with the one inside the state. 02:38:43
But we cannot do that inside accounting. It's. 02:38:47
The the state procurement code is for the state. 02:38:49
It's not for per county. 02:38:53
So it's just it won't break the state law. 02:38:54
We do have. We cannot do it. 02:38:57
Just a quick question. 02:39:00
I don't remember, but didn't we go through this process? Why didn't we have that last? 02:39:03
Because it was directed like 2 years ago that we go out for RFP. 02:39:09
And then they just did recently. 02:39:13
Technically, I didn't come before the conventional control. 02:39:15
Approval, Darcy. 02:39:18
But in the in the purchasing policy running into managers. 02:39:20
Approval and managers discretion. A request that could come before the Commission gets your approval. 02:39:23
So I'd like to always do that. 02:39:29
But that that's at the managers discretion. 02:39:31
Inside the purchasing, well this this manager was interested in getting. 02:39:33
Some understanding from the body. 02:39:38
And some agreement that. 02:39:41
Fact What the conditions were they are P What were we looking for? 02:39:43
The RFP reflected. 02:39:48
The sentiment of the body. 02:39:51
I think that's that's why we're here today. 02:39:53
And I'd like to know how it was scored and graded, just like all our RFP's being. 02:39:55
Take three to five people from the town. 02:40:01
They can be people that may have. 02:40:05
Experienced work with. 02:40:08
The electrician or. 02:40:11
Like for example if they worked on the jail we may be. 02:40:13
Sheriff's Office. We may pull somebody from the Sheriff's Office to score. 02:40:17
We try to get unbiased. 02:40:20
Of the whole process. 02:40:22
Is supposed to be completely unbiased and you can also view 1. 02:40:24
I found out. 02:40:28
That you're able to if you want to view it, but you. 02:40:29
Would have to essentially set at the back of the room here if you'd like. 02:40:32
Because any of the information upon the scoring sheets, it's not supposed to go out. 02:40:36
Of the scoring. 02:40:40
So you as a commissioner, you could view it. It's not open to the public, but you, commissioner, you could view it as you 02:40:42
requested. 02:40:45
Last Commission meeting. 02:40:48
But any information that's on the sheets or anything like that, the scoring and the process. 02:40:50
It's not supposed to leave. 02:40:54
I understand. 02:40:56
Yeah, so you can. 02:40:57
It's a It's a very simple, basic process and it doesn't take very long, so we have it done within an hour. 02:41:00
Essentially, we come in here and we have the RFP. 02:41:06
Only the RFP's that have a full entire packet. 02:41:09
Let's request if anything is missing that RFP is taken out. 02:41:13
Unless some we can. 02:41:16
Make every attempt. We can't get that packet filled. There are a few big. 02:41:17
Medical calls me and then. 02:41:22
We do the basic scoring, it's great and. 02:41:24
On everything that's inside the RFP is the only thing that can be used to be scoring the scoring? 02:41:27
Inside you, if you're ready, we. 02:41:33
Requirements from this. 02:41:35
Mr. Chair, I have concern because I requested a list of. 02:41:37
Invoices from this. 02:41:41
Contractor, you were representing and. 02:41:44
Trying to shine the positive light on. 02:41:46
And there wasn't a single building permit to go along with those invoices. 02:41:49
And I know he had mentioned he was going to replace an entire panel. 02:41:53
That's concerning that we didn't have a building permit to check quality control. 02:41:57
At a commercial building. 02:42:01
You read it, there's little fuse boxes. All he did is face an existing. 02:42:04
Battle for us, understand? 02:42:11
After. 02:42:14
Occupation if they need a permit, you think? 02:42:16
You wouldn't know if we're going to get one. 02:42:18
All you doing is. 02:42:20
Doing replacing. 02:42:22
Fixtures. 02:42:24
The town at one time. 02:42:25
We're not. We're not doing new construction. 02:42:28
I need permits from new construction. From our my understanding some. 02:42:31
Creating a new existing new system. A new system. 02:42:35
Essentially, I'd like you to verify that with the increase. 02:42:41
Yeah. 02:42:44
Because I believe if you're good, I. 02:42:46
Change the panel on a. 02:42:48
On a commercial building that you need to. 02:42:50
I believe it wasn't changed. 02:42:58
How it was worked on it, I believe correctly, but we'll, yeah, we'll figure it out. 02:43:00
So what action you're looking for today? 02:43:06
I would like to. 02:43:09
Approve the RFP if possible. If not, we can go back out for it and just. 02:43:10
Creates a little bit work, more work I don't mind doing for us to redo the RFP. 02:43:14
I'll send it out and have it rescored again. 02:43:18
But at this time it should be ready for approval due to the fact that the previous manager. 02:43:21
You know, had suggested we go out for it. 02:43:28
Due to the situation that's not currently having one if you guys. 02:43:30
Thought you would. 02:43:34
You need to go out for a new RFP. When When was this let? When when did this RFP? 02:43:35
So now on. 02:43:40
Let me get the dates here real quick for you. 02:43:42
February. 02:43:45
Believe it was. 02:43:47
January. 02:43:50
It was. 02:43:53
January 30th. 02:44:00
This year. 02:44:02
OK, here's my my recommendation to. 02:44:03
To more I would like. 02:44:09
For us to review the RFP. 02:44:12
Just the the the request for proposals. 02:44:14
I want to make sure there's some things in that specifically that I'm not sure. 02:44:18
There they are. 02:44:22
And I think we also should go out again. 02:44:24
In view of the time lateness between the initial response. 02:44:27
And what the data is currently? 02:44:32
Does that does that make sense? Do I have any? 02:44:35
Consensus here on the board with that that action. 02:44:39
Yes, I want to see this going to work. 02:44:42
Exactly. You want to review the stuff and work for. 02:44:45
Technical, uh. 02:44:47
Mostly for the technical. 02:44:48
Requirements that are in it. 02:44:50
And another time like this, does that make sense? And I think we can make. 02:44:52
Make quick work of this. 02:44:56
All right. So, so we have an action that says approval to issue an RFP for electrical maintenance services. 02:44:59
I suppose I would. I would. 02:45:09
I would entertain a motion that says. 02:45:13
Approval to issue a new RFP after technical review by. 02:45:16
After technical. 02:45:21
Is that is that a reasonable motion to someone? But. 02:45:26
But then, Mr. Chairman, I just have a quick comment. 02:45:29
So we, we, we already went through this whole process. 02:45:32
Then we have the the award on our agenda for last meeting. So I don't believe that we're actually too late. 02:45:35
To do that. 02:45:42
It seems like we're just recreating the wheel. 02:45:43
To do it all, yeah. 02:45:45
To award the contract, that's done. 02:45:48
Over $100,000 worth of unpermitted work at our facilities. You want to award it to him? 02:45:52
I don't know. I don't have the proof that it was unpermitted work. 02:45:57
So. 02:46:01
So. 02:46:08
Proceed. 02:46:09
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, essentially the scope. 02:46:15
Is the same as the previous one that was. 02:46:19
Presented, I believe it was in 2023. 02:46:21
It's the same scope. 02:46:25
If you all had a chance to review at that point, just. 02:46:27
You know, just a side note. 02:46:30
2023 duplication of the same. 02:46:32
As a duplication of the same RFP essentially. 02:46:35
They weren't seated at the time, so yeah, I know you two were. I was just saying. 02:46:38
In terms of the scope, so it hasn't changed much to slipped on and. 02:46:42
Let's go. My recommendation still stands. 02:46:50
I want to attend a motion. 02:46:53
We can vote for it or not to approve the. 02:46:55
That what's on the table right now. 02:46:57
Has approved the RFP that's been scored already by the board. 02:46:59
Somebody make that motion, We have a 2nd and we will vote on it. 02:47:06
Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve. 02:47:11
The award for the. 02:47:14
Orthopedic studies for. 02:47:16
It doesn't say that about them to issue on our electric maintenance services. 02:47:18
I don't have anything to say on the agenda. 02:47:23
But this is to issue in our people. We're not ready to. 02:47:31
What we're doing is we're. 02:47:36
We're proving, I agree that. 02:47:38
That it's myth written here. 02:47:40
You have an RFP. You've gone through the process. 02:47:43
The board, Your RFP. 02:47:46
Scoring board awarded it for recommended. 02:47:48
And awarding. 02:47:51
You know that's what's on the table, though. That's not what the agenda is. We can't just make up a new agenda item. 02:47:55
I tend to agree with Commissioner. 02:48:02
Wilson, that is particularly, I don't know. 02:48:05
Second, his function. 02:48:08
Hey, discussion. 02:48:13
So this is to issue an RFP. 02:48:19
Not to award. 02:48:22
We haven't seen this couple words, so how are we going to issue Murphy? 02:48:29
I recommend we table this. I'm not going to. 02:48:35
However, we're not. 02:48:40
Take action on this. 02:48:43
Mr. Chair, if I may, yes, please. 02:48:46
I think because of the confusion. 02:48:48
That's going on. I think that the tabling it would be my recommendation. 02:48:50
And then maybe we can straighten out the language on the agenda item for the next time. 02:48:54
And maybe get whatever information. 02:48:58
Anybody wants? Yeah. 02:49:01
Scope of work, Yeah, Thank you. I agree with that. 02:49:04
So I recommend we table this. 02:49:07
There's any motion? 02:49:17
What are you willing to do that? 02:49:21
I would prefer just to vote on it, Chairman. 02:49:23
Clerk. 02:49:29
What is the motion? The motion is to approve. 02:49:31
That's what's on. 02:49:33
That's what's actually pond air. Whether it's on the agenda or not, I'm going to say no. 02:49:35
Because it's. 02:49:39
Mr. Chairman, at this point I will mention my motion. 02:49:40
OK, so now we can move on to tabling. 02:49:45
Table. 02:49:49
So now can we table? 02:49:53
#18. 02:49:57
To wait, how? 02:50:01
Thanks motion to table. 02:50:04
Unable to issue an RFP. Collectible maintenance services. 02:50:06
When I make that motion, please. 02:50:11
I motion to table agenda item number 18 RFP for electrical maintenance and services. 02:50:15
2nd. 02:50:22
I have a second second. 02:50:24
Madam Clerk. 02:50:27
Commissioner Serna. 02:50:30
Aye, Commissioner Chavez. 02:50:32
Aye, Commissioner Wilson. 02:50:34
Commissioner Prater. 02:50:36
No. 02:50:37
Motion passes through. 02:50:40
So I'll cancel the queue. 02:50:44
I'll get with you and we'll work this out, get it on the and we'll make this happen. 02:50:46
Yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll unscrew this. 02:50:53
Alright. 02:50:57
Once again, I'm just preparing these services it needs to. 02:51:01
OK #19. 02:51:07
I think you're on. You're on deck again. 02:51:11
The reviewing the state statute. 02:51:13
And our purchasing policy and cut a small. 02:51:22
The. 02:51:28
If everybody lives, these are essentially on 2.9. 02:51:32
And resolution. I provided the red line version and the actual change. 02:51:36
You see on 2.9. 02:51:42
Previously we've had. 02:51:50
$5000 or less. 02:51:55
It's just for the price of that. 02:51:57
About $5000. 02:52:01
Everyone is required. 02:52:03
You get 3 quotes. 02:52:05
For the vendor, the vendors are going to use. 02:52:06
And this is just causing a lot of extra time. 02:52:10
Everybody got other jobs. 02:52:14
It doesn't count that much time, but. 02:52:16
In reviewing the. 02:52:19
Statute in the back I've also included in this. 02:52:21
These are statutes that references. 02:52:24
So that you can see. 02:52:27
But anything below $20,000? 02:52:29
It's up to us, a local public party. 02:52:32
To essentially do with the shoes. 02:52:35
So if you all want, we can leave it. The way we're doing is to go up for the free quotes or we can save. 02:52:37
The whole county a little bit of time when going up for those 3 Christmas or. 02:52:42
$20,000 Mark. 02:52:46
And although that will be section A essentially. 02:52:47
Above the 20 to 60,000 is rough. I get the three 105 coats. 02:52:54
The state federal purchasing contract or cooperative agreement. 02:52:58
What I've done as well is kind of just. 02:53:02
Break that down so it's a lot easier to read, and separate it from the paragraph. 02:53:04
Just so that. 02:53:09
Play either for our county to understand the policy. 02:53:10
I've actually since I've started I've had to e-mail this to about four or five different. 02:53:14
You know entity just so we can be clear. 02:53:18
On how to follow our procurement policy and purchasing policy essentially. 02:53:21
And I've also just seen. 02:53:25
Below that after $60,000 in regret for RFP or ITV. 02:53:28
And I've. 02:53:34
Put the definition there. 02:53:35
Just so we all can see that. 02:53:36
Let me help everyone else. 02:53:38
Out as well to. 02:53:40
Get the definition as to you. 02:53:41
When it's best to go for ITV? 02:53:43
OK, KRC. 02:53:46
Or the. 02:53:48
RFP's. 02:53:50
And, umm. 02:53:52
So additionally, if you'd like me to go over any of the changes and how they link to the state statutes, I have. 02:53:55
So I'm going to interrupt here. 02:54:02
I thought we were going to go to 10,000. 02:54:05
Envelope didn't require. 02:54:07
We weren't going to upon reviewing state statute in the back. 02:54:09
The very first page, Yep. 02:54:13
Of the holdings. 02:54:15
It only in the section C here in red. 02:54:18
The very first one. 02:54:23
We were, I was going to go with the 10,000 and add it on there, but just essentially. 02:54:25
There's just no point here. The price of everything is going up ridiculously. 02:54:29
With the tariff potentially coming in. 02:54:33
It's just probably. 02:54:36
Extra work essentially. 02:54:37
I believe this is the old kind of update policy. 02:54:39
And, you know, work with Mike to review it, you know, and ensure that her policies that you. 02:54:42
So essentially, you know. 02:54:48
On the state statute for small purchases and what this is. 02:54:50
Nothing was standing with the requirement or not withstanding the requirements of subsection 8 of the section. 02:54:54
State agency or local public body making your services. 02:54:59
Construction or items of tangible. 02:55:03
Personal umm. 02:55:05
Property having a value not exceeding $20,000. 02:55:06
Yeah, I realized more compliant with the status. So essentially. 02:55:10
It's. You could implement it, but it's just. 02:55:15
Simply not not needed as a function that's. 02:55:19
The fire service, you know, the Volunteer Fire departments, I know. That's why we wanted it 5 to 10. 02:55:25
Is this going to help more from 10 to 20? 02:55:31
Chairman. Fisher, Commissioners. 02:55:34
It will help. 02:55:37
These volunteers are spending a lot of their time going out for three quotes because. 02:55:38
Let's face it, anytime you put fire in front of anything, it's going to cost more. 02:55:44
So with our current limits, they're having to go out and get a lot of quotes to buy their equipment. 02:55:49
So this will help our fire departments tremendously. 02:55:55
In that in 10,000 doesn't give you that threshold you're looking for. 02:55:58
10,000 would be nice, but 20,000 would be. 02:56:02
Really, really nice. 02:56:05
May I put in for a second? I'm I'm a volunteer fireman. 02:56:09
For a Nobel. 02:56:14
We bought, we just purchased radios. 02:56:15
We actually had to do. 02:56:17
We bought 4 radios and we had to do 4. 02:56:20
Separate. 02:56:23
Get 4 separate bins and everything else I I believe that the $60,000. 02:56:26
Or the $20,000? 02:56:31
Would help a lot on the fire departments. 02:56:34
OK. 02:56:37
Why did you have to get separate? 02:56:38
Because #5000. 02:56:40
$30 and. 02:56:42
Radio. 02:56:43
To like just how much where they are, do you remember? I don't remember. I did not see that one come through, but. 02:56:45
I I believe that those radios were every bit of $5000 or more. 02:56:52
Just. 02:56:59
All four of them in the same invoice. 02:56:59
That's up to the Fire Chief how he sent it into us and that's how we pushed it to procurement. 02:57:01
You needed to get 3. 02:57:14
Three quotes for each. 02:57:16
Start to send. Is that what you're saying? No? 02:57:17
Yeah, I mean somebody's. 02:57:20
Things I think in it is there's some secret magic water that I'm not aware of. 02:57:22
I I would I would entertain a motion to. 02:57:27
I have a speaker. 02:57:30
Please. 02:57:32
I like the lower purchasing threshold because it strengthens fiscal oversight. 02:57:33
And it encourages competitive procurement, which we haven't been seeing. 02:57:38
And I think that. 02:57:42
It enforces them doing their due diligence, requiring those or formal fit. 02:57:44
At these lower levels to make sure that public funds are spent responsibly. 02:57:49
And I'm trying to work towards preventing waste and favoritism. 02:57:54
While upholding our purchasing policy. 02:57:58
So he's suggesting you like to go to 10,000 instead of 20? 02:58:01
Any comments? 02:58:09
OK, so. 02:58:15
To another discussions or comments on that. 02:58:18
I will entertain a motion approving regarding resolution 2025-51. 02:58:21
Revising Lincoln County purchasing policy. 02:58:28
Right. 02:58:31
I know that we. 02:58:34
Adopt resolution 2025. 02:58:36
Dash 51 but I wanted to. 02:58:40
10,000. 02:58:43
Anything up to? 02:58:46
Over 10,000 requires to close. 02:58:47
The motions on the table. 02:58:53
For what's being presented to us at 20,000. 02:58:55
Well, that's that's what the resolution states, right? 02:59:03
Material. 02:59:08
He's recommending to have less work. 02:59:12
Is there anybody else that feels the same way? 02:59:16
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 02:59:19
And would you second that? 02:59:22
Yes, with the with the with the change the caveat that the bill from the 20 to 10. 02:59:24
Yes. 02:59:29
OK. We have a motion to 2nd for that and. 02:59:32
Roll call please. 02:59:35
Commissioners, aye. 02:59:37
For sure, Travis, no. 02:59:39
Yes. 02:59:42
Commissioner Fraser. 02:59:43
Yes. 02:59:44
Aye. 02:59:46
So that's what the that's what the provider that we go from the amount of 20 to 10. 02:59:54
1141. 03:00:08
I think is this is lunch ready? 03:00:10
I know I'm looking at you. I didn't mean to ask you. 03:00:20
Hey, George. 03:00:25
Can you look and focus your head and see if lunch is ready please? 03:00:32
It is. 03:00:37
So so I might make the suggestions we want to go I think after this. 03:00:38
We're going to go on executive session, correct? 03:00:43
What are those? 03:00:48
There's no back. 03:00:52
So. 03:00:54
20 and 21 there was no backup material for. 03:00:55
Revising the Lincoln County. 03:00:59
Kind of capital asset policy, I didn't see anything in there. 03:01:01
And then in 21. 03:01:06
I mean, it's I've got a resolution, right? 03:01:07
Said to change it. 03:01:10
Right. Do you see anything? 03:01:15
And on 21 I didn't see anything so I can't. 03:01:17
We can't act on this when we didn't have anything. 03:01:20
To get prepared for this meeting. 03:01:23
So I crossed the map. 03:01:26
That you understand. 03:01:32
OK, thank you. So we will go to the executive meeting after this and let's I, I recommend we break for lunch. 03:01:33
Let's make a quick. 03:01:42
20 minutes and. 03:01:43
So currently. 03:01:46
1143 Let's let's reconvene at 10 minutes after 12. 03:01:48
It's 1210. 03:02:04
We're reconvening. 03:02:05
After our recess, we've recessed the food. Thank you very much. 03:02:07
We have. 03:02:13
Basically three things to do. 03:02:15
Next and they're They all require being. 03:02:19
So we want to act on at least a couple of them maybe. 03:02:24
Three of them. 03:02:27
So we're going to we're going to do it this way. I consulted with our. 03:02:29
Attorney and we're going to go in executive session we're going to have. 03:02:32
A couple of matters that we want to discuss. This is outside of. 03:02:38
Of you candidates. 03:02:41
We're not going to be discussing it with this. 03:02:43
Session. 03:02:45
Then we're going to come out of executive session, we're going to make some motion to vote on. 03:02:47
On two things, probably. 03:02:52
Depending on how the executive session goes. 03:02:54
Once that's done, that action piece will be gone. 03:02:57
Then we'll come back an executive session, and that's where. 03:03:00
We'll start doing the interview process. We've got 1 online. 03:03:03
Or at least will be called and then we'll call you individually and. 03:03:08
We'll have questions. We'll visit a little bit. 03:03:13
OK. 03:03:15
Is that fair? So I would like to go into executive session. 03:03:17
I would like to make a motion that we went to the second session. 03:03:22
Aye, Commissioner Wilson. 03:03:27
Thank you. 03:03:39
Yeah, you can stand. 03:03:45
Right manifestation. 03:03:47
I attached. Matters discussed in the closed meeting were limited to those specified and no action was taken. 03:03:50
So we need to. 03:04:10
Research from the executive session. 03:04:11
Regular session now. 03:04:16
OK, so the next. 03:04:19
Action items that we have. 03:04:21
Is a vote accepting of the? 03:04:23
Contract A2 year contract with the Deputy Association. 03:04:28
Our deputies here in Lincoln County. 03:04:32
We reviewed it. 03:04:34
So I'll take a mess, a motion, somebody give a motion to. 03:04:36
Approve the agreement. Discuss. 03:04:40
Select second second. 03:04:47
Madam Clerk, roll call. 03:04:52
Real quick, do we need any more specific? 03:04:57
Well, we could say as amended during the executive session. 03:05:00
And then I'll I'll provide. 03:05:06
The exact orbits that we agreed. 03:05:07
Yes. 03:05:17
Mr. Sona. 03:05:18
OK, Commission. 03:05:19
Wilson. 03:05:22
Sure, Fisher. 03:05:24
Right. 03:05:25
So I have to work with you in terms of. 03:05:30
It's really it's very simple change. 03:05:32
OK, now. 03:05:36
You want to sing 27th table. 03:05:38
27. 03:05:41
Yeah, we're in a table. 03:05:42
Yeah. And so the full time position question. 03:05:46
We've tabled that for what's the more? 03:05:51
Investigation and more presentations on that. So we're not going to be talking about that today. 03:05:53
So I need a need a motion. 03:06:02
I move to table item number 27. 03:06:04
A full time position since oral services. 03:06:10
Right. 03:06:15
Until a certain date. 03:06:16
Just sometime in the future, we're going to have a discussion next workshop. 03:06:19
OK, we have a second so we can hear roll call. 03:06:26
Mr. Chavez. 03:06:28
Yes, Commissioner Wilson, Yes. 03:06:29
Commissioner, Sir. 03:06:31
Aye, Commissioner, Appraiser. Yes, Chair Fisher. 03:06:32
Thank you. Now we can go back into executive session. 03:06:35
And we'll ask everybody to leave. We're going to have. 03:06:40
We've got one candidate. 03:06:43
For the county manager, it's going to be calling in. 03:06:45
We're going to get that done and then we'll start calling you in individually for. 03:06:48
Review and discussion. 03:06:54
Do you want to go ahead and sign? 03:07:01
So Shannon, have them when you guys are done with interviews or? 03:07:04
Yeah, we, we, we can see how long it takes. We might just have to wait. 03:07:08
Hi, Paul, I'm ready. 03:07:13
Thank you. 03:07:19
I need to move to. 03:07:20
Mr. Wilson, Chair Fisher. 03:07:38
I intend matters discussed in closing very. 03:07:45
In the closing meeting, we're limited to those specified and no action was taken. 03:07:49
And we're now on regular session. 03:08:00
OK. 03:08:01
So we. 03:08:04
We approved. 03:08:06
The agreement between the County of Lincoln and the Lincoln County Deputy Sheriff's Association. 03:08:13
With one. 03:08:18
Myra amendment. 03:08:20
Was agreed to by. 03:08:22
The Sheriff's Association. 03:08:24
And that reads as follows. 03:08:27
Now read the whole sentence. 03:08:29
The longevity experience and physical fitness incentive. 03:08:32
Applies to all certified sworn law enforcement. 03:08:36
In the collective bargaining unit. 03:08:40
And employed by the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office. 03:08:42
That's it. That includes the change. 03:08:46
So that was the amendment. 03:08:49
That's the amendment. 03:08:50
The specifics of the contract. 03:08:52
When does it take effect? How much OK? 03:08:55
Rate B Specifics of a contract. 03:08:58
What do you want in that? 03:09:02
Usually they state. 03:09:05
When they come out of executive and I become a contract. 03:09:07
They'll give the eight amount. 03:09:10
OK. So when it's going to start in any specific details to pay a bills? 03:09:13
You know, I've got 10 different rates here. You want me to say those? 03:09:18
I will, Sir. 03:09:21
Is there a? 03:09:23
Overall percentage or something? 03:09:24
It's approximately 25 to 30% depending on the rate. 03:09:27
Increase. 03:09:31
