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Are you on Commission meeting September 16th? 00:00:19
2025. 00:00:22
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Morning. 00:00:31
Today is Tuesday, September 16th, 2025. 00:00:32
08/30. 00:00:36
I'm going to call to order this meeting of the Lincoln County. 00:00:37
Board of county. 00:00:40
Madam Clerk will call, please. 00:00:42
Commissioner Serna. 00:00:45
Here, Commissioner Fraser. 00:00:46
Here, Commissioner Chavez, here Commissioner Wilson. 00:00:47
President, Chair Fischer. 00:00:50
Here. 00:00:52
The Commissioner Sarna do like endocaine, please. 00:00:54
Heavenly Father, as a nation we pause to remember the pain. 00:00:58
Of September 11th. 00:01:06
And other moments when violence is struck our people and our principles. 00:01:08
These events remind us how fragile freedom can be. 00:01:12
Yeah, how strong we are when united under the values of our Constitution. 00:01:15
We ask you, Lord, to guide us as leaders. 00:01:19
And bless our community. 00:01:22
And to bless the United States with wisdom, courage, and peace. 00:01:23
Amen. Amen. 00:01:27
Please. 00:01:30
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation. 00:01:37
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:01:42
Perfect friendship. 00:01:48
Thank you very much. 00:01:52
I would like to entertain a motion to approve the agenda. 00:01:58
The ability to move items is necessary. 00:02:02
Do you remember we approved his gender with sure making adjustments? 00:02:06
Roll call please. 00:02:18
Commissioner Wilson. 00:02:20
Commissioner Chano. Yes, Commissioner Chana. 00:02:21
Commissioner Frater, hi. 00:02:23
All right. Thank you. 00:02:26
So item number 2. 00:02:30
We've got. 00:02:32
Updates, reports and announcements, but specifically. 00:02:33
Want to do something? 00:02:36
To this community. 00:02:39
Life saving award presentations. 00:02:42
Sheriff Wood, if you. 00:02:45
With mine, Sir, please come down to the front. 00:02:47
The first award is for Deputy Brett McGuinness. 00:03:15
Deputy McGinnis and you and Sheriff, please. 00:03:23
Call Dennis at the front. 00:03:25
Apologize for the delay. 00:03:27
Coming up here, this is kind of cool. This is a. 00:03:31
Doing these lifesaver awards, they truly mean an awful lot to us. 00:03:34
They mean that. 00:03:38
At some point in time. 00:03:40
In our lives, somebody was spared, and that's exactly what happened here. 00:03:42
I'll lay the groundwork for you. I'll have to refresh my memory. 00:03:46
Put a little bit. This is Deputy McGinnis. 00:03:51
Brett McGuinness. 00:03:54
Many of you know we're. 00:03:55
Rest of your family. 00:03:57
My mother and my brother are doing. 00:03:58
Nice looking family families been here forever and ever. 00:04:01
Alright, so I'm going to lay the groundwork for you. Deputy McGinnis is on duty one night. 00:04:04
What time is it? 00:04:10
Uh, two, yeah. 00:04:11
That two 2:00 in the morning. 00:04:14
They dispatch him to a. 00:04:16
What they tell you is maybe a. 00:04:18
Possible drunk driver. 00:04:21
Something like that reckless driver. 00:04:23
At some point, he ends up out on US 70. 00:04:25
Again, keep in mind This Is Us 70. 00:04:30
About 2:00 in the morning, my marker 288 puts you. 00:04:32
Roughly San Patricio, something like that. 00:04:36
Hands up seeing a vehicle in the middle of park in the. 00:04:40
Outside lanes. 00:04:43
Incident in the hammer in the inside. So if they're in the inside. 00:04:44
The vehicle is lights are out. 00:04:49
Lights are on, but they're. 00:04:51
So he thinks maybe look at this right. So he. 00:04:54
Pulls in there and sure enough, there's a female sitting in the driver's seat. She's by herself. 00:04:57
Windows are up. She's not responding to him. 00:05:02
Any commands, instructions, anything like this? She is by herself. 00:05:06
At some point the decision is made, we're going to have to extract her from the vehicle we're on US 70. 00:05:10
Between Riddles and Roswell. 00:05:16
Not the best place to be. 00:05:18
Decisions made going to bust the window. 00:05:22
So it busts the window. 00:05:25
And tries to extract her. In doing so, she comes out of the vehicle. 00:05:27
When produced as a pistol. 00:05:31
And now she's. 00:05:33
Show us how she looks with the pistol here I'm using. 00:05:35
Oh yeah, so she's. 00:05:38
Literally right here. 00:05:41
All right, so if you know anything, we train constantly. 00:05:43
Constantly training. 00:05:46
For scenarios just like this. 00:05:48
Right in in this such a scenario the training would be. 00:05:51
You push off, right your pistol and you come out shooting. That's what you do. 00:05:54
What made her think at that moment in time? 00:06:00
This is going to be a good idea. 00:06:03
Or it's going to have a favorable outcome. Nobody's ever going to know. We don't know. 00:06:05
Distress. I'm not buying that when you look at a criminal history. 00:06:09
Business BS. 00:06:14
An elected got a kill. 00:06:16
And I can think of a. 00:06:18
Handful of individuals out there that I know personally. 00:06:19
Personally, it would have. 00:06:23
Probably done things a little bit differently. 00:06:25
So that night. 00:06:28
You actually saved a life. 00:06:30
What happened in those? 00:06:33
Split second. 00:06:34
Change that dynamic. 00:06:36
And I've been in his shoes in 32 years of this business. 00:06:39
I've never shouted anybody, never had to. 00:06:42
But I know what that feeling is like. I know when you see it. 00:06:45
It's like the story of, well, I've never seen a rattlesnake. You'll know. 00:06:48
The first time. 00:06:52
It's that feeling, OK, We're eye to eye. 00:06:54
Something here is about to happen. 00:06:56
And it may end up bad. 00:06:59
It's Showtime. 00:07:01
It's time to earn my check. 00:07:03
Yeah, man, did you and you saved the life that night, so. 00:07:05
I'm proud as oh, get out. 00:07:09
So this young man, he's a. 00:07:11
Bread brings to the scene. 00:07:13
A calm. Anyways, he's kind of one of those guys. When you show up, you think, all right. 00:07:15
When he shows up, things are going to be OK. 00:07:21
May not be the best. 00:07:23
That's the best outcome. 00:07:25
But when he shows up, you'll know he's going to make decisions that are thought out. 00:07:27
So we're just proud to say I love you. 00:07:30
We should all be proud of ourselves. 00:07:33
So it's I'm honored. 00:07:35
Sent you with the lifesaver. 00:07:39
Very good job we should all be very, very proud of. 00:07:59
Thank you. Thanks again. 00:08:04
Thank you, Sheriff. 00:08:12
Very, very wonderful. 00:08:15
The next Life Saving Award presentation is for firefighter Joseph Luna. 00:08:18
Commissioner Prater. 00:08:23
Present. 00:08:25
Good morning, everybody. 00:08:36
This is Joseph Luna. I'm going to read a citation that was that was written by his supervisor, Aaron Green. 00:08:38
On July 24th, 2025, while firefighter Joseph Luna was performing evacuations in Cedar Creek area due to flooding. 00:08:45
He observed a Gray and colored Jeep attempting to drive into the waters and attempts to leave the area after several attempts to 00:08:53
get the driver to stay where she was. 00:08:57
The Jeep continued into the water. 00:09:02
And began to sweep away. The driver of the Jeep then exited the vehicle. 00:09:04
And was swept away by the fast moving water firefighter Luna. 00:09:08
Without hesitation. 00:09:12
Exited his response unit and made several attempts to reach the individual despite being in waist deep. 00:09:14
Water. 00:09:19
Firefighter Luna was. 00:09:20
Finally able to make contact with the individual and using the current. 00:09:22
The current, to his advantage, pulled her from the water back to safety. Firefighters loop. 00:09:26
Clarify the Luna. 00:09:31
The actions on this day were very much worthy of recognition. 00:09:32
And we'd like to present him with. 00:09:36
A life saving award. Thank you. 00:09:37
I want to. 00:09:49
The Office of Emergency Services for, you know, these guys work. 00:09:52
Non-stop. 00:09:56
All day long so. 00:09:57
I want to thank you. 00:09:58
Wasn't that fun? 00:10:09
Yeah, that's fantastic. 00:10:11
So we got another special recognition, a little bit different, but. 00:10:13
That's very important. 00:10:17
This is for Matthew. 00:10:20
Beard Parks and Rec director, village of Rio de So. 00:10:21
And I'm going to have Mr. 00:10:25
Travis, Commissioner Chavez. 00:10:27
Through the presentation. 00:10:28
Please. 00:10:30
So we've been working. We have a bunch of indigent. 00:10:32
Urns that are in the annex office and. 00:10:38
We reached out to the village of Rugoso. 00:10:42
To see if they could help us with this and they graciously donated. 00:10:45
66 spots. 00:10:51
For earns. 00:10:54
And Matthew worked diligently. 00:10:56
On doing this. 00:10:59
Along with the. 00:11:00
Everybody. 00:11:02
In the line all the way up to the mirror. 00:11:04
So. 00:11:06
Want to thank you very much. 00:11:07
For for doing that. 00:11:09
For us and I, I really like working hand in hand with the village. 00:11:11
In a in a county. 00:11:16
That's fantastic. We appreciate that. You know, you, you. 00:11:26
We have these. 00:11:30
These folks out there. 00:11:31
Who are human beings? They're they're afforded dignity, like all of us. 00:11:33
And this particular. 00:11:38
Gift is. 00:11:40
From the village is going to allow us to afford those people. 00:11:42
But for whatever reason, don't have anybody to take care of them and take care of the remains the final resting place. 00:11:46
This is very extraordinarily helpful. 00:11:53
And. 00:11:57
Is worthy of. 00:11:57
Of recognition. Thank you. 00:11:58
OK, so now Chairman. 00:12:01
Yes. Would you like to say anything about it? I would just like to say it's great to partner with the. 00:12:04
With the county and thank you for the county Commission for having me here in this. Thank you but. 00:12:09
It's very important to us at the village also to give these people a final resting place and so. 00:12:14
Thank you for giving us that opportunity to work with you all to give these people. 00:12:18
The final resting place. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. 00:12:21
Let's go ahead. I think we're going to pause. 00:12:30
For some pictures, right? 00:12:32
Jason, we could do some picture and get all the commissioners and we'll do some. We'll take about 5 minutes for pictures. We're 00:12:34
going to recess for 5 minutes. 00:12:38
Keeps keeps the. 00:12:54
Keeps rolling. 00:12:57
No it doesn't. 00:12:58
It's not all the pictures. 00:13:03
Yes. 00:13:04
So the next thing we want to jump into really are public comments. 00:13:21
Invite anybody from the audience on any subject. 00:13:26
To to come up. 00:13:30
Present yourself here at the table so we can hear you identify yourself and. 00:13:31
We look forward to your comments. 00:13:36
Are there any? 00:13:41
Come on, somebody. 00:13:44
OK. 00:13:52
So the next thing will be external agency boards and committees. Lincoln County Detention Center. 00:13:57
Castleton here. I don't know if we have the detention center here. 00:14:05
OK, we'll skip that. 00:14:11
Lincoln County Medical Center Mr. Over. 00:14:13
Good morning, County commissioners Todd Overview Hospital chief executive, Lincoln County. 00:14:17
Give you an update on what's going on with the hospital. 00:14:23
A couple of big things on the horizon so I think most of y'all maybe have heard. 00:14:26
And thank you, Commissioner Serna, for being there in person. We did present to the village, Read also Planning Commission. 00:14:32
On the helipad. 00:14:39
It was approved unanimously from that, from that meeting. We do anticipate this will open tomorrow. 00:14:41
And I think there is a pre bed meeting. 00:14:49
Or I did. 00:14:52
Of meeting, you know, clarification from our architect on the 22nd. 00:14:54
So I'm hoping we're going to get this thing started before the end of the year, as you know. 00:14:59
Those y'all are in construction concrete and winters. Not always the easiest thing to do and that's what most of this project is, 00:15:03
is concrete. But. 00:15:06
We're going to be working on that to try to make that happen. 00:15:10
A couple other things, just to let you know what's going on. So I'm Doctor Kumar is an oncologist who will be starting with us on 00:15:13
October 7th. He'll be coming once a week. 00:15:17
We've seen a lot of growth in our oncology program and we want to continue to grow that. We've been supported out of Albuquerque, 00:15:23
out with Presbyterian. 00:15:27
Doctor Kumar will of course, be part of the Presbyterian group, but he is not faced with Albuquerque. He's actually based out of 00:15:31
Dallas and so, but he'll be coming in here once a week to help us out with that. 00:15:36
So we continue to grow that that program for the community as well. 00:15:41
One thing I don't know if I've ever. 00:15:47
I I think I shared maybe sometime last year after the fires, but I don't know if I talked about it. 00:15:50
I'm in relation to the flooding that happened. 00:15:55
Everyone of our employees that were impacted significantly by the floods. 00:15:59
In other words, either they lost their home or the fires, if we go back to last year. 00:16:03
It's about a total of 14 of our employees that either lost or has significant damage to their homes. So Presbyterian gave everyone 00:16:08
of those individuals $5000 cash just to. 00:16:13
To get their feet underneath them, you know, in the immediate aftermath. 00:16:18
And then we also any of them could submit receipts including when we had the evacuation back last year, but even this year for the 00:16:21
individuals that have. 00:16:25
Housing charges stuff that consumer receipts and received up to $2000 on top of that. 00:16:29
To help them with that and I just think it's a. 00:16:34
Thing that we don't hear a lot from. 00:16:36
You know what Presbyterian brings to the community, but that came from the system. Presbyterian to help out, but in addition to. 00:16:38
You know, contributions that were made to the Community Foundation bias as well, so. 00:16:45
Let's see what else I have. What's really important here. 00:16:52
Construction is continuing on the woman's clinic. 00:16:56
I'm anticipating it's going to be done in October. We really have run into a couple of things there's been. 00:16:59
Logistics and on certain things, especially if they're not made in US. 00:17:05
What we found, we saw that with the CT, I think I told you. 00:17:10
We had some boring back order and we finally got it in last Monday and so now we're waiting for the contractor installed boarding. 00:17:13
Once the boarding is installed, we think we can get this project moving pretty quickly. 00:17:18
I think October will probably be. 00:17:23
The likelihood that I'm hoping that this has been going on for a long time, but I think it's going to be the likelihood. 00:17:25
Then we'll be able to get that clinic up and going. So we do have to go through state process, state surveys will have to come in 00:17:32
and look at the building, make sure it meets life safety code and those type of things. But. 00:17:36
Hopefully we can. 00:17:42
Have everything submitted to him. You're not, so we can get that. 00:17:43
The last big item that I have is, oh, and one other thing, just so you know. So my role has changed at least on an interim basis 00:17:48
with the system to some extent. 00:17:53
The system has asked me to become the I don't know exactly what the how you say, but we'll just, we'll call it the coordinator 00:17:58
over the regional hospitals, the Presbyterian. 00:18:02
It is an interim position, but. 00:18:08
That effectively Clovis to compare Socorro, Espanol and Santa Fe will. 00:18:10
Have a reporting responsibility to me. 00:18:16
For a period of time. So I'm still the. 00:18:18
Chief executive here at Lincoln County, though, so that has not changed so well so. 00:18:21
The last thing is the least, that's the last, probably the biggest item out there. So I anticipate you, you will have a copy of 00:18:26
Jason and your attorney will have a copy with you probably the next week or so. 00:18:31
We've really finalized everything from my standpoint last week, just going through and trying to clean it up. 00:18:37
Our, our proposal is that we will offer an amendment and not a new lease. We did reach out to the state. The state was acceptable 00:18:42
to an amendment. We think that's going to be a much easier process and. 00:18:48
Going back and hammering this thing out for Ground Zero so. 00:18:54
So we'll be giving you, I think within maybe even this week, next week release, I think we'll have a copy of that proposal for 00:18:57
y'all to start considering. OK. And I'll stand for any questions. 00:19:02
Thank you, Sir. Thank you. Appreciate it. 00:19:13
I hope there's no. 00:19:15
Increase in pricing. 00:19:17
Because of Oh. 00:19:19
From. 00:19:23
I think that's more on my side than it is on yours, yeah. 00:19:25
Yeah. 00:19:28
So Warden Castleton. 00:19:30
Could you give us a report? 00:19:32
Good morning. Thank you. 00:19:35
My name is. 00:19:37
Gordon Castleton. 00:19:38
Gordon, Ross Appleton. 00:19:45
County Detention Center. 00:19:46
My computer wasn't. 00:19:48
My apologies for doing that. 00:19:53
Just for my update. 00:19:59
We've averaged right at 61 detainees for the last month. 00:20:02
We had 89. 00:20:08
People come through. 00:20:12
The gel processed. 00:20:13
Put in. 00:20:16
Our staffing, we continue to have some struggles there. 00:20:19
With maintaining our staffing levels, we have. 00:20:22
For correctional officer vacancies. 00:20:26
We have two lieutenants. 00:20:29
And one food service officer vacancy. 00:20:31
I did just hire a second. 00:20:38
Maintenance person. 00:20:40
That building is always a challenge. 00:20:43
Maintaining and so. 00:20:44
We're glad we've got. 00:20:47
That position field. 00:20:48
We're in the process of our next. 00:20:52
Days of our we've had. 00:20:54
Projects going on, as you all know for about the last year. 00:20:55
With the plumbing. 00:21:00
They just finished up. 00:21:03
The uh. 00:21:04
Laundry room. 00:21:05
Drain line and then they're going to start on a boiler. 00:21:06
Drawing line that should start this week. 00:21:10
And then we have some lines out to the. 00:21:13
Front of the building which will be. 00:21:15
The last part of that, but they have been working on that. 00:21:16
I last time I. 00:21:23
Reported that I had submitted. 00:21:24
Proposal for. 00:21:26
A new RISE program. 00:21:28
That has been accepted. We don't. 00:21:31
Have the details of when that's going to start. 00:21:34
But we will have two staff members. 00:21:36
That will be paid for by that RISE grant. 00:21:40
The focus is going to be a little bit different than it was before. 00:21:43
But I think we're going to be able to really make some. 00:21:46
Headway and and. 00:21:50
Help folks in getting released back into the community and. 00:21:52
Take care. So how's the focus different? 00:21:56
The focus before. 00:21:59
Primarily uh. 00:22:02
Focused on Mescalero. 00:22:04
And. 00:22:06
Working with. 00:22:07
People that were members of the tribe. 00:22:09
That's no longer. 00:22:11
Part of the focus. I mean, they will. They will still. 00:22:13
Receive services but. 00:22:17
We were kind of limited. 00:22:18
On what we were able to do for non tribal members so. 00:22:20
When does the tribe open up their detention facility? Is that opened up yet or that? 00:22:25
That has not so. 00:22:29
The last report that. 00:22:32
Received. 00:22:34
That there were some issues with the contractor. 00:22:36
That built the building. 00:22:39
What I was told is. 00:22:42
That they use a lot of. 00:22:44
Materials that they weren't supposed to and so. 00:22:46
Are not going to be opening that up. 00:22:49
Until those problems can be rectified and. 00:22:52
The estimate that I was given was a couple of years. 00:22:55
And so really, yeah. 00:22:58
The contractor is. 00:23:00
No longer around. 00:23:03
And so. 00:23:05
They're they're having some. 00:23:06
Difficulties getting that building to pass inspection. 00:23:08
So. 00:23:11
That's that's interesting. I didn't know that. 00:23:13
So, so the other question I was going to pose and I'll still do it now. 00:23:17
What approximately in terms of percentage of? 00:23:23
Of Incarcer. 00:23:26
People. 00:23:28
Our tribal members. 00:23:29
On average. 00:23:31
On on average. 00:23:33
20%, I would say that's a good guesstimate, 20 to 25%. 00:23:34
Some of them. 00:23:41
Come under that BIA contract. 00:23:42
But some of them. 00:23:45
Come on, county churches as well, so. 00:23:47
So yeah. 00:23:50
We typically have about 25%. 00:23:51
Last, last thing that I have is I have a meeting tomorrow with. 00:23:58
And we're taking next steps on. 00:24:04
The map program. 00:24:07
We've been making referrals. 00:24:09
And I think we have enough. 00:24:12
Now to where we would actually have. 00:24:13
Medicaid assisted treatment within. 00:24:16
The facility and so. 00:24:19
We're gonna. 00:24:21
Meet tomorrow and something. 00:24:22
Lots of things happening, yeah, so. 00:24:27
That's going to be under the offices of your. 00:24:29
Your medical team that supports you at the. 00:24:32
Jail or those are some of the things that we're going to discuss. It's. 00:24:35
The position that will actually. 00:24:40
Prescribe the medication as. 00:24:43
There's actually a community provider. 00:24:46
And so in our community. 00:24:49
Yes. Do they Do they work with? 00:24:52
With Presbyterian Lincoln County Medical Center, I am not sure of that. I don't, I don't believe they are. So we're talking about 00:24:54
the math program in the jail. 00:24:59
This is a medically assistant, right? So if they if they come into the ER, we can start them on medication assistance from that 00:25:05
standpoint. So it just. 00:25:09
And you just need to be coordinated between the, so I guess that's the point of my query. 00:25:15
It sounds to me like. 00:25:20
We have to make sure that that connection between your organization. 00:25:21
The jail and hope. 00:25:25
Integrated at some level at least. 00:25:28
You know what hands doing it. 00:25:30
And we, we were, we've had several meetings early, but we haven't had any reason. 00:25:33
OK, so. 00:25:37
Yeah, I might suggest. 00:25:39
This this happened. 00:25:41
Yeah, right. 00:25:42
OK. Is that it? 00:25:45
That's it. Any questions, Commissioner? 00:25:46
Thank you very much. 00:25:51
All right, let me see you. 00:25:52
NMSU extension office. 00:25:59
Chairman Fisher. Commissioners. Umm. 00:26:06
We just got back from State Fair Friday night about 10:00. 00:26:09
It was a great fair if you went and saw our indoor Bluetooth Melody and Marty put together, it was beautiful. 00:26:13
At one second place, I'm still biased. I think we should have won. 00:26:20
But. 00:26:23
And so that looks really, really good, really represented Lincoln County well. 00:26:25
Our indoor projects, we have several first, second, third place finishes. 00:26:30
We will be taking. 00:26:34
A lot more even than we took to State Fair going to Eastern Fair. 00:26:36
The beginning of this next month. 00:26:40
Our livestock kennels did amazing. Umm. 00:26:43
The only big, the only big accolades we brought home. 00:26:46
Were bit Scott. 00:26:50
From Capitan. 00:26:53
Was best of breed in the rabbit barn with one that he actually raised. 00:26:54
The judge really commended him and said I would like to have your rabbit to take home and and put into my breeding programs. 00:26:59
And then he also had reserve champion. 00:27:07
Best to show with his other rabbit. 00:27:09
We had lots of reserve champion and reserve division winners across the board. 00:27:11
We did have. 00:27:18
Novice Goat showmanship winner and Novice Lamb showmanship winner. 00:27:20
Actually happened to be the same kid. 00:27:24
I don't know how often that's been done, but if it's been done, it's it was Grady Gutierrez. He's. 00:27:26
My, he's actually my. 00:27:34
But that was that was pretty cool. That doesn't happen very often. 00:27:36
We had 20 kids attend, 8 of them made the junior high stock sale. 00:27:40
Which is. 00:27:44
Pretty, pretty good. Only 97 fell across the whole thing and we had. 00:27:45
We had eight of those, eight of our 20. 00:27:49
We have one steer. 00:27:52
One pig. 00:27:54
4 goats. I'm going to brag. I always brag on our goat born a little bit about how competitive our goat barn is. 00:27:55
There's only 10 goats. 00:28:02
That are that qualify for the junior livestock sale. That's not many and we had four of them. 00:28:04
Vermont County SO. 00:28:09
And then we had two lambs make the sails so. 00:28:10
Umm kids will be rolling in, will be headed into Eastern Fair, not this coming Sunday, but next Sunday. 00:28:14
And that wraps up most of everybody's will have a few going on to some other shows, other national shows throughout the year, but. 00:28:20
That kind of wraps up. 00:28:27
What our kids have done for the years. 00:28:29
That's good. Yeah. The county is making efforts to give it to Jason. 00:28:32
To improve our website or. 00:28:37
Can we get some of that information on our website? Can you get that? 00:28:40
Pictures, you know, names and. 00:28:45
One yes. 00:28:48
Yeah, we can do that. I can work on that today. Perfect. 00:28:50
Also the Lincoln County Fair, too. I'm not this fantastic, right? Yes, it always is. Yeah. 00:28:52
And that's that's about it. The spare mode. And like I said, we're. 00:29:00
We're rolling in the next one very soon. 00:29:04
I stand up for questions. 00:29:07
Thank you and and I'll thank you again. 00:29:08
For the food that we get, the more I look forward to it and I'm waiting, can't wait for the the lunch. 00:29:11
I am going to give a plug I forgot to mention. 00:29:16
On Monday at the office, 10:00 to roughly 2, we will be having a cattle workshop, will be talking about trick management. 00:29:19
Vaccine protocols as well as the New World screwworm. 00:29:29
If you're interested, anybody interested in coming to that, please RSVP by this Friday to the office because we will be providing 00:29:33
lunch as well, mostly to get a head count on lunch, but. 00:29:38
That is happening Monday starting at 10:00 at our office. 00:29:43
Doctor John Wenzel are in a misuse state that will be presenting. 00:29:47
That should be on our website too. OK, excellent. Cool. 00:29:52
No questions. 00:29:56
Thank you very much. 00:29:58
OK, any other? 00:30:05
External boards of committees. 00:30:08
We have here. 00:30:09
Fair Board. Landrack. 00:30:11
Pick one. 00:30:14
Which one is all of you? 00:30:15
All the above. 00:30:19
Good morning, Chair, Commissioners. 00:30:21
Shepherd. Cherub Landrack. 00:30:24
We there was a. 00:30:28
On the Stream Commission, there's a. 00:30:30
Comment period that's going on right now. 00:30:35
But I think the county really needs to. 00:30:37
If they haven't already, make a comment so you can. 00:30:39
Lincoln County can have a stake at the future. 00:30:43
They're putting in together. 00:30:46
Committees and stuff and and what we've read it. 00:30:50
It's it's going to be a well balanced if they follow through. 00:30:53
On what they're going to do. 00:30:57
After the comment period. 00:30:58
It's going to be a pretty well balanced. 00:31:00
Stakeholders at the. 00:31:04
It's all talking about this. You can go on to the. 00:31:06
State Engineers website. 00:31:11
And it'll take you. Just take on and it'll take you to where. 00:31:12
Comments to be made. I'm going to pass out a. 00:31:16
Do you need help with that effort? Is that what you're saying? Well, I'd like the county to get behind it because. 00:31:19
You need us to do that. This is. 00:31:26
A combat that the. 00:31:34
Land right put in. 00:31:35
Submitted UH. 00:31:37
I was going to submit it but my. 00:31:39
Standard crash like. 00:31:41
Couldn't get it scanned yet so. 00:31:43
That's just a brief opinion of what? 00:31:45
Lane Rex Taken. 00:31:49
Also a couple other things that. 00:31:50
First of all, we do have. 00:31:55
An opening on the Landrack board. 00:31:58
President Stone said that he. 00:32:01
Was too busy and everything and. 00:32:04
Gave him his resignation so we do have 1 opening. 00:32:07
If any of the commissioners knows anybody that. 00:32:12
Wants to sit on the land rack board. 00:32:18
By all means. 00:32:20
Other things that we're watching. 00:32:23
There's some red dunes. 00:32:26
With BLM. 00:32:28
On and I just read this the other day that we're going to follow up on. 00:32:31
On redesignating. 00:32:37
The stuff that was taken out. 00:32:38
They're trying to make it back where it benefits all realms, like permit grazing. 00:32:42
And a lot of stuff like that, so. 00:32:48
And I know cattle roses. 00:32:50
On that SO. 00:32:53
There's a big deal on. 00:32:57
The Mexican Gray wolf that's going down, I know the president has. 00:33:00
Cut off a bunch of the funding. 00:33:05
For that. 00:33:07
Part of one of my other hats is also. 00:33:10
How cows for relative livestock but. 00:33:13
I deal with all the people on the western part of the state. 00:33:16
And they're just getting. 00:33:19
Hammered by these. 00:33:21
The Mexican Gray wolf. I talked to a lady. 00:33:24
A foreman of a ranch. 00:33:27
The track in the middle of it they've had. 00:33:29
This last month I've had. 00:33:31
5 or 4 confirmed kills and one they couldn't buy the calf. 00:33:35
And then this foreman had to put down a wolf because it attacked her and her dog. 00:33:39
And so she went to a pretty good ordeal. 00:33:44
On trying not to go to jail over that deal. 00:33:47
Because that's usually what happens even if you're in the right. It was a colored wolf. 00:33:50
But they did that, as did while she was checking livestock attack her and her dog. 00:33:54
So she was able to defend herself and put it down. But that's, you know, that's not, not only New Mexico that's facing this 00:33:59
problem. 00:34:02
It's California. It's in. 00:34:05
Washington, Oregon. 00:34:08
It's just they have their place but. 00:34:09
Unchecked it's gonna it's creating a problem. 00:34:12
That's another thing we're looking at. 00:34:16
Or just keeping up on. 00:34:18
And there's, which on the Forest Service, there's a. 00:34:20
A court case going on right now in Santa Fe. 00:34:24
With some permittees in Otero County. 00:34:26
And on the outcome of that case could. 00:34:30
Be kind of what's going to happen with all permittees as. 00:34:33
Whatever the case. 00:34:39
When it concludes. 00:34:41
The permit keys has gone all the way to Washington DC, pleading their case to hey. 00:34:42
You know, we're being. 00:34:47
Railroaded here and stuff like that. 00:34:49
So that's one thing that I am keeping close watch on to see how the outcome on that is. 00:34:52
Because I know, I know these ranchers and I know that they have spent just the court case alone. 00:34:56
Just for. 00:35:01
Their attorneys and everything they had to show out over $12,000 just for accommodations. 00:35:02
For the hearing in Santa Fe. 00:35:07
So right now the. 00:35:09
Fresh cows is high so it's helping them. 00:35:12
But uh. 00:35:15
It's it's going to be interesting to see. 00:35:16
After the outcome. 00:35:19
On which way this goes? 00:35:20
On that court case. 00:35:22
Right now I that's. 00:35:27
Kind of all that we're looking at, we are keeping them. 00:35:29
Tabs on all the flooding and how it's affecting and. 00:35:31
You know, with the water and stuff like that. So. 00:35:35
That's all I have and I'll stand for questions. 00:35:38
Are you are you aware of the loss of? 00:35:42
Wells in the Honda Valley. 00:35:45
You know, I've heard some of that. 00:35:48
And. 00:35:49
I know that a lot of times the floodwaters will. 00:35:52
Be devastating to. 00:35:55
Well, heads and stuff like that. 00:35:58
But I do know that there's an issue done in in the Hondo Valley. 00:36:01
And. 00:36:05
The the floodwaters you know in. 00:36:06
Years I've seen them completely obliterate springs. 00:36:09
That have been there for. 00:36:13
Years and then the floodwaters come down, whether it seals it off, makes it go somewhere else but in that area. 00:36:15
It completely stops. 00:36:21
Yeah. Well, yeah, so there's there's. 00:36:23
There, there's probably about a dozen wells. 00:36:27
I'm aware of 6 in particular and there's I'm getting hearing. 00:36:30
About others as well. 00:36:34
The theory the theory is is that. 00:36:36
As these floodwaters come down. 00:36:39
The Rio Rio does so. 00:36:41
They're entrapped in those waters of. 00:36:43
Sediment. Silk. 00:36:46
Ash all kinds of things that. 00:36:48
Really stopped the permeability. 00:36:51
Of the river. 00:36:54
Bottom to. 00:36:55
To recharge the the. 00:36:58
The the well waters. 00:36:59
Right. And this is adjacent to the river. 00:37:01
So, so in your, I'm really delighted that you're talking about water in the comments and water security plan. 00:37:04
I think this is a big, big item. 00:37:12
For US water in general. 00:37:15
And I applaud that your efforts that you're, you're looking at that with some seriousness. 00:37:17
Don't forget that piece of it too. 00:37:21
I'm interested also in. 00:37:25
And and we'll deal with this at another time. 00:37:27
In detail but. 00:37:30
In supporting. 00:37:32
You know the comment section, so we do have a place. 00:37:34
At the table when when these things are actually being negotiated. 00:37:36
And that's and that's like any other. 00:37:39
Comment period that if you don't comment. 00:37:44
A lot of people don't know if you don't comment then. 00:37:46
Once that comment periods over. 00:37:49
You don't. You can't say anything. You don't have a snake at the table. 00:37:50
So you get your comments in, you're included. 00:37:53
And all that, and that's on any. 00:37:56
Anything that the. 00:37:58
The federal government or even the state government. 00:37:59
When they put out that. 00:38:02
And I've always said this, we need to get. 00:38:05
A handle on where? 00:38:07
A lot of the decisions are being made. 00:38:09
For Lincoln County needs to be coming out of. 00:38:11
Lincoln County area. 00:38:13
And this Commission right here. 00:38:14
The waters I have seen. 00:38:17
Not only does it seal the wellheads off a lot of times. 00:38:19
But if it goes down the wellhead or down. 00:38:22
And Commissioner Wilson can also visit around the. 00:38:25
It will contaminate that wellhead. 00:38:29
I saw one in lower Eagle Creek that a sinkhole developed right in the bottom. 00:38:31
Of the crate. 00:38:35
And there was 3 residents that. 00:38:36
Their wells, they couldn't use it for about two years until the water cleaned itself. 00:38:39
So yes, it's it's a serious deal. 00:38:43
And also. 00:38:47
You know the. 00:38:48
A lot of the people need to get back. 00:38:49
The agencies to. 00:38:51
What's causing the flooding where they need to mitigate? 00:38:53
Back at the top. 00:38:56
The the lands and everything where this flooding is coming off of. 00:38:58
You know, I've heard three to seven years. It's gonna. 00:39:02
Do this, I'm thinking 10 to 15 to 20 years, you know, it's gonna flood us some type. 00:39:05
Down that, down off those fire burn scars. 00:39:10
Well, we're engaged in that piece too. And I. 00:39:14
And and if you if you hang out here for a little bit. 00:39:17
Probably hear exactly what it is. I mean one one thing you want to do. 00:39:20
It stopped these these uncontrolled fires. 00:39:25
That's key, right? 00:39:28
So that's thinning, that's woolly barriers. 00:39:30
And then the other piece to it is. 00:39:33
Is reforestation effort? I don't want to. 00:39:35
Put a lot of trees in. 00:39:39
But you do need some. 00:39:40
Right, and the grasses, and that'll stop. 00:39:42
A lot of that stuff and coming down so you know, and it was before my time because. 00:39:44
I'm not that old. 00:39:48
Oh they they had the CCT counts and they still do this in. 00:39:49
The Northwest and in Canada anytime fire comes through. 00:39:57
They have crews that go back out there and plant seedlings. 00:40:01
Not only that, on on previous log. 00:40:05
Areas but. 00:40:07
You know, I don't know why there's probably cost. 00:40:08
But when you get the. 00:40:11
The any hot fire is going to ignite your poison weeds. 00:40:12
Your local, your P line, your thistles are just going to take over. 00:40:17
And. 00:40:21
And then you get your scrub brush. 00:40:22
But uh. 00:40:24
I it needs to be replanted in a? 00:40:25
Healthy way. 00:40:29
Right, so. 00:40:31
Any commissioner wants to join. 00:40:33
Or a can the line right? 00:40:36
It's the Wednesday before this meeting and anybody is welcome to attend. 00:40:39
Thank you. 00:40:44
Commissioners, any any questions? 00:40:47
No question, guys. 00:40:49
Comment. 00:40:51
OK. Thank you. 00:40:54
Very much. 00:40:55
Well. 00:40:58
Okay. 00:41:03
I'm going to departments. 00:41:06
The Office of Emergency Services 1st. 00:41:08
That's the Gray one. 00:41:12
Good morning, Chairman Fisher, Commissioners. 00:41:14
So just a quick update on. 00:41:16
Ten of our August. 00:41:19
Report So August 2025 we had 22 calls for service in the county. 00:41:20
We had three brush fires. 00:41:27
Seven false alarms, 5 motor vehicle accidents, one structure fire, 2 EMS calls, and four flooding. 00:41:28
Type calls. 00:41:36
We also managed to get 5 personnel total. 00:41:38
Two out of Oh yes, and three volunteers from the Bonito Fire District. 00:41:41
To a Swift Order Technician class. 00:41:45
All of the Volunteer Fire departments that were involved in the campfire over Fort Stanton. 00:41:51
They attended Fort Stanton Live and they were all. 00:41:55
Give an award, the Fort Stanton Live for their efforts at the campfire. 00:41:59
A few public outreach events. Both were well attended. 00:42:04
We had a really good showing in both the local districts and the OES office for president to. 00:42:08
Use those public outreach events. 00:42:14
Where were those? 00:42:16
One was in White Oaks. 00:42:17
For Miners Day and the other one was Fort Stanton Life. 00:42:19
The the the rescue boats that you guys approved for Benito Fire Department has arrived. 00:42:23
It is in station, we're working on the last bits of paperwork, getting everything together so that that peace apparatus can go in 00:42:28
service. 00:42:31
And then we also hosted a cave rescue class out of Fort. 00:42:36
It was attended by Lincoln, Benito, Nogal and Capitan fire departments. Well attended, well taught. 00:42:41
That's the class that we've. 00:42:47
This is the second time we've put it on and we're going to try to do it on probably in every other year basis. 00:42:49
So it's a really good class and that's something that we don't train for a whole lot. And so that's that's a much needed. 00:42:54
Thing other than that, I'll stand for questions. 00:43:00
Hearing none. 00:43:06
Thank you very much. Thank you. 00:43:07
What department? 00:43:10
Veronica. 00:43:12
Chairman Fisher Commissioner Jeff Honeycutt, Lincoln County Road Superintendent. 00:43:20
We'll go through a few of the things. I've got several other items with projects on the agenda a little bit later, but I'll go 00:43:26
through some of the stuff the crew's been doing in the department. 00:43:30
We have made 36 Rd. signs. 00:43:35
Issued 17 driveway permits. 00:43:37
That's coming out of the administrative part of the office with Janet. 00:43:41
We've played it 392 miles of Rd. this last month. 00:43:45
The average is about 65 miles per district. 00:43:49
Those numbers are a little skewed because some of the areas we spend a lot more time in than. 00:43:52
Than others but. 00:43:57
392 miles so far. 00:43:58
Of bladed robes. 00:44:02
We still have 6 vacancies. 00:44:03
In the department. 00:44:06
We have not had any interest. 00:44:08
Outside. 00:44:10
Our our department for the. 00:44:11
Over higher positions, but we do have 4. 00:44:13
Internals that are. 00:44:16
Have applied for the positions in the inside the department for the operating service. 00:44:18
So we have internal interest, but no outside interest. 00:44:24
Just yet. 00:44:27
We have. 00:44:30
Still been working with pattern energy. 00:44:31
They are. 00:44:34
Working mostly in the north part of our district there in the trans western and Elda. 00:44:35
Part of Bogle. 00:44:41
The blade work has gotten better. 00:44:43
The cattle guards have not. 00:44:45
So we're still working with them. 00:44:47
They're putting in cattle guards or settling. 00:44:49
And we're having some issues with that still. 00:44:51
They are settling. 00:44:55
So they're dropping, they're putting them in and they're dropping 4 to 5 inches. 00:44:56
And you hit those going down the road and. 00:45:00
It's noticeable. 00:45:03
So we're working with pattern. 00:45:05
On that, do you agree with that? Let me just replace shocks on my daughter's pickup yesterday. 00:45:07
From do we need to get pattern in here? 00:45:13
That would be good we've. 00:45:16
Had a very spirited dialogue. 00:45:18
Over the last let's let's bring them in. 00:45:20
Mr. Manager, next time. 00:45:24
Report on that. 00:45:26
So how's how's Trans Western looking? 00:45:27
That's been a problem, right? Rocks and. 00:45:29
Well, the the 20 miles of Transworth of Trans Western from 246 N is county maintained. 00:45:31
Pretty much from the crossroads that last 10 miles to 2:47. 00:45:38
Is maintained by pattern. 00:45:42
And that's where some of the bigger issues are. 00:45:44
With traffic. 00:45:47
Cattle guards and blade work. 00:45:50
So it's kind of a mixed bag. 00:45:53
We're, we just got through blading trans Western a couple weeks ago, but of course we've had the rains. 00:45:55