I think and I think it's kind of hard. 03:09:34
Speak to that. 03:09:37
But but I. 03:09:39
Takes effect and. 03:09:41
What do you want to do that now? 03:09:43
The agreement shall be effective the first full pay period. 03:09:48
Following the ratification and approval, which we've just done. 03:09:51
Bargaining. 03:09:56
With with between the bargaining unit membership and the county Commission. 03:09:57
And that occurs. 03:10:02
On. 03:10:04
On one July. 03:10:08
28 Five. 03:10:10
This agreement will remain in full force in effect through June 30th, 2027. So it is a 2 year agreement. 03:10:14
Non monetary items may be addressed in fiscal year 2027. 03:10:21
Examples of that might be. 03:10:26
How their uniformly. 03:10:28
Uniform allowances. 03:10:30
The increase? 03:10:36
Range from. 03:10:38
Approximately 20% to 25 or 27% depending on. 03:10:41
The deputy and the number of hours of. 03:10:45
Training accrued. 03:10:48
And also there is a. 03:10:50
Longevity Longevity and experience of. 03:10:52
Physical fitness instead of pay. 03:10:55
Which? 03:10:57
By completing unbroken consecutive service with Lincoln County Sheriff's Office. 03:10:59
And passing that test annually. 03:11:04
The fitness standards are. 03:11:06
The mid range. 03:11:08
Fitness standards that are. 03:11:09
Used at the New Mexico Law Enforcement Academy. 03:11:11
Thank you. 03:11:16
Those numbers, like baby, were. 03:11:19
Round numbers. 03:11:22
Yeah, I don't think something so that. 03:11:24
Whenever we have to go back in a minute and see what we proved, we have something to refer back to otherwise. 03:11:26
What was discussed in executive session? 03:11:33
Doesn't show up for the public and so they have no way to know what's actually approved. OK. 03:11:36
Hopefully that's good enough. 03:11:42
Quick, quick question, Chairman, when it comes down to this particular promise area, know that we have given. 03:11:55
Detective Bailey when it comes to. 03:12:03
Amending. 03:12:06
Sergeant and Lieutenant. 03:12:08
Personnel policy. 03:12:10
How do you want to go about doing that? 03:12:12
Does the next meeting we need to request a public hearing to be scheduled for? 03:12:15
June. 03:12:21
Yeah, it's part of. 03:12:24
Policy. 03:12:27
We've got to change that. I'm going to change that policy. So we have to have a plug here in to say we're going to change the 03:12:28
policy and then have the hearing and. 03:12:31
It's just what is the same kind of procedure that you went through? 03:12:36
The last time when we went from 80 to 84 days. 03:12:40
Hours, 84 hours, thank you. And then. 03:12:45
There was something else was also the drug. 03:12:48
And policy testing policy. 03:12:51
OK. So it's the same process for that? 03:12:53
But we now know how to do. 03:12:59
And that would be effective. 03:13:01
In June or July? 03:13:02
Yeah, yeah. 03:13:04
Thanks on July 1. 03:13:05
Are you ready for a motion? Was there anything on 29? 03:13:08
We were going to. 03:13:14
Make an offer to. 03:13:16
The candidate I don't know that that has to be. 03:13:19
Scheduled public hearing to consider other outdated or no Lincoln County ordinances? Nothing. 03:13:24
So however, we can do that. 03:13:31
Schedule a public hearing for May. 03:13:39
Like those ordinances will be done. 03:13:42
For policy, yeah, it's an it's an ordinance. 03:13:44
Park employment policy. 03:13:48
So. 03:13:51
We can do that. We've got our meeting for. 03:13:54
The budget on the 1st. 03:13:58
We can. We can do that. So let's make it on the May 1st. 03:14:01
Include that. 03:14:06
Public hearing. 03:14:08
To Amanda. 03:14:09
Personnel policy. 03:14:11
Is that enough time to publish it? 03:14:13
Manager. 03:14:20
By Thursday. 03:14:27
We agree it's an easy change. 03:14:31
You know, easily comprehend and use the exact same vernacular that they used in the contracts for the surface association. 03:14:34
OK, copy. 03:14:42
Control C. 03:14:45
I just don't want that to be. 03:14:49
Are you ready for the motion? I'm ready to get about it. 03:14:51
Windows and then they don't want to. 03:14:55
Well, I just, I don't want to be sarcastic. 03:14:59
Is actually the most so, so we don't need to be. We do not need to be in sessions. 03:15:04
Kind of negotiate with him. 03:15:13
We don't need to be in session for that, do we? 03:15:16
No, we won't have a cornmeal. 03:15:19
You won't have one, you don't have a corn. So we'll just we'll just see if he. 03:15:22
Agrees on paper, will letter the contract and then like to have another. 03:15:26
Do a special meeting or. 03:15:30
Can we do it right now? 03:15:34
Nokia's other homemade gender and we don't have a contract repaired. 03:15:36
Either schedule a special meeting. Special. 03:15:42
So a verbal confirmation. 03:15:45
We'll have to have a special meeting. Well, we'll have to see how soon you can start. 03:15:50
Yeah. Do you want to what you want to do about the June? 03:15:56
Let's talk about that. 03:16:02
Real quick, come in and put that on a different. 03:16:06
And not have a workshop. 03:16:11
Slash meeting and just are y'all good with that? 03:16:14
Since that's already blocked in my calendars. 03:16:16
Yeah, yeah. So we could have about that 24th. 03:16:18
Made a regular meeting on this for regular meeting and I have a workshop on the tent and then do it on. 03:16:21
Workshop on the tent. 03:16:30
What if we just had our meeting, Tim? 03:16:31
Yeah. Is that what you want? That's what I wanted. 03:16:33
I agree. 03:16:36
Getting frustrated with the workshops. To be honest, I like the workshops today. I do so much more prepared than it. 03:16:38
How did you under the circumstance, I wouldn't mind. 03:16:43
OK, we've got an oddball month. 03:16:47
We're going to regular meeting on the 10th. 03:16:50
OK, OK. 03:16:52
So I didn't realize you had three pay fire. 03:16:58
After the motion chair. 03:17:06
Make one. 03:17:09
My question is. 03:17:12
As well. 03:17:19
OK. Good luck to you. 03:17:28
But you still have. 03:17:30
I could negotiate what the. 03:17:34
Playing hardball. 03:17:36
I meant to adjourn. 03:17:40
2nd, 2nd. 03:17:43
Answer phone call. 03:17:47
34 Fifth. 03:17:49
Commissioner Chavez. 03:17:51
Hi. 03:17:53
Thank you. 03:17:59
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How's how's Karina? 00:00:01
She's the. 00:00:03
Particularly that job. 00:00:11
Want to call this Board of County Commissioners? Regular meeting to order time is 0831. 00:00:14
Madam Clerk, roll call, please. 00:00:22
Now I'd like to stand for the invocation. 00:00:35
Please. 00:00:41
Lord, as we guarantee. 00:00:43
Together today I. 00:00:44
Pray that you guide us with your wisdom. 00:00:45
May we seek unity and and work diligently for the wealthy and our. 00:00:47
And put aside a personal agendas for the betterment of those around us and those that we serve, Lord. 00:00:53
Today I also pray for the rain in abundance that. 00:00:58
That you have planned for us. I thank you that you have. 00:01:01
Good plans for us and. 00:01:04
And our hearts will rejoice when that rain comes. 00:01:05
I'm looking for a motion to approve the agenda on authorizing the. 00:01:29
Care to move items if necessary? Do we have a motion? 00:01:39
2nd please. 00:01:47
Yes, Mr. Wilson. 00:01:51
Commissioner Chavez. Commissioner Aye. Chair Fischer aye Motion. 00:01:53
Thank you. 00:01:57
We'll move to item number six. That would be the approval of the minutes March 18th meeting. 00:02:00
Do you have any comments, questions or corrections requested? 00:02:05
Move that we passed and that we approve the minutes for March. 00:02:18
18.5. 00:02:22
2nd. 00:02:25
Second, any discussion? 00:02:28
Hearing none, Madam Clerk will call please. 00:02:31
Commissioner Wilson. 00:02:34
Just Commissioner service. 00:02:36
Commissioner Rader Aye, Chair Fischer. 00:02:38
Aye. 00:02:40
Thank you. We'll move to item number 7. 00:02:41
And this is approval, the consent agenda I have. 00:02:45
I'd like to see a number of these come out. 00:02:48
For further discussion and. 00:02:51
Illumination. 00:02:53
I would like to take C. 00:02:54
D&E. 00:02:57
Now it's approving the consent agenda. 00:02:59
Do we have any others? 00:03:02
Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to approve the. 00:03:06
Said Agenda A&B. 00:03:10
And then we'll talk about cDNA. 00:03:13
I have a group. 00:03:17
A the on the agenda. 00:03:19
Thank you. 00:03:22
478-B. 00:03:26
Commissioner. 00:03:29
Commissioner Wilson. Chair Fischer. 00:03:33
All right, request. 00:03:35
Mr. Analog, come up and discuss. 00:03:40
The approval of safety net care and indigent health care claims. 00:03:43
Chairman Fisher Commissioners got analytical health care assistance. 00:03:49
Program Manager. 00:03:52
Once again. 00:03:54
I do not have any client to present. 00:03:55
This month they did not send me anything. 00:03:58
That is amazing. 00:04:02
You don't have any explanation for that, I guess. 00:04:07
Sir, I do not. 00:04:10
OK. Do you have a some ground figures on what we have in the pools? 00:04:12
Number tonight I I have my total indigent claim money. 00:04:18
200,000 I do believe. 00:04:24
I did do an. 00:04:27
Indigent Cremation. 00:04:29
Other than that, we're looking, we're looking good. 00:04:32
Thank you, Sir. I appreciate that. 00:04:37
So the next is the approval of Fire Protection Fund applications from Lincoln County Volunteer Fire Departments. 00:04:43
Aaron, I guess I have a few questions if you don't mind. 00:04:56
Good morning. 00:05:02
So. 00:05:04
I guess. 00:05:07
The general question that I have. 00:05:08
Because I I'm sure just because I don't understand it. 00:05:10
A number of the volunteer party departments have a lot of money they're rolling over. 00:05:15
What's #1. 00:05:20
And then and then on top of that. 00:05:22
The request. 00:05:25
From one fire department to the next, you know they buried, right? They were. 00:05:27
Can you? 00:05:31
Illuminate why. 00:05:32
We have these rollovers and what is there a plan for their distribution? 00:05:35
That's the second question. And then the third question is. 00:05:40
How do we put together a plan? 00:05:43
Who's doing that and under what circumstances? 00:05:45
Is the Commissioner. 00:05:49
Or Chairman Fisher. 00:05:50
So the reason that the. 00:05:54
Differ is based on their ISO. 00:05:55
So each department ISO score. 00:05:58
Dictates how much money the state will give them. 00:06:01
So. 00:06:04
It's a predetermined amount, which is usually lower than what the department actually receives. 00:06:05
Which is marked on the second page. 00:06:11
That is the. 00:06:16
The phase amount that that department will receive from the state. 00:06:18
These applications are pretty much just a formality saying that yes, we're requesting Fire Protection fund. I don't know why any 00:06:22
fire department in the state wouldn't. 00:06:26
But this is basically just the formality of us asking for it. 00:06:30
OK. So as far as their rollovers go? 00:06:34
The departments are able to roll over funds. 00:06:37
Instead of use it or lose it kind of thing. 00:06:39
And they use those funds to do things such as building extensions, purchase new apparatus. 00:06:42
Things like that. 00:06:48
And as far as the plans go, the Chiefs usually put together those plans so. 00:06:49
The Needle Fire Department, for example, wants to buy a new rescue truck. That is what they're saving up their rollover funds for. 00:06:54
Chief Baldwin is out obtaining those quotes, talking with vendors. 00:07:01
Doing that kind of stuff, he's the one that's building that plan to purchase that new. 00:07:05
Keep that right. Yeah, that's great. 00:07:08
So I I fully understand the delta between ISO scores and. 00:07:10
Or classifications and how much money there that's available. 00:07:15
But even. 00:07:19
I think if you look at. 00:07:20
The ones that are at six, are they all the same in terms of what they're asking for from the fire Marshall? 00:07:22
So they should be, yes. 00:07:28
All the ISO class sixes should be the same. 00:07:30
That is a an amount that is set for the State Fire Marshals office. 00:07:33
Further ISO scores. 00:07:39
So the only two that should be different would be. 00:07:42
The amount also varies based on the number of stations they have. 00:07:48
And the. 00:07:55
The difference between main stations and substations. 00:07:56
So if you do see a difference in any of the ISO classics departments, it's going to be just based on the number of stations. 00:08:01
You know, I just. 00:08:13
And just was thinking. 00:08:14
So we're right now we're looking for. 00:08:15
Money for. 00:08:18
The firefighting training center, right. 00:08:19
We've got some. 00:08:22
Irons in the fire, we've not gotten much back yet in terms of commitment. 00:08:23
But it seems to me. 00:08:29
That when you look at the amount of rollover in there and I don't, I didn't do the math, but it's, you know, you're well above a 00:08:31
million, you're almost 2 million. 00:08:36
Plus right for rollovers. 00:08:41
One to imagine. 00:08:45
That they could they could buy their own firefighting training center. 00:08:47
With that money? 00:08:50
Yes, Sir. 00:08:53
So there is a rule that prevents them from mixing fire funds. I'd have to talk with the state Fire Marshall's office to see if 00:08:54
they would allow us to kind of pull money together. It would be. 00:09:00
At their leisure, if you will, if they would allow us to do that. And then I can always pose that question to the Chiefs and see 00:09:05
if they would be willing to. 00:09:09
I am not interested. 00:09:14
As a Commissioner. 00:09:16
In directing. 00:09:18
And I can't. 00:09:19
Direct what the chief do. 00:09:20
They're independent. 00:09:22
Our volunteers, we want them to have that independence. 00:09:24
But it might be helpful. 00:09:28
And they might support. 00:09:30
Underwriting that act. 00:09:32
That activity in that effort. 00:09:33
Absolutely. And I would be willing to say that a few of them would definitely be willing to pitch in as long as the State Fire 00:09:35
Marshall's office would allow him to kind of put those monies together. 00:09:39
And I can, I can ask all of them. We'll have them as a collective group later this week. And so I can ask them if they would all 00:09:45
be willing to do that. 00:09:48
See how much they would be willing to. 00:09:52
To put forth for that. 00:09:55
Well, it's just, it's just a thought. 00:09:57
Yes, Sir, I'd like to know where they stand up. 00:09:59
I mean, our desire is to get grants for it, right? 00:10:02
Absolutely. And that's what we're looking for. But. 00:10:05
One could imagine. 00:10:08
That that they might be able to help out too. 00:10:10
Because it will help. 00:10:12
Health and trading so. 00:10:13
And on, on and on. 00:10:15
I was really. I'll get an answer on that for you. 00:10:17
OK. I I think thank you. 00:10:23
So the next one is. 00:10:25
7 Echo Approval Plumbing and Apex contract with Ventura Plumbing Heating. 00:10:33
Cooling. 00:10:37
Who do we have to represent? 00:10:40
That's one there. 00:10:41
I guess no one. 00:10:45
Now I'd like to put on my county manager at. 00:10:46
So if you if you go to. 00:10:51
That part of your. 00:10:55
There were some questions. 00:11:01
That, uh. 00:11:04
This is ridiculous. I'm I'm. 00:11:07
County Commissioner. 00:11:10
The chairman. 00:11:12
And in some respects, I'm glad to fulfill the county manager show up. 00:11:14
Probably not doing any of the three justice. 00:11:18
So bear with me. 00:11:21
But if you look at the. 00:11:23
First contract. 00:11:27
Says Master Plumber $140. 00:11:33
For our journeyman 135 per hour. 00:11:36
And then we looked at. 00:11:42
Right underneath here and this is Page 1 of 10. 00:11:44
Looking at. 00:11:47
We look at the cost plus 45% markup below 2000. 00:11:49
And 25% marked up above 2000 and then mileage and travel with 300. 00:11:55
Dollars at a fixed rate. 00:12:00
I I quite frankly am not. 00:12:04
Happy with? 00:12:06
The rates, are there any comments here from the Commission? 00:12:08
I'm not happy to raise you. 00:12:12
Evaluate this. 00:12:18
Yeah, it needs to be, I think renegotiated in life with you. 00:12:19
Any other comments? 00:12:22
I just don't understand the. 00:12:24
Large difference on the. 00:12:26
The HVAC contract their mileage. 00:12:28
There's a fixed rate. 00:12:31
Also for 100. 00:12:32
Right, I would agree with that. I hadn't moved to that. 00:12:35
On yet, but you're quite right, I would have said the same thing. 00:12:38
And yeah, Journeyman 110, Apprentice 110, there's no delta in the in the rate. 00:12:43
Cost plus 35% markup is is pretty stiff when you're adding. 00:12:50
Mileage on top of that. So my assumption is that. 00:12:55
It's mileage. 00:12:58
To go to the store wherever you're getting the material. 00:13:00
Buying the materials and you're adding 35% on top of that. 00:13:03
It's a cascading. 00:13:07
Issue. 00:13:10
So. 00:13:12
From my my standpoint. 00:13:14
From the position that I sit at. 00:13:17
County Manager, I recommend this approval. 00:13:19
For both these contracts and this proving negotiations. 00:13:26
One second. 00:13:29
That's my recommendation that we do have a motion. 00:13:32
Make a motion to approve the plumbing and extract. 00:13:37
Contractors for the point of view. 00:13:40
RP24-205-4. 00:13:43
And RFP 24-205-5. 00:13:46
Give me a second. 00:13:50
2nd. 00:13:52
Any discussion? 00:13:53
Madam Clerk, roll call, please. 00:14:00
Commissioner Chavez. 00:14:02
No, Commissioner Wilson, Yes. 00:14:03
Commissioner Serna. 00:14:06
No, Commissioner Prather. 00:14:07
No, Chair Fisher. 00:14:09
Nay, motion fails 41. 00:14:12
OK, we'll go to 8. 00:14:18
For the finance Clinton County treasure. 00:14:21
Madam Treasure Huddleston, you have the day. 00:14:24
Or the floor, as it were. 00:14:29
OK. Sorry, Chair. 00:14:34
You have to finish conference. 00:14:36
CD. 00:14:38
Thank you. 00:14:43
So I need a motion to approve the consent agenda. 00:14:47
CD and E. 00:14:51
Hey, Cortana. 00:15:09
Commissioner Chavez. 00:15:10
Commissioner, prevail. 00:15:11
Aye, Commissioner Wilson, Chair Fisher. 00:15:13
All right. So, so I do have a question, maybe it's parliamentary. 00:15:15
I mean we we probably should have or are thinking. 00:15:21
Approve E. 00:15:25
As part of the consent agenda. 00:15:28
And then we disprove it. 00:15:31
And emotion. Is that true or I'm overthinking it? 00:15:32
Mr. Chair, I think how you did it's fine, OK. 00:15:35
I think that. 00:15:38
Yeah, it's. 00:15:39
Handled both ways OK. Thank you Hon. 00:15:42
All right, let's move on to a. 00:15:47
Thank you. 00:15:49
Good morning, Chair Fisher, Commissioner Sherry Huddleston, Lincoln County. 00:15:52
Providing an update on activities within the Treasurer's office and reviewing the financial report for the most. 00:15:57
March 31st, 2025. 00:16:03
Fresher's Financial report, March 31st, 2025. 00:16:06
Page 1. General Funds. 00:16:10
Line 401. 00:16:12
The General Fund Union balance of the March 31st. 00:16:14
Is $13,856,580.75. 00:16:17
Compared to 15.3 million at the same time last year. 00:16:22
General Fund Receipt, Page 3. 00:16:28
This section provides a breakdown of general fund revenue accounts with budgeted. 00:16:30
Projected. Budgeted. 00:16:35
Revenue for two thousand 2425. 00:16:37
Is 18,685,801 dollars. 00:16:40
As of March 31st, we have collected 69% of those revenues. 00:16:44
Investment fund balances. 00:16:50
And bank reconciliation, page 14. 00:16:52
The average percentage rate of investments for March 2025 is as follows. Local Government Investment Pool 4.3382%. 00:16:56
CD's 4.33%. 00:17:06
Many market accounts 3.58%. 00:17:08
Operational Account. 00:17:12
2.175%. 00:17:13
Interest earned. 00:17:15
To date for the general fund. 00:17:17
IS 1,000,000. 00:17:19
$4127.88 We're doing very well on interest 30. 00:17:21
Total cash held by. 00:17:27
The treasurer's office. 00:17:28
As of March 31st, 2025 was $60,179,299.07. 00:17:29
I have provided a fund balance report from the Tyler program. 00:17:38
That would be the handout I gave you earlier this morning. 00:17:42
If you look at it, we're just kind of letting you know what it's going to look like. 00:17:46
At the end, the balance of the 60 million. 00:17:51
179 Two, 9907. 00:17:55
It balances to the penny to our triadic program. 00:17:58
So everything in there. 00:18:02
The difference between this report and the report we have in our finance book is that. 00:18:05
They put the. 00:18:10
Transfers in and the transfers out. 00:18:12
Under revenues and expenses, so they're not. 00:18:14
Separated. 00:18:17
But so far everything is going good with Tyler and I have to say half off to Troy because he's been putting in a lot of time and 00:18:19
effort into this, so. 00:18:23
We need to, really. 00:18:27
You know, Troy, kudos for that. 00:18:28
He's worked very hard. Thank you, Troy. Thank you, Troy. 00:18:30
Tax Schedule Maintenance Report, Page 21. 00:18:34
As of March 31st, the Treasurer's office has collected 73.87% of the taxes bill for 2024. 00:18:38
This is consistent with last year's collection. 00:18:45
Of 73.83% at the same time. 00:18:48
Same point in time. 00:18:52
Additional financial highlights. 00:18:54
The remaining pages of the financial report include property tax distribution. 00:18:56
Debt obligation bond payment schedules. 00:19:01
For the Lincoln County Medical Center, the fire department. 00:19:04
Colonial's Mogado Creek Water project. 00:19:07
Do I have any questions yet? 00:19:11
Additionally, I provided A handout summarizing gross receipts tax revenues for the past four years. 00:19:17
Notably, this year's GRT collections are on track to surpass previous years. 00:19:23
With three months remaining in the fiscal year. 00:19:29
Chairman Fisher Commissioners, this concludes my report. I am available to answer any questions you may have. 00:19:33
Thank you. Thank you. 00:19:40
Creek project, What is that? 00:19:48
So that is for the. 00:19:51
Bridge just. 00:19:53
Bridges Fairgrounds. 00:19:55
Oh. 00:19:56
What's going on, Creep? 00:20:02
All right. Thank you. 00:20:06
I think it's quite extraordinary that that. 00:20:09
As long as it is, we initially thought. 00:20:14
I believe it's always the construction work going on for the. 00:20:18
And you know, the debris and everything. So everybody, all the contractors are paying in their GRT. So yeah, that. 00:20:22
Unfortunately, you know, it comes back to us. 00:20:29
That's why I like to hire local contractors. 00:20:35
I'm gonna ask. 00:20:39
So. 00:20:40
So Commissioner Cerner went to Commissioners affiliate. 00:20:42
Yesterday up at the end. 00:20:45
As well as. 00:20:47
Commissioner Prater. 00:20:48
There's something horrifying. 00:20:50
Potentially horrifying. 00:20:52
Was revealed to us on the half the chief conscious outline. 00:20:55
Best you can. 00:21:00
Because it's a confusing. 00:21:01
So. 00:21:05
With the uh. 00:21:07
Governor signing into a House Bill 295. 00:21:08
We have an existing PILT payment agreement with patterns. 00:21:13
Scheduled to commence next year. 00:21:17
But with that bill, it does away with them paying. 00:21:21
Property taxes. 00:21:24
Even when the property is leased to private entities. 00:21:26
So we need to review our existing agreement with them. 00:21:29
To find out. 00:21:34
If this new law is going to undermine the enforceability of our existing. 00:21:36
And see if they have a legal law. 00:21:41
Obligation to continue with that. 00:21:43
I know a lot of school districts are counting on. 00:21:46
Revenue stream and. 00:21:49
So are we. 00:21:52
So we need to. 00:21:53
Get some insight into that and. 00:21:55
If any of the staff can locate that original agreement. 00:21:57
Potentially looking back through Alan Styles and get that over to Michael, that's going to be incredibly helpful. 00:22:01
That we don't have to. 00:22:07
That turns out to be an action item for three guys, right? Look at the agreement. 00:22:09
Look at the legislation and try to figure out whether or not. 00:22:14
Were adversely affected by it. 00:22:17
Either totally or how much. 00:22:19
And Mr. Chair, Commissioner sermon, I'll get with Ellen as well. 00:22:21
See if he has any history on it. 00:22:24
I appreciate that. Thank you. 00:22:26
If you all remember a little bit of history, short history actually, even before I was Commissioner. 00:22:29
There were big plans being made for the expected or anticipated or desired or wish for. 00:22:35
Money, uh. 00:22:41
Coming from that project from the. 00:22:42
The Pill. 00:22:46
And it's not, it's not clear. 00:22:47
Where that's going to be going forward, So that's why. 00:22:49
Being conservative fiscally for sure is important. 00:22:52
I'd like to go move on if there's no other comments. 00:22:57
On the budget. 00:23:00
I'd like to move on to 10 and. 00:23:03
Do we have somebody from the Smokey Bear Arrangement District? 00:23:05
That's great. 00:23:10
Were you planning to deny later? 00:23:14