And the traffic? 00:46:00
And it's retract again. 00:46:01
So we're heading back out there next week. 00:46:04
Can you bring some documentation the next time we have a meeting? 00:46:06
Or. 00:46:09
Cattle cards, absolutely. I want, I want to show these to these people when they get here. Absolutely. And and the quality of the. 00:46:11
They're blading for the 10 miles that they're responsible. 00:46:17
Yes, of course, water has been an issue in the dust and the traffic is extremely heavy right now. 00:46:20
On that portion of Transwestern. 00:46:27
What is an issue? How? 00:46:29
They're not providing enough. 00:46:32
And the dust to go along with the traffic. 00:46:33
Is uh. 00:46:35
Dusting people out. 00:46:36
Couple of branchers have called me. 00:46:39
Consistently. 00:46:41
Yeah, you get just on the on. 00:46:46
Cat won't lead it. 00:46:48
So we are still working with pattern and I'd like to revisit some stuff with those folks before we move too much further down the 00:46:51
line. 00:46:54
And with all the rain. 00:46:58
We have uh, uh. 00:46:59
Identified 5 low water crossings that we're going to have to repair. 00:47:01
The one on the snail outside of. 00:47:05
380 here. 00:47:07
Outside of Carrizozo is going to be extensive. 00:47:09
Repairs that we need to do, we can do those in house, but it'll have to be. 00:47:11
Gave me a baskets and a lot of concrete. 00:47:16
To get those. 00:47:18
Back to good. They're undermining really bad. 00:47:19
And then of course. 00:47:22
Able to help you with some of that work. 00:47:24
On areas that are identified in the burn scar. 00:47:26
They can. 00:47:29
But these areas are kind of just for the flooding and and things, so I don't know what. 00:47:31
Their involvement would be but I can check. 00:47:35
They can still, they can still help. We'll have a match that we'll have to pay that sounds like that's cheaper than the county 00:47:38
payments and we're going to try to do this in house and that way we can take care of a lot of that. We are capable of doing some 00:47:42
of these things. 00:47:46
Issue with that. 00:47:51
Results being short staffed. 00:47:53
If we're doing that, we're not doing. 00:47:55
The other stuff at the day-to-day so. 00:47:57
We sacrifice bleeding roads and doing other things if we're tied up three weeks on the low water crossing. 00:48:00
Right, so so you might, you might. 00:48:05
Reach out to them and see what they can do. 00:48:07
From a 7525. 00:48:10
Point of view but those those are 5. Snail being the worst. We do have one on a. 00:48:12
Jack speak that we just fixed the other day, but that was a temporary. 00:48:16
And then we have two on Devil's Canyon and one on Seven Rivers. 00:48:20
That all need to be repaired. 00:48:24
A lot of work we did. 00:48:26
We have a lot of that with the. 00:48:28
Addition with the day-to-day stuff that we're going through. 00:48:30
But at that point, I'll save the questions. 00:48:33
So those those cattle boards have been replacing the patterns replacing. 00:48:40
Are they the same quality that they're taken out like? 00:48:43
Or the replacing light for life on the words. 00:48:46
Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Wilson, they are, they're actually using the same, uh. 00:48:49
Company that produces our counter guards. 00:48:53
The only difference is they're going a little wider. 00:48:55
Typically we install 16 or 20 ones and they're putting in 20 fours or or larger to get some of their trucks together. 00:48:58
So but they are putting. 00:49:05
Putting them back in with the same company that we use. 00:49:07
Or they still bottomed. Or they. 00:49:10
Or they concreted they are. 00:49:13
They have steel sides open bottom. 00:49:15
So the box is is. 00:49:17
And then the grate sets on top of that. 00:49:20
No concrete. 00:49:23
No compassion either. 00:49:25
No. 00:49:26
Obviously not. No, they're dropping. 00:49:27
That. 00:49:34
The personnel. 00:49:36
Advertising everywhere for. 00:49:38
Chairman Fisher of Commissioner Chavez, we do have those posted. 00:49:41
I'll probably let HR. 00:49:47
To that little bell steal her Thunder. But yeah, they yes Sir, they are posted. 00:49:49
And just kind of waking. 00:49:53
We've had 0 outside applicants. 00:49:55
But a lot of interest internally. 00:49:58
Which is good. 00:50:02
I'm glad for that, but. 00:50:03
If we hire. 00:50:05
Internally, this is Sometimes it's easier to hire operator twos, which are basically truck drivers. Water truck. It's easier to 00:50:07
hire those folks outside than it is to hire equipment operators. 00:50:11
Outside. So that's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just we're running into a time thing. 00:50:17
Where we need more people and we're just not. 00:50:22
If I hire internally, we still have those openings, they're just. 00:50:25
Moved around. 00:50:28
So I won't talk about your workload a little bit more and. 00:50:30
Another presentation that you have. 00:50:34
OK, I I think you're. 00:50:36
I think we're. 00:50:40
Hurting a little bit. 00:50:41
Anything else? 00:50:44
Thank you very much. 00:50:46
HR. 00:50:49
Oh my. 00:50:51
I'll get facilities after. 00:50:55
Is your commissioner Vanessa? 00:51:06
HR Manager, Lincoln County. 00:51:09
Been pretty busy actually in the HR department. 00:51:11
As the road department was just saying. 00:51:14
We do have. 00:51:16
Plastic usage position is open. 00:51:18
I have posted them. 00:51:21
Internally I've posted them. 00:51:23
Externally as well. 00:51:25
One of the things I've been working on. 00:51:27
We'll talk about is. 00:51:30
Going to job fairs to put that out there as well. 00:51:31
For job opened. 00:51:35
The size of the road. 00:51:37
We have our. 00:51:38
Treasurer's office has a seasonal clerk. 00:51:40
Opening I have one application I just posted that so I've had these one. 00:51:42
We've also posted for the Zia Senior Center. 00:51:47
On Cook Aid and Driver. 00:51:50
And then in the Sheriff's Department. 00:51:53
We have both the certified and uncertified. 00:51:55
Positions open and we also have the legal process server and animal control. We've interviewed 1 applicant for that so far. 00:51:58
And then? 00:52:06
As well for the Sheriff's Office, we have the dispatcher position and we have interviewed 2 applicants for that. 00:52:07
For new hires this month, we. 00:52:14
Have hired A reappraisal clerk assistant in the assessor's office. 00:52:16
As well as a mobile home specialist in the assessor's office. 00:52:20
Down in Ruidoso we have our solid waste fillings. 00:52:24
First Helm and then we also got our planning check as well. 00:52:27
Came in for our office here, the managers office. We've got our new executive admin assistant as well. 00:52:32
I went up to the New Mexico State Fair. 00:52:40
Took a lot of job applications out there, handed out a few of them. People were kind of interested. They were more interested in 00:52:43
knowing how Lincoln County was doing, how good that was doing here. 00:52:48
But I did get it out there. 00:52:53
A couple of events that I have coming up next month is the end of the Mountain Gods has their 13th annual health fair that I'll be 00:52:55
attending for that. 00:52:59
And Ian and you also have a career fair as well. 00:53:02
One of the things I wanted to do as well as reach out to the high schools and talk to them, see if they're interested as well as 00:53:07
hearing from us or. 00:53:10
You know, people are graduating this year and start to see. 00:53:14
Wanting to let kids know what the county offers as well since we do have some. 00:53:17
Entry level positions as well, so I'm trying to get those out there and get them filled as quickly as possible. I am pushing the 00:53:23
road hard. I know that there is a demand for them right now, so I'm really pushing those. 00:53:29
As hard as I can at the moment, but. 00:53:35
That's not going on in the HR department. No censoring questions. 00:53:37
Questions. 00:53:44
You mentioned you're going to be attending a job fair. When is that? 00:53:47
That is the 23rd of October. That will be in a news drop there and then the end of the mountain Gods has theirs on the 18th. 00:53:51
Since we are in such desperate need for CDL drivers, do you have a strategy in place to track this? 00:54:00
I have not really put it out on Indeed and highlighted that we do need those CDL drivers. I may reach out to other counties and 00:54:06
ask what they're doing as well when they have those situations to attract those CDL drivers already. See if they have an idea 00:54:12
where we could reach from another pool for something else like that. 00:54:18
I'd recommend having on the spot interviews, I think that can go a long way. Maybe even having some equipment out front just to 00:54:25
attract them. 00:54:28
And I think something that stands out with us is the four 10s. 00:54:33
Highlight that, OK. 00:54:37
Weekends off, Holidays off. 00:54:38
Ideally. 00:54:41
We do. 00:54:45
Not you. 00:54:48
That's very good. It's a very good, very good point. It is an attractive. 00:54:49
Employ it. 00:54:56
It really is. 00:54:58
Yeah, exactly. 00:55:00
I mean the number how many and this is a. 00:55:02
Not a trick question, but maybe it turns out to be. 00:55:05
How many? How many pay holidays? 00:55:08
It's a lot they're pushing. 00:55:10
There can't never happened in my life. 00:55:13
And and so that's that's very good and four 10s. 00:55:16
The para. 00:55:19
Any insurance? 00:55:22
It's, it's a, it's a very good job. 00:55:23
You don't make $1,000,000, but it's steady. 00:55:27
Good, good atmosphere. 00:55:29
And he gets he gets paid. 00:55:32
I think that the important to utilize umm. 00:55:34
Our social media as well to attract these you can target those local. 00:55:37
CDL holders using social media make direct contacts. 00:55:42
But I think you need to get a little aggressive with your approach. 00:55:46
We did have a discussion here this week. 00:55:52
We're developing the flyer. 00:55:54
Looking at alternatives trying to attack attract folks, especially for. 00:55:55
Public Works and our deputy and I know our deputies are advertised. 00:55:59
So we are getting that pushed down. That's going to be a. 00:56:03
Immediate. 00:56:06
That's great. 00:56:10
All right. Good luck make it happen. Thank you. 00:56:11
Facilities. 00:56:16
It did real fast, Commissioner, since she brought it up, wanted to introduce Miss Bethany one more time. 00:56:21
Is our new executive admin. 00:56:27
She's in the meeting this morning. 00:56:29
And also. 00:56:31
But Stephanie, I forgot your last name. I'm sorry. 00:56:33
Huh, Miss Stephanie Warner. 00:56:35
She just came on with this last week too, so we're real pleased to have both of them on board. 00:56:38
And adding to the team, so that's great. 00:56:42
What are you doing? 00:56:50
I have plenty technicians for the Bunny brothers department making permitting. 00:56:51
Have you ever? Have you ever done that before? 00:56:58
Yes, Sir. I came from. So I've been doing that for the last 7 1/2 years. Yeah, I knew that. 00:57:00
We actually have her a. 00:57:09
Quite a long list if we can get her equipped. 00:57:12
We have a long list of a bunch of our GIS maps and mapping and. 00:57:15
It really helps to. 00:57:19
See it on the wall when? 00:57:20
Keep that updated along with our assessors. And so, so we have. 00:57:23
Quite a long list of work from a Stephanie. I don't know if she knows what she stepped into, but it's too late now so. 00:57:27
I've got four or five snaps I want. 00:57:34
Want you to develop. Yeah, that's fantastic. So we're happy to have a month. 00:57:36
Very good. 00:57:40
OK, facility, James? 00:57:42
And Chairman Fisher Commissioners Jan Zavaro. 00:57:44
We have a few projects we're working on right now. One of the mess. 00:57:48
We replace the porch. 00:57:51
And a fixed all the leaks inside. That's plus 75% of 8. 00:57:53
That they're happy about that. 00:57:58
They are. It looks a lot better. 00:58:00
Second one. 00:58:04
I'm ready for that. 00:58:07
Second one is the parks we've got. 00:58:10
We've begun all the. 00:58:13
Renovations inner so far. 00:58:15
So we got the electric put in the. 00:58:17
The painting done. 00:58:19
The walls torn out. 00:58:21
But right now? 00:58:22
Focus on to be the lights and outside exterior lights. 00:58:24
And some canvas system. 00:58:26
To get it for. 00:58:28
The third one is the public health office. 00:58:30
Right now we've got all the mini spins ordered. 00:58:33
And so it's just a matter of getting on general Zen to get that computer into one. 00:58:35
As soon as possible. 00:58:39
Yeah, they need that desperately. 00:58:41
We've had numerous water years while HVAC doesn't go out. 00:58:43
So I think after all these years of 10/12/15 years, they're all giving out right now. 00:58:48
So we're. 00:58:53
Having that day-to-day has become. 00:58:54
You know, looking at the parking lots at the annex. 00:59:00
The public health clinic. 00:59:03
The new clerks. 00:59:06
Office. 00:59:07
We're going to have to figure out how we're going to take care of that. 00:59:09
We'll get on one point, Jeff. We're going to get a. 00:59:12
Is it gave me some colds. 00:59:15
Get somebody started on the pavement outside and. 00:59:17
In it public health office and. 00:59:19
The 1st and get those refurbished I mean. 00:59:21
They haven't been. 00:59:24
Years bring us bring us a plan. 00:59:26
Next time you show up. 00:59:29
Just I know we can't do it all at once. 00:59:31
It's a very, very expensive. 00:59:33
But we need to have a plan. 00:59:35
Well, how we're going to make these things? 00:59:37
Get back to standard. 00:59:39
Mr. Chairman. 00:59:41
Commissioners one thing that. 00:59:42
Mr. Gillard working on is our facilities. 00:59:45
Asset management plan. 00:59:48
That we are going through and listing out all of our. 00:59:50
Facilities, uh. 00:59:52
And just kind of. 00:59:53
Really. The honeydews on on the hot water heaters, The parking lots, the trap systems? 00:59:55
That we're noticing need to be updated so we can have that all in one large list and kind of. 01:00:00
Put that in one place as a working document that. 01:00:04
We can kind of keep track of everything we need to do and that helps us with budgets. 01:00:07
Very good. 01:00:13
We need it desperately. Thank you. 01:00:14
I love that sign out there, Tim. 01:00:16
The other thing that uh. 01:00:19
Our facilities teams are really working on good as we do have our. 01:00:21
The custodian on board. 01:00:25
And I think that's working much better with. 01:00:26
Matt and both the custodians working together. 01:00:29
I think we're able to get around the most everything. So we're. 01:00:32
That's working good too. 01:00:35
So yeah. 01:00:36
Excellent. 01:00:40
Thank you very much. 01:00:45
Thank you, Sir. 01:00:47
Finance. 01:00:52
Billy Joe. 01:00:56
How are you today? 01:00:58
I'm good, Commissioner 1 Commissioner, I don't have a whole lot to report. 01:01:03
I'm just working. 01:01:08
Day-to-day stuff we are still continuing to learn. 01:01:09
Auditors, they actually. 01:01:12
Today on an e-mail so it's pretty lengthy. 01:01:15
Lately, that they are. 01:01:18
I said everything's looking good. 01:01:21
I expect nothing less from you. 01:01:24
Other than that, I have nothing else. 3 Three years in a row? Four years in a row, No. 01:01:25
4th and now we're going to buy. 01:01:30
I do have I do have a comment. 01:01:38
I looked at the. 01:01:41
All the checks. 01:01:42
You know. 01:01:44
And pretty extraordinary. 01:01:45
Is it possible to? 01:01:50
Add a column as to what department. 01:01:55
These checks are associated with. 01:01:57
And the reason why? 01:02:00
Is because instead of me or somebody else asking you what was this for? 01:02:02
I would like to go to the department head. 01:02:07
And ask them because they're the ones that are account. 01:02:10
OK. Can you do that? 01:02:14
The system could do that, yeah. 01:02:16
I just need to figure out. 01:02:18
And then yeah. And then. 01:02:20
Well, that would be great. 01:02:22
Maybe that's good enough. 01:02:24
OK. But you can put them all by department. Wow. What's going on here? OK, OK. 01:02:25
Thank you. Anything else? 01:02:31
Finance departments been doing a great job. We've been inundating them with. 01:02:35
PO and checks and we're we're working on those processes. So you see that. 01:02:39
Yeah. 01:02:44
That's how you can. 01:02:46
Yeah. 01:02:47
OK, that's excellent. 01:02:49
Senior Services. 01:02:51
Yeah, I think she had some. 01:02:53
Personal business issues, I can't apologize. 01:02:56
I want to take. 01:02:59
The privilege as chair. 01:03:01
To move an item, if you don't mind. 01:03:03
Commission, because we have a representative here and if you look. 01:03:05
You look on your agenda at the consent items. 01:03:09
Is that item number 5? 01:03:12
This is for the Friends of Historic Lincoln County. 01:03:16
Now normally this would be. 01:03:18
Almost a rubber stamp on this one, but I wanted to ask. 01:03:21
Miss Elaine Allen. 01:03:26
He really she she's not the mayor of Lincoln, but she's the. 01:03:28
Even I'm kind of the mayor of Lincoln, but but. 01:03:35
Those are. 01:03:39
So thank you. Welcome to the Commission meeting and I wanted. 01:03:41
I wanted you to kind of give us an outline of what you think. 01:03:45
The impact is. 01:03:48
Of the Billboard. 01:03:50
Right, the Billboard that you're asking for the funding for? 01:03:52
And because I think it's important, we talked yesterday about this. 01:03:55
So good morning, Chair Fisher and Commissioners. 01:03:58
1st, I want to thank you very much for your support in the past with this billboard. 01:04:01
I think this is the third year that we've. 01:04:06
We've had a billboard. This is the second year we've had it located on Hwy. 70. 01:04:09
Just West of the 10 E silver dollar. 01:04:14
So as you can, you're familiar with that road, you kind of come around and turn around and then there it is right in front of you. 01:04:17
So we are in partnership with the state again, they're going to pay half and we're going to pay half and of course y'all are 01:04:24
paying half. 01:04:27
It's it's the truth of it all. We're asking you to help us payout. 01:04:31
Yeah, the people are. 01:04:35
And but. 01:04:37
What we found and what I talked to our site manager yesterday about it again. 01:04:39
And he and DCA Department of Cultural Affairs, they feel like the billboards are very effective. 01:04:43
Of course, they don't have specific information on our billboard, but the billboards throughout the state they find to be very 01:04:50
effective. 01:04:53
That's why they continue. 01:04:57
Doing, you know, having them. 01:04:58
So I personally the only. 01:05:00
The only thing I can tell you personally is that. 01:05:03
I honestly don't leave the house very often, but when I do, I go down to the post office, the gathering point of Lincoln, and I 01:05:06
run across tourists all the time. 01:05:10
And you know, they ask questions who shot who 1st and you know, all that kind of stuff. And where was the first shot fired? 01:05:15
I'm learning a lot. I've been there 25 years, so I finally have a few answers to some of these questions. 01:05:20
But you know, I'll say, well, you know, how do you tell him up here, you know what's going on? And they're like, well, you know, 01:05:26
we've forgotten all about it. We were on our way to Ruidoso and there's that billboard and. 01:05:30
Like, Oh yeah, let's go through that way because. 01:05:35
Of course, you can travel through Lincoln to get rid of so, so it's not like that to come back, go back around. 01:05:38
In my personal experience, I've had several encounters with just people in general that are just. 01:05:43
You know, I always say hello to the tourists. You obviously know who the tourists are because there's only 25 people that are 01:05:49
there all the time. 01:05:52
So, umm. 01:05:56
It's a treat to get to visit with people and. 01:05:57
The love of Billy the Kid, even though some people don't like Billy the Kid and we do get letters to that effect, all of us, but. 01:06:01
You know, it's, it's an amazing thing that people travel from all over the world to visit that historic site. 01:06:09
And I want to brag on our site manager, he's Oliver Thorns. 01:06:16
And he has just done a great job. It's just amazing. 01:06:20
And of course, my concern, and the only concern I have is the protection of the buildings. 01:06:24
I the tourists come and we have to have the tourists. 01:06:28
Obviously that's what pays for. 01:06:31
For everything to go forward. 01:06:33
But uh. 01:06:35
Just that. 01:06:36
Protection of that community. 01:06:37
I and I don't know if I told you this last time, but. 01:06:39
In the last. 01:06:43
Year, I think, or maybe. 01:06:44
Before that. 01:06:46