For you. 00:23:17
Yeah, I guess. 00:23:20
She just walked out, but I guess, yeah, we can do that. 00:23:22
So we've got on #9 if you look at the. 00:23:26
The budget resolution. 00:23:29
And that adjustment? 00:23:41
And you'll see the sale of county property of. 00:23:43
821 dollars I believe that's nothing more than. 00:23:46
The stretcher that was. 00:23:50
No longer needed. 00:23:53
Placed by a newer 1. 00:23:55
And he only got $821.00 for that, which is. 00:23:57
Pretty good. 00:24:00
In a safety net pool. 00:24:01
That particular adjustment I I look forward to. 00:24:05
A motion to approve. 00:24:08
Resolution 2025 Dash 52 Budget adjustment for fiscal year 2425. 00:24:15
7 We'll call. 00:24:21
Mr. Wilson, Commissioner Chavez. 00:24:26
Right. 00:24:32
OK. Thank you. 00:24:34
Move on to 10. 00:24:36
Seeing that there's nobody from the Punky Bear Ranger District. 00:24:38
I'd like to go to Lincoln County MSU Extension services. 00:24:43
Chairman, Commissioners, Melanie. Guitarist, Lincoln County Extensive service. 00:24:47
We've kind of been all over. 00:24:53
We attended senior leadership retreat with five senior level kids. 00:24:56
We did that. 00:25:01
And Gloria? 00:25:03
A weekend? I don't know. You've been everywhere. 00:25:04
We hosted a lamb and goat sale for 4H kids from across the state we had kids from. 00:25:08
Silver City Grant scheming. 00:25:14
All the way down there. 00:25:16
Towards we had some come down from Clayton until we had a lot of kids come. 00:25:18
And do that animals sold fairly well. 00:25:23
I just got back Sunday afternoon. 00:25:27
From Youth Get Away, which is a leadership camp for novice and junior members, so those from like. 00:25:30
3rd grade to 7th grade. 00:25:35
We took 27 kids from the county. We also took 5. 00:25:38
Older senior member kids who served as camp counselors. 00:25:42
And they go through an application process for that to brag on our kids a little bit we had. 00:25:46
20 counselors. 00:25:53
And five were from Lincoln County. 00:25:55
And so I was pretty impressed with that. But what the kids do. 00:25:57
Is they go around to different workshops throughout the day. 00:26:01
The kids learned how to do sutures and animals. 00:26:04
They learn rocket propulsion. 00:26:08
They did some parliamentary procedure. 00:26:11
There's a whole gamut of things that those kids have done. We have about 350 kids across the state attend that event. And so it 00:26:14
was. 00:26:18
It was a large event. There's a lot of moving parts when you haul 20. 00:26:22
Burtwell, 32 Kids. 00:26:26
Up to Oriata camp, so that was that was a big undertaking but everybody had a great time, everybody came back. 00:26:29
Healthy, so that's always good. Usually we have one throw up. 00:26:35
For several girls, but we did good. 00:26:38
We will be helping with the Cowbells AG Day here in Carrizoza coming up on the 1st of May. 00:26:42
We're fixing to start judging practices. 00:26:50
For all the novice, junior and senior members, we're hitting that pretty hard. 00:26:52
We usually do that at the end of May. 00:26:56
1st of June, but with our livestock. 00:26:58
Regional livestock. 00:27:01
Camp coming in. 00:27:02
I'm going to be really busy that week and then the next week we have our. 00:27:04
Lamb and goat jackpot. And so things are fixing to get busy. So it is very much the calm before the storm. 00:27:08
I stand for questions. 00:27:15
We love hearing what's going on. I'm glad to. 00:27:20
Not too many kids got sick. That's. 00:27:23
Yeah, that's yeah. Lots of other ones did, but none of ours. 00:27:24
You you realize that? 00:27:30
The sign that we have at the fairgrounds is now operational. I saw that when I drove by the other day, yes. And so to get stuff 00:27:31
put on there, I get with. 00:27:36
To remind me with you. OK, All right, cool. 00:27:41
OK. All right. 00:27:45
Thank you. Please take advantage of it. 00:27:47
All right, we will. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much. 00:27:49
Mountain. 00:27:57
Or it's not here? 00:28:00
Copper, Honda soil and water conservation industry. 00:28:05
Welcome. 00:28:10
Good morning, Commissioners. 00:28:13
Hey, this is Tony Griffin. I'm the. 00:28:14
District manager with upper Honda. 00:28:16
Soil Water Conservation District. 00:28:19
So a few things that we have going on with you guys, I think we have. 00:28:22
A grant that we have. 00:28:26
Our contractor has started spraying the fire stations in the area in the county and as well as the Senior Center in Hondo. 00:28:29
And still we still have a remaining balance. 00:28:37
He's going to be working on that once firming start to emerge, so that should be complete by the end of June. 00:28:39
We are selling quite a bit of. 00:28:47
Graphs that we have. 00:28:49
In stock and the grass that we have in stock is a full season grass. 00:28:51
We're selling it at cost. 00:28:55
It's $5 a pound and seems to be growing really well in our area so that people from the burn scars and whatnot are coming and 00:28:56
getting that and planning it. 00:29:00
We have Waddle. 00:29:07
Killing stock if we do have some rains coming in and people have erosion problems. 00:29:09
We still have some of those free to the public. 00:29:14
We are working on 2 Louise. 00:29:16
Boy grants with the. 00:29:19
Of the Mexico forestry. 00:29:21
And there's so many remaining. 00:29:23
And one of those I believe they have. 00:29:25
The no Gowling, there's one project left and not that they're working on now, but. 00:29:28
That is still available. That's a 50% cost share though, so, but. 00:29:33
A lot of the bigger projects will go through them. 00:29:37
And of course, we've been really busy with our own cost shares. 00:29:40
We do rainwater harvests. 00:29:43
We do thinning, we help people with with livestock wells and things of that nature. So we've been extremely busy with a lot of 00:29:47
that. So seeing a lot of people and working a lot of that so. 00:29:52
Does anybody have any questions? 00:29:59
Kind of new at this though, so Aaron and his team. 00:30:02
On behalf of the county is trying is putting together. 00:30:08
I'll call it a firewise program. It's more than that. 00:30:12
Have have you been talking about that? 00:30:15
Yes. And we actually, I believe we're going to go visit a lady in Hondo area. 00:30:18
Concerning that. 00:30:24
To do a cost share program with her presenting invasives. 00:30:26
OK, see, it's even more than that, but obviously we need to do more. 00:30:31
So I don't have any more questions. 00:30:35
Could you please put where they need to come and apply and everything? 00:30:38
Yes, so they can apply on our website. 00:30:43
We do have the forms available there. 00:30:46
They can always stop by the office or at the top of Main and Capitan. 00:30:48
Or they can. We will be happy to mail them one a lot of people would rather have. 00:30:52
Truck copies in the mail so they can come to the office one time. 00:30:57
And the way our cost share program works is? 00:31:01
If we pay up to 10,000 dollars, 75% of the project. 00:31:05
So. 00:31:09
Pretty good program. 00:31:11
OK, so it seems to be a poison problem, you know, getting communication out. 00:31:15
Yeah. And so on. So there might be an opportunity to take advantage of the sign as well. So you heard about that earlier, you 00:31:19
know. 00:31:24
Point of contact health and thinning. 00:31:29
No contact 1:00 AM I finally doing a little more community involvement as well? 00:31:31
We're going to be at the Smokey Bear days. 00:31:36
We'll be actually discounting. 00:31:39
Bags of grass. 00:31:41
And selling it there, it will be a dollar. 00:31:42
For 5 lbs of. 00:31:44
We'll have a limit, of course, because we can't hold it all down there, but. 00:31:46
Just to kind of get the word out there. 00:31:49
Well, I don't know if you guys know about the water trailer that we do with the kids, but we'll set that up there and. 00:31:52
And kind of get somewhere else that time. 00:31:57
Yeah. 00:31:59
Thank you. 00:32:03
Hey Cortana, look forward to seeing you next month. 00:32:04
Landrac. 00:32:09
How are you? I'm good, thank you. How are you? 00:32:12
Glad you're here. 00:32:17
Good morning, Chair Fisher and Commissioners Kathy Allison with. 00:32:18
Chair Shepherd said that Senate Bill 5 means that the Senate so quickly. 00:32:24
There really wasn't much opportunity for comment. 00:32:29
He's waiting to see what the cattle growers response will be. 00:32:32
And then we'll couple our response with that. 00:32:36
For those of us not following the numbers so closely, what is that? 00:32:40
Senate Bill 5, Yes. 00:32:44
That was the bill that they passed to. 00:32:46
Change. 00:32:50
They changed the name of the gang Commission. 00:32:54
And they broadened. 00:32:58
Their oversight? 00:33:00
To not just game animals, but. 00:33:02
All animals in general, and you know, which even we're talking about, you know, they could even put the wild horses in there if 00:33:05
they wanted to. So you know. 00:33:09
Overreach of incredible. 00:33:13
Proportions, yes. So we don't know what's going to happen. It's all. 00:33:16
And the reason why this is an issue is because. 00:33:20
If you read the bill. 00:33:24
It doesn't say. What do you do with it? 00:33:26
Basically allows the Game and Fish department the New Mexico Game and Fish. 00:33:28
To designate and have control of virtually any species. 00:33:34
For animal. 00:33:41
Out there and then. 00:33:43
Regulated. 00:33:44
So think of coyotes. Think of. 00:33:46
Gophers. 00:33:50
You know they're dogs. 00:33:52
Wanted to pass today the grazing oil just any anything that goes on on those lands depending on how they were designate things. 00:33:54
Precisely. 00:34:03
So it's it's really bad. 00:34:04
It's really bad. 00:34:06
May have some. 00:34:07
Bad implications and I know very close to this subject. Do you have any comments, Sir? 00:34:09
Nothing at this time. Thank you. 00:34:15
We're going to work on the letter resolution. He's just waiting to see what the cattle grows do. And yeah. 00:34:18
We'd like to. 00:34:24
Be engaged in that, I think as a Commission as well. So let us know what your positions are. 00:34:25
To the Commission and see if the Commission will support something as well. 00:34:31
Sounds good. Appreciate that. 00:34:36
We also have a draft resolution regarding the access to the White Mountain loderiness. 00:34:38
And other state and federal lands for fire mitigation. 00:34:43
And we'll share that with you and we can work. 00:34:47
Together on that, you know, we did some really. 00:34:50
Good wording on that. We just need to work. 00:34:52
Work through as a committee that. 00:34:55
Fine tune it before we get it to you, but. 00:34:57
Well, not part of our discussion is. 00:35:00
If we want to do a broad reach. 00:35:03
Requesting more access. 00:35:06
To all federal lands for if we want to make it more specific. 00:35:08
To the county and create a template that other. 00:35:13
Counties and communities could utilize also that. 00:35:16
You know they could in my opinion if you do a really broad reaching. 00:35:19
Something it just makes it more complicated if it's specific to our area and we. 00:35:24
With them our statistics. 00:35:28
It's a good stepping stone and obviously, you know, if you change something for one. 00:35:30
Then you can look at changing it for everybody. 00:35:35
Sounds like a good approach. 00:35:38
Working on it. 00:35:40
Anything else? 00:35:42
We're delving back in the Belanges plan and. 00:35:44
I've started. We've started as. 00:35:48
And outlined for drought planning. 00:35:50
And you know, we're looking at right now, we're in the driest month and the driest year over. 00:35:53
Past 131 years. 00:36:00
So I think we're all very aware of. 00:36:02
The challenges ahead of us so. 00:36:05
I'm going to coordinate with the interview. I was traveling so I did not get with. 00:36:08
Gentleman interview on a water budget. 00:36:13
But I'm going to go over there and talk to them and see the OSCE has some great. 00:36:16
Drought plants and everything that Lincoln County doesn't have one specific. 00:36:21
Sorry, area SO. 00:36:25
We're endeavoring in that. So, so are you, are you aware of what's going on on the two Elrosa Basin? 00:36:27
Water Study. 00:36:34
You know, I was involved. 00:36:37
Years ago and a lot of the planning and there's one ongoing right there I am not. 00:36:39
OK, I'll get with you later. 00:36:44
What we're also trying to do for uproar. 00:36:46
Upper Hondo. 00:36:48
Water basin as well. 00:36:50
And Doctor Sam Fernald. 00:36:52
From Mecca State. 00:36:55
Is very interested in starting. 00:36:57
A study on water budget water budget being. 00:36:59
Taking as much out. 00:37:02
What's coming in? How's it regenerate? 00:37:04
So those are those are important for our planning in the future. 00:37:07
One comment I would say. 00:37:11
If we're in the worst drought. 00:37:13
And 131 years as recorded. 00:37:15
What does that mean? That we're probably going to get better? 00:37:18
At what point? At what point is bad bad and you end up. 00:37:22
Coming out of itself. 00:37:26
Just the food for thought for those of that. 00:37:28
Or Debbie Downers. 00:37:30
Contributes of anxiety for sure. I was actually. 00:37:31
Involved in the New Mexico tech in the Aquifer mapping project. 00:37:36
That went through Lincoln County, all the way out to Cloudcroft and then out to Katherine County. 00:37:41
And was in Ruidoso when we did. 00:37:46
Was very involved with that. Also Sandia has a small business program. 00:37:50
And many years ago. 00:37:54
There's a water model for me though, so. 00:37:56
And so that is on our list for the drought planning. 00:37:58
To look at, you know, potentially going back to San Diego and doing some modeling for the county. 00:38:02
So I will get with Sam. I think you know, we have. 00:38:07
That's the strong background of that. And I just came back. I drove back from North Carolina, so. 00:38:10
We're still trying to play catch up. 00:38:16
Well, that's, that's good. No, that's, that's very good. So, so just again. 00:38:19
The county has been very active. 00:38:23
Trying to propel. 00:38:26
Efforts to thin out. 00:38:28
The Forest. 00:38:29
Both state and federal. 00:38:31
And then and that goes hand in glove with some of our fire. 00:38:33
Remediation efforts. 00:38:37
Wildfire remediation so. 00:38:39
And I don't try them in order. 00:38:42
Right, No fires, no burns. Fires, less flooding. 00:38:43
Better percolation on fuel and straws. 00:38:46
More water going in the ground so it all works together. 00:38:50
Just keep that in mind. Thank you. Yeah, we've already worked a lot of it in there. I think it'd be really pleased with what we've 00:38:53
done. It just wasn't polished enough to. 00:38:57
Bring it to y'all, to the Hickson. 00:39:01
Thank you. Any other questions? Thank you. 00:39:03
Sarnand, thank you, ma'am, very much appreciate you being here. 00:39:06
Yes, thank you. 00:39:10
I'm going to move around a little bit. 00:39:15
Warden Castleton was unable to make it at a personal. 00:39:17
Tragedy in his family. 00:39:22
And I don't see. 00:39:24
Yeah, I do. 00:39:25
Wonderful. 00:39:27
The 20 ladies are going to report. 00:39:29
Thank you, ma'am. 00:39:31
Please take your name on the podium and. 00:39:32
Update please. 00:39:36
Chairman, Commissioners, good morning. My name is Aisha Smith and I am the Chief of Security Advisor and Detention Center. 00:39:41
I am signing in for wooden Castleton and Bethany Wardens Hope. 00:39:49
The report on the detention center. 00:39:53
So as of. 00:39:56
April 1st. 00:39:58
Up until today, we have. 00:40:00
29 agents. 00:40:01
What 49 releases? 00:40:03
Our signing count today is 60. 00:40:05
With 47 females 13. 00:40:08
47 medals, 13 females and we have 14 VI 8. 00:40:11
We are currently high enough for two food service officers. 00:40:16
Two correctional officers, 1 Lieutenant and two rights. 00:40:20
Individuals. 00:40:24
Right now we are currently paying the facilities we have started on it and we are more than halfway completed. We are looking at 00:40:27
completing all of the painting by the start of next week. 00:40:33
Her eyes have made connections with Eastern New Mexico University and years also. 00:40:40
With three DP starting the reentry programming. 00:40:47
And soon they will start their GED classes. 00:40:50
And that's about all I have to report. Thank you. 00:40:54
I do have a question. I thought the Mescalero tribe was. 00:40:57
Opening up there. 00:41:02
Detention facility. 00:41:03
And they are. So the last that we heard is that they were looking for funding and they are hiring. So they're given a start date 00:41:05
of. 00:41:08
Around September for opening up. 00:41:12
To housing. 00:41:15
So we might lose. 00:41:17
You know that. 00:41:19
Yeah, that population sometime in the fall. 00:41:20
Any questions, Commission. 00:41:25
Thank you very much ma'am, doing a good job. Appreciate you coming next time. 00:41:27
Thank you. 00:41:33
Appreciate you. 00:41:35
Let's go to 14 because I'm trying to. 00:41:37
Take advantage of the time now so that we. 00:41:40
So. 00:41:46
Mr. You. 00:41:48
Welcome. 00:41:49
Thank you, Chairman Fisher County Commissioners, Todd Overview Hospital Chief Executive, Lincoln County Medical Center. Just quick 00:41:51
rundown of things. 00:41:54
We did at our MASH camp after I met with you. We brought in Capitan, so it was very exciting. I think we had 16 kids from Captain 00:41:58
that attended the event. 00:42:03
We have Ruidoso coming up here in a week. 00:42:08
And so I'm very excited about MASH camp and hopefully we'll have some. 00:42:12
Great future health care workers out of that so. 00:42:15
Please say that Lindsey Patton has completed the boards and she'll be starting Catan here probably within about a month month and 00:42:20
1/2. So they'll have Suzanne and Lindsey will be have cancelled would be. 00:42:25
We've had an opens there. 00:42:30
With Suzanne, but Lindsey will be taking that full time spot so excited about that. Lindsey though is a Lincoln County native. She 00:42:33
grew up here her dad for those you all been around as Dave Nolteyer who was a long time C RNA at the hospital. 00:42:40
So anyway, so glad to have her on board. 00:42:47
From that standpoint. 00:42:50
Joe Bird, who we had hired for Corona, we've expanded her duty. She's going to start working also with Doctor Sunderman at the 00:42:51
hospital and help supplement the cardiology practice at the hospital. 00:42:57
And she'll also be working a little bit in the emergency room too. So roadside about having Joe on, I think she's just going to be 00:43:04
a great addition for us. 00:43:08
CT is going well. Finally we got our breaker box out of Mexico. I don't know if that was the. 00:43:13
The tariffs or what the issue was? 00:43:19
I only got a breaker box, so we're going to give them the CT wired in now, so we should have that. 00:43:22
Sooner than later, let's say so at that point. 00:43:27
And women we the construction of the woman's clinic is progressing. 00:43:30
Now we're able to focus mostly energies on the women's clinic, so we'll have that I think within. 00:43:34
Sooner or later too, so. 00:43:39
Real excited this last week. Presbyterian holds a leadership event that they bring in all the board members from each one of the 00:43:42
entities is within the press system. 00:43:46
And does a kind of educational program for them. 00:43:52
During that event, LCMC was awarded a first time award that's been created by Presbyterian called the Mrs. Van Award. And not to 00:43:55
go on too much history, but Mrs. Van was kind of the. 00:44:01
Core Presbyterian from the very beginning. 00:44:06
She joined Presbyterian. Her actually brought her husband out here because of tuberculosis, which is how Presbyterians started out 00:44:10
here. 00:44:13
And when her husband passed away, she stayed on and kind of became. 00:44:17
Or Presbyterian. Presbyterian this award this year. 00:44:21
The Mrs. Van Award and LCMC was the first recipient for it and the reason for that was really the efforts and work of the staff 00:44:26
during the fire. 00:44:29
And the floods and I think we talked about so many of my staff lost their homes and different things during that. They were still 00:44:34
work. 00:44:37
I mean, just just amazing and so. 00:44:41
Press recognize that and awarded the the the staff at LCMC this award. 00:44:43
And last thing, just tell you, we just finished our employee engagement survey. We switched back the press gaming we've been 00:44:48
using. We used to use press gaming, We switched to our testing, we called that press game, which I personally like. I think it's 00:44:52
better metric. 00:44:56
And our initial back investigation, the 74 percentile nationwide of of healthcare facilities as far as employee engagement and 00:45:00
satisfaction. 00:45:05
So very pleased about that. So and and think things are going well. 00:45:10
So I will stand for any questions have for me and and working on the mill levy budget. So we'll have that briefly much longer so 00:45:14
too. 00:45:18
That's about it. 00:45:22
Yeah, 22 notes. 00:45:24
$650,000. 00:45:26
For basically an ambulance. 00:45:28
Building. 00:45:31
Cares though. 00:45:33
So obviously we have to start working on that and make sure. 00:45:34
When we can get that money, we actually put it good use. 00:45:37
The other piece is we. 00:45:41
You kind of have a question mark about the current location. I know we promised you that we had a deal. 00:45:43
That promise was predicated on. 00:45:48
The other person. 00:45:50
The owner. 00:45:52
Honoring that promise, right? So right now it's a little bit up in the air, but we're working that. 00:45:53
And we'll get back to you and. 00:45:58
Try to make sure that that's solidified. 00:46:01
OK, German fisheries, they won't do to help with that. Just let us know, we'd be happy to. 00:46:04
To help you in women can so we appreciate that we're going to ask for help. 00:46:08
Thank you, Sir. 00:46:16
Any questions? 00:46:17
OK, Sir, thank you all for your relief. 00:46:20
Appreciate it. 00:46:24
I'm not sure where I want to go right now. 00:46:37
There's no lobbyist update. 00:46:40
They're in a quiet period right now. 00:46:42
They think they're adopted over with. It isn't the campaign of. 00:46:45
But. 00:46:49
I think what we could do is. 00:47:08
Is is talk about? 00:47:10
Senior Center, ICP. 00:47:15
And then we've got 15 minutes for that. Is that enough time you think? 00:47:17
OK. Can we can talk about that now? 00:47:20
Thank you, ma'am. Good morning, Commissioner. Chairman Fisher. 00:47:25
Program Director. 00:47:29
What I've given you on. 00:47:33
A plan for the ICIP Our. 00:47:36
Date to submit is coming up in May. 00:47:40
But we won't meet. 00:47:43
You won't meet. 00:47:44
Until, but before then again before this. So what it is, it's every year we do a. 00:47:46
Planned with life just like you do, but this is just focused on senior citizen centers. 00:47:51
I do have. As you can see I have. 00:47:56
Kind of giving you a basic plan for captain character and register downs. 00:47:58
Equipment, things that are capital outlay will be requesting. 00:48:04
For those things this year we did submit application for kitchen equipment capital can. 00:48:09
A lot of times what we do is we look at what we. 00:48:15
Think is the. 00:48:17
That's the most important. 00:48:18
To put forth to the state. 00:48:20
And so that would be the one this year. 00:48:22
Look like it was going to be. 00:48:24
The the most important, we do have the backup generators listed on. 00:48:26
I know you all had talked about doing the backup generators yourselves, and that's fine. 00:48:29
I do have them listed online and had them on there for several years already. 00:48:33
But. 00:48:37
They're not when it comes time to do capital outlay. 00:48:38
They're usually one of the ones that kind of gets pushed back to the back, but. 00:48:41
We would be very happy for you all to put them on yours. 00:48:45
If that one would work for you, but I do still have them online. 00:48:48
And it just looks better when I have them on mine. If you're going out for them also. 00:48:52
And it looks like we're coordinating. I think that's perfect and we know why we need those things that. 00:48:56
The emergency, those right back centers, you have food. 00:49:02
What is the meaning of heating and so forth? 00:49:06
And so most everything else is either kitchen equipment, facility improvements, and facility improvements would include anything. 00:49:09
You know when I go into more detail into the application form. 00:49:15
And talks about what we need like. 00:49:19
Whether we are needing some structural. 00:49:21
Like if there's roofs or you know, anything like that that needs to be addressed at that particular center. 00:49:23
Building improvements also would be like. 00:49:29
If you have some renovations like a. 00:49:31
In Reno's Downs, right at this moment, we would love to get in there and do a little renovation in the kitchen. 00:49:33
Area to kind of make a half wall behind some of their equipment. 00:49:38
That kind is in the middle of the room. 00:49:42
So it just adds a safety feature. 00:49:44
There's a few other things that we would like to do. The Fire Marshall has really been. 00:49:46
You know, going through all the buildings and looking at stuff and there are a few of our. 00:49:50
Fire systems that need to be updated, he has given us. 00:49:53
Some opportunities to. 00:49:57
Look at do updating them now. 00:49:59
And so we've been working with Yucca Fire. 00:50:01
To see about what we're going to need. I know Cap can. 00:50:03
I need staff and work done on theirs. 00:50:06
And uh. 00:50:08
Corona, he's gone to Corona also, and Corona is a little more extensive because it's an older system. 00:50:10
And I don't need some more work done on it also. 00:50:15
Also, as you can look further down, we do have. 00:50:18
I took most of the spots that are blank right there. 00:50:21
Or because we move things up. 00:50:24
We were asking for vehicles. 00:50:25
Transportation and mail delivery vehicles which have been funded. 00:50:27
And we've already received most of them. So that kind of leaves a gap. 00:50:30
And some of the other places will move things up. 00:50:34
We do live still have a transportation vehicle that will be needing at Capitan later on. 00:50:37
And a meal delivery vehicle later on. 00:50:42
Or reducing downs because the big hotshot truck they have there right now is. 00:50:44
We bought it in 2017. 00:50:50
So in a stadium, a lot of miles on heaven. 00:50:52
A large delivery area. 00:50:56
So that one will have to be replaced, probably at least by 2030. 00:50:58
And that's giving it 13 years. 00:51:02
So at least it's on here. 00:51:04
So we have it ready. So anytime that it's on there and as we go from year to year, we can adjust where it's at and what priority 00:51:06
is. 00:51:10
If it becomes a. 00:51:14
Higher priority. 00:51:15
Then that we will print the adjustments. 00:51:16
But this is basically what we're looking for. 00:51:18
And I do need a resolution. 00:51:21
They make you support the plan. 00:51:23
And that I have the. 00:51:25
With permission to to submit. 00:51:27
Any questions? 00:51:33
So. So this is a different. 00:51:36
Process and what we go. 00:51:38
Through with the county is there is there a? 00:51:40
Chairman Fisher, this is a little. 00:51:44
A different as far as like. 00:51:46
We do ours. 00:51:48
We had in advancing what you do yours 2731 will also be yours coming up due. 00:51:48
But what we do is. 00:51:54
We've already put in for 26 already. 00:51:55
QR capital out to the states. 00:51:57
And they will review it. It goes through. It's real strict. 00:51:59
Evaluation process. 00:52:02
And then they will bring it through it, whatever it goes through their system, then they'll add it to their package and it'll go 00:52:04
to. 00:52:07
For next year. 00:52:10
So we start a lot earlier than you all do. 00:52:11
And ours is funded. Ours goes into the aging and long term services department. 00:52:14
Before it goes anywhere else, do you have any insight as to how? 00:52:18
Likely you are to get. 00:52:23
Steve Simmons. 00:52:25
Chairman Fisher of YES. 00:52:28
Usually if it is. 00:52:30
They score it on a certain thing, and most usually if it is. 00:52:33
Well thought out well. 00:52:37
Presented it will be funded. 00:52:38
You know, unless. 00:52:40
Vetoes them. Usually they go through. 00:52:43
Pretty, pretty good for the senior centers, Yeah, I'm looking forward to. 00:52:45
To a positive. 00:52:49
Decision on the generators this time. 00:52:51
There's something we can do to kind of push that. I appreciate you letting us know. 00:52:55
Phone calls, Letters. 00:52:59
Emails, whatever. 00:53:01
Keep that on on my radar. Yes Sir, I'm ready. 00:53:03
Thank you. Thank you very much. There's no questions. I will entertain a motion for the resolution. 00:53:06
Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve. 00:53:15
The resolution point 25-55 adopted 27 to 31. 00:53:17
I need a second. 00:53:25
Commissioner Travis. 00:53:35
Aye, Commissioner, Second. 00:53:38
Hi, Commissioner Fraser. 00:53:39
Aye. 00:53:43
Thank you. Imagine. Thank you very much. 00:53:45
What does? 00:53:50
All right, we're getting close, aren't we? 00:53:56
Right there. 00:54:03
Let's talk briefly with this. 00:54:06
About discussion. 00:54:09
Let's talk about. 00:54:11
Grant Writers. 00:54:15
Just want to get your feeling. 00:54:18
On this. 00:54:21
Who are Batista from the spas? 00:54:23
Have been trying to get up to. 00:54:25
Take advantage. 00:54:27
So Bundy has. 00:54:29
Available. 00:54:32
There's a lot of grants up here that we. 00:54:36
We don't take advantage of because we don't have. 00:54:39
We'll have a grant. 00:54:42
Right. Or we don't have someone to pursue those. 00:54:43
And then to follow up on it. 00:54:46
So. 00:54:53
We've got I sent out. 00:55:00
A resume from someone that. 00:55:02
In that position. 00:55:04
I don't know if you all had an opportunity to visit. 00:55:06
But. 00:55:10
My thoughts on that particular. 00:55:11
Person was that. 00:55:15
She was extraordinarily. 00:55:16
Qualified. 00:55:20
But I had some question about the amount of time she could devote. 00:55:21
To the effort. 00:55:25
So I I. 00:55:27
I think I'd like to. What I'd like to do is. 00:55:28
Is hold on at any decision on that particular process right now? 00:55:31
And reevaluate other candidates that might be available, but we should move. 00:55:36
Quickly. 00:55:41
Because we have to obligate that grant. 00:55:43
Before the end of May. 00:55:46
Which doesn't give us much time. 00:55:47
But otherwise that money will revert back to the state. 00:55:50
So. 00:55:54
I will make an effort next week to provide you some other alternatives that we could actually consider. 00:55:56
More seriousness, does that make sense? 00:56:01
Yes, I've got a couple of questions, Mr. Chairman. 00:56:05
So I did see the job description that you put in our packet. 00:56:07
Is this a full time position that we're looking at or a part composition? 00:56:11
Originally. 00:56:15
Based on. 00:56:17
Based on. 00:56:18
Our understanding of the grant and the amount. 00:56:20
Would be a part-time position. 00:56:22
My my desire is not to. 00:56:25
Hire another position you know in our. 00:56:29
And our county government for that. But. 00:56:32
That might be worth it. 00:56:35
Discussion A follow on discussion at some point. 00:56:36
But yeah, currently. 00:56:41
Hard times when you look at what? 00:56:43
What's in here? 00:56:45
One could imagine it being a full time position. Is that is that your? 00:56:46
Right, I just wanted to. 00:56:50
Differentiate. From my understanding, yeah, it would be. 00:56:51
To take advantage of the grant. 00:56:56
It would either be part time. 00:56:58
For a longer time. 00:57:00
Our full time for a shorter time. 00:57:03
But it's based on what their money is available. 00:57:06
Right. And so to follow up on that the grant. 00:57:08
And excuse me for another. 00:57:11
Don't forward but the depth point. 00:57:12
Fully there's a link, there's no. 00:57:15
No match, and in fact. 00:57:17
The cloud would actually. 00:57:20
Handle paying the the individual they they would take care of that. 00:57:23
With the wouldn't be a pass through, we wouldn't have. 00:57:26
Necessarily a fiscal responsibility with that person. 00:57:29
They essentially be working for the club on our behalf. 00:57:32
And it's and it's available for up to a year. 00:57:35
Is that it's available till. 00:57:37
It'll be obligated, but yeah, it would work free. 00:57:40
For as long as that money would last, but that money has to be obligated as I understand it. 00:57:44
Before. 00:57:49
For the end of May. 00:57:50
OK. So someone could imagine, Yeah, it would be a year. So maybe, maybe half time for a year. 00:57:52
You could think about that way. 00:57:58
Maybe there's an opportunity to combine other monies that. 00:58:01
That made sense. 00:58:04
I think. 00:58:06
You know, once we looked at what we're really looking for, this is, this is a grant writer. 00:58:07
But it's also a grant administrator. 00:58:12
It's also a project manager all wrapped up in one. 00:58:14
And that's more than what? 00:58:18
That money that's available. 00:58:20
Will support. 00:58:22
So I. 00:58:24
We we need to do more on that, but I did want to bring it up just to get your. 00:58:26
Intellectual juice is flowing a little bit, thinking about what might be available what? 00:58:30
The possibilities are. 00:58:34
And if at all all it was was just somebody part time for a while. 00:58:37
In fact, that's all we can do. 00:58:41
OK, so. 00:58:42
I guess we're at, we're at 9:30. I keep looking at that clock and I'm being. 00:58:44
Misguided every time. 00:58:49
So it is 9:30. We're open up for public discussion. 00:58:51
Go around with the commissioners and then the elected. 00:58:56
The Sheriff's Office. 00:58:59
Please. 00:59:05
Commissioner, sorry, do you have any anything? 00:59:06
Start us off with. 00:59:09
Yeah, sure. Good morning. It's been a busy 30 days. 00:59:11
I attended. 00:59:14
Last week, the SMED quarterly board meeting in RAW as well. 00:59:16
They had a huge announcement that CDBG grants would be. 00:59:21
Available this year. 00:59:25
And they're not going to be requiring a match. 00:59:27
And they? 00:59:30
Will not have a cap on the amount that we can request. Previously was 750,000. 00:59:32
And so this is. 00:59:37
Huge. So we need to start moving on that. 00:59:39
Get our public hearings. 00:59:42
Done. I know I have my. 00:59:44
Personal priority with. 00:59:46
Our failing bridges. 00:59:49
And we're compromised, I should say. 00:59:51
And so that money could be utilized for that, I think. 00:59:54
Would be very helpful. 00:59:58
In addition to that. 01:00:01
We were notified that we. 01:00:04
Have received the Southwest Region Economic Development Association Star of the Southwest award. 01:00:07
This group is. 01:00:15
Made-up of Arkansas, Louisiana. 01:00:16
New Mexico, Oklahoma and Texas. And so that was based on our EDA grant. 01:00:19
Or the fairgrounds and those improvements and. 01:00:25
It demonstrates how we're able to use it not only for economic development but in times of. 01:00:31
Emergencies for the evacuation Center for the animals. 01:00:37
And so on. May the 8th. 01:00:41
The county will be receiving that award at their quarterly. 01:00:43
Their annual conference. 01:00:48
We're going to send reps down. 01:00:50
To represent the county because it's a big deal, Yeah. So. 01:00:54
And we also attended the CDBG disaster. 01:00:59
Grant meeting and that's going to be. 01:01:04
Incredible for. 01:01:07
Those that were specifically impacted by last year's natural disasters. 01:01:09
They have set aside 100. 01:01:15
$1,000,000 I believe right for housing. 01:01:18
And that. 01:01:21
That's a huge opportunity because. 01:01:23
There isn't an income. You don't have to just lower to moderate income. 01:01:25
Individuals and so that opportunity is going to. 01:01:30
Be very impactful to those still trying to rebuild. 01:01:34
And there's no match there either. And so there's a lot of moving parts we. 01:01:40
Did move forward with an offer for a new HR manager and so. 01:01:44
We have an anticipation start date of April the 28th and so we're really looking forward to. 01:01:48
Adding to our small hard working team here at the courthouse and. 01:01:54
I think she'll be a huge asset for us. 01:01:58
And today is a big day for us. We are interviewing for county managers. 01:02:01
Manager position is so I know that. 01:02:07
Everyone looking forward to that. 01:02:10
How are you? Thank you. 01:02:13
Thank you very much. 01:02:15
What's your predator please? 01:02:18
I'll yield my time. 01:02:19
Mr. Travis, I'll do one more time. 01:02:22
As we like. Thank you, Chairman. 01:02:25
Thank you. 01:02:27
Madam Clerk, Anything? 01:02:28
Mr. Assessor. 01:02:32
Good morning, Chair Fischer, Commissioners Leroy, the morning Lincoln County Assessor. 01:02:34
So this is the busiest time of the year for our office. We just mailed out over 30,000 notices of value to. 01:02:38
Property owners here in the county. 01:02:44
I just want to stress the importance of that document that people get it paired up. They see this is not a tax bill. 01:02:46
Paragraph go in the trash, but. 01:02:53
There is a 30 day window from the mailing bank which expires on the 7th of May. 01:02:55
During that time, it's. 01:03:00
That's when they can protest the values. Piper exemptions change our address. 01:03:01
We can correct errors that we might have missed. 01:03:06
During that time. 01:03:09
I highly encourage taxpayers to call our office for having questions or inquiries about the notice of Value. 01:03:11
Once this 30 day period expires, we can count. 01:03:18
Accept exemptions except for the disabled Veterans exemption. 01:03:20
And they also the only way they can protest their values during after that period is by filing the District Court. 01:03:24
They were talking about lawyer fees and. 01:03:30
I can't stress enough the importance of that document went to deadlines. 01:03:34
May the. 01:03:41
We have an opportunity to put a notice in the. 01:03:43
The trash bills. 01:03:47
Between now and then there's a 2 legs. 01:03:48
From a quarterly quarterly bill. 01:03:51
Do we know? 01:03:53
Can we check on? Can we check on that? I mean, it's something we probably should have done earlier if we're missing it. 01:03:56
But if we're not missing it, I would. 01:04:02
Highly recommended as one good way to get out and then on the other side of point. 01:04:03
Perhaps was an opportunity to put it in the paper too. 01:04:09
Just maybe a few will get it that wouldn't otherwise. 01:04:14
Because I think, I think you're right that that's key and we owe that to the citizens to let them know. 01:04:18
That this is the time to to. 01:04:24
Go back and. 01:04:27
See if you can't change things right. 01:04:29
So appreciate you bringing that up. 01:04:31
Nothing. 01:04:38
Everybody's quiet today. 01:04:39
So. 01:04:41
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, I enjoy the under Sheriff's County. 01:04:45
They're pretty busy, 30 days at the patrol side of the house. We had 18 accidents. 01:04:49
49 red. 01:04:56
We're going to one call for service. 01:04:58
18 citations. 01:05:00
154 incidents that require the case number. 01:05:02
25 warrants. 01:05:05
And 46. 01:05:07
Give us which is the inspection for public represent. 01:05:08
Request. 01:05:12
Drug Task Force The last 30 days I made 7 felony drug cases. 01:05:13
Of no one case result in the seizure of over 300 fentanyl pills. 01:05:17
Methamphetamine coating black tar heroin. 01:05:21
Methadone. Hydrocodone. 01:05:24
Suboxone. 01:05:26
Tourists. Both were felons of possession of the farmers. 01:05:27
So I'm really very. 01:05:32
Yeah, where was that? 01:05:33
Location. 01:05:35
Three days to check in. Happy hand. 01:05:37
Work. 01:05:44
That weren't anything else. 01:05:45
OK, OK. 01:05:48
The only thing I want to point out is we're really excited about the opportunity to hire. 01:05:49
Someone that that we need for county managers. It's a full time job. It's a big deal. 01:05:55
And. 01:06:01
And that's, that's a watershed moment for us, hopefully. 01:06:03
We'll be able to do that. 01:06:07
The the other thing that I I find. 01:06:08
As I get more visibility in the actions and then workings. 01:06:12
Of the county and fiscal responsibilities is the. 01:06:16
The grant idea in managing projects. 01:06:21
We're trying to do that sort of helter skelter, but. 01:06:24
We're trying to improve those processes. 01:06:28
For the citizens of the county. 01:06:31
One other thing I want is kind of. 01:06:33
Almost an editorial. What's the? 01:06:36
It's a comment, really. 01:06:38
Someone came came up to. 01:06:40
To us. 01:06:43
And made a comment. 01:06:44
It's a shame. 01:06:46
That. 01:06:48
That the politicians are involved in the budget process. 01:06:49
Let me repeat that. 01:06:57
It's a shame. 01:06:59
That you have politicians involved in the. 01:07:01
You know this. I don't know about Washington, DC. Washington, DC is a different animal, but I will tell you. 01:07:08
And I told this person. 01:07:13
That it that is the process we represent the people. 01:07:17
Imperfectly, perhaps. 01:07:21
But we try. 01:07:25
And so I know that. 01:07:27
That from my standpoint, and I think I can speak for the other commissioners, we represent our district, but we also look at the 01:07:29
broader community. 01:07:33
Because say District 5, which is mine. 01:07:39
That if District 5 got everything we think. 01:07:42
Would help out District 5. It might be at the expense of the rest of the county. 01:07:45
In some way. 01:07:50
Shape or form? 01:07:51
It is fundamental. 01:07:54
It's profoundly unique in the world. 01:07:56
That we have a system. 01:07:59
That has people like us who are accountable. 01:08:01
To the citizens, to you. 01:08:05
Quite frankly. 01:08:07
To make these decisions, however imperfect they are. 01:08:08
It's not a perfect world and they're compromises and. 01:08:12
Perspectives that we try to put together. 01:08:15
So it really bothered me that we had someone. 01:08:18
In the community who thought that? 01:08:21
People who may not be directly accountable to the people. 01:08:26
Would make decisions. 01:08:30
Ostensibly on their behalf, without any accountability. 01:08:33
So I just wanted to mention to you. 01:08:37
That little anecdote. 01:08:39
As we move into. 01:08:42
This budget process that we are. 01:08:43
We. We literally. 01:08:46
Sweat bullets trying to see. 01:08:48
You know, how do we? 01:08:52
Take care of the three requirements, which is really. 01:08:53
Really constantly revolves around public safety. Almost all of them. 01:08:57
You know, it's law enforcement, it's fire and. 01:09:01
EMS and its roads and bridges. 01:09:04
If we could do a perfect job with that, we'd probably be doing our job. 01:09:07
The rest of it? 01:09:11
All the thing you see here. 01:09:13
Is really designed to do that. 01:09:15
We'd like to do more with the schools. 01:09:17
We have. 01:09:20
0. 01:09:21
Zero ability to do that. 01:09:22
I regret that. 01:09:25
We can't hold them accountable, they don't work for us. 01:09:27
We collect. 01:09:30
Taxes. 01:09:31
We pass through. 01:09:32
To the schools, but we have 0. 01:09:34
Impact. 01:09:38
On either what they teach and what they do or don't do. 01:09:39
Whether our kids are graduating or not. 01:09:42
Programs and so forth. 01:09:45
So. 01:09:47
It's a, it's it it. It weighs on me. 01:09:50
Very heavily. 01:09:52
Our responsibility on that. So I'd like to open up the floor to any public comment. 01:09:54
Come up to the podium, state your name, and you'll have. 01:09:59
3 minutes. 01:10:01
To tell us how you feel. 01:10:03
Good morning, Commissioners. 01:10:14
Chairman Fisher. 01:10:21
I am Galen Barrington, a resident of Legacy Estates. 01:10:23
Alto, NM. 01:10:26
Four years ago, March. 01:10:29
2021 Roper Construction purchased approximately 6 acres of land burdened by deed restrictions. 01:10:31
Which he attempted to have nullified. 01:10:39
By first contacting his realtor. 01:10:41
And then 2 Lincoln County clerks. 01:10:44
All of whom? 01:10:47
Refused to become part of the scheme. 01:10:48
Brian Roper then told his neighbors he was to use the property for storage. 01:10:51
Which proved not to be true. 01:10:57
The New Mexico Environment Department application for an Alto concrete batch plant contains a large number of misleading 01:10:59
responses. 01:11:03
There's several inquiries. 01:11:08
One of the sensitive populations affected. 01:11:10
No. 01:11:13
As defined by numbness. The elderly. 01:11:15
Many of the residents in the defined sacrifice zone. 01:11:18
Is a sensitive population. 01:11:21
2 The model for environmental impact was extrapolated from the Holloman Air Force Facility. 01:11:24
Nothing applies. 01:11:32
3 Opposition likely. 01:11:33
No nearly 2000 residents voiced their opposition. 01:11:37
For a all government entities within the 10 mile radius listed. 01:11:44
No. 01:11:49
The Mescalero Apache Tribe was omitted. 01:11:50
For B nearest to a Class 1 wilderness area. 01:11:54
The three mile federal limit was ignored. 01:11:58
4C The project is to be built on the National Scenic Byway. 01:12:02
Which is prohibited by federal regulations. 01:12:07
Eventually, them had denied the permit. 01:12:11
Mr. Roper appealed to the Environmental Improvement Board. 01:12:14
Ignoring the opposition. 01:12:17
And IB. 01:12:19
Without a strike visitation. 01:12:21
Overturn amendment. 01:12:24
Litigation continues. 01:12:27
During the intervening 4 years. 01:12:30
It was revealed that the county commissioners at the onset of this project had the opportunity. 01:12:32
To prevent Mr. Roper from building in this primarily residential area. 01:12:39
As reported by the Sierra Club. 01:12:45
Quote The contractor has ignored crucially sensitive populations. 01:12:48
As misrepresented modeling procedures required in the permit request. 01:12:53
Has ignored the neighborhood opposition. 01:12:58
And has demonstrated a complete disregard for the environment with an assault on government regulations. 01:13:01
UN quote. 01:13:08
Next slide. 01:13:09
Please listen to the people. 01:13:11
Who you represent? 01:13:14
And find appropriate solutions. 01:13:15
The solution here was. 01:13:19
Unimaginably simple. 01:13:21
Built on his existing 140 acre. 01:13:23
Industrial Property. 01:13:27
5 miles. 01:13:29
On State Highway 48. 01:13:31
The life altering grief this project has caused your constituency. 01:13:34
It's unconscionable. 01:13:39
I stand for questions from this new Thank you, Mr. Farrington. Your time is up. 01:13:42
Appreciation. 01:13:46
No questions. 01:13:48
That question. 01:13:49
Anybody else? 01:13:55
Good morning. 01:14:08
I'm Ernest right now. 01:14:09
Problem of write out select words. 01:14:11
In 2004 I started working. 01:14:13
With the Arnold Electric. 01:14:17
And there there was under electrical contract, maintenance contract with County Lincoln. 01:14:19
I worked with him up until 2012. 01:14:24
Broken up my own business. 01:14:27
About the contract myself in 2012. 01:14:28
For electrical maintenance contractor from Lincoln County. 01:14:32
I held the contract until 2022. 01:14:35
When at which time I was not made aware that the contract was up for bid. 01:14:39
We were. 01:14:43
In a three-year kind of situation where it was just rolling over. 01:14:44
Didn't know it was time to bid. 01:14:48
So I lost the contract at that time. 01:14:50
I've worked since then. Other contractors have been able to be called to do work around the county. 01:14:55
And in 2023 I did the contract again, won the scoring but was denied. 01:15:01
The contract. 01:15:07
In 2024. 01:15:09
I was called to the jail to hook up a generator that my competition in 2023. 01:15:11
Was called to hook up and they said that they couldn't do it because of the fact that the generator would ruin everything inside 01:15:19
the jail. 01:15:23
I get it. It took me a half a day's time and I took care of it, got the standby generator taken care of. 01:15:26
In 2025. 01:15:32
I did the contract again just recently. 01:15:34
Last month. 01:15:36
I did the contract again, won the scoring. 01:15:37
I was denied the contract. 01:15:40
In 2024 I did work at the failed ground at fairgrounds. 01:15:43
And was asked to change out a panel. I changed out the panel. 01:15:48
Now I was asked by the lady that runs the fairground. I was asked to add more load to the panel that was existing. I was just 01:15:53
changing out a panel. 01:15:56
At that time. 01:16:01
They called the other electricians that I've been against in 2025 and in 2023. 01:16:02
And he opted to go ahead and put the load on that panel. 01:16:07
Very dangerous. 01:16:10
Should never have been done. 01:16:12
Last time I was out there. 01:16:14
The loads have been added. 01:16:15
I assisted. Since then I've assisted the on call engineer. 01:16:18
I've assisted the on call engineer on the RFP for the big generator for the whole facility. 01:16:22
The on call engineer has called me many times. 01:16:28
Asking about the operations and the way that this. 01:16:31
Building was. 01:16:34
Is handled as far as electrical. 01:16:35
And I've totally assisted with all that and it's for an RFP that I may not even get to did. 01:16:38
Very familiar with all the electrical operations in all of Lincoln County. I've worked in all the facilities. 01:16:44
I believe that a lot of people here do know who I am. 01:16:49
The Treasurer, they'll. 01:16:52
The Assessor. 01:16:53