They found, you know, the civilization goes back to 200. The Maggiano Pueblo settled there in the year 200. That's what they have 01:06:48
record of. 01:06:51
That's what they're proof of. They don't know before that, you know. 01:06:56
And so we just found. 01:06:59
A burial chamber right behind the toriel. 01:07:01
They dated it to 1200. 01:07:04
It was a little person, of course, and. 01:07:06
With a pot on it, Ted. 01:07:08
And so I mean. 01:07:10
So for me, the love of. 01:07:12
Lincoln obvious is obvious. 01:07:15
But the reason is not that. 01:07:18
You know, Billy the Kid was there, whatever. It has been populated for such a very long time and you can just feel it. The history 01:07:21
is just there and it's wonderful. And so I'm very happy to. 01:07:27
Works as the chair of the friends you know to try to. 01:07:33
Continued the protection of the buildings primarily. That's what the friends does. It's a. 01:07:36
Fundraising arm for the historic site, not for the town of Lincoln. 01:07:42
But for the historic site itself. 01:07:46
And, umm. 01:07:48
And that's what Lincoln is. I mean, we are a community that's around there and the people do live there. And, you know, we're very 01:07:49
happy to be there, but. 01:07:53
Best is. 01:07:57
Magical, uh. 01:07:59
And to be preserved all this. 01:08:00
All these many years. 01:08:02
And it almost wasn't, you know, in the early 70s when the Commission. 01:08:04
Put together the preservation ordinance. 01:08:07
The buildings were wrecks, all except for the courthouse and the Tunstall. 01:08:10
So you know, those things can happen. So that's. 01:08:15
50 years. 01:08:18
So, so, so you. I want to just. 01:08:19
Highlight. 01:08:22
Days. 01:08:24
Umm, tell us a little bit about that. I have some interest. Well, thank you very much for being in our parade. 01:08:26
We appreciated it very much. That was very nice fun. 01:08:31
Yeah, it was fun. It was great to see you and your wife that was that was lovely. 01:08:34
A Lincoln Days. 01:08:39
We were up in attendance. 01:08:41
And of course. 01:08:43
Old Lincoln. Anything, anything that happens in this area depends on. 01:08:44
The strength of Ruidoso. 01:08:50
And what Ruidoso is, you know, the tourism, the tourists that are there through the summer and everything, and then they get to go 01:08:52
out and. 01:08:55
Visit the other things in the county. 01:08:58
And our our visitation was up this year, even with the problems that everybody's having. 01:09:00
And the pageant board, which has been going, the pageant has been going on. I think they're in their 88th year now, which is 01:09:07
amazing. 01:09:10
I think any group of people that can work together for 88 years, it's phenomenal and I don't care. And they all fight with each 01:09:15
other. They all have. It's a big family and they just have a big old brouhaha every year. It's great fun. 01:09:20
But they're, you know, they managed to put that together. So they're 88 here and their attendance was sky high. 01:09:27
They brought, you know, they were thrilled to death with the attendance. 01:09:33
Yeah, I think they had that one evening once in. 01:09:35
Saturday. I guess it would. 01:09:39
They almost broke 800. Yeah, well, and I heard to hope. They thought maybe it came closer to 1000 and even on Friday and Sunday. 01:09:40
Which are lower, you know, so people are still coming and. 01:09:49
And they still managed to. 01:09:52
Put it together, which is wonderful. 01:09:54
I think we had. 01:09:57
Maybe 3 deputies that were engaged in that in that process too. 01:09:57
One player to make in this family goes back way far in that peasant. 01:10:02
So, so anyway, I just wanted to highlight that because I think it's it, it is one of the it's a smaller. 01:10:07
But it's a very big draw. 01:10:13
So people come here and they go to Ruidoso, they go to other places. 01:10:15
And you can even drink good beer there. 01:10:20
And we're hoping some of the other places that are for sale that I'm carrying, they're getting nibbles. 01:10:24
The Dolan house has been vacant for some time. 01:10:29
We the the biggest. 01:10:32
Drawback, I guess, of the problem that Lincoln has is that. 01:10:35
No food? No, there's water, but there's no food. 01:10:39
You know, so people come, they don't really expect that, so they don't really have anything to do. 01:10:42
That a man and his wife from. 01:10:47
Mathia, they own a Billy the Kid gift shop in Mathia and they've opened one in Lincoln and so they're going to start putting 01:10:50
together sack lunches or something like that for people that come to town. So that'll. 01:10:56
To help people stay a little longer and then stay in the county a little longer. 01:11:02
OK. Any any questions or comments? 01:11:07
Thank you so much. Well, I hope you approve this again and again. Thank you so much. We really appreciate it. 01:11:12
You're very welcome. Thank you for everything you all do. 01:11:19
Since since we pulled this out of the consent items. 01:11:21
Placed at this point, this one, I think we could. 01:11:26
You can entertain a motion to approve it. 01:11:29
#5. 01:11:32
What do you want to do? 01:11:36
How you doing, Fisher? We can do that and prove it in the original. 01:11:37
Yeah, I think we could. 01:11:41
I'll entertain a motion to approve this $5000. 01:11:45
Largest tax award for the Billboard. 01:11:49
Mr. Chairman, make a motion that we approve the request of $5000 from the Friends of Historic Lincoln County. 01:11:53
Were there billboard? 01:12:00
Thank you. Second. 01:12:01
Nancock Rocker, please. 01:12:04
Commissioner Chavez. 01:12:07
Yes, Commissioner Prater. 01:12:08
Aye. 01:12:10
Commissioner Wilson. Yes, sure. Fisher. 01:12:11
All right. OK. Thank you. I just want to do that while you were still here. 01:12:13
We don't have to talk again. 01:12:18
All right, great. 01:12:23
All right, so next. 01:12:25
Um, elected officials. 01:12:27
1st, we don't have senior services. 01:12:31
So we'll move on to that. 01:12:33
And Sheriff Wood, would you like to say a few words about your activities last month, last meeting and how things are going? 01:12:35
Sir, Sir, Mr. Chairman. 01:12:45
Michael, would you like? 01:12:49
Have a exciting announcement to make? 01:12:52
First time ever first. 01:12:56
History of the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office. 01:12:57
We have a school resource. 01:13:00
Tipping problem now. 01:13:02
So yeah. 01:13:04
A lot of that is due to you. 01:13:07
A seated Board of Commissioners that supports. 01:13:11
Their law enforcement, So I couldn't have done it without you. 01:13:14
It was high time we're going to focus primarily on the Corona schools. 01:13:17
And the Honda rule? 01:13:21
Do the geographic so. 01:13:24
We're excited about that. 01:13:25
So we're having to share it's. 01:13:27
We're finding our way, but again, we want to thank you for your support. 01:13:29
You helped make that happen, so. 01:13:33
I'll share briefly with you some stats generated by my office since we met last. 01:13:35
Needed 15 motor vehicle accidents. 01:13:42
Affected. 01:13:46
26 arrests. 01:13:47
After 296 calls for service. 01:13:49
And I only received 36 zipper requests so wow. 01:13:54
Man. 01:13:57
In our world, we all know what I'm talking about, right? 01:14:00
So I stand for questions. 01:14:03
How have you, I guess the question I have we we made a big effort last year. 01:14:08
To significantly. 01:14:13
Improve the compensation for your deputies with the hope that. 01:14:15
Recruitment retention would be improved. 01:14:20
Do you have any comments on that? 01:14:23
We're definitely seeing an impact to that. We're getting, we're generally we're getting some attention we haven't. 01:14:26
That I have to attribute. 01:14:31
To that right there that's. 01:14:33
So what it's all about? 01:14:34
You know, it's all about the money. We're sitting here talking a while ago about CDL drivers. 01:14:36
And what you're going to do, you're talking about benefits and. 01:14:41
Showcasing your equipment, that's all you got. 01:14:46
You don't have a big paycheck. Those are what you're limited to do. So I don't know how he. 01:14:49
Manages to do that. That's a. 01:14:55
That driver's license is much like. 01:14:58
Our certification with the state. 01:15:00
With the state it is a. 01:15:02
The sought after commodity if you aren't competing with. 01:15:04
The 80 County Road department or the. 01:15:09
Luna County Road Department, you're not into it. 01:15:11
You're a stepping stone for them to go somewhere else. 01:15:14
And we see that in law enforcement all the time. 01:15:19
Smart. And I'm guilty of it. I started back when I started with the Dexter Marshall's office. It was a three man gig, right? There 01:15:23
was three of us. 01:15:26
Work general hours, four on, four off, seven days a week. 01:15:30
That's how we did it. 01:15:35
And then when the door opened, we moved. 01:15:37
We went on and I'm like. 01:15:40
Jeez, you guys paid by the month here? The sheriff office? No, that's two weeks or. 01:15:42
I'm thinking my God. 01:15:47
So they're in the same boat. 01:15:48
Absolutely. 01:15:50
And those drivers that jobs require CDL? 01:15:52
On a state or county level there. 01:15:55
You're lucky to have when you got a sweet and fine. You don't have a choice with. 01:15:57
To answer your question, yeah, you got some. 01:16:01
Something you got people's attention with that? 01:16:04
When it's open up. 01:16:07
It's the housing. 01:16:08
It's it's the housing, and he's gonna feel it, too. 01:16:10
Everybody is. 01:16:14
I had to relax my requirement. Deputy sheriff's lip here. 01:16:16
But when Mark Fisher or Timothy Franklin needs a sheriff, step to be honest. 01:16:19
Porch, you don't care where he lives. 01:16:23
So I've had to relax it. You can now live 50 miles from nearest county line. That's. 01:16:26
All right, well, during your. 01:16:32
All the way, Bulls Acres. 01:16:35
I have to do the math on a stancia but maybe? 01:16:37
Bond for sure. 01:16:41
But that's where I'm at. 01:16:42
That's where he's at. I know it is. 01:16:44
That's where the county's at. 01:16:46
So welcome aboard of these ladies you we were introduced to. 01:16:48
A moment ago that you've got people willing to come do it on county wages. 01:16:51
These days. 01:16:55
It's a struggle, it's challenge. 01:16:57
So, but we are up. 01:17:01
We're looking at a couple of. 01:17:02
One certified or one uncertified? We've got some applications in. 01:17:06
So that's. 01:17:11
Put the word out. 01:17:13
We are on a recruitment campaign. 01:17:14
And around here, I'm zeroing in. I'm focusing in. 01:17:17
On locals. 01:17:21
Kiddos, kids who just graduated college that. 01:17:24
Wouldn't mind. 01:17:27
Or has a dream of standing behind. 01:17:29
What I consider to be the most famous badge. 01:17:31
In the country, period, bar none, this is the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office. 01:17:34
I'm looking for some folks from up younger. 01:17:39
And your sons and daughters will take care of getting the best training equipment. 01:17:42
Work environment. 01:17:46
You could ask for that's what I need. 01:17:48
Those people who already know the geographics. 01:17:50
They know the county. 01:17:53
Than other people. 01:17:54
That's what I need. 01:17:56
Hard working ranch kids. 01:17:58
Some of those kids already vested in this county. 01:18:00
Come aboard, we'll be good to him. 01:18:03
I guarantee you that that's what we're focusing on. 01:18:06
So there's just a little bit of what we're doing. 01:18:10
We are not as. 01:18:12
In bad shape is. 01:18:14
Our other agencies in this county. 01:18:15
It's a struggle, it's impacting. 01:18:19
The municipality. 01:18:22
The municipal Police Department. 01:18:23
That whole housing. 01:18:26
Challenge. 01:18:27
But we're going to get through it because I guarantee you. Just give me a chance. 01:18:29
On some of these people that live in Roswell, you work up here for just a short amount of time and you're going to want to live 01:18:33
here. 01:18:36
It's paradise, too. 01:18:40
So thank you Sir, Hope I answered your question. 01:18:42
Thank you, Sir. Thank you, Thank you. 01:18:45
I'll wait till the treasurers report. 01:18:51
Okay, Mr. Assessor. 01:18:54
Good morning, Jeff Fisher, Commissioners. 01:18:57
He was more Lincoln County assessor. 01:19:03
We don't have too much going on other than our day-to-day operations. 01:19:05
As Vanessa mentioned, we did hire. 01:19:09
2 new employees which may anticipate to start on Monday so. 01:19:12
Of course that hopefully by that again. 01:19:16
One thing that I did want to mention is that Treasury, Huddersfield and I are working this week really hard in conjunction. 01:19:18
She'll get these. 01:19:25
Approval rates entered into our system. 01:19:27
There's quite a few administrative processes that need to take place on our side and their site. 01:19:30
So George and I will probably need to step out of the meeting a little early today. 01:19:34
Make sure that it's done by Thursday's midnight. 01:19:38
And really all I got. 01:19:41
I do have questions. Do you do you have any more visibility on the impact of the? 01:19:44
The change in exemptions from. 01:19:51
For veterans. 01:19:53
You do not. Actually we started receiving some of those. We received on yesterday again a 90%. 01:19:55
But we are we as an affiliate, as the assessors office, we're still waiting on PTD to issue. 01:20:01
English language know exactly how to. 01:20:07
How to empathize? 01:20:09
These exemptions because we don't know. 01:20:11
You don't know. 01:20:13
From from what we're understanding. 01:20:16
Our lawyers interpretation of the statute is. 01:20:20
Stating that if. 01:20:23
A property is owned in joint tenancy. 01:20:25
Then the the property is owned 50% by the spouse, 50% by the other spouse. 01:20:28
So. 01:20:34
That exemption would only be applicable to 50% of the ownership. 01:20:35
Of that property. So if it's $100,000 property. 01:20:39
It'll only apply to 50,000 of that. 01:20:43
But the Veterans Service Commission. 01:20:45
Season otherwise they just wanted. 01:20:48
So we don't know. 01:20:52
What is Trust? 01:20:54
I'm sorry, what if it's held in trust? 01:20:56
If it's held in trust, I believe it's. 01:20:58
I believe it applies to the entire trust. 01:21:01
According to what staffing needs now, but that's that's some of the language that's going to have to be. 01:21:04
You have to be. I don't know. 01:21:10
I've been had some some. 01:21:13
Conversations with the PT director. 01:21:15
There we go. And, uh. 01:21:18
We're kind of pushing on bait. We are just. 01:21:20
We're not going to do it until we have direction. You don't know. 01:21:23
OK. Any other questions, Commission. 01:21:28
Well, thank you, Sir. Thank you. I think maybe the clerks going to be very busy when people start changing the ownership when 01:21:32
somebody is. 01:21:35
When they figure that out. 01:21:40
Madam Clerk. 01:21:51
Mr. Shark, the Shore Commissioners. 01:21:53
We're in the midst of another election. 01:21:55
This is gonna be the regular local election, which is the schools. 01:21:58
The strong water conservation districts. The water and sanitation districts. 01:22:01
And all of the municipalities except 3 doses will be holding their own election. 01:22:05
This Saturday is when it starts. We're going to be sending out the military and oversee ballots starting this Saturday. 01:22:10
So they have time to complete them and get them back to us by Election Day. 01:22:14
We also have about 530 voters who have signed up. 01:22:18
For the permanent absentee list. 01:22:22
And then we have some of the regular absentee ballots. So we're going to start sending out absentee ballots on October. 01:22:24
October 7th is also the first day for early voting, and that's in our office. 01:22:30
And then early voting and results will begin on October 18th. 01:22:35
And then Election Day is obviously November 4th. We do have bookmarks available in the story out there if anybody would like to 01:22:39
take some. 01:22:42
Date times and locations of voting, and we're trying to get that information. 01:22:46
So that everybody can get their their valid cast sometimes. 01:22:50
I also wanted to thank everyone for getting us moved in 20 locations. 01:22:54
Starting with the Commission and the county manager authorizing and facilitating the purchase of the building. 01:22:58
We had Jesse in the road department. He spent a couple hours helping us move desks. 01:23:03
Even though he was sick that day for guys. 01:23:07
The biggest thank you, though, goes to Matt and for all of his help over the last few weeks. 01:23:11
He was painted, he laid tiles, he made desks. 01:23:16
He went above and beyond, making sure that we had what we. 01:23:18
What we needed and we were ready for the customers. 01:23:21
There are others that helped along the way. 01:23:23
And I can't name them all, but I hope that they know how much I appreciate them. 01:23:26
I'd also like to thank my staff. 01:23:29
For everything that they handled and went for over the last few weeks. 01:23:31
It was a lot. 01:23:35
Change is hard, but they did make my vision a reality and for that I'm thankful. 01:23:37
The. 01:23:43
And may not have agreed with everything I wanted to do, but they did it and. 01:23:46
And I'm very grateful for that. 01:23:50
And I would like to invite everybody to come over and. 01:23:53
Our building, whatever, the meeting is over. 01:23:55
Thank you. 01:23:58
Very good. And one of the key things to that is it's going to facilitate. 01:24:00
Harvard Public. 01:24:05
To go in there. 01:24:06
Unencumbered, right? That was a. That was one big point of that move. 01:24:08
The other the other part of that too is that now it opens up space. 01:24:13
At at this courthouse over there. 01:24:18
And that's going to allow us to do more work with that two-story monstrosity that we. 01:24:21
Have next door to us. 01:24:26
Because it will open up the ability. 01:24:28
To move people around like those games, you know? 01:24:30
And we can do the work there. 01:24:33
And then we can move on to somewhere else, so. 01:24:35
It it's all part of a plan. 01:24:38
Fuzzy right there. 01:24:41
Thank you. 01:24:43
OK. 01:24:45
Probate Judge. 01:24:47
Madam Judge, how are you? 01:24:51
Commissioner. 01:24:53
Rhonda Burrows probate does. 01:24:55
Thank you for this, these are lovely. 01:24:57
I'm a. 01:24:59
I'm sort of the 12th man on this team. On this football team, I'm the 10th. I left it official. 01:25:00
And uh. 01:25:06
I just wanted to take a moment to. 01:25:07
Echo what the clerk said and thank you for working with the county manager. 01:25:09
And. 01:25:13
Providing. 01:25:15
Lovely space for the clerk's office and also for the probate judge. 01:25:16
And one of the benefits to my process is. 01:25:20
There's actually a place where you can meet in private with people when they come to discuss issues that they may or may not have 01:25:23
with probate. 01:25:26
So I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for that and. 01:25:30
And I echo everything Shannon said. The staff and. 01:25:33
Matt has done a terrific job and done a lot of good work working, Sir, but I really appreciate that and it facilitates, you know, 01:25:36
access to the. 01:25:41
Also, I just wanted to mention that. 01:25:49
I don't attend regularly. We're actually discouraged by the judiciary from participating in these types of events. And so that's 01:25:51
not why I'm not here on a regular basis. It's not out of any. 01:25:56
Sign of disrespect for the Commission. 01:26:01
Plus, I have to confess, I sat through about 16 years the Commission meeting, so I don't always miss it, but it's always 01:26:04
informative and I appreciate being here. 01:26:08
Just listening to the various conversations, one thing I wanted to comment on. 01:26:13
I'm glad that we are redoing the website. 01:26:18
I I just. 01:26:21
Never liked the website that we had transitioned over to this. 01:26:22
Whatever version of that it was. 01:26:26
And I just want to bring up a point that. 01:26:29
And talking, hearing. 01:26:31
Former Commissioner Allen speak about Lincoln. 01:26:33
You know the clerk is in possession of probably the most valuable records collection in the country. 01:26:35
And years ago we had a lot of those historic documents scanned. 01:26:41
And made available through the website. 01:26:46
And when they transition to the new website, that kind of all got buried in the background. 01:26:48
And one of the things that I would. 01:26:53
Recommend is that we. 01:26:54
Create a process to make that more available, because I'll tell you when we first posted those on the website. 01:26:56
Whenever back in the. 01:27:02
Back in the day. 01:27:04
We had more hits. 01:27:05
To that, we actually had to put in an extra firewall because we had hits from every almost every single country around the world. 01:27:06