The clerk, a lot of people who I am. 01:16:55
I understand that there's an on call engineer, there's an on call mechanical, there's an on call plumber. 01:16:58
But for some reason I get shot down to times in a row. 01:17:04
Two different years on my contract when I won the scoring for that. 01:17:07
I heard that somebody in the road department says that they need 2 electricians on call. 01:17:12
We don't have. 01:17:18
On call engineer we don't have on call. 01:17:19
OK Sir, I'm gonna have to truncate your presentation or past 3 minutes. 01:17:22
Right on. Thank you very much. Well, thanks for listening. 01:17:27
You did listen. Thank you, Mr. 01:17:34
Anybody else? 01:17:41
Thank Commissioners Bill Hall just. 01:17:47
Wanted to let you know, I don't know if you've heard it on the way over, but. 01:17:49
Lincoln County National Forest on Radio is now at level 2. 01:17:52
Which means the next step is closures. 01:17:57
So the weather doesn't change. Looking at radically different. 01:17:59
Summer for each school. 01:18:05
That's all. I just heard that one passenger. 01:18:06
Anybody on? 01:18:12
Yeah, there's no more puppets in it. 01:18:14
Karen, you've got a presentation, right? 01:18:20
Good morning, Chairman Fisher, Commissioners. So just to give you guys an update from the OAS office over the last month. 01:18:25
Volunteer Fire departments responded to 25 calls for service. 01:18:32
Including two structure fires, 5 brush fires, five false alarms. 01:18:36
5 motor vehicle accidents. 01:18:40
One carbon monoxide alarm, 2 public assist, 2 vehicle fires and three illegal burns. 01:18:42
Oh yes, had the chance to attend 2 HOA meetings. 01:18:50
As well as one fire prevention event that were all well attended. 01:18:54
We were able to talk a lot about the wildfire hardening program that we've been trying to get rolled out. 01:18:58
It seemed very well received. 01:19:04
So we're we're making some headway there. 01:19:06
We also. 01:19:09
Completed two site surveys of properties. Add owners request. 01:19:11
And we also just got our right entry form back. We're making a few minor corrections of that for the attorney and we'll be able to 01:19:14
start getting that rolled out and hopefully getting on to some more properties here very soon. 01:19:19
We also got a lead on the news. 01:19:26
It's called the NFL grant non federal land grant through New Mexico State forestry. This will help us with our idea of building a 01:19:28
barrier along the National Forest boundary. 01:19:33
This grant is designed more for larger properties, upwards of about 170 acres. However, we are being told that if we can get 01:19:39
multiple property owners to put in for this, we can lump them into one. 01:19:45
Big sections, so to speak. 01:19:52
And we can use this. This is a 100% grant. 01:19:54
There is no match, there is no cost share, none of that. They pay for it all. 01:19:58
We're also we got a new form from the Mexico State Forestry that shows all of their grants. 01:20:02
If you guys want a copy of that. 01:20:08
I brought extra copies if you guys want to see that. 01:20:10
And we'll be getting with. 01:20:13
Upper Hondo to see if we can't get something similar to that from them as well so that we can get that out to all the property 01:20:16
owners also. 01:20:19
Something else that you guys might be interested in and is we just completed the final inspection on one of the new water systems. 01:20:24
At Glencoe Fire Station 1. 01:20:31
Had a few minor repairs to take care of. Those repairs have been taken care of and there's water in those tanks and we are up and 01:20:33
running. 01:20:36
So that is great news for that fire district. 01:20:40
40,000 gallons. 40,000 gallons. 01:20:43
We're also meeting with or we've already met with the muscular Apache Fire Rescue chief. 01:20:49
He's very interested in doing some more. 01:20:55
Unified response with the county getting us out to the reservation a little more, maybe them coming into the county a little more. 01:20:59
We're very open to this idea. It sounds like we're going to be able to work very well with that department and we're super excited 01:21:06
about our future working relationship with the department. 01:21:10
Coming up in the next month. 01:21:16
If anybody is interested and would like to see some of your volunteers in action, we're hosting an extrication training at Copper 01:21:19
Ridge. 01:21:23
May 3rd and 4th. 01:21:27
It's going to be very well attended. It's a very big deal. 01:21:29
And then we'll also be at Smokey Berry days, May 2nd through the 4th. 01:21:32
Handing out fire prevention materials, Wildfire hardening stuff. 01:21:37
So please. 01:21:41
Come out and join us and. 01:21:42
See what we're doing there? 01:21:43
For any questions, last weekend you guys went to the. 01:21:45
But yes, that was the fire prevention event that we attended. 01:21:50
We call it fire prevention, abandoned with an Easter egg hunt. We took our mobile command unit out because it's big, it's flashy, 01:21:54
it draws attention. 01:21:57
Got people to come and see us and we handed out a lot of fire prevention materials, including the the hardening stuff. 01:22:02
And that event was very well attended as well. 01:22:11
So. 01:22:16
We all be at the Easter egg hunt and Rita. 01:22:18
We were not informed about that one. When is that? 01:22:22
On Saturday morning. 01:22:25
I'll see if I can get a crew out there. 01:22:28
It's NFL. 01:22:32
Grant is is spectacular and I was aware of it. 01:22:34
That that's the one where you actually can go into a neighborhood. 01:22:40
And theoretically. 01:22:44
Harden that neighborhood at least, then from a tree. 01:22:46
Concentration and brush company. 01:22:49
Concentration piece. 01:22:51
Yes. And then on top of that if you. 01:22:52
You do that. 01:22:54
Where we're in a. 01:22:56
Designated disaster area from FEMA, we can have all that slash and. 01:22:57
Material taken out for free, right? If it's long, it gets to the roadway. 01:23:02
What are your plans? 01:23:06
To leverage that capability. 01:23:08
To leverage removal of slack. 01:23:12
No to take advantage of the NFL. 01:23:15
Which which allows you to thin. 01:23:18
Very large areas of full neighborhoods. 01:23:20
And then the the other piece, if you do that in an area where you can actually get. 01:23:22
That slash, that material, that that burnable stuff out of there for free. 01:23:28
It seems to me. 01:23:32
That you have a a circumstance that you can really make. 01:23:33
Big headway. 01:23:37
Yes, but contractors? 01:23:38
And for the people in particular. 01:23:41
Hard hit or risky? 01:23:44
Yeah, absolutely. And so how we're going to get this information out is. 01:23:46
Good old fashioned boots on the ground door to door. 01:23:51
Knocking on doors, talking to people, education. 01:23:55
We're going to be using the Volunteer Fire departments. 01:23:58
We'll be talking with them. 01:24:01
Getting this information out to them. 01:24:03
They can use this as fire prevention time for their departments. 01:24:05
It'll give them a chance to get out into their communities as well. 01:24:09
Talk with property owners and stuff. 01:24:12
And this is something that we really want to push as this NFL grant. 01:24:14
We can get multiple property owners or larger property owners to take advantage of this. 01:24:17
We think that we can make a lot of headway on. 01:24:23
Our wildland? Yeah, it might be. 01:24:27
It might be good to actually concentrate on a particular area like as discussed previously, yes, and we will be starting our focus 01:24:29
in. 01:24:34
In those three areas that we had pre designated which were the Nogal area, the outdoor area and the ride also Downs area. 01:24:38
OK, Yeah. 01:24:45
I'm really concerned about the area off of Paradise Canyon that Mary Jo and back in there. 01:24:47
That borders. 01:24:53
State lands. 01:24:55
So I don't know if this one would qualify for that because. 01:24:57
Federal lanes and that state lands. But I will ask that question. I will get a hold of New Mexico State forestry and see if 01:25:01
there's not something that they have that we can do something in there. 01:25:06
And try to prevent. 01:25:11
That. 01:25:13
Because it it is. That's a pretty scary area. 01:25:14
Any questions? Any further remarks? 01:25:20
Thank you. 01:25:23
You know, I think it's getting close to that. 01:25:27
Special timer. 01:25:33
Public hearing. 01:25:34
So is that important? 01:25:46
All for a public hearing. 01:25:49
Just make sure it's in the person extends through green clock. You're 3 minutes early. 01:25:54
So. 01:26:01
Give a description. Yeah, so we have. 01:26:02
Hearing at 10:00. 01:26:06
I guess I'm looking at the clock here. 01:26:07
Got 2 minutes. 01:26:10
And I for a special use permit. 01:26:11
In the unincorporated area of Lincoln County. 01:26:13
It's for Verizon. 01:26:17
And it's on 150 Snell Rd. here does the New Mexico and I think that are you going to present on that? 01:26:19
Chairman Fisher, Commissioners got analog planning department. 01:26:31
As I know there is a brand new Chinese cell tower if they're wanting to put up about 8 miles. 01:26:37
You still hear off the snow Rd. 01:26:43
It's right there before the 37 cutoff. 01:26:48
Going to provide more service. 01:26:52
So cell powers are very. 01:26:55
Complicated per SE. 01:26:57
So with us today, we have a Mr. Robert Nauman. He is our contractor. 01:26:59
That he. 01:27:04
Reviews all the. 01:27:05
All the specs, all the paperwork, and then he tells me. 01:27:08
To everything. 01:27:12
So, Mr. Dominic? 01:27:15
And, Mr. Chair, just to raise an issue we've had with the other public hearings. 01:27:22
I think the witness should be sworn. 01:27:29
And if the clerk doesn't think so, then I'm happy to do it. 01:27:31
And would you please wear, Sir, Would you state your name? Sure. My name is Robert Newman. 01:27:37
Tell the truth, I do Thank you. 01:27:41
Yes, my name is Robert Newman. I work for CMS, which is the consultant that has been under contract with Lincoln County to. 01:27:45
Administer all the wireless facilities within the county. 01:27:53
This is a proposed new tower to fill in a gap in service. 01:27:57
I'm looking at kind of where Scott. 01:28:02
The way we typically will do applications when it involves a new. 01:28:06
Facility. Do we try to get enough information? 01:28:11
In the middle so that you guys can make an informed decision as to whether or not this is a good location for that facility in 01:28:16
that size and that type. 01:28:20
I don't generally ask them to do a lot of. 01:28:27
Investigatory design in advance. 01:28:31
Such as the structural design. 01:28:35
Because if it doesn't get approved, it would change the type of divine. 01:28:37
And I'm trying to encourage them to be able to move forward without. 01:28:41
Spending money that may be unnecessary or may have to be redone. 01:28:45
So when we send him this. 01:28:49
Kind of a draft CS up. 01:28:52
We included some conditions of approval. 01:28:56
And those outlining some of the things that. 01:28:58
We recommend holding off on until they get. 01:29:01
Tentative approval of the tower itself and the location of the size. 01:29:05
Until and then once that is approved, it is conditionally approved that they would need to submit. 01:29:10
The structural analysis, final drawings and things of that respect for our review and approval prior to going forward with 01:29:15
construction. 01:29:18
But so we phase a little bit of the documents that are needed. 01:29:22
To try and take advantage and give the applicant some. 01:29:27
Great, as far as not spending money. 01:29:32
For they actually get the concept approved for the permit. 01:29:34
So in this case there was a number of items that are still. 01:29:39
Outstanding. And I will leave it up to David to kind of present his proposal as far as. 01:29:42
The gap in service and things of that respect. 01:29:48
But right now, some of the items that will still need to be done is again, the final site plan, the final construction drawings. 01:29:51
And what we will see is both for. 01:29:58
State power. 01:30:01
As well As for Verizon, we will see construction plans for both. 01:30:02
So it's kind of a joint application. 01:30:06
Because the tower owner cannot build a tower without having a carrier committed to going on it. 01:30:08
Otherwise it would be what we consider a spec tower and it may or may not end up getting used. 01:30:15
In this case, Verizon has committed to going on the tower and on the facility so that we will get enhanced service. 01:30:20
And there actually is a need for the tower. 01:30:27
If there was number carrier to go on there, there's really no need for the tower and hence we wouldn't be recommending approval. 01:30:30
A couple of things. Also the structural analysis is one that needs to be done yet. 01:30:38
And then? 01:30:41
The applicant has asked for relief on. 01:30:43
The structural analysis to provide documentation that is designed. 01:30:47
Support the requirement of four additional carriers. 01:30:51
So that it leaves room for expansion on that tower so that we don't have. 01:30:55
Another tower right across the street that would have to go on this tower. 01:30:59
If there is a future need for an additional carrier at that location or within that vicinity. 01:31:04
The tower lighting, maybe David will be able to say that they have had submitted to the FAA. 01:31:10
A verification that lighting will not be required at this location. 01:31:17
They designed the tower height at 199 feet. 01:31:22
Which stays just below the 200 foot. 01:31:26
Which is a limit for. 01:31:28
Typically requiring lighting to be required. 01:31:30
I haven't seen that. 01:31:33
Documentation that. 01:31:35
It is not required yet. 01:31:36
So if the applicant. 01:31:38
Has told us that. 01:31:39
Lighting is needed. 01:31:42
That may affect some things on how we would want to install the lighting to try and create some light Shields and things like 01:31:44
that. 01:31:47
So it doesn't affect the adjacent neighborhood. 01:31:50
And the neighbors who are living there. 01:31:53
Providing determinations fell out there. 01:31:56
Universal societies and a performance bond for removal of the tower. Both of those. 01:31:58
The signage will need to be included into the final plans. 01:32:04
And then the bottom will need to be provided. 01:32:07
Which guarantees that. 01:32:09
Should that company ever go bankrupt? 01:32:11
You will have a bond in place to remove that facility, but. 01:32:13
Coming up and an on sitely facility. 01:32:16
I guess I will open it up for any questions that you may have. 01:32:19
So if there's no questions, we would recommend those conditions of approval as part of your. 01:32:26
Approval. Uh. 01:32:32
And I could provide a copy of a letter if you need to, if Scott hasn't already done that. 01:32:33
But uh. 01:32:38
And turn it over to the board and. 01:32:39
See if they want to ask the applicant to work. 01:32:41
Thank you so much. 01:32:46
So I don't know who who can answer this so. 01:32:55
You're the applicant. 01:32:58
Yeah, come to the podium please and state your name and. 01:33:00
My name is David Luchenko. I'm sorry, David Klutchnik. 01:33:07
Do you sure tell the truth? I do. Thank you. Yeah. So I'm David Kushnick with Clinical Consulting representing Sun State Towers 01:33:10
and Verizon Wireless. So we are the applicant way of work is Verizon contracted us to build inspect the tower and then to Roberts 01:33:15
Point. 01:33:20
Verizon will be that anchor tenant on there as well. 01:33:25
OK, so. 01:33:29
So do we have any indication that maybe this is a better? 01:33:31
Question for Scott, but I don't know if it can be answered. 01:33:34
Do the the public around her realize that this is going on other than through our. 01:33:38
Yeah. So in the initial portion of. 01:33:43
Of course, this takes a couple years right from front from front to back right So when we. 01:33:46
Initially got the project. We reached out to multiple candidates in the area. 01:33:50
Multiple people expressed their interest of not only having it on their property, but meeting the service in the area off the 01:33:54
highway as well. So. 01:33:58
Very aware that it's happening over there, including the landlord itself. Michael Brands has been aware and knocked on doors at 01:34:01
the same time. 01:34:05
How about will there be an opportunity to put? 01:34:12
Some of our radios on there is that, yeah. So there's to Roberts Point, this is designed and built for so not only Verizon, but 01:34:16
three additional carriers as well. So I mean there's plenty of space not only with the the zoning drawings, but the construction 01:34:20
drawings that were submitted. 01:34:25
There is multiple spots for multiple antenna arrays on the on the facility as well. 01:34:30
Any other questions? 01:34:39
But I have one more, so yeah. 01:34:41
What would be? 01:34:44
Is there any? 01:34:46
Consideration given to the county. 01:34:48
For placement of radio repeaters, it hasn't been brought up to me, but of course you know us. 01:34:50
I'm Pinnacle Consulting, Sun State Towers. We own the facility itself. So I mean, it hasn't been brought enough to me, but nothing 01:34:56
that we were ever opposed to. 01:34:59
I'm kind of bringing it up now. 01:35:03
So I mean, we don't want to pay for it. 01:35:08
I'm sorry, what's that? We don't want to pay for it. OK, Yeah, I mean, we. 01:35:10
We would like to have the ability. 01:35:15
To put a repeater up there for. 01:35:18
Emergency communication system. 01:35:21
Throughout the county. 01:35:23
Add this to that stable of repeaters. 01:35:25
And as it's that public safety. 01:35:29
Oriented, uh. 01:35:32
And not commercial? 01:35:33
We would like to find. 01:35:35
A means of doing it. 01:35:36
Without any any requirement that the county pay. 01:35:39
You for it being fun there or Verizon? 01:35:42
OK. 01:35:45
Yeah. I mean, clearly, I can't personally make that decision, right. But I mean, my owner and CEO, I mean, we've done it plenty of 01:35:45
times in the past, especially in kind of rural portions where that highway is. 01:35:50
There's a massive gap in the service. There's about a 7 mile radius between. 01:35:55
You know the. 01:36:00
Closest facility until this one and then even further as you go down the highway as well. 01:36:00
It'll even cover most of that portion of the 380, as well as all the way down to that Volunteer Fire Department that's a little 01:36:05
bit South of there. 01:36:09
My expectation would be before you come back for an approval. 01:36:16
There has to be something binding in a contract with the county that says. 01:36:20
We'll have a position to do that. 01:36:24
To actually install, repeat. 01:36:26
OK. 01:36:28
Yeah, I mean, that's just say. 01:36:31
What's that? I want you to repeat what I just said. Yeah, Before we come back for approval, you will need something signed and in 01:36:33
writing that says that the county can put a repeater on on the facility for you, right. And so are we going to have independent? 01:36:39
The ability to have a generator on that site. 01:36:45
To power either. 01:36:48
Our our repeater system or. 01:36:50
Even even the cell? I mean, do you have? 01:36:53
Plans to have multiple. 01:36:56
Power sources because there have been times. 01:36:58
We've lost power, we've lost cell service, right? 01:37:00
I'm just asking about that. Yes, there is a backup generated and it's associated in the compound itself to your original question. 01:37:04
On the opportunity to add, it's a 40 by 40 lease space that's that's fenced in the compound. 01:37:11
Which is for the shelter itself, provides enough. 01:37:16
For those additional carriers or anybody else to go on it so. 01:37:20
There is plenty of space in there for an additional generator. 01:37:24
The meter will already be in place for the power directly to the antenna array or the repeater, so that would already be in place. 01:37:27
OK. Do we have any other comments from the public and it's a public hearing? 01:37:36
All right if there are no comments. 01:37:42
So questions, I appreciate you giving us that information. 01:37:44
And we look forward to seeing that. 01:37:48
That agreement in writing that says that we can. 01:37:50
OK. So that's the stipulation of of the approval, correct? 01:37:54
Yeah, OK. 01:37:57
I think I'm speaking. 01:37:59
For the Commission. 01:38:02
Thank you. 01:38:04
Is that true? 01:38:06
Mr. Chair. 01:38:09
I think what you really should be focused on when you're when you're making a land use approval is what the criteria that we're 01:38:11
we've set out in our zoning code for special use permits and other things. 01:38:17
And so those are the main things that you should be looking at when you're making a. 01:38:23
Decision on whether to grant something or not. 01:38:27
OK. I appreciate that. Thank you. 01:38:30
OK. So we'll close the public hearing that. 01:38:34
We have. 01:38:49
King Industries, do they hear you? 01:38:50
I think we ought to go to 15. 01:39:11
Monterrey County, I'd like the county lodgers tax. 01:39:13
Temper. 01:39:17
So the the ideas of obtained Morgan County commissioners random selection of four lodgers. 01:39:21
For the annual audit that we have to. 01:39:27
Somebody thank you, Carla. 01:39:30
So here's. 01:39:35
What we do for the public's. 01:39:35
Knowledge We we pick out four randomly. 01:39:40
People that are that are involved in providing lodgers tax to the county. 01:39:43
Can we do an audit with them so it's it's random? 01:39:47
And I'm not going to pick. 01:39:51
Then we'll conduct an audit. 01:39:58
Make sure that. 01:40:00
That we keep the integrity of the system. 01:40:02
Together, right, It's important for the county, so. 01:40:04
Two of these are going to get audited once an alternate. 01:40:08
So what numbers would you choose? 01:40:10
195. 01:40:50
And one. 01:40:54
The first center from the. 01:40:56
High category and the second is from the low category. 01:40:58
Just so you guys are hoping. 01:41:01
Thank you. As far as the amounts that we collected, Thank you. Do you have the the numbers? 01:41:02
Thank you. 01:41:08
OK. Thank you very much. Let's move on to consideration approval, modest tax rate. 01:41:13
Quest. 01:41:17
Kelly. 01:41:19
Chairman, Commissioners. Michelle Williams. 01:41:26
We discussed everything in workshop, I think comprehensive questions. 01:41:30
First has to read us a run test. 01:41:40
Run fast. 01:41:45
Any any questions on that particular? 01:41:49
Approval. Thanks. 01:41:51
Doso Tattoo Expo. 01:41:53
No questions. 01:42:03
Dozo Comic Con. 01:42:04
These were presented to us. These these programs or these requests were presented to us a week ago. 01:42:06
Some detail then. 01:42:12
We don't like going against the lodgers tech. 01:42:14
Or they actually go in detail. 01:42:17
And then make the recommendations for the approval. 01:42:19
So seeing no questions regarding that from the Commission's. 01:42:22
Thank you Shelly for coming. 01:42:26
Madam Treasurer, can you give us a? 01:42:29
The the latest on what we have in Logitech right now. 01:42:31
Please. 01:42:35
So as of March 31st to. 01:42:42
2025. 01:42:44
$959,049.60. 01:42:46
But that's not taking out any encumbrances. 01:42:50
Yeah, I think. 01:42:57
For quite much lower than that. 01:43:00
The yearly encumbrances are 263. 01:43:12
$1090.20. 01:43:14
About 700,000. 01:43:26
Thank you. 01:43:31
There are 16 planning. 01:43:34
Discussion action regarding vacation of Placidus. 01:43:36
They lengthen subdivision. 01:43:38
Yeah, I guess it's part of the approval, yeah. 01:43:46
I'll entertain a motion to. 01:43:49
Approved the larger tax requests. 01:43:51
Motion I'll make a motion to approve the. 01:43:57
Modules tax request. 01:44:01
So we go some fun. 01:44:03
Best or sorry, run best. 01:44:05
As an approved amount by the largest tax committee of $5000. 01:44:09
The Arctic Gosso cartoon Vesco. 01:44:16
And the Improvement Lodgers Tax Committee of $7500. 01:44:19
R2 Ghost. 01:44:25
Joseph. 01:44:27
Amount approved by the largest tax committee. 01:44:30
Commissioner. 01:44:36
You're welcome. 01:44:42
Thank you. 01:44:46
Let's go back to 16. Let's get that on the next page breaker. 01:44:48
The blastus capability. The kids. 01:44:52
The rear needs approved that one. 01:44:55
We shall we embed without erroneously that's up the agenda this month. So we're going to put it on next month agenda. 01:44:59
Yes, thank you. 01:45:09
Planning discussion action regarding vacation of. 01:45:10
Under plat. 01:45:14
Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Scott Analyt, Planning Department. 01:45:17
The only way this subdivision. 01:45:21
Exist is on paper. 01:45:24
It was filed. The plat was filed, I want to say back in 19. 01:45:26
63. 01:45:31
Since then. 01:45:34
Not a blade of grass or. 01:45:35
There are no roads, there are no utilities. There are. 01:45:38