To that website to view those documents. 01:27:13
And so we talked about it as an economic development factor because it draws attention to Lincoln County, which is very famous 01:27:16
anyway. 01:27:19
So I would urge you as you go through that process to develop the website to. 01:27:24
To make a better. 01:27:28
Link to those historic documents and maybe even. 01:27:30
Highlight one or two of those as we go along. And the clerk and I have talked about that. I'm really big on the preservation and 01:27:32
maintenance of those historic documents, so. 01:27:37
That's just a suggestion. 01:27:41
But we did I we used to track that on Google Analytics and we actually had more. 01:27:43
Hits to those documents than to any website related to Lincoln County in the country. 01:27:47
So that tells you the power of that history. 01:27:53
And the the way you can be employed for economic development and promotion of the county. 01:27:55
Other than that I would stand for. I do. Just to mention I do keep regular hours at the clerks office. I'm here every Wednesday. 01:28:02
For for my position and my job, but. 01:28:09
If there's ever anything I can do or if you would like me to come. 01:28:12
For a Commission to do, I'm happy to do that. 01:28:16
But that's why I don't attend regularly, because it's sort of discouraged by the judiciary. 01:28:19
So let's stand for any questions. 01:28:25
Any questions? 01:28:29
Come in. But you're more than welcome to come. 01:28:30
And you could maintain your anonymity. 01:28:34
You can just kind of hide in the corner. 01:28:37
And if you have something good to say like this, we appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate that. It's not. I laugh. I said this dog 01:28:39
gave me this job so I would stop talking. 01:28:43
Because most of the people that know me know I haven't worked, yeah. 01:28:49
But thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, Jeff. 01:28:53
OK, County Manager. 01:28:57
I also want to skip you but. 01:29:00
Sorry, uh. 01:29:02
You'd have probably been doing me a favor if you would have, but. 01:29:05
No in All in all. Actually I do want to just. 01:29:07
So give some kudos. All this and. 01:29:11
All of our. 01:29:14
Contract employees are here you can see our. 01:29:15
Our dynamics changing. 01:29:18
And it's changing for the better. 01:29:20
So I think this is what we were tasked with is to create a team that works. 01:29:22
And we are moving in that direction and I really want to appreciate all the efforts and the folks that are supporting that effort. 01:29:26
We have several projects going on. 01:29:34
Throughout the county that we'll talk about here a little more detail later. 01:29:35
Lots of moving parts. 01:29:40
So with that, just to thank you and. 01:29:42
I think that's all I have. 01:29:46
So stand up for questions. 01:29:48
Questions or comments? 01:29:50
This is our. 01:29:54
Newly appointed, contracted A. 01:29:56
County Attorney, this is Miss Alexander Bobbitt. 01:29:59
And we're thrilled she's on too. So. 01:30:01
There you go. Welcome. 01:30:04
Thank you for having me. 01:30:05
Have some other introductions as we go through today with presentations. 01:30:09
I want to invite the county commissioners to make some comments or talk about. 01:30:14
The things that they've done. 01:30:19
The last month. 01:30:20
I think you're interested in. 01:30:22
You want to talk about and. 01:30:24
And I'm gonna bug Mr. Wilson first. 01:30:25
At this point, Mr. Mr. Chairman. 01:30:30
So I've had some interaction with. 01:30:34
The association of counties. 01:30:37
Keeping us a positive stuff. 01:30:39
That could benefit. 01:30:40
On some channels, etcetera. 01:30:42
Had those conversations with. 01:30:45
Or manager early on. 01:30:47
In a month after last week. 01:30:48
Other than that. 01:30:51
Voter Report. 01:30:53
Thank you. Thank you. 01:30:56
Commissioner Wilson. Mr. Chavez. 01:30:58
How about a great concern about the water? 01:31:00
Situation we're having. 01:31:02
In Hondo Hondo Valley. 01:31:04
Women always get somebody. 01:31:08
To take a look at that. 01:31:10
And see why. 01:31:12
It's happening. 01:31:14
I believe that. 01:31:15
I've talked to a few people and I believe that. 01:31:16
A lot of it is the. 01:31:18
Graphite and all that stuff that's in there. 01:31:20
It's blocking a lot of them. 01:31:22
Permeation. 01:31:25
And I also like to thank. 01:31:28
All the county. 01:31:29
The people. 01:31:31
Behind the scenes and everything else for what they do. 01:31:33
Unrecognized. 01:31:36
Thank you, Sir. 01:31:39
Hey there, I'd like to yield my tongue. 01:31:42
OK, so so done. 01:31:45
I'll just take the time to echo Commissioner Chavez's comments. 01:31:48
All of your all's hard work and. 01:31:52
Lens that you've been demonstrating from. 01:31:54
There and our Office of Emergency Services and the road department and facilities. 01:31:58
All of your efforts are really shining bright, I can tell you that. 01:32:05
The community is seeing a huge impact for the better and I just want to tell you that hats off and I appreciate your hard work day 01:32:09
in and day off. 01:32:12
Thank you man. 01:32:18
I I would emphasize everything that's been set up here. 01:32:23
I would say a couple of things. 01:32:26
I've noticed a particularly strong. 01:32:30
Improvement. 01:32:33
In in the morale and the effectiveness of the county. 01:32:35
County folks. 01:32:39
And that comes from leadership. 01:32:41
It comes from the ability to. 01:32:43
Have a vision. 01:32:45
Be consistent. 01:32:47
Fair and clear. 01:32:49
And I think it makes a big difference. 01:32:52
Obvious in my mind. 01:32:54
And what I see, I'd really appreciate that. 01:32:56
Jason for what you brought to the table. 01:32:59
Very impressive. 01:33:01
Sometimes I feel like we got to put a bit in your mouth to slow you down. 01:33:03
That's good. 01:33:09
It's very good. That's right. 01:33:10
That's right. 01:33:16
But but it it is important, it's important to recognize that. 01:33:24
Because it did. 01:33:27
It really impacts everything and you're going to see, I think in the. 01:33:28
The rest of the agenda, you're going to see some fruits of that. 01:33:34
As we move forward now, having said. 01:33:37
That I want to move on to one of the things. 01:33:39
And I'm going to bring it bring it up in in open forum because. 01:33:42
Something that I think we. 01:33:47
Could get behind as a Commission. 01:33:49
I've made some efforts and they've not been very fruitful. 01:33:52
And trying to ascertain. 01:33:56
The exact wells. 01:33:58
Impacted down there in the valley. 01:34:01
I told a lot of people down there, most of them are my friends. 01:34:04
But they they don't believe they're going to get help and they just go ahead and. 01:34:07
And take care of these things on their own. 01:34:10
Some unfortunately don't have the wherewithal. 01:34:13
To do that. 01:34:16
We're talking about wells that could be almost. 01:34:18
Over 100 years old, some hand. 01:34:20
7080 hundred feet. 01:34:23
And they're going dry adjacent to the river. 01:34:25
And and I think. 01:34:29
Your assessment as to why that's happening, you know, coincidence. 01:34:30
Doesn't necessarily prove causality. 01:34:33
But we know that the problems with these wells occurred. 01:34:37
Right after the last year's floods and subsequent floods this year. 01:34:40
And so when you look. 01:34:45
You walk that river and you see that debris and the silt and the sediment there and and and. 01:34:47
Mr. Wilson is an expert in this. 01:34:53
You can understand. 01:34:55
How a seal can form in the bottom of a river with that material? 01:34:58
And that literally prevents the percolation of the water that recharges those wells. 01:35:03
Normally. 01:35:10
So they're not recharging the way they should and they're needed to so that. 01:35:11
The demands on the wells exceed that. 01:35:15
The rates of percolation. 01:35:17
So I I guess what I'm asking for is I'd like to get some help. 01:35:20
Uh, maybe from one of our departments or a couple. 01:35:25
And actually put a task force or a task team. 01:35:28
Together to actually knock on doors. 01:35:32
Knock on doors. 01:35:35
And we've got match. We know where these wells are. You can go on the office. 01:35:38
United State Engineers Office, You know where the wells are. 01:35:41
And actually go and talk to these people and figure out who's got problems when the dates. 01:35:44
Of the province commenced. 01:35:49
Are they? Is it improving? 01:35:51
And then from that, that data set can be used to try to get some help. 01:35:53
From the state. 01:35:58
So that's something I would like to get support from the Commission. 01:36:00
Actually. 01:36:05
Designate a couple of people, Jason. 01:36:06
To actually start this and get this, get this done, I've got. 01:36:09
I've got some information from. 01:36:13
From DHS em. 01:36:16
That suggests they might be able to help out some of these people. 01:36:18
And we don't have time. 01:36:22
And they're suffering. That's right. 01:36:24
So so if I can get a nod. 01:36:26
I'd like to make another comment. 01:36:29
Yes, so. 01:36:31
Personal experience. 01:36:33
Well down in the valley. 01:36:35
My father. 01:36:36
When it started aerating. 01:36:38
First, you know, four months ago. 01:36:40
Picking up air into the pump so. 01:36:44
I mean, and that was a well that was not. 01:36:47
Over 90 years old, I believe this well, was still case. 01:36:51
And it was not a. 01:36:55
On the register at the State. 01:36:57
State level so. 01:36:59
May have to knock on doors. 01:37:01
For people that. 01:37:02
Have wealth and overall. 01:37:04
You know, 80 to 100 years old to. 01:37:05
Yeah. So, so maybe we can talk about this offline, but I'm getting nods. 01:37:07
And the Commission, and I'm going to. 01:37:13
Work with with the county manager to make sure we get this done. 01:37:16
In short order. 01:37:20
OK. And and then you had, I mean, so then you had to read drill the well? 01:37:22
Yes. So somewhere else. 01:37:27
We moved the we moved the well 25 feet. The well was 80 foot deep at one time. 01:37:29
And now it's at 160 feet. 01:37:33
Yeah, so double what it was before. 01:37:36
OK. All right. With that, I'd like to take a like a recess for 10 minutes, 10 minutes. 01:37:40
20 after. 01:37:50
Like a bio break if you need one or whatever. 01:37:52
So the next item on the agenda? 01:37:57
Presentation by Universal Waste Systems regarding Lincoln County solid waste. 01:38:06
Mr. Manager, please. 01:38:11
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 01:38:13
We've asked EWS Universal Waste Systems. 01:38:15
To come in and just give us a. 01:38:19
Presentation update around their current operations that they do for us. They are our current solid waste contractor. 01:38:22
And we've. 01:38:31
Been kicking around the idea of. 01:38:34
How we can restructure this in conjunction with them to? 01:38:37
Ensure that we're improving illegal dumping and I know it's quite a challenge. 01:38:41
But we'll go ahead and let her give her presentation and then we'll stand for any questions. And this is Miss Greg and Vaughn. 01:38:45
And Mr. Ernie buyers in the audience so. 01:38:51
With that, we'll turn it over to you. 01:38:54
Thank you so much. 01:38:56
Good morning. 01:38:57
Mr. Chairman and Commissioner, it's good to see you again and be in front of you, and we do have a brief PowerPoint we'd like to 01:38:58
answer. 01:39:01
Basically it's a lot of statistics just to update you on current operations and maybe some things that you. 01:39:05
Didn't know about what we do. 01:39:11
And so and so. 01:39:13
Thank you, Sir. 01:39:16
The universal waste system. 01:39:17
Is a family owned business. We've been in business over 30 years now. 01:39:19
The corporation has grown into a. 01:39:23
A sizable corporation we. 01:39:25
Provide service in three states. 01:39:27
But being that it's still a family owned business. 01:39:30
They give us a lot of leeway in terms of. 01:39:32
Structuring our programs. 01:39:35
To fit the area that we serve, it's not just A1 size at all and they also. 01:39:37
Really encourage us to start building a lot of community relationships and partnerships which. 01:39:42
You know, being an. 01:39:47
My former career in public service, I really love that because we really get to get involved in the community. 01:39:49
And get to know y'all and what the priorities of the communities are. 01:39:55
And it's. 01:39:59
It really makes my job a lot of fun. 01:40:00
We do operate facilities. 01:40:03
Throughout the state. 01:40:06
And in our other areas, including landfill transfer stations, greenways, collection centers, recycling facilities. 01:40:07
Complex facilities. 01:40:14
And collection vehicle manufacturing. 01:40:16
When we did. 01:40:19
We're honored with this contract. We did acquire Sierra. 01:40:20
Contacting home the country prior to us. 01:40:24
And. 01:40:26
As doing that there were no lots of local jobs. 01:40:27
And then? 01:40:31
Finally, we have added a registered air carton burner facility. 01:40:32
At our yard here. 01:40:37
In response. 01:40:38
To the fire cleanups. 01:40:39
And the mitigation and everything that's been going on. 01:40:41
Then we invested in not believing that it absolutely helped the recovery time be expedited. 01:40:44
As there didn't have to be a lot of separate storage. 01:40:51
Like temporary storage facilities for all this green waste. 01:40:54
And then all the direct calling to landfills. 01:40:57
With you know that does take a lot of time as the nearest Lance. 01:41:00
Each over 80 miles away. 01:41:03
And so in doing this, we help. 01:41:05
We feel like we've really helped come. 01:41:06
Feed that process along and provide a valuable resource. 01:41:09
To the county. 01:41:12
I'll keep moving. 01:41:21
OK. So for our New Mexico operations, we have 7, I'm sorry, 8 New Mexico offices in yards. 01:41:23
They're listed right there. 01:41:28
We have. 01:41:30
7 facilities that we operate in the state. 01:41:33
From transfer stations to landfills. 01:41:37
So the facilities we have here, composting, air curtain burn. 01:41:39
Centers, et cetera. 01:41:43
And then we hold 13 local government contacts in the state. 01:41:44
In terms of our account. 01:41:48
That we service here with us. 01:41:51
To as our last counting. 01:41:53
Last week we were at 4017. 01:41:55
Accounts. We did lose 497 accounts. 01:41:58
During the fires. 01:42:01
And just because I had the information up, I just decided to do a little. 01:42:03
Data analysis and SO 70. 01:42:07
When we receive our information from the Assessor's office, we receive mailing addresses. 01:42:09
As of all the customers that we have, 75% of those do have mailing addresses. 01:42:13
Here in Lincoln. 01:42:19
We work daily with the assessor's office to update our account, so when anybody goes in and there's a change in property ownership 01:42:21
etcetera. 01:42:25
Then Leroy and his people are just wonderful. We work closely with Dina and Tendai Leroy and so we do our best. 01:42:29
Reconciled every single day to make sure that our billing is. 01:42:36
I have some questions. Just go back to. 01:42:40
Previous one please. 01:42:43
So, residential accounts, 4017. 01:42:45
Is that that's contracted, right? We've contracted with you. 01:42:49
Yes, and so. 01:42:52
So. 01:42:54
The 497 accounts that we've lost. 01:42:55
Since last year. 01:43:00
We're you're, we're still paying, we're paying you for those accounts. That's the. 01:43:02
Make up for this. 01:43:07
Threw up pieces that I mean this is a question, right? So so. 01:43:08
So I. 01:43:13
So the question. 01:43:14
We've lost the accounts which means. 01:43:15
For whatever reason. 01:43:18
Those those buildings are burned out, flooded out, what have you. 01:43:21
And but from a. 01:43:26
Contract standpoint. 01:43:28
You're getting paid. 01:43:31
4 Four, 4017. 01:43:32
Accounts correct? 01:43:35
We, Mr. Chairman, the 4017 are the the number of accounts that we built. 01:43:36
The 497 accounts that were removed from the tax rolls no longer received billing. 01:43:42
The true up is. 01:43:46
Strictly based. 01:43:48
On past few accounts. 01:43:49
And those. 01:43:51
The 497 are not included in that. 01:43:52
So. 01:44:00
So you're. 01:44:02
Your receipts. 01:44:04
Whether they come from a true up standpoint. 01:44:06
Or they're paid by the. 01:44:09
The people that you're sending bills out. 01:44:11
IS 4017 -, 497. 01:44:14
Is that true? No. 01:44:17
Mr. Chairman, our original numbers were closer to 5000. 01:44:19
When we took over the contract, I'm sorry, 4500. 01:44:24
When I took over the contract so. 01:44:27
We lost the 497. 01:44:29
Last year. 01:44:32
OK. So our baseline on the contract is 4017, is that true? 01:44:35
At this time, yes, they fluctuate as properties are sold. 01:44:39
You know, or become. 01:44:43
So you don't have a guaranteed minimum. 01:44:45
In the contract. 01:44:48
For the mailing address is a 3004. I mean this is not. I'm not trying to just. 01:44:50
Want to understand this? 01:44:56
Does that mean that? 01:44:59
You know 1013. 01:45:01
Are not being billed. 01:45:03
Mr. Chairman, Nope. What that means is the 3004 mailing addresses that are actually within Lincoln County. 01:45:07
We you know. 01:45:14
When I run an active services report, the information that comes. 01:45:16
From. 01:45:19
So, Lincoln County Assessor's Office. 01:45:20
Is mainly. 01:45:22
And So what? When I ran that report, I just sorted it. 01:45:24
By city and state. 01:45:28
And So what this means to me is that 3000. 01:45:29
Four of those. 01:45:33
Of the 4017 accounts actually live here in Lincoln County. 01:45:35
I just thought that was interesting, you know? So you're saying that. 01:45:39
The other thousand reside elsewhere and have. 01:45:42
Properties here in Lincoln County. 01:45:45
That they do pay solid waste for. 01:45:47
However, they don't have a mailing address. 01:45:49
Indicating that they may not live here full time they've received. 01:45:51
Their mail in other cities numbers inconsequential with respect to the contract in terms it is. I just thought it was no, it just 01:45:55
seems. 01:45:59
What is our makeup? 01:46:09
Per quarter. 01:46:10
In other words, what is the county? 01:46:13
True the true up. Thank you. 01:46:15
Trula, I will have to look. I didn't bring those numbers with me. We do those on a biannual basis. 01:46:17
They're done twice per year, so there's been 3 so far. 01:46:24
And. 01:46:27
And they are going down. 01:46:28
Because recently each time. 01:46:30
Has seen those those invoices in and I'll be happy to bring them to you. I have those in my office if you let me go get them real 01:46:34
quick. 01:46:37
Just apologize, I didn't. I think I think this is important because what I'm what I'm looking for is what is the? 01:46:42
The overhead to the county. 01:46:48
No, not and I'm I'm excluding. 01:46:51
The individual subscribers, but what does the county? 01:46:54
Have to have to pay to continue. 01:46:58
The services that. 01:47:01
Weekend, that's all, and I think that's important for the people to know. 01:47:02
OK, absolutely. 01:47:06
And just real quick to just. 01:47:08
Finish out this little section. 01:47:10
So the rate currently is $30.00 per month and. 01:47:12
For that $30, customers basically receive unlimited trash dumping capacity. 01:47:15
Because they can use. 01:47:20
Whether they're a polycarp customer or using the. 01:47:22
The contractors or the. 01:47:25
They can, basically. 01:47:27
You know, as much as they want and those, it's not like they're confined. 01:47:28
Like you are municipalities to just. 01:47:32
The one little polycarp or whatever. 01:47:34
They Lincoln County customers residing in the unincorporated area. 01:47:38
Also can bring their large items and their greenways to our yard at no charge. 01:47:42
We do they also receive. 01:47:46
Access to 18. 01:47:48
Community and greenways cleanups. We do 16 community and then two biannual greenways cleanup. 01:47:50
And then though, the contract did allow for a CPI increase in 2025. 01:47:55
Our ownership of. 01:48:01
You know, elected not to. 01:48:03
Request to ask you know, let me ask you a question on. 01:48:04
On the. 01:48:07
Unincorporated residents. 01:48:09
Being able to dump. 01:48:12
At your yard, right? 01:48:13
Are there any limitations with respect to? 01:48:17
So. So I'll be very specific. 01:48:20
We had a. 01:48:23
One of our citizens came in and and. 01:48:25
Pointed out at Bill and I pause it don't have it with me, but. 01:48:27
It it seemed like it was a very small amount of material. 01:48:31
Do you remember that? 01:48:35
Manager browser and. 01:48:37
And he was charged almost $10.00 for it. He claimed it was. 01:48:39
About 1 yard. 01:48:43
But it included, you know, some 2 by fours and. 01:48:46