There's nothing. It's just go ahead. 01:45:41
There's more major property owners that. 01:45:44
This is affecting. 01:45:47
Two of them, of which. 01:45:48
Their warranty deeds that are not mentioned. 01:45:50
The the subdivision. 01:45:53
On two of them they do. 01:45:56
Mention the subdivision. 01:45:59
And so they're concerned about maybe future sales down the. 01:46:00
Down the road. 01:46:04
About I can't buy, you know I don't. 01:46:06
I don't want to own the community. 01:46:09
That's being assessed as just. 01:46:11
Rand raw land. 01:46:13
So. 01:46:16
They wanted to formally. 01:46:17
Vacate that plat. 01:46:19
I we sent out notices. 01:46:22
I got. 01:46:26
In your in your packet you should have. 01:46:27
The flat of the subdivision. 01:46:32
And then the land the way it's configured now, and then the overlaying of the subdivision and the land. 01:46:34
So. 01:46:42
We notified everybody. I got permission. 01:46:44
From everybody. 01:46:47
So I would recommend that you. 01:46:49
They take this. 01:46:51
Prositus de Lincoln Black. 01:46:52
And there's, there's 4/4 owners. 01:46:55
Yes. 01:46:59
Mean, I think I see. 01:47:00
Agreement file 4IN here right? 01:47:02
Does our ordinance describe that this action needs to have a public hearing? 01:47:05
No, it doesn't say. Ordinance does not require that. 01:47:10
And entertain a motion that we. 01:47:25
Regarding this vacation. 01:47:27
The Placidus de Lincoln subdivision plant. 01:47:29
Approving it. 01:47:34
Is there anything in the Mexico City statute that would require it? 01:47:36
Mr. Chair, Commissioner Serna, I don't believe so. 01:47:41
It just takes Commission action, then we'll have to record a. 01:47:44
Revised Plat. 01:47:47
With appropriate signatures on it. 01:47:49
That's all you need to do. 01:47:53
Mr. Chairman. 01:47:55
In this testament, in this. 01:47:56
Information we have in our packet. 01:47:59
In there's a highlighted section that says Vacation class. 01:48:02
And under 8.3 point three in a deep period said with a 60 days after the date received. 01:48:06
Of the request for vacation, the board of county commissioners shall approve or deny the vacation subject to the following. 01:48:11
And a is action shall be taken at a public meeting. 01:48:17
And so. 01:48:22
I think that's what we're doing right now. I think this is another thing that. 01:48:23
Have the utilities been notified? 01:48:29
There are there are no utilities there. 01:48:33
So this this area right here is. 01:48:41
Make it raw land, not a blade of grass. Have been disturbed. 01:48:49
And and kind of grievance 1960 whatever they. 01:48:54
Flooded, right? 01:48:59
Regarding the vacation. 01:49:12
Subdivision Flat. 01:49:14
Second one second. 01:49:18
Is that for approval of? 01:49:21
Vacation. Yes. Approval. 01:49:23
Is. 01:49:25
Madam Clerk, protocol, please. 01:49:31
Commissioner Wilson. 01:49:33
Yes, Commissioner Prather. 01:49:34
Yes, Commissioner Charter. 01:49:35
Yes, Chair Fisher. 01:49:38
Aye. 01:49:39
The next part of this deal is discussion and consideration of application for. 01:49:42
Closure of 2883 square feet of Plain Ave. 01:49:46
No down in Mexico. 01:49:49
Chairman, Commissioner. Commissioner Scott. Animal Planning Department. 01:49:52
This is partial vacation. 01:49:57
It's not vacating. 01:50:00
Blaine Ave. is just a partial vacation of. 01:50:02
2883 square feet. 01:50:06
Just a little slice of heaven that that they they want. 01:50:09
This has been in the mean to make for a couple months now at least. 01:50:14
We did convene a road review back on March 26 or 28. 01:50:19
26 So with that, we have our. 01:50:24
Mr. James Rust. 01:50:29
In the road review committee if you'd like to. 01:50:31
Hello everyone. 01:50:42
Staffer questioning on. 01:50:43
Basically, we're just asking that based on the evidence presented and review of the statutory requirements. 01:50:45
Us as the road committee finds that slain Rd. no longer serves a public purpose and recommends vacating the public right away 01:50:50
designation, it's basically. 01:50:54
A piece of land where this guy's front yard fence is and it's it doesn't. 01:50:59
Even interfere with the way the road is. 01:51:03
The roads not used. 01:51:06
Anymore, except for these homes that are there so it just makes sense to help them out and go ahead and get. 01:51:08
And that and that portion just is under there. 01:51:15
Control correct? 01:51:17
Right. 01:51:19
But the other owners will still have access to their homes. Yes, for sure. 01:51:19
It just runs. It's like AI, don't know if you see it in the maps, but it's like a. 01:51:24
Yeah, it it starts at about where their fence is and down towards the Creek. It's a little wider, but it. 01:51:28
If you stand back up and look, you can see it's basically a straight line down from where it should be. 01:51:33
Is there any compensation required? 01:51:39
That's the attorney vacation. 01:51:43
I think I asked Scott who's it going to and. 01:51:48
Who's It's the new landowner? 01:51:51
The new property owner. 01:51:55
Yes, with us, we also have a Dennis Nagin. He is the current landowner. 01:51:56
The old landowner. 01:52:01
I think the switched hand. 01:52:03
Just close. Yeah, close the better. Enough to go from Archie with. 01:52:05
He was ready to give a compensation for this 280. 01:52:09
2883 square feet. 01:52:14
That the assessors put a value to it. 01:52:17
And he's ready to write the check today, probably. 01:52:20
OK. That was what I wanted to hear. That's one of the requirements. 01:52:23
Around a portion thereof. 01:52:28
Yes, Sir. 01:52:29
OK, so. 01:52:32
I think sounds like the requirements are met. 01:52:34
On this particular. 01:52:36
Matter. Let's entertain a motion to approve. 01:52:38
Vacation. 01:52:41
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that we. 01:52:47
For the application of closure of 200 and. 01:52:50
2883 square feet of Slain Ave. 01:52:53
2nd. 01:53:00
Discussion. 01:53:01
OK, so I I. 01:53:05
A discussion piece. 01:53:07
I'm I'm a little bit confused on the difference between. 01:53:09
What are we doing here? 01:53:14
Actually, Chairman Fisher were. 01:53:16
Closing the road, there is no. 01:53:21
Right feet anymore. 01:53:23
Vacating a Rd. 01:53:25
There is, there is a fee involved with that. That's therein lies Mike. 01:53:26
Problem with this this this motion. 01:53:31
With the person who started the emotion. 01:53:34
Care to amend it? 01:53:37
To a application for vacation. 01:53:38
Yes, Sir, I will amend my motion. 01:53:44
For the application to vacate. 01:53:48
2883 square feet of slain Rd. 01:53:50
Ave. Nogal, NM. 01:53:55
We have a second. 01:53:58
2nd. 01:54:00
OK, Madam Clerk will call please. 01:54:03
Commissioner Wilson. 01:54:07
Commissioner Sal. 01:54:08
Yes, Commissioner Chavez. 01:54:09
Yes, Chair Fisher. 01:54:15
Aye, Motion. 01:54:17
Thank you, guys. Thank you. 01:54:18
Thank you. 01:54:21
That. 01:54:23
OK, so let's I want to jump around just. 01:54:28
There I can get my paperwork done. 01:54:33
What I'm interested now in doing? 01:54:37
Is going over. 01:54:40
Really a very important subject. 01:54:42
Which is the presentation #23 right 23. 01:54:46
Presentation regarding South Fork salt. 01:54:50
Disaster recovery. 01:54:53
Effort run us through the paperwork and the figures. 01:54:57
20 3. 01:55:15
So, so do we have something to put up put up there? Did you guys want to do that or just talk on the paper? That was what we 01:55:21
emailed that presentation into you. I've got we got the emails, but we haven't put it here. What we do have is paper. 01:55:26
OK. So we don't have it. 01:55:32
Ready to put up? 01:55:34
We'll just use the paper. 01:55:35
Give us a moment. 01:55:44
Let's let's take a recess here for 10 minutes. 01:55:48
You should look when we get a break, sorry. 01:55:51
Perfect. 01:55:55
Being. 01:56:00
In 10 minutes, I think everybody's happy now for happy years. 01:56:02
Are you ready? Thank you. 01:56:06
And do you have your presentation? 01:56:08
Yes, Sir is ready. All right, so this is great. You have the floor. State your name, who the heck you are and why you're here. 01:56:11
Commissioners of Charles Boston Industries and we're here to do a. 01:56:18
FEMA overview kind of show you guys exactly where we're around everything and go over all the South Fork and salt fire expenses. 01:56:22
So. 01:56:30
OK. So we have our inventory 8 project is our big right away debris removal project 7.7 million. 01:56:33
This has been submitted to FEMA for the 75% reimbursement and is at the there's. 01:56:40
Their center analysis being reviewed. 01:56:46
But it's looking good and we we have all their. 01:56:49
Documentation in so they're. 01:56:51
Working through that right now. So we should, maybe we should tell the whole story, right? Or at least most of it. 01:56:54
On that particular one. 01:56:59
So this was during an emergency when we wrote this contract, this was actually declared by the previous. 01:57:03
Occupier of the President. 01:57:11
Presidency. 01:57:13
And and. 01:57:16
As such. 01:57:17
We we're looking for life safety issues. 01:57:19
Very quickly done. 01:57:23
And we? 01:57:24
Inadvertently admitted. 01:57:25
Some some verbiage. 01:57:27
In the contracts. 01:57:32
Then after we had the time, had it not been an emergency, we will certainly put a MET. 01:57:34
So when this was submitted. 01:57:40
A number of. 01:57:43
The contracts were rejected because they did not have. 01:57:44
That those codicils or those that verbiage in it. 01:57:49
We since subsequently. 01:57:53
Have been told by FEMA what needed to be done. 01:57:55
The addendums will be done and we will resubmit. 01:57:59
And there seems to be no reason to suspect we won't get our reimbursement. 01:58:03
But that's where we're at right now, so. 01:58:08
We have that information. 01:58:12
Continue. All right, so that's our. 01:58:13
Or category A or right of ways of removal if you go to the next slide please. 01:58:16
So here's. 01:58:21
We're kind of labeling this as a gap B or the. 01:58:23
EOC costs, so this was all. 01:58:26
The cost that was for the emergency efforts. 01:58:29
Right after the fire. So this would include all the things the county paid for like. 01:58:31
The catering at the EOC, the. 01:58:37
Firefighting efforts. 01:58:39
There's quite a few things that. 01:58:41
In this, in this project. But all those receipts have been documented. They've all been submitted to FEMA. 01:58:43
And again, it's under review for reimbursement. 01:58:48
And there is there any? 01:58:51
Concerned about how we submitted those there. There is going to be questions that come back and forth. Yes, Sir. JD King, King 01:58:54
Industries. 01:58:58
There are going to be some questions to come back. 01:59:02
Just like in our. 01:59:04
Cat a project. 01:59:06
Those questions. 01:59:08
Obviously will be answered as they come, but there's so many different contracts in this one. 01:59:09
So many different ways of purchase. 01:59:15
That all of them will have to be reviewed on an individual basis. 01:59:17
And. 01:59:21
Responded back to in case 13 is any. 01:59:22
Anything needs to be changed or modified. 01:59:24
So what's the total dollar amount? Category B. 01:59:26
Would you repeat that please? What's the total dollar amount? I can't see it from here. 01:59:32
Our category B1, so we're handling these a little bit separate because the road. 01:59:38
That the emergency Rd. repairs. 01:59:41
Or in their own project. 01:59:43
That was. 01:59:45
726,000 for the emergency Rd. repairs the county paid for and then the EOC cost was just a hair under a million at. 01:59:46
About 9.7. 01:59:53
Or 970,000. 01:59:55
OK. And as we go through the slides, it'll break this down a little bit more and show where all those dollars went. Thank you. 01:59:58
And then next we have our Category C project. So these are permanent work projects that we put in with FEMA to to repair roads. 02:00:04
Culverts and. 02:00:11
Throughout the the burned area and most of that that damage was caused from the the flooding that was after the after the fires. 02:00:14
OK, so here's where it kind of starts breaking down. 02:00:25
How much we submitted for on all the. 02:00:29
On all the different projects and it did that up to. 02:00:32
37 million for all the. 02:00:36
For all the. 02:00:39
Disaster award that we put in. 02:00:40
With FEMA. 02:00:42
30, it's 37 million, but most of that is. 02:00:44
Permanent work projects in the future, they have not been, have not been done. The county doesn't have any money into those 02:00:47
projects that they're not started. They're how much do we have? 02:00:51
Did we expect today? 02:00:56
Right at 10 million, that'd be the first of the top three up there. The A and the B is money that is already spent. That's. 02:00:58
Just a hair under 9.7. 02:01:04
7:00 So that that matches, Madam Treasurer, what you suspect we. 02:01:08
That's suspect. That's a terrible thing to say what you know. 02:01:13
So we show the 10 million plus we have a little bit more for the leasing file. So that's all on the same fund. But yes, that's. 02:01:22
I would have to. I can't see it from here. Trying to look at it on. 02:01:33
I think I think the 9.7. 02:01:39
Figure matches salt and and and South. 02:01:42
So there's there's some nuances in there that we're having to find because of payrolls and how they ended. 02:01:46
Some of the Bluetooth fire. 02:01:52
Paper will carry over and that's where we've got some some of the. 02:01:53
The pennies to verify. 02:01:57
Yeah, so, so the Bluetooth, where are we at? 02:01:58
In getting reimbursement for that, how's that going to? 02:02:01
That's under a different that's for the OES or EOS and Brian has submitted it, it's with. 02:02:05
The state, and we're waiting on those DHS EM, is that where that went to? 02:02:13
How much is that? 02:02:19
I don't have that figure in front of. 02:02:21
I don't either 116,000 or something. 02:02:24
So so I need I need some information on that. 02:02:32
Parent when you get a chance. 02:02:37
Like to know where we're at on that? 02:02:38
And so and so the the bottom line here, I think. 02:02:42
Is. 02:02:46
I need to have those those numbers. 02:02:49
Put together and. 02:02:51
And also separate. I think you have it here. 02:02:52
And then where? Where are the the risks? 02:02:55
To the county in terms of. 02:02:58
Getting refunds? 02:03:00
That that's that's key. 02:03:03
So in category A, category A and Category B. 02:03:06
The risks are obviously in those three projects. 02:03:09
And. 02:03:12
We're a lot further along. 02:03:13
In the category A project. 02:03:15
In the process. 02:03:17
I've said in earlier you've got some addendums that need to be. 02:03:18
Added into those contracts just to make sure that they pass purement. 02:03:22
And once that happens. 02:03:26
We understand that they've already passed all the other checks. 02:03:28
So should be our final step on getting that one. 02:03:31
Submitted to the state for reimbursement. 02:03:34
Money submitted from FEMA to the state for reimbursement, not the other way around. 02:03:38
The cat bees. 02:03:42
Obviously are going to be. 02:03:43
They're going to take a little more effort because there's so many different pieces and he'll show you in a minute. 02:03:45
Of what all those are, but that one's a little bit more at risk. 02:03:50
Because we haven't gone through. 02:03:54
Every step with them on contracting. 02:03:56
OK, continue. 02:04:01
You're going to minimize slide please. 02:04:04
OK. So the way we broke down this this project we have is so this was the communication costs that were. 02:04:08
Incurred during the. 02:04:14
During the fire. So after the fire, the. 02:04:15
Cell phone towers went down and we were relying on radios and. 02:04:17
The emergency relying on. 02:04:21
Alternative communication So this shows just what we. 02:04:24
What the county? 02:04:27
In that situation, to get the communication online to fight the fire. 02:04:29
Another slide has all this token up, so the next slide too. 02:04:34
This was the catering cost for the EOC. 02:04:39
Which was set up at the Ruidoso Convention Center. 02:04:41
And the county and the village took turns. 02:04:44
Thank for the catering to feed the. 02:04:48
Firefighters, swiftwater rescue teams of. 02:04:49
Emergency Management, people from the state that were there, there was quite a few. 02:04:52
People here fighting the fire so this just shows the. 02:04:56
The catering cost of the county picked up on that one. 02:04:59
What was the cost? 02:05:01
I can't read the numbers to you. 02:05:03
It comes back around later but it's about 225,000 for catering. 02:05:05
And it's important to look at because this summer, if we do get it. 02:05:09
You know, some flooding and they declare a new FEMA disaster, then they'll establish an EOC. 02:05:12
And they'll be cost in. 02:05:18
In running that, you'll see in that situation if that happens. 02:05:20
We'll have a more fiscally responsible manager in place at that time. 02:05:24
But that's what these slides can just show exactly what happened that way for planning in the future to know. 02:05:28
What what direction to go on that? 02:05:33
Next slide, please. 02:05:35
So communication costs, how do we get to? 02:05:38
How do we cover those? 02:05:41
Future. No, I mean. 02:05:45
These nails that in. 02:05:47
Right. 02:05:50
That's money spent. We cover that money. So that's in that EOC reimbursement. 02:05:51
And this just this is just. 02:06:00
To break it down into about 5 categories to seek to show where the money went. And the catering is part of the EOC piece. Yes, 02:06:01
Sir. We're just calling it the EOC because it was. 02:06:06
The money that was basically spent right in the firefighting efforts, in the staying online. 02:06:10
And, and the, the direct couple weeks out, you know, as the fire was being bought and then as the the flood started, all that cost 02:06:16
was being. 02:06:20
That's also in the IMAX refunds too. That's what Brian is doing, Aaron, correct? 02:06:32
For the Bluetooth, yes Sir. 02:06:38
Please. 02:06:43
This slide just shows kind of some. 02:06:46
Random expenses that the county. 02:06:48
Picked up right again at that same timeline, this would be. 02:06:50
Fuel. Propane. 02:06:53
You know, sandbags. 02:06:56
Buying sand and. 02:06:58
To four to five people's houses in different places, so. 02:06:59
These are different things that the county. 02:07:02
Paid for just to get in the direct aftermath of the disaster. 02:07:04
And all these expenses are submitted to FEMA and they are in the what we're calling the EOC Category B project. 02:07:08
That shows the the I've asked. 02:07:18
Which is. 02:07:20
All of the. 02:07:21
Different fire departments from around the state that came to help us fight the fire and the expenses that they have. 02:07:23
As you know, we had quite a few. 02:07:29
Counties and cities. 02:07:31
That we have firefighters coming. 02:07:32
And again, this is all submitted to FEMA for reimbursement. 02:07:35
So, so in the eye mask fairness is a question for you. 02:07:38
It it was there. Is there a way that we can request? 02:07:42
The the support. 02:07:47
And having the state directed pay for it as opposed to us. 02:07:49
And then question. 02:07:53
From the state. 02:07:54
That's a good question and I'm not sure the answer on that. We can definitely look into that. 02:07:56
Or obviously we need to do this again, I thought the IMAS system. 02:08:01
Basically, it's a state. 02:08:05
System, statewide system for sure, right? 02:08:08
And I thought if we had a legitimate request. 02:08:11
That was approved through my list that I asked in fact would find that. 02:08:14
That. 02:08:18
That deployment of those resources directly. 02:08:19
And they would, they would go to Imass themselves. 02:08:22
As individual. 02:08:25
Hannity as opposed to? 02:08:27
Are you doing that? 02:08:29
So the way I understand that front. 02:08:30
And pages. This is out of our pocket now. And now we're begging to get paid. I thought I mess. 02:08:32
Was set up not just a request, but actually fund and support. 02:08:38
These efforts I'm ever looking there. 02:08:43
So. 02:08:45
I think that's where we were all a little confused from the get go, but the way I understand it now is that whenever we make that 02:08:47
request. 02:08:50
They fulfilled the request through the state and then we pay for that IMAP. 02:08:53
And then we get reimbursed. 02:08:58
In the state, so it's a. 02:09:00
It's kind of like a grant where we have to pay for it and then get reimbursed on the back end. 02:09:02
I'd like to get some work. 02:09:10
We can reach out to Allie Ryan and see if we can get some more clarification on. 02:09:12
Somebody told me. 02:09:19
Don't ask me who because I don't remember, but somebody told me that that's how that system worked. 02:09:22
Or could work. 02:09:28
Had we? 02:09:29
Went through the through it the right way or different way? 02:09:31
Anyway that we're going to get our money back. 02:09:34
Right, Sir, I hope. Great. 02:09:37
Continue next slide. 02:09:41
So this is the Swiftwater. 02:09:45
Rescue teams that came in during the flooding, they had some expenses, so this was also put into that POC cost. 02:09:47
We bought a steel plate for road construction that. 02:09:55
That the county still owns I believe we're partnered with the village 5050 on that and the village has it in their possession 02:09:58
right now, but it's. 02:10:01
Future if there's a road that gets washed out or something, we have it handy for the. 02:10:05
For a future disaster. 02:10:08
You know, we need an inventory of that. 02:10:10
Are those just the ones that were placed over? 02:10:15
To get you know. 02:10:18
To get into the racetrack. 02:10:20
I don't believe so. Imagine those are the ones that we use. The two other more, do we know? No, it says here they were not used at 02:10:23
the Rita Downs racetrack, the road plates. 02:10:27
He's there were furnished by the contractor that did that work so. 02:10:32
They weren't utilized. 02:10:36
Minor sailing artists. 02:10:37
Purchased in case we needed it and I'm not sure if it was used or not but it's in the. I believe it's in a village of Burrito so. 02:10:39
I see. 02:10:47
OK, but they were never used. 02:10:49
They're never used, they're stacked up over. 02:10:51
But we're going to share the cost with them and we have it in to get reimbursed for it. 02:10:55
Here's Here's the breakdown of that big. 02:11:04
Of the what were called the EOC one. 02:11:06
So it just shows all those costs broke down. 02:11:09
But it's a good kind of a lesson to learn as far as where the money goes when you have a disaster. And then what? 02:11:11
What, what? What did we pay more on this one that we have ready to go for the next time as far as our communication stuff? 02:11:17
The Malva County owns. 02:11:23
What they need? 02:11:25
For the firefighters. 02:11:26
What's force account Equipment force. 02:11:30
That's a. 02:11:35
The counting zone. 02:11:36
Staff equipment that y'all already own. 02:11:37
Like the road department for example, if they did any work, that stuff goes under. 02:11:41
Under those expenses. 02:11:45
So that way people can take 4 is to like a typical. 02:11:46
They in the county were. 02:11:49
It would be part of the counties budget. This was for emergency efforts. So how did we get? 02:11:51
Get those numbers, Jeff. We're using Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Jeff Honeycutt, Lincoln County Road Superintendent. Yes, Sir, 02:11:55
we did a spreadsheet. 02:11:59
On all the hours that we did when there was regular time or overtime. 02:12:03
And we? 02:12:07
Attached the equipment to the hours of the individual that was working. 02:12:08
So you have an hourly rate for a greater an hour, you make for a lower. That is correct, yes. 02:12:11
And we do have to use the FEMA members for those rates on the equipment. 02:12:17
And we plug those in, we have a jet into the spreadsheet and. 02:12:22
Turn that into FEMA and King Industries, and that's how they come up with the. 02:12:26
They should have any trouble. 02:12:32
Complying with. 02:12:34
What the requirements in terms of things or so contract 100%? 02:12:36
Yes, and FEMA sets the rates for. 02:12:44
For the equipment and Jennifer did a very good job of. 02:12:47
You know, tracking everything, so we had all the information to submit to them. 02:12:50
Just. 02:12:55
Just a question, the swift water rescue we ever perform any? 02:12:58
Swift water rescues with those guys. 02:13:01
Yes. So those guys I know we do. 02:13:04
Yes, Sir. So those water cans did perform rescues. I know a lot of them were performed down along Highway 70 in that Turkey Mobile 02:13:08
Home Village area. 02:13:12
Kind of case in point, I don't know how many of you guys seen the video where the swift water team actually got stuck up in the 02:13:17
tree. 02:13:21
That was. 02:13:25
During the performance of a rescue. 02:13:26
On Hwy. 70. 02:13:28
So. 02:13:31
They rescued themselves. 02:13:33
There was some equipment purchased by the county for our own emergency. 02:13:40
Of personnel and that is will be. 02:13:44
They will be utilized again. 02:13:46
I think I I think I have a better understanding of where. 02:13:54
Costs are, I don't know how you guys. 02:13:56
And so this was valuable. 02:14:00
But I'm still. 02:14:03
It seems to me that that we're going to have to put a lot of calories. 02:14:05
And following up and making sure that we actually get the money. 02:14:09
That's that's key. 02:14:14
The other The other lesson learned should not have been learned. 02:14:16
Is that? 02:14:20
We have to be ready for the next time we have these disasters and. 02:14:20
We're planning that we're going to have. 02:14:24
They'll be stupid if we didn't. 02:14:26
So what does that mean? 02:14:29
That means to me that we should have. 02:14:31
A thorough understanding. 02:14:33
And how to procure these services and account for them so that and contract? 02:14:35
So that we never have this. 02:14:41
There's ladies in the room. 02:14:44
This stuff happened again. 02:14:46
And I'm quite sincere about that. 02:14:48
Is there It was a lesson learned and we have the information now to. 02:14:52
Yeah, to know how to kind of why we hire you guys, right? 02:14:57
That's one of the reasons. 02:15:01
Is there. So that's one thing that we would recommend as well and we can get before for the county years ago. 02:15:02
And got you under a bunch of different contracts on call contracts to handle. 02:15:09
All of those situations. 02:15:12
A lot of time lapse between your previous disaster and this one. 02:15:15
And those contracts left your procurement ages changed, all those kind of things and they just kind of fell away it seems like. 02:15:19
The data is still there. You still have that in your procurement department to be able to. 02:15:24
Go back and reference all those. 02:15:28
But. 02:15:31
Would highly recommend. 02:15:32
Making sure you get all that on call. 02:15:33
Prepare your contracting all your. 02:15:36
Rules everything set in stone. 02:15:38
It makes it so much easier for your management to go out there and say. 02:15:41
This is what we know how to use. This is where it is know what it's going to cost. 02:15:44
Across the board. 02:15:48
Yeah, yeah. 02:15:49
We might need your ongoing mentorship for our. 02:15:51
For our procurement. 02:15:55
Department. I love what Nick's doing. He's really doing a great job, but. 02:15:56
He's still new too, so he's going to need some help that way. 02:16:01
And perhaps we'll quote, take advantage of our lawyers as well. 02:16:04
We've got several boilerplates that we can provide him. 02:16:09
That he could utilize. 02:16:12
Beds have been approved through FEMA on. 02:16:14
What needs to be done thing? 02:16:17
Perfect. So make that happen because as you well know. 02:16:18
The next fire is tomorrow. 02:16:22
I think tomorrow. 02:16:25
So. So we have to be ready now. Let's don't hold. 02:16:28
Don't wait for us to get. 02:16:32
Through this, you know you got to work in parallel. 02:16:34
Yes, they're fine. We have to work in peril. Not seriously. 02:16:36
And so I really encourage you to do that. We need to help and we need, we cannot go through this. 02:16:38
This again. 02:16:45
And I don't know. 02:16:50
Who, who was eating down there at the you know. 02:16:51
We're going to have to fix that. 02:16:54
Outrageous. 02:17:00
Any questions? 02:17:01
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate it. 02:17:04
Alright. 02:17:08
So I think, I think what we could do now I'm trying to. 02:17:13
Make sure that we. 02:17:16
Make a rolling black white board. You keep talking, but I want to persuade that. 02:18:03
OK. 02:18:07
Chairman 30. Commissioners Aaron 3/1. 02:18:12
Emergency services director for Lincoln County. 02:18:15
So what we're talking about here is. 02:18:18
We were notified that we received $1,000,000 from capital outlay this year to. 02:18:22
Planet design and construct. 02:18:27
Strategic water reservoirs throughout the county. 02:18:29
What we're wanting to focus on with these strategic water reservoirs is. 02:18:33
The fire station. 02:18:37
On most of our fire stations are very well centrally located. 02:18:38
And they provide good filling points for. 02:18:43
Our fire apparatus. 02:18:48
So before you, what I handed out this morning is kind of a ranking sheet. 02:18:53
Of how we rank each one of those fire stations. 02:18:57
Based on who we or which fire station we think would benefit the most from the. 02:19:01
These water reservoirs to start off with. 02:19:06
That kind of hurts people behind it. 02:19:29
Saying I can't do anything for you. 02:19:31
So looking at this ranking sheet. 02:19:33
So tended to go back with this. 02:19:40
With this first million dollars. 02:19:44
Definition to the white billboard there. 02:19:49
Good question. Other duties of the song? 02:20:09
Thank you. 02:20:12
Down a little bit. 02:20:27
There we go. 02:20:43
OK, there and the floor is yours. OK, now that we have the map up. 02:20:54
So. 02:21:01
Going back to what this $1,000,000 we're really hoping. 02:21:02
And we think that we can achieve numbers one through 5 on the ranking sheet. 02:21:06
So on the map, if you guys can see that. 02:21:11
Everything that's marked in green. 02:21:16
Is the fire station that has a fire hydrant that is connected to a community water system? 02:21:19
Meaning it's a private water system, a municipal water system, something like that. They have a hydrant at that station that's 02:21:23
connected to that system. 02:21:27
The blue ones. 02:21:32
Our fire stations that currently have a standalone. 02:21:33
Strategic water reservoir. 02:21:37
Meaning 30 to 40,000 gallons with a pump and a hydrant. 02:21:40
And then the red ones. 02:21:45
Our fire stations with. 02:21:46
No water systems whatsoever, so they do not have a hydrant. 02:21:48
Connected to community system and they do not have. 02:21:51
A strategic water reservoir. 02:21:54
And on that map you can see two of those fire stations have that red marking on them. 02:21:57
Those are going to be the Copper Ridge Fire Station, operated by the Benito Volunteer Fire Department. 02:22:03
And the Potato fire station or Hondo Fire station #2 operated by the Hondo Valley Volunteer Fire Department. 02:22:07
Those two are ranked number one and two on our list. 02:22:14
Name #3 and #4 on the list are existing water systems. 02:22:19
So the Sunkara Fire Station, operated by the Veneer Volunteer Fire Department, currently has the 40,000 gallons. 02:22:24
With the pump, however, they do not have a fire header. 02:22:31
So we would need to go in and kind of retro that. 02:22:34
That system to put a fire hydrant on it. 02:22:37
To make it fully compliant. 02:22:40
And then #4 is Glencoe Fire Station 2. 02:22:43
They have 30,000 gallons of water. 02:22:47
They have a pump and they have a hydrant. 02:22:49
So they do meet the basic specifications, however, with where that station sits. 02:22:52
And how that and how that system was originally designed? 02:22:57
It is not connected to a well. 02:23:01
And it is not a rain catchment system. 02:23:03
So having an additional 10,000 gallons of storage on that system. 02:23:05
And putting a water catchment to that system. 02:23:09
Would be major, major benefit. 02:23:12
And then #5 which is no doubt Fire Station 1. 02:23:15
Also known as the Forsythe Fire Station, operated by the Nogal Volunteer Fire Department. 02:23:19
They have a hydrant that is connected to a community water system. However, that community water system does not have very much 02:23:25
storage. 02:23:28
So we have a hard time getting that system recognized by ISO. 02:23:32
And if we do, in the event that we do have an incident within that. 02:23:37
Stations coverage area. 02:23:41
The minute we hook into their hydrants, we have the chance of draining their capacity down below their their minimums. 02:23:43
So we believe that having a water, a standalone system. 02:23:51
At that fire station to be a major benefit. 02:23:54
So looking at numbers. 02:23:58
One through 5. 02:23:59
That would be 3 complete water systems. 02:24:01
Meaning 40,000 gallons of storage, a pump and a hydrant all installed at those stations. 02:24:04
And then numbers 3 and 4 would be just going in and. 02:24:10
Bringing those. 02:24:14
Systems up to compliance. 02:24:16
And like I said before, we think that we have a really good shot depending on contractors and how we actually get these bids. We 02:24:19
think that we have a shot at being able to accomplish numbers one through 5 on this list. 02:24:24
With this first $1,000,000 that we received in ICICI. 02:24:31
I will stand for the. 02:24:37
So once we actually get the money in place and all that, yes, we are looking at going after an RFP for. 02:24:59
Our contractors do install all of these. 02:25:05
Systems. 02:25:07
So. 02:25:16
Just looking earlier. 02:25:20
Do you feel like those are those are at the spots? 02:25:24
That can do most good. We talked about transport. 02:25:27
Refresh time. 02:25:30
To get to. 02:25:31
Our high risk areas where the values are and the fuels are. 02:25:33
Yes, Sir. So looking at the Copper Ridge Fire Station. 02:25:36
That station services all of the Angus area. 02:25:40
And then Copper Ridge, Copper Canyon, all of that, the closest fill site to that station currently is back at the top of Angus 02:25:44
Hill. So whenever you imagine a a large water tender. 02:25:49
Once it spins all of its water on scene, it's got to travel all the way back up Angus. 02:25:54
At probably a pretty slow rate of speed, get water and then come back down, which is also wear and tear on the vehicle, wear and 02:26:01
tear on the brakes. So having a water system at that station. 02:26:06
Would be a major benefit. 02:26:11
Looking at the Picacho fire station in the valley. 02:26:13
The closest fill site to that station is going to be back at Hondo Fire Station 1, which is right at the Hondo Senior Center. 02:26:16
Just north of the 7380 junction there. 02:26:24
That area we see a lot of grass fires. 02:26:28
We're looking at a lot of ranch landing stuff out there and so to have those vehicles traveling back into Hondo to get water and 02:26:30
then all the way back out to the scenes. 02:26:34
We spend a lot of fuel, a lot of wear and tear, a lot of drive time on those vehicles, so having that water system closer to where 02:26:39
we catch a lot of those fires is is going to be a major, major benefit. 02:26:44
For that area. 02:26:49
And then looking at numbers 3 and 4, Sonterra and Glencoe Fire Station 2, that's just on the benefit those existing systems. 02:26:51
Bringing them up to ISO compliance. 02:26:59
And making them. 02:27:01
Better use systems. 02:27:03
And then Nogal Fire Station 1. 02:27:04
It's kind of A2 fold thing. We're benefiting the community with that one because we're not going to be draining their system as 02:27:08
much. 02:27:11
As well as that area Sir, or that station services a very large area including Nogal Canyon all the way out to 8 mile. 02:27:15
There's quite a bit of housing in there, it's all urban interface. 02:27:23
Having that water close to where we have quicker turn around times for those water tenders is going to be a huge benefit. 02:27:26
Girl in good shape. 02:27:33
From that, from a water standpoint. 02:27:35
So Corona has a municipal water system and their municipal municipal fire department. So we don't really have much to do with 02:27:36
them. 02:27:40
We could explore that further down the road if they wanted to, kind of. 02:27:44
Joining forces with us. 02:27:49
Later down the road. 02:27:51
Well, you know, I just, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking that the interface the the distance between corona. 02:27:52
You know, always cares. 02:27:58
I'm thinking that as a vulnerable area and they've we've had fires out there in that region. 02:28:01
And then really at 2:46. 02:28:07
As well. 02:28:10
Gets gets pretty. 02:28:12
Pretty dry out there, a lot of grass down there floors. 02:28:14
Over there and I know that. 02:28:17
Our friends that live out towards Mile High. 02:28:19
You know at that. 02:28:22
Those extreme ends of Lincoln County. 02:28:24
They they have some needs too, so. 02:28:27
I I don't see any problem with this. I think it's. 02:28:30
It's a good plan. 02:28:32
With what you have. 02:28:33
But you know, maybe in the future we would start thinking about even places. 02:28:35
That don't even have. 02:28:39
A Volunteer Fire Department. 02:28:43
But we know that we're going to need a water reservoir. 02:28:44
Maybe times of emergency? Just just the thought. 02:28:48
The depot, you know, like we can change horses back in the old days, right so. 02:28:53
So we could. 02:28:59
We could do the same thing. 02:29:00
I would love to look at that for future project. 02:29:02
Chairman. Yes, Sir. Mr. Chairman, does this plan include any water collection systems? 02:29:05
Yes. So all of these systems will be rain catchment systems as well. 02:29:12
So don't get gutter systems on their fire stations. 02:29:16
Directing all that water into the tanks. Do any of these other current? 02:29:19
Fire departments already have water collection systems in place. 02:29:24
Yes, so. 02:29:27
We'll take numbers 12 and 13 for example. Those are the 2 new ones that we just built. 02:29:30
At Glencoe Station number one and Hondo station #1. 02:29:35
Both of those systems have. 02:29:39
Brain catchment systems. 02:29:41
As well as #11 the Nogales Station 2 or the Abbey and Fire Station. 02:29:43
Is a rain catchment system as well. 02:29:48
Can be in the plan Aaron to help facilitate some of these other departments. 02:29:50
You know, compensating some of that water with with those rain collection systems. Can we do that at the same time? 02:29:55
Yes, yes. And so looking at #4 on the list, which is one that we hope to accomplish. 02:30:00
Along I don't think that it made it into the narrative there, but along with that additional 10,000 gallons of storage. 02:30:07
We want to put a ring catchment system on that station as well. 02:30:13
So you've already you've already included. 02:30:16
Those types of projections. 02:30:19
Yeah. 02:30:20
Anybody else? Any other questions or comments? 02:30:26
My only comment as I sit here and look at this map, you see these large areas. 02:30:29
Primarily rural branches without any. 02:30:34
And to your point, I think. 02:30:37
There's at some point there can be a network or some contact made with. 02:30:39
Ranchers that have water storage systems in those areas that fit you were mentioned earlier. 02:30:44
Perhaps have an agreement, some sort work if there's an emergency there that you can't have into that water. 02:30:49
Just set up some of those. 02:30:55
Maybe not necessarily need the infrastructure owned by. 02:30:56
The county of the. 02:30:59
Fire departments perhaps ingredients with the locations and some. 02:31:01
Some awareness of. 02:31:05
Is there Commissioner Fisher? 02:31:07
Or Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Wilson. 02:31:08
That's a very good point, and we do have a lot of those agreements already in place. 02:31:11
A lot of them are focused more than the valley, but we do have some out like windmill ranches area. 02:31:15
Some of the stuff north of Capitan along Hwy. 2 weeks if you do already have agreements in place. 02:31:20
Where we can actually use those ranchers water systems if they have enough water to allow us to use them. 02:31:26
I know that's kind of a hard thing right now with everybody being so dry. We've run into a couple of ranchers that they just 02:31:32
didn't have the water to loan us at the time, but. 02:31:36
We do have some of those agreements already in place. 02:31:40
Yes. And that is something else that we're bringing online too, so with the road departments. 02:31:44
4000 gallon water tuners. You guys have three of them recurrently. 02:31:49
We're working on getting some fittings and stuff to make sure that those trucks hook up to the fire trucks. 02:31:53
And so in the event that we get a fire, we're going to be. 02:31:58
Asking the road department for some help and bringing those trucks out as well. That way we can use. 02:32:01
Use that water. I think that is that's absolutely fantastic. That's the kind of out-of-the-box thinking. 02:32:06
That will make us successful. 02:32:12
Mr. Rhodes, Superintendent, is that going to be done? 02:32:15
Chairman Fisher Commissioners Jeff Honeycutt, Lincoln County Road Superintendent the Fittings. 02:32:18
Just a matter of getting the trucks hooked up, We're ready to go. 02:32:24
Well, when is that going to be done? 02:32:26
We're we're ready to go. 02:32:28
We can get the fittings on our trucks and ready to go. 02:32:30
This afternoon. 02:32:35
And I'm being stupid, you know, but, but I, you know. 02:32:36
I want you to come in. 02:32:44
And and if you need resources from your body. 02:32:46
Come and ask for it. 02:32:49
But I want this done because. 02:32:50
Remember I told you the fire is tomorrow? 02:32:53
I mean. 02:32:55
Tomorrow. 02:32:57
So currently as it sits, we have. 02:32:58
Yes, we have used the road department tenders in the past. I know you guys have, but you just pointed out a very good. 02:33:00
Capability. 02:33:06
That would it's force. It's a force multiplier. 02:33:07
Right. Yeah, it. 02:33:10
It's a fourth multiplier. 02:33:12
So make it happen. 02:33:13
Tested test the the notion. 02:33:14
Before you actually have to use it. 02:33:17
And come back to this body. 02:33:19
Next week. 02:33:20
Or next time we meet. 02:33:21
And tell us how you did that. 02:33:25
Because we like to see. I think that. 02:33:26
That is just perfect. 02:33:27
That's perfect. Thank you. 02:33:29
You already have the quick couplers right now. 02:33:31
Catalogs all that good stuff that to already. 02:33:36
Adapt from years to years. 02:33:39
The boys need training team. Actually, they don't have to. 02:33:43
All right. Thank you so much. 02:33:47
You're very good. We really like that. 02:33:50
That's that's, that's not just planning, that's doing. And that's what we're interested in. We want. 02:33:55
That's so many damn plans that you never do anything with. 02:33:59
We want it done right. 02:34:02
Perfect. 02:34:04
OK. 02:34:06
Our fee for electrical maintenance services. 02:34:07
Satisfied with the process. 02:34:15
And I guess I thought we had jumped the gun a little bit on this one. 02:34:17
Because I'm, you know, kind of new jumping into it. 02:34:28
But technically I believe this could have been. 02:34:31
Potentially approved at the last Commission meeting just due to the fact of our resolution on purchasing policy. 02:34:34
All it takes is the manager we follow. 02:34:41
Managers leave on if we can, go after an RFP if they say we can. 02:34:43
You can. I believe there was discussion on the needs for the county. 02:34:46
And that's just what I wanted to go over the multiple needs. 02:34:51
That we have, I guess, in this situation. 02:34:54
Small things from the lighting. 02:35:00
The lighting here. 02:35:01
Could be upgraded, you know, so we could charge them for electricity. 02:35:03
That's just a small thing, but umm. 02:35:07
And some of the building that's like highly needed, I believe in the detention center. 02:35:09
Providing has to get upgraded I believe. 02:35:14
And I'm not 100%. 02:35:17
Where all the all the situations, but you know the. 02:35:19
The Breakers need to be labeled. 02:35:25
Due to the Fire Marshall requesting that we. 02:35:27
The following emergency situation, they need to be labeled not only here, but. 02:35:30
And a couple of senior centers. 02:35:34
And I believe that alone. 02:35:36
I mean, it's it's. 02:35:37
Those can be recalling processes. That alone can kick us above 60,000. We're going to have to up an RFP. 02:35:39
On the list of. 02:35:45
This one is finalized, but we can. 02:35:48
Go back out again. 02:35:51
Let me do it again at your request. 02:35:52
And also in the purchasing policy, we love to. 02:35:55
You know it's your. 02:35:59
To bring it. 02:36:00
Before you let y'all know, I want to always continue to do that. 02:36:02
It is the manager's discretion to. 02:36:05
Do that but. 02:36:07
Technically. 02:36:09
You thought to me I'm agreement before you to get them approved, let's go after. 02:36:10
So other than that. 02:36:14
There was more I can't remember off the top of my head. Is there anymore? 02:36:17
There's multiple electrical. 02:36:22
Needs county just like plumbing or VAC. 02:36:25
You definitely need the service. 02:36:28
I believe in this kind of, it's definitely going to be about 60,000 why we went up to the. 02:36:31
Chairman. Commissioners. 02:36:37
We need an electrical contractor. 02:36:38
But it does the boxes in a price. 02:36:40
Because, you know, like the tariffs and all that, in four years everything's going to go up. 02:36:42
Could go up tomorrow. 02:36:46
So what I. 02:36:48
Someone locked in. 02:36:49
So price where they can increase in the next four years. 02:36:51
That's the main thing for the contract for us. 02:36:56
It has to do with the detention center, with those fire departments. 02:37:00
You're all locked in. It's locked in. 02:37:04
We're going with the cheapest price. 02:37:06
Additionally, Chairman, commissioners too. 02:37:12
There's emergency holidays. 02:37:14
Things like that and the price just. 02:37:17
Or limits if they have to come out on those days. 02:37:19
We and. 02:37:22
We know the scoring because of the. 02:37:26
The agenda? I don't know. 02:37:29
You know who was going? 02:37:31
For electronically. 02:37:33
They did do some work for us recently as well and they were here at 5:00 in the morning. 02:37:34
They provided excellent service for us. 02:37:38
Right out as they were. 02:37:41
Score the highest and they were on the agenda. Who? 02:37:45
To approve this online Commission. 02:37:48
So damn. 02:37:50
Additionally, have. 02:37:52
If you've seen the server room, it is like exceptional work that they've done. 02:37:53
And the work that they know all the county buildings, they know the history. 02:37:57
If comments on the work. 02:38:01
Or the. 02:38:02
I mean like the generator and stuff he was explaining earlier here. 02:38:05
Quick, I mean, it's not like, excuse me for a second, but I have a problem. 02:38:11
Sending my money. 02:38:16
Out of out of the county. 02:38:18
Well, there's a great procurement code. 02:38:21
The only questions we can have. 02:38:25
Without breaking the state. 02:38:27
When it stays inside the state. 02:38:28
Not the county. 02:38:30
So for example, if two RFP's if someone like in Arizona. 02:38:33
And New Mexico, they both. 02:38:37
Scored really well, but Arizona scored better. 02:38:39
And we were going to go with Arizona. 02:38:41
The only preference we could have is to go with the one inside the state. 02:38:43
But we cannot do that inside accounting. It's. 02:38:47
The the state procurement code is for the state. 02:38:49
It's not for per county. 02:38:53
So it's just it won't break the state law. 02:38:54
We do have. We cannot do it. 02:38:57
Just a quick question. 02:39:00
I don't remember, but didn't we go through this process? Why didn't we have that last? 02:39:03
Because it was directed like 2 years ago that we go out for RFP. 02:39:09
And then they just did recently. 02:39:13
Technically, I didn't come before the conventional control. 02:39:15
Approval, Darcy. 02:39:18
But in the in the purchasing policy running into managers. 02:39:20
Approval and managers discretion. A request that could come before the Commission gets your approval. 02:39:23
So I'd like to always do that. 02:39:29
But that that's at the managers discretion. 02:39:31
Inside the purchasing, well this this manager was interested in getting. 02:39:33
Some understanding from the body. 02:39:38
And some agreement that. 02:39:41
Fact What the conditions were they are P What were we looking for? 02:39:43
The RFP reflected. 02:39:48
The sentiment of the body. 02:39:51
I think that's that's why we're here today. 02:39:53
And I'd like to know how it was scored and graded, just like all our RFP's being. 02:39:55
Take three to five people from the town. 02:40:01
They can be people that may have. 02:40:05
Experienced work with. 02:40:08
The electrician or. 02:40:11
Like for example if they worked on the jail we may be. 02:40:13
Sheriff's Office. We may pull somebody from the Sheriff's Office to score. 02:40:17
We try to get unbiased. 02:40:20
Of the whole process. 02:40:22
Is supposed to be completely unbiased and you can also view 1. 02:40:24
I found out. 02:40:28
That you're able to if you want to view it, but you. 02:40:29
Would have to essentially set at the back of the room here if you'd like. 02:40:32