Maybe some drywall is that? Is that an excluded? 01:48:50
I guess they were. 01:48:53
Where they were considering considering it commercial waste even though. 01:48:55
You know, he was not a contractor. He was. 01:48:59
Working on his house. 01:49:02
Right. So, so you guys charge? 01:49:04
That would be more of an earning question. I don't believe we don't charge for household. 01:49:07
Generated. 01:49:12
Add waste things typically you put in your kitchen bag. 01:49:13
If they're cleaning your garage or. 01:49:17
Turn down a barn. 01:49:19
That's another thing. 01:49:20
In charge for that? Absolutely. 01:49:21
And we we got a lot of those torn down. 01:49:25
Materials. 01:49:28
They had dumped at the. 01:49:29
Good answer site. It's and I think we're going and they. 01:49:31
There. Well, it's not free there. No, I mean, it's not free there. 01:49:35
About for them. 01:49:40
Nothing free. 01:49:41
Is that correct? 01:49:42
I get. 01:49:44
But. 01:49:45
We're talking. We're talking about it. I don't want to. 01:49:47
Dragged this conversation too much longer, but it is important. 01:49:49
We're trying to eliminate or reduce and the guys. 01:49:54
The fact that you send your. 01:49:58
Cruise out to clean up those. 01:50:00
That illegal dumping which is occurring. 01:50:02
And it is very helpful, right? And if it's clean? 01:50:05
People don't tend to necessarily brought something, but if it's dirty, oh it's a dump site. 01:50:10
I'll dump it all day long. 01:50:15
And I see that. 01:50:17
In my little world. 01:50:18
Out there. 01:50:19
Penny and Arabella. 01:50:20
But my point is that we might be. 01:50:23
Driving some of that illegal behavior because people don't want to go to the dump. 01:50:26
And pay. 01:50:31
I think that's something we might consider. 01:50:33
Is it? Is it more cost effective to move some of that directly to your yard? 01:50:36
3 or 4. 01:50:41
You see my point? I do, Mr. Chairman, and. 01:50:45
Mr. Burns and I've had a conversation about this and we're going to get together in the next few weeks. 01:50:48
And try to come up with a plan. 01:50:53
As it is right now, people are creature of habits. 01:50:55
I've been dropping it off here, my neighbor dropped it off here. It's going to continue. 01:50:58
Just so you know. 01:51:04
Comparison side by side, month to month. 01:51:06
The illegal doping has increased over 40%. 01:51:09
From this time last year. 01:51:12
Then we. Oh, I'm sorry. 01:51:13
By the way, great. 01:51:17
Improvement, improvement. 01:51:19
So there's a. 01:51:20
A lot going on. 01:51:21
We've it's kind of like when you go into a. 01:51:23
Grocery store. 01:51:27
And you go to the meat department and they don't, you don't have their meat. 01:51:28
Everybody says, hey, we're out of that meat, but when you go. 01:51:32
If someone's there, you don't notice it. 01:51:35
So as the. 01:51:38
Dumpsters get full. 01:51:39
We try to service every dumpster in the minimum of 1, so everything does get services at least once a week. 01:51:41
Our drivers have a route she. 01:51:47
It's now signed dated. 01:51:49
Picture statement. 01:51:51
So we're really trying to keep track. 01:51:53
Any illegal company. 01:51:55
The capacity do we need increase or do decrease or relocate? 01:51:57
We're really trying to do the right thing, there's no question about that. 01:52:01
This is not an attack. 01:52:05
This is trying to find solutions. 01:52:07
And and no doubt in my mind, we won't change all behaviors. 01:52:09
But if I know that I've got a trailer. 01:52:13
That's got a shed that I tore down or that the. 01:52:16
Floods blew out or? 01:52:20
Fire, you know. 01:52:22
And I can take it to your site. 01:52:24
You're not gonna charge me. 01:52:26
Money that I may or may not want to pay or have. 01:52:29
Maybe it would encourage. 01:52:32
That. 01:52:34
Behavior over what? 01:52:35
Flying on now? Maybe not. 01:52:37
I don't know how receptive people would be, the distance and whatnot. Uh. 01:52:39
We we're willing to sit down and figure out something that works. It's a. 01:52:44
It's coffee, do you consider? 01:52:48
I'm very ugly sex. 01:52:51
Yeah, stop it. 01:52:55
We appreciate what you're doing. So you got those figures. 01:52:57
Yes, Sir. So we do have. We've had. 01:53:00
3. 01:53:03
Uh, invoices on this would chew up. 01:53:07
And I have to remember the dates on this. I might have to get Bill Joe to help me on somebody. 01:53:10
Reagan's probably. 01:53:18
Yeah. 01:53:21
So our last one that we paid this year was $119,000 hundred 19,000. So that's that's the second in the series for this year, 01:53:22
correct. 01:53:26
Look if I might, Mr. Chairman, that 119,000 did include $56,250. 01:53:31
Of the 225. 01:53:38
$1000. 01:53:40
That was allocated for illegal dumping. 01:53:41
We build that on a quarterly basis and so that was our first billing. 01:53:43
For the quarter and for the April through June quarter, so the remainder of that which I believe was the. 01:53:47
Actual number. 01:53:54
And yes, so that's true left. 01:53:56
OK62K. 01:54:01
It would it be fair to say that? 01:54:06
Is that a quarterly estimate, you know average? 01:54:09
That's every six months, every six. But it has gone down. I'm, I'm not. 01:54:12
The previous 72 so it's gone down 10,000. 01:54:16
And and they are getting lower and lower and this is also something that. 01:54:19
The Treasurer and I have been discussing. 01:54:24
With delinquent accounts and past delinquent accounts and we have a lot of. 01:54:27
I think there was. 01:54:33
Connor, as we have cleaned up transition. 01:54:34
And lots of transition. This is 1 also that was transitioned that we're trying to clean up between the county being responsible 01:54:37
for it. 01:54:40
And turning it over to UWS. So we're trying to transition out with some of these long standing. 01:54:44
Delinquent accounts where folks don't live there no more, they died. And so we're also looking at that with the treasurer to try 01:54:49
to claim some of this up. 01:54:52
So you're suggesting that 62 could be less as we clean it up? 01:54:56
But but but I'm glad you brought up the point. 01:55:00
225,000. 01:55:02
Additional. 01:55:04
We we voted on that. 01:55:05
Last year we approved. 01:55:07
And that was to. 01:55:09
Try to. 01:55:11
Recover some additional expenses that you didn't put in your contract for this illegal dump. 01:55:15
The illegal dumping. 01:55:21
Seems overwhelming which is not included in the contract. 01:55:23
And we just could not drive by there neglected. We had to go back to pick it up. Yeah. 01:55:26
And so that's what we talked about. 01:55:30
So that's correct, it's for. That's for illegal dumping. 01:55:32
All right. 01:55:37
So do you anticipate? 01:55:42
A request for next year for I. 01:55:43
At this growth, it's going 40%. 01:55:45
Just encouraging bad behavior. We need to start with enforcement. 01:55:48
There's enforcement everywhere. You have to have an enforcement leg. 01:55:51
To make anything worse. 01:55:55
We're enablers. 01:55:58
Yeah. 01:55:59
And if I may, Mr. 01:56:01
Yes, yes, Sir. 01:56:05
Mr. Chef, Sure. 01:56:06
I'm not enablers, I think in so much of the. 01:56:08
We need to be providing a solution. I get it. We got one landfill here. 01:56:12
And many months ago. 01:56:17
I don't know how long this was. 01:56:19
Brought to the chambers which need an option. Give them another option. 01:56:21
A roll off of these sites. 01:56:26
The curb, what you're having to do. 01:56:29
It's not going in the compactor because that's the illegal dumping part we're talking about, right? 01:56:32
Yes, Sir. 01:56:37
Jabs County dramatically cut down on the dumping. 01:56:41
We weren't finding toilets in the ditch. 01:56:44
We weren't finding it next to the compact. 01:56:48
Folks had an option, so yeah, I agree. 01:56:52
Enforcement is huge. 01:56:54
But you can't. 01:56:57
You can't determine when unless you sit on a 24/7. These people, some of them that are doing this. 01:57:00
Must be pretty sneaky. 01:57:05
They're doing it late at night. 01:57:08
You know, umm. 01:57:10
So enforcement is important, but also got to give them another option. 01:57:11
If you're saying you're an extra 40 something, I forget the numbers. 01:57:15
That's the word. There's a portorola. 01:57:19
Yeah. So what we do is we do have regularly scheduled. 01:57:22
Cleanups in different areas. 01:57:26
The one one month we may be here next month, here next month. 01:57:28
It's all advertised in our mailings. 01:57:32
The and they normally fill up a pill quick. 01:57:35
So people are utilizing, do we increase them? 01:57:38
You know, just things we can do for. 01:57:40
I would like. 01:57:43
I would I would like to suggest that. 01:57:44
Perhaps. 01:57:49
We we, we put the roll off down there and see what happens. 01:57:51
You'll get full pretty quick. 01:57:56
You have to maintain it. 01:58:00
So my experience. 01:58:03
We do wet log many counties. 01:58:05
And the great. 01:58:08
Your system was probably one of the best. 01:58:09
With the compactors. 01:58:11
Now they have monitors on them. We very rarely see any. 01:58:13
Compactor over full with household waste. 01:58:16
There's probably toilets and bathtubs and barns. 01:58:19
Well, we're not there and. 01:58:22
But if you have to get an open talk. 01:58:24
I the height the pigeon height is over 5 foot. 01:58:27
And to me that a lot of that stuff can't go in there. 01:58:31
And that welcome to say, hey, this is now an illegal dumping site. 01:58:34
And I just. 01:58:38
See more problems with free. 01:58:39
Have another areas? 01:58:41
And compared to other areas, we have manned convenience centers. 01:58:43
It in Grant County we've got 3 or 4 different man convenience centers. 01:58:47
People are breaking into every night this is. 01:58:52
Down in Sanibel County Canyon. 01:58:55
People break in, they throw stuff in the front. 01:58:58
They they're not willing to pay we. 01:59:00
With like $5 we charge some people $5. 01:59:02
And. 01:59:06
And they won't even pay that. 01:59:07
It's just it's a hard 1 and I and I. 01:59:09
Thank you for taking read on this for all of you and. 01:59:12
Trying to figure this out and I. 01:59:15
Really think we need a. 01:59:17
Have a workshop. 01:59:18
Where we have time. 01:59:20
And sit down and talk about the problems. 01:59:21
Talk about the money stuck It's it's a big. 01:59:24
Comprehensive program that we put together. 01:59:26
We all jumped into this. 01:59:29
The and with the old. 01:59:31
The system you have, we had to start somewhere. 01:59:33
In a slot, there's no what it is. 01:59:36
How much better can we get? 01:59:37
Sky's the limit, but everything cost. 01:59:39
So and then public education. 01:59:42
Enforcement. 01:59:45
There's just so many things to talk about. 01:59:46
Right now on the way I we cleaned up. 01:59:48
Uh, Loma Gandhi yesterday. 01:59:52
I went through all the sites yesterday and I. 01:59:55
And I went past by us 15 minutes later I had to send a truck. 01:59:58
To clean it up again. 02:00:02
15 minutes later there was a mattress. This morning I didn't get the mattress, but. 02:00:03
There was a. 02:00:08
The trailer that the two horse trailer. 02:00:10
Goose neck. 02:00:12
There was pulling out. 02:00:14
Just left a mess right now on the ground. 02:00:16
So cameras, we've had cameras everywhere. People shoot them out, they break them. 02:00:18
The I don't know where we're going to go, but it's a lot better today. 02:00:23
It's manageable. It's ugly for a day. 02:00:27
Somebody's going to come by and. 02:00:30
Drop something off. 02:00:31
With our flow Marines, the second rings we. 02:00:32
Put on schedule for the next day. 02:00:35
I'm already anticipating another truck driver. Another truck. 02:00:37
I ordered the new grapple proper next year. 02:00:41
Just to keep up with the demand. 02:00:44
So I think that not. 02:00:46
I'm really excited. 02:00:48
I think, Mr. Chairman, you told me. 02:00:50
Last last meeting. Don't like surprises. 02:00:53
I don't like the prices either. 02:00:55
So I think we. 02:00:57
Prepare for next year. 02:00:58
Let's sit down and talk and come up with a plan. 02:01:01
Mr. Chairman. 02:01:05
This has been, this has been something we talked about and and I do think we have several options that we probably need to. 02:01:07
Get together with them on. I don't know if we have any other slides you'd like them to go through. 02:01:13
Or if we just like to. 02:01:21
A little more. 02:01:23
Well, the the the other. 02:01:25
The other thing I wanted to talk about? 02:01:27
And we'll just it's we'll introduce the subject. 02:01:31
Because we don't have enough data. 02:01:34
We are. We are one third owners. 02:01:37
Of the. 02:01:39
As I understand it. 02:01:40
Of the landfill down in orography. 02:01:42
And yet you guys. 02:01:47
You guys have to pay a tipping fee. 02:01:48
That's correct. 02:01:51
So and that's. 02:01:54
Probably correct. I mean you have to. 02:01:55
You have to maintain. 02:01:58
A landfill, it takes a lot of money. 02:02:00
Outside of anything else that you guys are doing? 02:02:04
That's a separate entity. 02:02:06
The question that I have is. 02:02:09
Where's the money? 02:02:13
What is the contract? 02:02:15
How much? 02:02:17
Do we do we get benefit other than just having access? 02:02:18
There's, there's, there's a money. 02:02:24
There's a money management issue. 02:02:26
That is very unclear. 02:02:29
Totally unclear to me and I challenge anybody. 02:02:31
Explain it. 02:02:33
So. So you've got. 02:02:36
You've got Ruidoso, the village I think is part ownership of that. 02:02:38
Right, we've got we've got green tree that's. 02:02:42
Involve engaged in that. 02:02:45
So, so there's a lot of money changing hands. 02:02:48
We're paying. 02:02:52
The county is paying. 02:02:53
I don't even know. 02:02:56
$400,000 a year in addition to what? 02:02:58
What that's happening? 02:03:01
To do the work I might. This is not. 02:03:03
Focus laser on UWS. 02:03:05
Being a bad guy. 02:03:08
It costs money. 02:03:09
But I would like to know. 02:03:10
Where that money's going? 02:03:12
Down there at the at the at the landfill. 02:03:14
And how that's working out for the benefit of the county. 02:03:19
So that's an introduction of a subject for another day. 02:03:24
But but we'll need to. 02:03:28
To get engaged in that and understand that process. So you guys get. 02:03:29
You know. 02:03:33
A deal because you're serving Lincoln County? I bet you're not. 02:03:34
Now we actually. 02:03:38
They don't like first people there to be honest with you. You make questionnaires, 87 will go in there. 02:03:40
And it truly hadn't been much of A battle. 02:03:46
Recently, but when we first started, they challenged everything that went in there and wanted to see. 02:03:49
You know, we just. 02:03:54
Yeah. So it's an issue, it's a, it's a sleeping issue out there. 02:03:56
That could be costing this county. 02:04:01
Hell of a lot of money. 02:04:04
Either in. 02:04:06
Lost receipts because we're getting up and back on it in terms of. 02:04:07
Ownership of that property. 02:04:10
Or maybe. 02:04:12
Maybe it's it's a it's a net 0. 02:04:13
We're just paying to maintain it. I don't know. 02:04:16
But I want to know. 02:04:19
So. 02:04:21
I'm not focused on you, it's more. 02:04:22
Manage your burn responsibility to help. 02:04:25
Clarify that issue. 02:04:29
And we'll stay engaged, too. 02:04:31
But. 02:04:32
That that's really what I wanted to talk about. 02:04:34
Anybody else? 02:04:38
You know, some of the richest people in the world are. 02:04:43
Our garbage collective. 02:04:46
No, I think everyone has a way. 02:04:49
It never goes away. We always have customers. 02:04:51
And it stinks, so nobody wants to do it. 02:04:55
So that's not cabbage. You have something. 02:04:59
Well, they have. They're going to have a meeting over there at Green Tree on the. 02:05:02
On the 18th and I'm part of the board over there, so. 02:05:06
I'll get some more information and find out. 02:05:09
Some stuff. 02:05:12
Report next time. 02:05:13
Yeah, and I'd like our. 02:05:14
County lawyer to acquaint herself with whatever agreements. 02:05:16
Past, present and future that are involved in that. 02:05:21
What what rights and you know, privileges that we have is this quote UN quote. 02:05:23
Co-owner. 02:05:29
Whatever the heck that means. 02:05:31
You know. 02:05:33
Anything else? 02:05:35
I'll tell you what. 02:05:39
I see. 02:05:41
Piles and piles and pot. I mean it's. 02:05:41
Freaking believable. 02:05:44
How much stuff ends up down there, Tinny? 02:05:46
You guys, you guys cleaned up pretty quick. 02:05:48
Thank you. So we appreciate that very much. And I think. 02:05:51
That's that's the old adage, you know, if you. 02:05:54
Keep it looking like crap. It gets worse if you. 02:05:57
Try to clean it up at least it either stays at a stasis level. 02:05:59
Maybe it improves? 02:06:03
So, yeah, Mr. Chairman. 02:06:04
If you guys do have something to. 02:06:06
We don't catch or you know, they can dump it any particular time. 02:06:08
Just ringing or I call or the office will respond within 24 hours. 02:06:12
That's what we're doing. 02:06:16
One final note. 02:06:18
Like your air curtain? Very much. 02:06:19
There's a there's an initiative that's kind of being led by the. 02:06:21
Village. 02:06:25
And they're trying to put together a biomass. 02:06:26
Facility. 02:06:30
Converting green waste. 02:06:31
To, well, biodiesel. 02:06:33
And whatever. 02:06:35
Keep your eyes and ears open on that. That might be another. 02:06:38
Place you could move stuff. 02:06:41
And, you know, maybe not. 02:06:45
You saying that? 02:06:50
I'd like to invite all of you to our. 02:06:52
Silly you just. 02:06:54
Totally redid it. 02:06:55
We were on I think 22 acres and I think there was only 7 usable. 02:06:56
Now it's probably 16 or 17 usable acres up there. 02:07:01
So we're moving things around and. 02:07:05
Going to relocate the burner. 02:07:07
And we have been getting in the burner. I think we've done right about 5000 cubic yards today. 02:07:09
You're going to go up to 10 on here. 02:07:14
We're asking to go to 22 hours a day. 02:07:17
We'll never use it. 02:07:20
Instead of stockpiling it and burning 7 days. 02:07:22
Makes a lot more sense than. 02:07:25
Worth 12 hours a day and knock it out in three days. 02:07:26
Because it's just. That's just the hard message to. 02:07:29
Deliver with. 02:07:32
That's we do have a permit hearing coming up. 02:07:34
The next 2-3 weeks I think. 02:07:37
Listeners. 02:07:42
Any other questions? 02:07:43
3 UWS. 02:07:44
On your air curtain incinerator, did you guys get permission to get another one up to? 02:07:47
We never asked for permission for a second one. 02:07:52
Did I remember you had a? 02:07:56
I think in Ruidoso Downs. 02:07:58
Trying to promote. 02:08:00
Well, that was for extending the hours on the existing line. 02:08:02
Then how did that workout for you? 02:08:06
It looks favorable. 02:08:07
Followed This final decision hasn't been made. 02:08:10
Worst case scenario, we do. We're doing we burn seven days a week. 02:08:13
It's really clean. 02:08:21
Well, I took your suggestion. I think we're moving down to the bottom where the pressure. 02:08:23
I think people. 02:08:28
When you start it up as a little puff of smoke. 02:08:31
It's a little, it's not. It's honestly burns almost odorless and it's clear you can't see it. No, I know, but. 02:08:34
Yeah. Well, yeah, it does. 02:08:42
Hell, I make more smoke when I burn piles of my. 02:08:45
Aaron knows that. 02:08:50
Right, OK. 02:08:51
If that's it, we thank you very much. 02:08:53
OK, Pvt. 02:09:05
Mitch. 02:09:07
Thank you. Sorry you had to wait so long. That's OK, this is enjoyable. 02:09:08
How how so? Well you you've got a lot of good things going on in the county. This county had a rough go with the last year so so. 02:09:12
I just I like, I'd like to hear the. 02:09:21
Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Commissioners. My name is Mitch Hibbert. I'm the Chief operating Officer for Finney Esper Valley 02:09:22
Telephone Cooperative. 02:09:25
We've got on the map here, just you can kind of see where we serve. 02:09:29
We're in the southeast part of the town who serve about 25% of the county. 02:09:32
In that area we are a rural cooperative, so we are owned by the members we serve. 02:09:37
Marks an owner. 02:09:42
Of the cooperative and and I think there's some others here as well. 02:09:44
But. 02:09:47
We also serve outside of our boundary. 02:09:48
But we have to make a. 02:09:52
Financial case to the members of the cooperative, anytime we do that so. 02:09:53
You'll hear we serve the city of Artesia. 02:09:58
Little Carlsbad. A little bit Plow. Croft. Hagerman, Dexter. 02:10:01
Those are cases where we've made a financial case to go. 02:10:05
And benefit the cooperative. 02:10:08