Because any of the information upon the scoring sheets, it's not supposed to go out. 02:40:36
Of the scoring. 02:40:40
So you as a commissioner, you could view it. It's not open to the public, but you, commissioner, you could view it as you 02:40:42
requested. 02:40:45
Last Commission meeting. 02:40:48
But any information that's on the sheets or anything like that, the scoring and the process. 02:40:50
It's not supposed to leave. 02:40:54
I understand. 02:40:56
Yeah, so you can. 02:40:57
It's a It's a very simple, basic process and it doesn't take very long, so we have it done within an hour. 02:41:00
Essentially, we come in here and we have the RFP. 02:41:06
Only the RFP's that have a full entire packet. 02:41:09
Let's request if anything is missing that RFP is taken out. 02:41:13
Unless some we can. 02:41:16
Make every attempt. We can't get that packet filled. There are a few big. 02:41:17
Medical calls me and then. 02:41:22
We do the basic scoring, it's great and. 02:41:24
On everything that's inside the RFP is the only thing that can be used to be scoring the scoring? 02:41:27
Inside you, if you're ready, we. 02:41:33
Requirements from this. 02:41:35
Mr. Chair, I have concern because I requested a list of. 02:41:37
Invoices from this. 02:41:41
Contractor, you were representing and. 02:41:44
Trying to shine the positive light on. 02:41:46
And there wasn't a single building permit to go along with those invoices. 02:41:49
And I know he had mentioned he was going to replace an entire panel. 02:41:53
That's concerning that we didn't have a building permit to check quality control. 02:41:57
At a commercial building. 02:42:01
You read it, there's little fuse boxes. All he did is face an existing. 02:42:04
Battle for us, understand? 02:42:11
After. 02:42:14
Occupation if they need a permit, you think? 02:42:16
You wouldn't know if we're going to get one. 02:42:18
All you doing is. 02:42:20
Doing replacing. 02:42:22
Fixtures. 02:42:24
The town at one time. 02:42:25
We're not. We're not doing new construction. 02:42:28
I need permits from new construction. From our my understanding some. 02:42:31
Creating a new existing new system. A new system. 02:42:35
Essentially, I'd like you to verify that with the increase. 02:42:41
Yeah. 02:42:44
Because I believe if you're good, I. 02:42:46
Change the panel on a. 02:42:48
On a commercial building that you need to. 02:42:50
I believe it wasn't changed. 02:42:58
How it was worked on it, I believe correctly, but we'll, yeah, we'll figure it out. 02:43:00
So what action you're looking for today? 02:43:06
I would like to. 02:43:09
Approve the RFP if possible. If not, we can go back out for it and just. 02:43:10
Creates a little bit work, more work I don't mind doing for us to redo the RFP. 02:43:14
I'll send it out and have it rescored again. 02:43:18
But at this time it should be ready for approval due to the fact that the previous manager. 02:43:21
You know, had suggested we go out for it. 02:43:28
Due to the situation that's not currently having one if you guys. 02:43:30
Thought you would. 02:43:34
You need to go out for a new RFP. When When was this let? When when did this RFP? 02:43:35
So now on. 02:43:40
Let me get the dates here real quick for you. 02:43:42
February. 02:43:45
Believe it was. 02:43:47
January. 02:43:50
It was. 02:43:53
January 30th. 02:44:00
This year. 02:44:02
OK, here's my my recommendation to. 02:44:03
To more I would like. 02:44:09
For us to review the RFP. 02:44:12
Just the the the request for proposals. 02:44:14
I want to make sure there's some things in that specifically that I'm not sure. 02:44:18
There they are. 02:44:22
And I think we also should go out again. 02:44:24
In view of the time lateness between the initial response. 02:44:27
And what the data is currently? 02:44:32
Does that does that make sense? Do I have any? 02:44:35
Consensus here on the board with that that action. 02:44:39
Yes, I want to see this going to work. 02:44:42
Exactly. You want to review the stuff and work for. 02:44:45
Technical, uh. 02:44:47
Mostly for the technical. 02:44:48
Requirements that are in it. 02:44:50
And another time like this, does that make sense? And I think we can make. 02:44:52
Make quick work of this. 02:44:56
All right. So, so we have an action that says approval to issue an RFP for electrical maintenance services. 02:44:59
I suppose I would. I would. 02:45:09
I would entertain a motion that says. 02:45:13
Approval to issue a new RFP after technical review by. 02:45:16
After technical. 02:45:21
Is that is that a reasonable motion to someone? But. 02:45:26
But then, Mr. Chairman, I just have a quick comment. 02:45:29
So we, we, we already went through this whole process. 02:45:32
Then we have the the award on our agenda for last meeting. So I don't believe that we're actually too late. 02:45:35
To do that. 02:45:42
It seems like we're just recreating the wheel. 02:45:43
To do it all, yeah. 02:45:45
To award the contract, that's done. 02:45:48
Over $100,000 worth of unpermitted work at our facilities. You want to award it to him? 02:45:52
I don't know. I don't have the proof that it was unpermitted work. 02:45:57
So. 02:46:01
So. 02:46:08
Proceed. 02:46:09
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, essentially the scope. 02:46:15
Is the same as the previous one that was. 02:46:19
Presented, I believe it was in 2023. 02:46:21
It's the same scope. 02:46:25
If you all had a chance to review at that point, just. 02:46:27
You know, just a side note. 02:46:30
2023 duplication of the same. 02:46:32
As a duplication of the same RFP essentially. 02:46:35
They weren't seated at the time, so yeah, I know you two were. I was just saying. 02:46:38
In terms of the scope, so it hasn't changed much to slipped on and. 02:46:42
Let's go. My recommendation still stands. 02:46:50
I want to attend a motion. 02:46:53
We can vote for it or not to approve the. 02:46:55
That what's on the table right now. 02:46:57
Has approved the RFP that's been scored already by the board. 02:46:59
Somebody make that motion, We have a 2nd and we will vote on it. 02:47:06
Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve. 02:47:11
The award for the. 02:47:14
Orthopedic studies for. 02:47:16
It doesn't say that about them to issue on our electric maintenance services. 02:47:18
I don't have anything to say on the agenda. 02:47:23
But this is to issue in our people. We're not ready to. 02:47:31
What we're doing is we're. 02:47:36
We're proving, I agree that. 02:47:38
That it's myth written here. 02:47:40
You have an RFP. You've gone through the process. 02:47:43
The board, Your RFP. 02:47:46
Scoring board awarded it for recommended. 02:47:48
And awarding. 02:47:51
You know that's what's on the table, though. That's not what the agenda is. We can't just make up a new agenda item. 02:47:55
I tend to agree with Commissioner. 02:48:02
Wilson, that is particularly, I don't know. 02:48:05
Second, his function. 02:48:08
Hey, discussion. 02:48:13
So this is to issue an RFP. 02:48:19
Not to award. 02:48:22
We haven't seen this couple words, so how are we going to issue Murphy? 02:48:29
I recommend we table this. I'm not going to. 02:48:35
However, we're not. 02:48:40
Take action on this. 02:48:43
Mr. Chair, if I may, yes, please. 02:48:46
I think because of the confusion. 02:48:48
That's going on. I think that the tabling it would be my recommendation. 02:48:50
And then maybe we can straighten out the language on the agenda item for the next time. 02:48:54
And maybe get whatever information. 02:48:58
Anybody wants? Yeah. 02:49:01
Scope of work, Yeah, Thank you. I agree with that. 02:49:04
So I recommend we table this. 02:49:07
There's any motion? 02:49:17
What are you willing to do that? 02:49:21
I would prefer just to vote on it, Chairman. 02:49:23
Clerk. 02:49:29
What is the motion? The motion is to approve. 02:49:31
That's what's on. 02:49:33
That's what's actually pond air. Whether it's on the agenda or not, I'm going to say no. 02:49:35
Because it's. 02:49:39
Mr. Chairman, at this point I will mention my motion. 02:49:40
OK, so now we can move on to tabling. 02:49:45
Table. 02:49:49
So now can we table? 02:49:53
#18. 02:49:57
To wait, how? 02:50:01
Thanks motion to table. 02:50:04
Unable to issue an RFP. Collectible maintenance services. 02:50:06
When I make that motion, please. 02:50:11
I motion to table agenda item number 18 RFP for electrical maintenance and services. 02:50:15
2nd. 02:50:22
I have a second second. 02:50:24
Madam Clerk. 02:50:27
Commissioner Serna. 02:50:30
Aye, Commissioner Chavez. 02:50:32
Aye, Commissioner Wilson. 02:50:34
Commissioner Prater. 02:50:36
No. 02:50:37
Motion passes through. 02:50:40
So I'll cancel the queue. 02:50:44
I'll get with you and we'll work this out, get it on the and we'll make this happen. 02:50:46
Yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll unscrew this. 02:50:53
Alright. 02:50:57
Once again, I'm just preparing these services it needs to. 02:51:01
OK #19. 02:51:07
I think you're on. You're on deck again. 02:51:11
The reviewing the state statute. 02:51:13
And our purchasing policy and cut a small. 02:51:22
The. 02:51:28
If everybody lives, these are essentially on 2.9. 02:51:32
And resolution. I provided the red line version and the actual change. 02:51:36
You see on 2.9. 02:51:42
Previously we've had. 02:51:50
$5000 or less. 02:51:55
It's just for the price of that. 02:51:57
About $5000. 02:52:01
Everyone is required. 02:52:03
You get 3 quotes. 02:52:05
For the vendor, the vendors are going to use. 02:52:06
And this is just causing a lot of extra time. 02:52:10
Everybody got other jobs. 02:52:14
It doesn't count that much time, but. 02:52:16
In reviewing the. 02:52:19
Statute in the back I've also included in this. 02:52:21
These are statutes that references. 02:52:24
So that you can see. 02:52:27
But anything below $20,000? 02:52:29
It's up to us, a local public party. 02:52:32
To essentially do with the shoes. 02:52:35
So if you all want, we can leave it. The way we're doing is to go up for the free quotes or we can save. 02:52:37
The whole county a little bit of time when going up for those 3 Christmas or. 02:52:42
$20,000 Mark. 02:52:46
And although that will be section A essentially. 02:52:47
Above the 20 to 60,000 is rough. I get the three 105 coats. 02:52:54
The state federal purchasing contract or cooperative agreement. 02:52:58
What I've done as well is kind of just. 02:53:02
Break that down so it's a lot easier to read, and separate it from the paragraph. 02:53:04
Just so that. 02:53:09
Play either for our county to understand the policy. 02:53:10
I've actually since I've started I've had to e-mail this to about four or five different. 02:53:14
You know entity just so we can be clear. 02:53:18
On how to follow our procurement policy and purchasing policy essentially. 02:53:21
And I've also just seen. 02:53:25
Below that after $60,000 in regret for RFP or ITV. 02:53:28
And I've. 02:53:34
Put the definition there. 02:53:35
Just so we all can see that. 02:53:36
Let me help everyone else. 02:53:38
Out as well to. 02:53:40
Get the definition as to you. 02:53:41
When it's best to go for ITV? 02:53:43
OK, KRC. 02:53:46
Or the. 02:53:48
RFP's. 02:53:50
And, umm. 02:53:52
So additionally, if you'd like me to go over any of the changes and how they link to the state statutes, I have. 02:53:55
So I'm going to interrupt here. 02:54:02
I thought we were going to go to 10,000. 02:54:05
Envelope didn't require. 02:54:07
We weren't going to upon reviewing state statute in the back. 02:54:09
The very first page, Yep. 02:54:13
Of the holdings. 02:54:15
It only in the section C here in red. 02:54:18
The very first one. 02:54:23
We were, I was going to go with the 10,000 and add it on there, but just essentially. 02:54:25
There's just no point here. The price of everything is going up ridiculously. 02:54:29
With the tariff potentially coming in. 02:54:33
It's just probably. 02:54:36
Extra work essentially. 02:54:37
I believe this is the old kind of update policy. 02:54:39
And, you know, work with Mike to review it, you know, and ensure that her policies that you. 02:54:42
So essentially, you know. 02:54:48
On the state statute for small purchases and what this is. 02:54:50
Nothing was standing with the requirement or not withstanding the requirements of subsection 8 of the section. 02:54:54
State agency or local public body making your services. 02:54:59
Construction or items of tangible. 02:55:03
Personal umm. 02:55:05
Property having a value not exceeding $20,000. 02:55:06
Yeah, I realized more compliant with the status. So essentially. 02:55:10
It's. You could implement it, but it's just. 02:55:15
Simply not not needed as a function that's. 02:55:19
The fire service, you know, the Volunteer Fire departments, I know. That's why we wanted it 5 to 10. 02:55:25
Is this going to help more from 10 to 20? 02:55:31
Chairman. Fisher, Commissioners. 02:55:34
It will help. 02:55:37
These volunteers are spending a lot of their time going out for three quotes because. 02:55:38
Let's face it, anytime you put fire in front of anything, it's going to cost more. 02:55:44
So with our current limits, they're having to go out and get a lot of quotes to buy their equipment. 02:55:49
So this will help our fire departments tremendously. 02:55:55
In that in 10,000 doesn't give you that threshold you're looking for. 02:55:58
10,000 would be nice, but 20,000 would be. 02:56:02
Really, really nice. 02:56:05
May I put in for a second? I'm I'm a volunteer fireman. 02:56:09
For a Nobel. 02:56:14
We bought, we just purchased radios. 02:56:15
We actually had to do. 02:56:17
We bought 4 radios and we had to do 4. 02:56:20
Separate. 02:56:23
Get 4 separate bins and everything else I I believe that the $60,000. 02:56:26
Or the $20,000? 02:56:31
Would help a lot on the fire departments. 02:56:34
OK. 02:56:37
Why did you have to get separate? 02:56:38
Because #5000. 02:56:40
$30 and. 02:56:42
Radio. 02:56:43
To like just how much where they are, do you remember? I don't remember. I did not see that one come through, but. 02:56:45
I I believe that those radios were every bit of $5000 or more. 02:56:52
Just. 02:56:59
All four of them in the same invoice. 02:56:59
That's up to the Fire Chief how he sent it into us and that's how we pushed it to procurement. 02:57:01
You needed to get 3. 02:57:14
Three quotes for each. 02:57:16
Start to send. Is that what you're saying? No? 02:57:17
Yeah, I mean somebody's. 02:57:20
Things I think in it is there's some secret magic water that I'm not aware of. 02:57:22
I I would I would entertain a motion to. 02:57:27
I have a speaker. 02:57:30
Please. 02:57:32
I like the lower purchasing threshold because it strengthens fiscal oversight. 02:57:33
And it encourages competitive procurement, which we haven't been seeing. 02:57:38
And I think that. 02:57:42
It enforces them doing their due diligence, requiring those or formal fit. 02:57:44
At these lower levels to make sure that public funds are spent responsibly. 02:57:49
And I'm trying to work towards preventing waste and favoritism. 02:57:54
While upholding our purchasing policy. 02:57:58
So he's suggesting you like to go to 10,000 instead of 20? 02:58:01
Any comments? 02:58:09
OK, so. 02:58:15
To another discussions or comments on that. 02:58:18
I will entertain a motion approving regarding resolution 2025-51. 02:58:21
Revising Lincoln County purchasing policy. 02:58:28
Right. 02:58:31
I know that we. 02:58:34
Adopt resolution 2025. 02:58:36
Dash 51 but I wanted to. 02:58:40
10,000. 02:58:43
Anything up to? 02:58:46
Over 10,000 requires to close. 02:58:47
The motions on the table. 02:58:53
For what's being presented to us at 20,000. 02:58:55
Well, that's that's what the resolution states, right? 02:59:03
Material. 02:59:08
He's recommending to have less work. 02:59:12
Is there anybody else that feels the same way? 02:59:16
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 02:59:19
And would you second that? 02:59:22
Yes, with the with the with the change the caveat that the bill from the 20 to 10. 02:59:24
Yes. 02:59:29
OK. We have a motion to 2nd for that and. 02:59:32
Roll call please. 02:59:35
Commissioners, aye. 02:59:37
For sure, Travis, no. 02:59:39
Yes. 02:59:42
Commissioner Fraser. 02:59:43
Yes. 02:59:44
Aye. 02:59:46
So that's what the that's what the provider that we go from the amount of 20 to 10. 02:59:54
1141. 03:00:08
I think is this is lunch ready? 03:00:10
I know I'm looking at you. I didn't mean to ask you. 03:00:20
Hey, George. 03:00:25
Can you look and focus your head and see if lunch is ready please? 03:00:32
It is. 03:00:37
So so I might make the suggestions we want to go I think after this. 03:00:38
We're going to go on executive session, correct? 03:00:43
What are those? 03:00:48
There's no back. 03:00:52
So. 03:00:54
20 and 21 there was no backup material for. 03:00:55
Revising the Lincoln County. 03:00:59
Kind of capital asset policy, I didn't see anything in there. 03:01:01
And then in 21. 03:01:06
I mean, it's I've got a resolution, right? 03:01:07
Said to change it. 03:01:10
Right. Do you see anything? 03:01:15
And on 21 I didn't see anything so I can't. 03:01:17
We can't act on this when we didn't have anything. 03:01:20
To get prepared for this meeting. 03:01:23
So I crossed the map. 03:01:26
That you understand. 03:01:32
OK, thank you. So we will go to the executive meeting after this and let's I, I recommend we break for lunch. 03:01:33
Let's make a quick. 03:01:42
20 minutes and. 03:01:43
So currently. 03:01:46
1143 Let's let's reconvene at 10 minutes after 12. 03:01:48
It's 1210. 03:02:04
We're reconvening. 03:02:05
After our recess, we've recessed the food. Thank you very much. 03:02:07
We have. 03:02:13
Basically three things to do. 03:02:15
Next and they're They all require being. 03:02:19
So we want to act on at least a couple of them maybe. 03:02:24
Three of them. 03:02:27
So we're going to we're going to do it this way. I consulted with our. 03:02:29
Attorney and we're going to go in executive session we're going to have. 03:02:32
A couple of matters that we want to discuss. This is outside of. 03:02:38
Of you candidates. 03:02:41
We're not going to be discussing it with this. 03:02:43
Session. 03:02:45
Then we're going to come out of executive session, we're going to make some motion to vote on. 03:02:47
On two things, probably. 03:02:52
Depending on how the executive session goes. 03:02:54
Once that's done, that action piece will be gone. 03:02:57
Then we'll come back an executive session, and that's where. 03:03:00
We'll start doing the interview process. We've got 1 online. 03:03:03
Or at least will be called and then we'll call you individually and. 03:03:08
We'll have questions. We'll visit a little bit. 03:03:13
OK. 03:03:15
Is that fair? So I would like to go into executive session. 03:03:17
I would like to make a motion that we went to the second session. 03:03:22
Aye, Commissioner Wilson. 03:03:27
Thank you. 03:03:39
Yeah, you can stand. 03:03:45
Right manifestation. 03:03:47
I attached. Matters discussed in the closed meeting were limited to those specified and no action was taken. 03:03:50
So we need to. 03:04:10
Research from the executive session. 03:04:11
Regular session now. 03:04:16
OK, so the next. 03:04:19
Action items that we have. 03:04:21
Is a vote accepting of the? 03:04:23
Contract A2 year contract with the Deputy Association. 03:04:28
Our deputies here in Lincoln County. 03:04:32
We reviewed it. 03:04:34
So I'll take a mess, a motion, somebody give a motion to. 03:04:36
Approve the agreement. Discuss. 03:04:40
Select second second. 03:04:47
Madam Clerk, roll call. 03:04:52
Real quick, do we need any more specific? 03:04:57
Well, we could say as amended during the executive session. 03:05:00
And then I'll I'll provide. 03:05:06
The exact orbits that we agreed. 03:05:07
Yes. 03:05:17
Mr. Sona. 03:05:18
OK, Commission. 03:05:19
Wilson. 03:05:22
Sure, Fisher. 03:05:24
Right. 03:05:25
So I have to work with you in terms of. 03:05:30
It's really it's very simple change. 03:05:32
OK, now. 03:05:36
You want to sing 27th table. 03:05:38
27. 03:05:41
Yeah, we're in a table. 03:05:42
Yeah. And so the full time position question. 03:05:46
We've tabled that for what's the more? 03:05:51
Investigation and more presentations on that. So we're not going to be talking about that today. 03:05:53
So I need a need a motion. 03:06:02
I move to table item number 27. 03:06:04
A full time position since oral services. 03:06:10
Right. 03:06:15
Until a certain date. 03:06:16
Just sometime in the future, we're going to have a discussion next workshop. 03:06:19
OK, we have a second so we can hear roll call. 03:06:26
Mr. Chavez. 03:06:28
Yes, Commissioner Wilson, Yes. 03:06:29
Commissioner, Sir. 03:06:31
Aye, Commissioner, Appraiser. Yes, Chair Fisher. 03:06:32
Thank you. Now we can go back into executive session. 03:06:35
And we'll ask everybody to leave. We're going to have. 03:06:40
We've got one candidate. 03:06:43
For the county manager, it's going to be calling in. 03:06:45
We're going to get that done and then we'll start calling you in individually for. 03:06:48
Review and discussion. 03:06:54
Do you want to go ahead and sign? 03:07:01
So Shannon, have them when you guys are done with interviews or? 03:07:04
Yeah, we, we, we can see how long it takes. We might just have to wait. 03:07:08
Hi, Paul, I'm ready. 03:07:13
Thank you. 03:07:19
I need to move to. 03:07:20
Mr. Wilson, Chair Fisher. 03:07:38
I intend matters discussed in closing very. 03:07:45
In the closing meeting, we're limited to those specified and no action was taken. 03:07:49
And we're now on regular session. 03:08:00
OK. 03:08:01
So we. 03:08:04
We approved. 03:08:06
The agreement between the County of Lincoln and the Lincoln County Deputy Sheriff's Association. 03:08:13
With one. 03:08:18
Myra amendment. 03:08:20
Was agreed to by. 03:08:22
The Sheriff's Association. 03:08:24
And that reads as follows. 03:08:27
Now read the whole sentence. 03:08:29
The longevity experience and physical fitness incentive. 03:08:32
Applies to all certified sworn law enforcement. 03:08:36
In the collective bargaining unit. 03:08:40
And employed by the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office. 03:08:42
That's it. That includes the change. 03:08:46
So that was the amendment. 03:08:49
That's the amendment. 03:08:50
The specifics of the contract. 03:08:52
When does it take effect? How much OK? 03:08:55
Rate B Specifics of a contract. 03:08:58
What do you want in that? 03:09:02
Usually they state. 03:09:05
When they come out of executive and I become a contract. 03:09:07
They'll give the eight amount. 03:09:10
OK. So when it's going to start in any specific details to pay a bills? 03:09:13
You know, I've got 10 different rates here. You want me to say those? 03:09:18
I will, Sir. 03:09:21
Is there a? 03:09:23
Overall percentage or something? 03:09:24
It's approximately 25 to 30% depending on the rate. 03:09:27
Increase. 03:09:31
I think and I think it's kind of hard. 03:09:34
Speak to that. 03:09:37
But but I. 03:09:39
Takes effect and. 03:09:41
What do you want to do that now? 03:09:43
The agreement shall be effective the first full pay period. 03:09:48
Following the ratification and approval, which we've just done. 03:09:51
Bargaining. 03:09:56
With with between the bargaining unit membership and the county Commission. 03:09:57
And that occurs. 03:10:02
On. 03:10:04
On one July. 03:10:08
28 Five. 03:10:10
This agreement will remain in full force in effect through June 30th, 2027. So it is a 2 year agreement. 03:10:14
Non monetary items may be addressed in fiscal year 2027. 03:10:21
Examples of that might be. 03:10:26
How their uniformly. 03:10:28
Uniform allowances. 03:10:30
The increase? 03:10:36
Range from. 03:10:38
Approximately 20% to 25 or 27% depending on. 03:10:41
The deputy and the number of hours of. 03:10:45
Training accrued. 03:10:48
And also there is a. 03:10:50
Longevity Longevity and experience of. 03:10:52
Physical fitness instead of pay. 03:10:55
Which? 03:10:57
By completing unbroken consecutive service with Lincoln County Sheriff's Office. 03:10:59
And passing that test annually. 03:11:04
The fitness standards are. 03:11:06
The mid range. 03:11:08
Fitness standards that are. 03:11:09
Used at the New Mexico Law Enforcement Academy. 03:11:11
Thank you. 03:11:16
Those numbers, like baby, were. 03:11:19
Round numbers. 03:11:22
Yeah, I don't think something so that. 03:11:24
Whenever we have to go back in a minute and see what we proved, we have something to refer back to otherwise. 03:11:26
What was discussed in executive session? 03:11:33
Doesn't show up for the public and so they have no way to know what's actually approved. OK. 03:11:36
Hopefully that's good enough. 03:11:42
Quick, quick question, Chairman, when it comes down to this particular promise area, know that we have given. 03:11:55