We are the carrier of last resort. 02:10:11
So we have an obligation to serve those shaded areas and then as you can see those are. 02:10:13
Those are some pretty tough areas to serve. 02:10:18
We have about 500 active customers. 02:10:22
In the rural area and and Lincoln County. 02:10:24
Just kind of a recent development and we joined Jason and Mark at a. 02:10:29
A ribbon cutting. 02:10:34
We were. We were awarded a grant match. 02:10:37
Award from the Office of Broadband Access and Expansion. 02:10:40
During the fires in 2024. 02:10:45
The village of Capitan became an island, the fiber that fed it from another provider. 02:10:47
Was it it? 02:10:54
It was damaged and for a few days. 02:10:56
Captain had no cellular backhaul. 02:10:58
They had No 911. 02:11:00
The Office of Broadband put together some funding that they had. 02:11:02
And made a program to. 02:11:05
Try to address some of the areas that were declared disasters throughout the state over the last couple of years. We we made an 02:11:09
application to extend our fiber which. 02:11:13
Serves Lincoln. 02:11:18
Turns off and goes down Salazar. 02:11:19
To extend that to Capitan. 02:11:21
To provide a redundant fiber route. So should something happen to the fiber feeding Capitan from this direction, we can carry that 02:11:24
traffic and keep it connected. 02:11:28
If something happens to us down by Lincoln. 02:11:33
We can, we can shift it over to Windstream fiber and and and carry that. 02:11:36
That that traffic requires that way. 02:11:41
We were asked by the BLM to also go to Fort Stanton. 02:11:44
It doesn't have fiber, it has very limited. 02:11:47
Telecommunication service services. 02:11:51
So we need to be able to permit to do all that anyways. 02:11:54
So we were glad to accommodate that and add that to to the funding. 02:11:57
We did get $1,000,000. We've asked for the whole amount. 02:12:01
The one and a quarter million they wanted to make a second award to TBS to read to rebuild in a in a subdivision that was damaged 02:12:05
by the fire, also in Lincoln County. 02:12:10
So they offered us a million. We have a cash match. 02:12:16
We have an in kind match that we could use. So we have about a $400,000 cash match. 02:12:19
We are. 02:12:25
Because of the type of funding it is, we do have to serve the locations along the way. This is just not a middle mile project. We 02:12:26
are required to serve who whoever we pass with. 02:12:31
Fiber. 02:12:36
So glad to do it, Glad, glad, glad for the opportunity, he told me. I had a limited amount of time. So my dancing, my slides. 02:12:37
That's OK. 02:12:46
But this was a resolve. 02:12:48
This, that award was based on a resolution that you all provided last year. So I wanted to come and give an update and say thank 02:12:50
you, it worked. 02:12:53
We got the funding. 02:12:57
Captain has got to be in better shape. 02:12:58
This map just shows. 02:13:01
Let me start. We're in the midst of some generational funding opportunities for broadband. 02:13:05
We've all realized the importance on that and how much we depend on that. 02:13:10
And this is basically the Rea act for broadband. 02:13:14
And so we've, we've chose to deploy fiber during this. 02:13:20
Everything is fiber fueled. 02:13:25
Even star length is fiber fueled. It hits a ground station that is fiber fed. 02:13:28
That's how. That's how it connects to the Internet. 02:13:32
All of your wireless. 02:13:35
Whether it's for Internet or voice. 02:13:37
That all hits. 02:13:39
And fiber if you make a call here. 02:13:40
It's going to go to the nearest tower. Hit fiber. 02:13:43
Go to wherever the call is on fiber across the country. 02:13:45
Find the nearest tower and get to that person SO. 02:13:49
Fiber is the key. 02:13:52
Is the key component. It is also the most resilient. It's the most future proof. 02:13:53
It has enough scalability because we've all seen those speeds just. 02:13:58
Ramp up and so. 02:14:03
We feel that fiber is the best option the closer you are to the fiber. 02:14:05
The better off your service is going to be. 02:14:10
We can take it right to your home or business. 02:14:13
That's the best case that you that you can be. 02:14:15
Fiber also is the only thing that raises your property value. 02:14:18
It's 3 1/2 to 7% if you have a fiber connectivity. 02:14:21
In some cases it's 12%. 02:14:25
But we've been very aggressive. 02:14:28
Going after the funding that's been made available. 02:14:30
And you can see that by the array of colors up there. 02:14:32
Each one of those represents a different funding. 02:14:36
Program the Green is currently under construction throughout the Honda Valley and in the Arabella area. There's parameters each 02:14:38
one. 02:14:43
Each one of these funding. 02:14:47
Opportunities. 02:14:49
That you have to fit. 02:14:50
You know the locations can't get this or they can get this or they. 02:14:52
You know, they fall into a persistent poverty county like Chavez or, or, or something. So we're always watching that. 02:14:56
Trying to piece nail that together to get everybody covered. 02:15:02
So we. 02:15:07
The funding that we have acquired. 02:15:09
Not counting the yellow dots. 02:15:11
That's about 900 homes. 02:15:13
In Lincoln County. 02:15:15
So those are those are all going to get fed with fiber. 02:15:18
Now there is no free money. 02:15:21
Everything has had at least a match component of 25%. 02:15:23
And some of the largest awards we got were just low interest loans. 02:15:28
So that's how we built it. 02:15:32
That's that's how we built the copper network. That's how we're going to build the fiber network. Some of it is just going to be 02:15:34
with loans. 02:15:37
That we will need to service. 02:15:40
And those are through the. 02:15:42
For the USDA. 02:15:43
One of the things we're kind of excited about if you see those yellow dots. 02:15:46
Both on the other side of Capitan. 02:15:51
And then down in the southern southern part of the county there. 02:15:53
Those are. 02:15:57
Those are those are from the the Infrastructure JOBS Act. 02:15:58
You may have been following the whole bead saga, and we have. 02:16:02
You know, we have the first round, we put it in an application. Those all got. 02:16:07
Set aside. Throw away. 02:16:11
We put in another application for the benefit and bargain round. 02:16:13
And we were given a state. 02:16:18
Provisional award The state has made the award the Office of Broadband has. 02:16:20
They've shifted those to the NTIA at the federal level. 02:16:23
And they are waiting to be. 02:16:27
Stay up there, there's another round. 02:16:29
That we're not going to have to go through because our cost per location didn't. 02:16:31
Didn't make a story there, but now there's the. 02:16:35
And this just sounds like the current administration. 02:16:38
There's the best and final offer around. 02:16:41
But we we don't have to go through that. That's for the ones that are above a certain threshold and. 02:16:44
We think we're going to get this award. 02:16:50
And that's 944 homes in Lincoln County that are currently. 02:16:52
Unserved or underserved? 02:16:56
It is a 7525%. 02:16:59
Matching program so. 02:17:01
Basically, we have a significant match to reach that. 02:17:04
But we'll have four years to build that. 02:17:08
One of the things that. 02:17:11
We're able to do. I've visited with these gentlemen. 02:17:15
Last week is with the type of equipment we're using, which is pallets. 02:17:18
We are. We are also providing the modem and router at. 02:17:26
At the home and this is a carrier grade router. It's a, it's a very good router. 02:17:29
One, because we want the customers experience to be very, very good. 02:17:35
And so we want to provide that router. 02:17:38
And and. 02:17:40
That every router has multiple channels and you can also prioritize the search service. 02:17:42
So like. 02:17:49
Like like in my case, I can I can prioritize me. 02:17:50
Over. 02:17:53
Over my teenage daughters. 02:17:54
So I get I get the service 1st and I get all. All I want is they they can use. 02:17:56
With these routers, we have the ability to do something else with them. 02:18:02
We can we can have a channel specifically for first responders. 02:18:06
That we can do this. 02:18:12
With our own access points, which which we're going to be regardless. 02:18:13
So any anywhere that PDT has one of their electronic sites. 02:18:17
We're going to have an access point there where our first responder. 02:18:21
Can get online. 02:18:24
And and and use his Wi-Fi calling. 02:18:25
You know, and I think that's important in communities such as Lincoln. 02:18:29
You know, the areas where there isn't good cell service in Arabella? 02:18:33
You know, there's there's a, there's a large. 02:18:38
Large dead spot, but we're going to do this in the in the communities. We're currently investigating whether we want to do that. 02:18:40
At the individuals homes, give them an option to opt out if they don't, if they don't want it. 02:18:46
But to where? A first responder that responds to a call in a rural area? 02:18:51
He can just get online. 02:18:56
Through that router? Through a separate channel on that router. 02:18:58
The customer service is always prioritized. 02:19:01
So if there's nothing left, you can't get on. 02:19:04
But if, if, if, if there is some extra bandwidth there and fiber will kind of provide that. 02:19:07
Then that first responder can get online. 02:19:12
Make a Wi-Fi call, get on the Internet, whatever he needs to do. 02:19:15
And so we're kind of excited about that. We're kind of. 02:19:17
Cautiously talking about that, that's not a done deal to do the home routers. 02:19:21
The access points in the communities are. 02:19:26
And one thing we will do with those access points too, and we kind of provided this in the old Lincoln days. 02:19:29
Is if you have an event or something in your community. 02:19:34
We'll go ahead and turn those X minus points on for all visitors. 02:19:37
And and so. 02:19:40
The vendors really like that. At the old Lincoln days, they had some connectivity to run some credit cards and things like that, 02:19:42
and there's no cell service. 02:19:45
We have other areas and in the areas we serve Pinon we Sacramento. 02:19:49
Some of those areas don't have. 02:19:56
Any self-service either so we think this will be a great benefit. 02:19:58
You know if you have. 02:20:02
I know we're down where I live in. 02:20:03
There's a funeral, there's 150 people show up and we. 02:20:06
You don't know where. 02:20:08
As soon as he is and she didn't make it and there's no way to get out to check on her. But if you have that access point. 02:20:10
You can get on my phone. 02:20:15
And go ahead and check. 02:20:18
So we. 02:20:20
We're kind of excited about that. 02:20:22
To provide that to the communities. We're excited about all the fiber work we're building out and I'll stand for any questions. 02:20:24
So. 02:20:36
We did lose. We lost. 02:20:39
You lost the Internet. We lost. 02:20:41
You know, dispatch. 02:20:44
Some. I mean, you know, I've been, it does so right. 02:20:46
And I guess Rio de So lost their Internet and cell phone service and so forth. So in my mind. 02:20:49
I don't care about. 02:20:57
All that other stuff about games and stuff. 02:20:58
You know, you know, I don't care about that crap. 02:21:00
But to have that redundancy is absolutely critical and the way I see it. 02:21:04
And this is kind of a question, although not posed as such. 02:21:09
Is that? 02:21:13
We could have the same kind of damage that we had. 02:21:14
The last set of Flyers. 02:21:17
I think that was TDs, right lost their their line up there on the missile Arrow or as it was coming out. 02:21:20
And and and. One could imagine with this redundancy that. 02:21:27
The village and the Downs would still could still have. 02:21:31
Internet because it's coming up through Capitan. 02:21:34
From the. 02:21:36
The Northside. 02:21:37
Right, Right. That's true, right? 02:21:38
Right. And and when the fire happened? 02:21:40
Doctor Anjadi. 02:21:43
He showed tremendously leadership. 02:21:45
He worked well with our CEO. They're good, they're good friends and they. 02:21:48
It brought together this Eva team, the Emergency Broadband Operations tool, which the state is now adopted and taken over. 02:21:52
And. 02:22:00
Through those meetings and I was on those, those early meetings. 02:22:02
The coordination between all the companies coming together at a regularly scheduled, sometimes twice a day meeting. 02:22:06
To see who had 144 five or who could get this here, who could bring this here? 02:22:12
Who had this this kind of electronics? 02:22:16
Pete yes, they lost their whole electronics building in in the fire and. 02:22:19
The restoration was. 02:22:25
Was quick. It also taught us a little lesson about Starlight. They brought in these cows, the cell towers on wheels. 02:22:27
And they're running four of them. Everybody says no, we need more. And they said you don't understand. 02:22:32
Starling is limited on what it can do. 02:22:37
I mean, I mean the best advice on Starling, I'm glad Starlink is out there. I think it's for our customers that have DSL. 02:22:40
That needed something more. 02:22:46
That was available until we did the file was done. 02:22:48
But. 02:22:50
The best advice if you like Starlight and you have it. 02:22:51
Don't tell your neighbor because when he gets it, yours gets worse. 02:22:55
And that was the issue with those cell towers on wheels. They just can bring in a. 02:22:58
So Godfrey had a plan. 02:23:02
And brought all the people together to do a ring around the mountain. 02:23:04
Is what he calls it. 02:23:07
That's the link. 02:23:09
That will complete this ring around the mountain, because when you have fiber redundancy like you're talking about and you get a 02:23:10
cut here, it's OK. 02:23:13
Stuff that was going this way, we can we can make go this way. 02:23:16
And and it just helps and we all work together. We all try to tie. 02:23:20
Our fiber networks together because of. 02:23:24
We have a customer that has a need. 02:23:26
In Los Angeles. 02:23:28
We want to meet that need, but we're only this part of it. Windstream department. 02:23:30
Centurylink's apart. 02:23:34
Did yes is a part so I want to make sure. Just to wrap this up. 02:23:35
Mitch, I want to make sure that. 02:23:40
Oh yeah, the Office Emergency Services has has a. 02:23:42
A very detailed. 02:23:46
Diagram. 02:23:48
Of where this service is. 02:23:49
Where those as it's built out where those access points are? 02:23:52
And it it it's. 02:23:57
It's our desire. 02:23:59
To be able to understand that. 02:24:01
So that. 02:24:03
When we have the next series of disasters. 02:24:03
That we can either anticipate where we need to go in terms of. 02:24:07
Communication. 02:24:11
Right. And et cetera and Fort Stanton just? 02:24:12
Just by the way. 02:24:15
It really isn't like a tertiary. 02:24:17
Emergency Operations center. 02:24:20
And so to have that fiber up there is very important too. 02:24:22
So we appreciate that. 02:24:25
There's no financial case to build a Fort Stanton. That's why nobody's done it. They took it, took funding. I mean, there's going 02:24:27
to be 3 customers. 02:24:31
And it's a lot of infrastructure to build for three customers. 02:24:34
But. 02:24:37
And we want to do it and we want to make sure that it's safe. And like I said, it is a. 02:24:38
It is a secondary and we want to make sure that. 02:24:42
The cell towers I guess not all cell towers. 02:24:45
Are fed by fiber. There's some more, some more. 02:24:48
So we'd like to know what? 02:24:51
Which ones aren't? 02:24:52
So that we can. 02:24:54
We can apply some pressure. 02:24:55
To get those served so that. 02:24:57
And also, you know, the backup power piece too, which we've. 02:25:00
Talked about the past. Fiber needs power. 02:25:03
And these pack up powers. 02:25:06
So we want to understand and comprehend that piece as well. 02:25:08
Because we will lose electrical power, some of those fed by PNM could have. 02:25:12
Public service safety. 02:25:16
Set up thing or just just? 02:25:18
We lose it. 02:25:21
So we still want our fiber. 02:25:22
I agree. So how do we do that? 02:25:24
How do you, how do we get that information? How do we share that? 02:25:27
Detailed information that's actionable. 02:25:31
For. 02:25:34
You know, the state does have the. So Jeffrey Lopez is the new director. 02:25:36
And and and he would probably. 02:25:41
Get that? I mean we can, we can provide our specific data. 02:25:44
But you're going to piece meal it together with that with everyone. 02:25:48
I I would, I would ask. 02:25:51
Yvonne I I would ask Director Lopez. 02:25:54
About. 02:25:58
Exact same as you were just asking about, right? 02:26:01
Guys writing this down. 02:26:03
I've been in contact with you. 02:26:04
When we started the PSPS. 02:26:06
Is when him and I started having conversations. 02:26:08
Perfect. So we'll want a presentation for me at some point? 02:26:11
Talks about that. 02:26:15
That's excellent. 02:26:16
OK. And I do want to thank you. I can just say Jason Burns and I work together down in Addy County and. 02:26:17
The utility coordination efforts down there were like no other county. 02:26:24
And we got a lot done. 02:26:28
And we had a lot of coordination and so this is a good move. 02:26:30
You don't know me on shopping. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. 02:26:35
All right. 02:26:41
Uploads. 02:26:44
Eternally. 02:26:46
Good morning. Morning. 02:26:59
So my name is Sarah Chapman. I'm the Executive director of Hope Counseling. 02:27:01
In July of last two. 02:27:08
Haven't been in a while, so just to give you guys some updates, we finished our first um. 02:27:11
Fiscal year since was our budget. 02:27:17
There were about 10,000 under our budget. 02:27:19
We've faced tracking challenges, as many others have. 02:27:22
I've seen out of service for a little while due to fires and floods but I was pretty happy with. 02:27:27
I've seen pretty close to budget, just being slightly under, which was my goal to stay under it. 02:27:32
So we are moving into fiscal year 2 now of the budget. 02:27:37
And so recent accomplishments, we've established a lot of valuable partnerships with organizations across the county. 02:27:41
And including the Department of Health. 02:27:48
Renewal Health Captain Behavioral Health. Harmony Rd. Recovery. 02:27:50
And Harmony Rd. Recovery is the facility. 02:27:54
Of El Paso that offers PHP which is partial hospitalization. 02:27:57
An IOP services two things we do not have yet here in Lincoln County. So we were able to get that off. It's been kind of a slow 02:28:02
start. We need referrals for those. 02:28:06
But it's it's. 02:28:11
Super important for us to have those because the next level of care would be inpatient treatment. 02:28:13
I'm sure you guys are well aware we don't have inpatient treatment here. 02:28:19
The closest one is Roswell. Mostly they go to Las Cruces, so having just the stuff under that. 02:28:24
Here in Lincoln County, available is amazing. 02:28:29
And we've done, we do weekly Narcan trainings to the public. 02:28:33
So we've been able to train 311 individuals. 02:28:37
Different motels in Red Oso have asked us to come in and train our entire staff. 02:28:41
We've gotten to work with Volunteer Fire Department. 02:28:46
Departments, the Rigdo sit downs court staff and employees. 02:28:48
And we've had two reported cases where participants in our class. 02:28:51
And we're able to stabilize by administering Narcan. 02:28:56
So that's wonderful. 02:28:59
So current engagements as Warren Castleton mentioned. 02:29:02
We have a meeting tomorrow. 02:29:06
We're actually when you were asking about the hospital taking part in that collaboration as of yes, they're not involved in that 02:29:07
collaboration. 02:29:11
Will actually be working with Trent Carter from the New Health who is actually here. 02:29:15
They do medical assisted treatment but they can do it Tele. 02:29:21
Their offices are located in, they have one in Roswell and Alamogordo, but they are, we were able to get them approved through 02:29:25
indigent care through the county as well. 02:29:29
So that's kind of where our groundwork is, is just kind of figuring out the logistics and how it's going to work with the new 02:29:33
staff. 02:29:36
As well as the. 02:29:40
The new nursing faster as well as the staff and the detention center and how we can help. 02:29:43
I'm so Mr. Carter, myself and Warden Castleton will be meeting in the morning and hopefully we'll finally be able to get that off. 02:29:47
Off the ground. 02:29:55
Can we talk about that? We know. 02:29:56
We know that. 02:30:00
A high percentage. I don't have figures, facts and figures, but. 02:30:02
A high percentage of the incarcerated. 02:30:06
Frustrated. 02:30:08
Folks are. 02:30:10
Drug involved? 02:30:13
If not addicted. 02:30:14
Right, so. 02:30:15
So what do you? 02:30:17
How are we gonna? 02:30:18
Address that. 02:30:19
Inside the facility. 02:30:22
And that's where the medical assisted treatment comes in, if we're able to get them on medical assisted treatment, which. 02:30:24
More than likely will involve Suboxone. 02:30:31
Which is solar control assessments that there are non narcotic options and Mr. Carter offers those options that's one of the ones 02:30:34
reasons we. 02:30:38
We'd like to partner with Radio Health. 02:30:43
But I think capturing, I mean our captive audience inside the detention center, right? 02:30:45
So that's where we need to be. We need to be in there with them. We need to talk to them, we need to get them in counseling, we 02:30:49
need to get them on medical assisted treatment. 02:30:53
So when they come in, those services are already set up. 02:30:57
And they just, it's a very easy. 02:31:01
Transition and a warm handoff. They've already seen our faces. They know what to do and how to do it. 02:31:04
So that's our goal and. 02:31:09
As far as addressing that addiction, as Warden mentioned, we're doing, they're doing a training, I believe that booking. 02:31:12
Asking about opioid specific addiction. 02:31:19
I would suspect they're getting skewed results because somebody coming into bookings probably either. 02:31:23
Hi, we're not going to be honest. 02:31:28
So I think once we get in there and we're able to evaluate it. 02:31:30
Personally, one-on-one with him. We'll get some better. What's prevented you from doing this? 02:31:34
Before. 02:31:38
A lot it would seems to me that. 02:31:40
I mean. 02:31:42
You know, I'm action oriented. I want things to happen. 02:31:43
We're now a year into this. 02:31:47
I'm concerned that. 02:31:49
We're not being successful. 02:31:52
And I don't want to throw the warden under the bus. I wish he was still here, but his staffing issues have been our biggest 02:31:54
barrier. The RISE program than losing that funding because that's who we were originally partnering with, was the RISE staff. 02:32:00
It was employed in the detention center. 02:32:07
So they're gone. 02:32:08
Change in staffing, we've been ready to go. 02:32:10
Almost since day one because this was part of our. 02:32:13
When we responded to the grant, this was part of our project, so we already had our groundwork done. 02:32:17
It's just a lot of moving pieces and I think a detention center and issue staffing, specifically issues that they've struggled 02:32:22
with, has been our biggest barrier. 02:32:26
What else do you have? So we got a lot of community initiatives. 02:32:35
Just to get resources across the county, we did a sobriety event. Ordo Sedan was this weekend we had 100 and. 02:32:40
Despite the rain. 02:32:46
We had 142 people show up to that event. 02:32:47
So. 02:32:51
Sobriety of event that's. 02:32:53
Going to church. 02:32:55
What are you guys doing? 02:32:58
Drinking when I'm at church. 02:33:01
Society specific, they offer a lot of, you know, like the lines and the vines and and. 02:33:06
Events in Rido so that cater towards tourism that they involve drugs and alcohol. 02:33:12
For people in sobriety, those aren't options. 02:33:16
So we provide sober. 02:33:18
Options for them where they don't have to worry about vendors from. 02:33:20
Breweries or the wine? 02:33:23
The winery or dispensaries for that matter. 02:33:24
Being here in a family friendly, completely free to them. 02:33:27
So it just offers some kind of a safe place where they don't have to possibly encounter triggers while they're there. 02:33:31
So we're in a preliminary stages of developing an OUD and. 02:33:39
SGD, so opioid use disorder and substance use disorder curriculum. 02:33:43
And for the school, if you'd like to step into the schools, the public schools here in Lincoln County and then begin 02:33:48
implementation of. 02:33:51
Educational. Don't they have dare and stuff? 02:33:55
They don't actually hear. 02:33:58
Other counties, Otero County has a very successful their program, but we do not have one here. 02:34:00
If if the Sheriff's Department would ever. 02:34:04
Sorry, the office, whatever decide they wanted to partner with us, that would be incredible. 02:34:09
We we don't currently have anything. I know Capitan Schools actually brought in a company from Illinois. 02:34:14
Paid him $10,000 to do some. 02:34:20
Some educational stuff there. So so you're going to you're going to provide a program that. 02:34:22
Somehow. 02:34:27
Duplicates or helps or something like that? I don't want to duplicate but. 02:34:28
Umm, probably similar curriculum education. 02:34:32
Has, has, has. Have the superintendents or principals been receptive to that? 02:34:36
They have not. 02:34:41
OK, so that's our next step. 02:34:45
We're going to be more persuasive next time we talk. 02:34:49
OK. So just future actions to complete the curriculum and work with hopefully? 02:34:53
Get some more persuasion. 02:35:01
For the Superintendent for the school seat in there. 02:35:02
And we're working on a 501-C3. This funding will end and we're going to need to sustain it. So the 501-C3 nonprofit. 02:35:06
Will give us the opportunity to apply for other grants that will. 02:35:14
Continue to to pay for these endeavors. 02:35:19
Starting mat inside LCDC. I'm hoping we'll get off the ground floor tomorrow after our meeting. 02:35:22
And then as I mentioned, collaborate with law enforcement. So we actually have several of our. 02:35:27
Staff that are. 02:35:33
Certified. 02:35:34
Crisis response. 02:35:36
Members to work with mental health or substance abuse issues within law enforcement so they were to respond to a call where 02:35:37
somebody was potentially high. 02:35:41
Nonviolent. 02:35:46
Our team could step in. They've employed these types of systems and our heroin, Travis County, and they've been pretty successful. 02:35:47
But the goal is to help law enforcement and get them treatment before they get arrested. 02:35:55
It's kind of late when they get called. 02:36:02
You have something to say about that? 02:36:07
Careful, OK. 02:36:09
Commission. 02:36:15
Questions. Comments. 02:36:16
But I encourage you to be involved in this discussion. 02:36:18
Well, I, I will be honest with you. I'm, I'm. 02:36:25
Concern that that there's been significant funds. 02:36:30
Spent with. 02:36:35
I don't see any ROI. 02:36:38
I don't know how. 02:36:41
What what our next move is on this but. 02:36:42
We we do have some money. I don't do we know how much we have in the opioid right now. 02:36:47
What is that? 02:36:53
410,000. 02:36:56
110. 02:36:58
And then we're going to be acting on another. 02:36:59
Agreement as well today. 02:37:04
Is that correct? 02:37:05
It's not going to be another agreement today, Sir. It's just going to be an approved for us to opt into any additional settlements 02:37:07
is what you're going to be asked to consider. 02:37:10
So, so you see my concern, I don't know. 02:37:14
I I don't know that. 02:37:20
That we've been able to get out of this what we were hoping for. 02:37:22
We'll probably talk about it offline. 02:37:27
But we really appreciate that. 02:37:29
You're coming in and telling us what your plans are. 02:37:31
And I'm, I'm bothered by the fact that you've gotten. 02:37:35
Environmental or no support from the schools? 02:37:38
That's that finds. I find that a little bit. 02:37:41
Interesting. 02:37:44
Mr. Chairman, if I could. 02:37:46
We've had a few initial. 02:37:48
Conversations with Sarah. 02:37:50
We are going to be more engaged in this as far as an administrative standpoint. 02:37:52
Kind of support role. 02:37:56
So that we can make sure she gets into some of the places she needs so that it. 02:37:58
At least we can't say we tried. They refused the program. We can't force it on them. 02:38:02
But we are gonna. 02:38:06
Try to support her as much as we can to get the most benefit we can. Well, maybe. Yeah, like, I appreciate that. I think that she 02:38:07
needs to help. 02:38:11
My thought is. 02:38:16
You know, we're not. This is a problem that's societal. Let's talk about, we'll talk about that philosophically for a long time. 02:38:17
But but if we just focus on one doable do. 02:38:24
Which it seems to me that I wish. 02:38:28
Warden Castleton was here. 02:38:31
I I just feel like. 02:38:34
If we could just get our. 02:38:35
Feet in that door. 02:38:36
Effectively that maybe we could have some. 02:38:38
Positive outcomes we're right now. 02:38:42
We have none. 02:38:44
And that's a lot of money to spend on. 02:38:46
And Chairman, adopt. 02:38:49
I had asked you to consider the fact that this was we. We built it from the ground up. 02:38:50
Right, I'm not as far as long as I'd hoped. 02:38:54
At all. 02:38:57
But I think we made valuable progress and we're getting there, but we are building it from the ground and it was a big undertaking 02:38:58
for a very small set. 02:39:02
I I I think we should. 02:39:06
Keep that in mind too. 02:39:07
I would ask, I would ask that you do this. 02:39:09
The county manager. This Commission. 02:39:14
Has a lot of, you know, it's like an octopus. We have people pulling. 02:39:17
Everywhere. 02:39:22
And and sometimes we need. 02:39:23
Somebody raised their hand, say hey, this is where I'm at, it's not where I want to be. 02:39:25
And get get us engaged earlier rather than a year. 02:39:31
I mean, we're a year on and and this is what. 02:39:35
So it's incumbent upon you. 02:39:38
In my. 02:39:41
The retail And now you have someone who will listen. 02:39:43
Unlike the person that sat in that chair before. 02:39:47
So. 02:39:50
So, umm. 02:39:51
Take advantage of it. 02:39:52
And we will invite you in. 02:39:54
Maybe next meeting for an update? 02:39:57
You got 4 weeks to make something happen. 02:40:00
Yes, all right. 02:40:02
We are going to add her to our regular update and we appreciate you being here. 02:40:04
As you have these events, would you name the name the invitation to Jason so we can try to attend? 02:40:10
I would love to. 02:40:16
What's going on? And. 02:40:18
Integrate ourselves with. 02:40:21
What's going on in these community groups is important. 02:40:23
We need the support I appreciate, Yeah. And we might be able to help out that way a little bit. 02:40:26
We want to. 02:40:30
Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. 02:40:33
Zia Strategies. 02:40:44
Gary Robin Brunder. 02:40:47
Mr. Chairman, Commissioner, sorry, I'll just go ahead and introduce. 02:41:03
This is Miss Kerry, Robin Brunder. She is our current state lobbyist. 02:41:07
We're working on several initiative room. Let her go ahead and give her presentation and then we'll. 02:41:11
Several discussion which. 02:41:15
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to all of the members of the Commission. I'm very happy to be here to just. 02:41:18
Remind us what happened back in the 2025 session. It feels like it was a lifetime ago, even though it was only nine months. 02:41:24
Seven months from the end. 02:41:32
And to really kind of foreshadow what Jason and I have been discussing for our priorities going into 2026 and to get your feedback 02:41:33
so that we can all be. 02:41:38
Working together to make sure the county is getting everything that they need. 02:41:42
So I think our biggest win from 2025 was definitely Senate Bill 31. 02:41:46
Senate Bill 31, while not just Burlington County, was very much in response to the fires that happened here. 02:41:52
It really sets up a revolving loan fund at the state level so that. 02:41:59
We will have money instantly in the state of New Mexico to do any kind of FEMA matching that needs to happen when a natural 02:42:04
disaster hits. 02:42:08
There will always be a minimum of $50 million in this fund for a state match. 02:42:13
The Legislature does intend to potentially have more than $50 million in this revolving fund. 02:42:19
And there's potentially going to be so many parks here in the 2026 session. 02:42:26
But we at least know that, you know, if something happens, there's a $50 million tranche that we can continually go to that will 02:42:31
be. 02:42:36
Reinvigorated once those FEMA loans are paid back. 02:42:40
So that that money is constantly being replenished at a state level. 02:42:44
Representative Harlan Vincent was a Co sponsor on this bill. His leadership was actually really instrumental. I really want to 02:42:49
make sure that he gets some credit here with his local community. 02:42:54
There was a separate piece of legislation that was being pushed by a separate senator. 02:43:00
And there was some, you know, Finangling that had to happen between the Democrats, as normally happens and. 02:43:06
Representative Vincent was just able to kind of go in there and say. 02:43:14
This is something that has to get done for all of our communities, so let's move it forward in the way that makes the most sense. 02:43:18
And his leadership was actually really instrumental in making sure this didn't fall victim to some sort of politics. 02:43:25
And it got across the finish line. So just want to make sure everybody knows how instrumental Representative Vincent was here. 02:43:32
These next few bills are bills that Lincoln County is. 02:43:40
Actively participating in right now. 02:43:43
The first one is the buffer zones under the leadership of of Chair Fisher. 02:43:46
Before the legislative session, we were really working hard with the Sierra Blanca regional task. 02:43:52
Force to talk about the importance of creating these buffer zones. 02:43:57
It is because of those conversations that this bill really had a lot of momentum during the session. 02:44:03
And really being able to talk about the lessons learned here to make sure that. 02:44:10
We are creating buffer zones around our community so that if a fire gets out of hand. 02:44:14
Because the forest has not been managed appropriately. 02:44:20
We at least need to try to protect our communities and our assets as much as possible. 02:44:23
So Lincoln County was very much talked about and used as kind of like a. 02:44:28
Beacon of light during the session on this bill, which was really refreshing. 02:44:33
I believe that Lincoln County has been awarded about $5,000,000 to start these buffer zones. 02:44:39
Somewhere right there, we just got to get it to fall over. 02:44:46
We are making sure under Jason's leadership as well, that as soon as those monies. 02:44:52
Hit the county's coffers. 02:44:58
They're encumbered. They're being. 02:44:59
We're really showing the state that this program can be successful. 02:45:02
So that we can continue to get appropriations into this program so that we can expand it, not just here in Lincoln County. 02:45:06
But I know that there's other counties that are looking to us. 02:45:14
For for advice. 02:45:17
The Wildfire Prepared Act is then the bill that really brings us more. 02:45:22
Into residential and business areas. 02:45:26
This is the bill that will make sure there's grant money available to do property hardening. 02:45:29
So new siding of homes. 02:45:35
Metal roofs, all of those things that are really going to protect individual properties. 02:45:38
This is still getting off the ground, but we are also actively participating to make sure that. 02:45:44
This grant will be available. You all are likely going to be a fiscal agent in some way, shape or form so that we're not only 02:45:49
creating the buffer zones. 02:45:53
We're also then hardening properties to make sure. 02:45:58
That if a fire happens, we have the best chance possible. 02:46:01
The next thing that we were really helpful in was securing a $3,000,000 appropriation for the Mescaleria Apache Tribe to refurbish 02:46:05
their smaller sawmill. 02:46:10
This is going to be a work in progress. It's very likely that Miss Galero will. 02:46:16
For additional appropriations in 2026. 02:46:20
To not only be able to refurbish the smaller sawmill, but to also start working on the larger sawmill. This again is part of this 02:46:24
long term strategy for economic diversification which leads into the Timber Grading Act as well. 02:46:31
This was a. 02:46:38
Something that kind of happened more towards the end of the session. That's why I had such a high skill number. 02:46:40
But we figured out that. 02:46:46
New Mexico doesn't have a program right now where we can certify New Mexicans. 02:46:49
To actually grade lumber. 02:46:54
For residential and commercial purposes. 02:46:57
So all of the lumber right now that we're able to grade is just for, you know, chicken coops and stuff like that. 02:47:00
And so we will now have our own certification program so New Mexicans can certify. 02:47:06
New Mexican timber. 02:47:12
For New Mexico. 02:47:15
Which is pretty exciting. 02:47:17
So that again is part of just this long term plan of making sure if we have the sawmill working. 02:47:19
We have our own people in that sawmill who are able to certify lumber. 02:47:24
Who can then be selling it in our own lumber yards for our own contractors and construction companies. 02:47:29
There is a special session coming in a little foreshadowing. It'll take place on October 1st and 2nd. 02:47:36
I honestly think it will only take place on October 1st. I don't think that they'll have enough. 02:47:44
Used to go into a second day. 02:47:50
Hotel rooms are also crazy up there right now. 02:47:53
4 balloons, Fiesta. 02:47:55
Which does drive some of this decision making. 02:47:57
I will be there and we'll make sure you all get a full report of what happens. 02:47:59
But it's pretty much already baked. I know that you've seen the the press releases, but. 02:48:04
This really is supposed to be a reaction to the reconciliation bill, the big beautiful bill that passed. 02:48:09
Congress just a little while ago. 02:48:16
We'll be doing some work around the rural healthcare delivery funds. 02:48:19
You will remember when the reconciliation bill was happening, Senator Susan Collins had a. 02:48:24
50 million or $50 billion appropriation to stabilize rural hospitals and rural healthcare facilities. 02:48:29
You know, that's actually. 02:48:37
As a rural health care delivery fund, we created one in 2023. 02:48:39
And so I think we're going to use that fund that New Mexico has already created as a leverage point. 02:48:43
But the federal government released guidelines for this fund just yesterday. New Mexico has to make an application to the feds. 02:48:49
That application has to be approved. 02:48:54
And that is then how the rural health care money would be coming in from the federal government. 02:48:59
There's going to be some action around health insurance premiums snap. 02:49:04
Public broadcasting. 02:49:09
And then they'll give some additional funding to the Health Care Authority just to manage kind of the administrative side of 02:49:10
implementing some of the changes that came in the reconciliation bill. 02:49:15
Around. 02:49:20
Medicaid eligibility, work requirements, and other things. 02:49:21
So the things that are not on the agenda on. 02:49:26
Public safety is not on the agenda. 02:49:31
So that means conversations about juvenile crime. 02:49:33
Gun control, all of those things are not going to happen during the special session. 02:49:37
On other things about healthcare like the Interstate Medical Compact, you may been reading a lot about those in the news that is 02:49:43
not going to happen in the in the. 02:49:47
Special session. 02:49:52
And see why fee reform is not going to happen in the special session. 02:49:53
We also made a strategic decision for full candor and transparency to not push. 02:49:58
Our priorities for disaster relief in the special session, I know that that happened in the special session in the 2020. 02:50:04
5 special session. 02:50:12
This special session is going to be very politically charged. It's going to be very, very partisan. 02:50:14
It is not the place. 02:50:21
For us. 02:50:23
To be. 02:50:24
Poking our heads. 02:50:25
And so we will wait for our package until the 30 day session. 02:50:27
That's a very strategic decision that has been made and I think it really is in the best benefit of the county to wait for the 30 02:50:32
day session. 02:50:36
So Speaking of the 30 day session, it starts January 20th, but all of the work for the 30 day session really starts. 02:50:41
In earnest this month. 02:50:47
It's budget building season so. 02:50:49
All of the state agencies actually had to submit their initial budget requests for next fiscal year on September 1st. 02:50:52
So the Finance Committee already has those budget requests coming from all of the agencies and they're starting to tease through 02:51:00
them and. 02:51:04
Figure out what questions they're going to be asking in public hearings that start in October. 02:51:08
In December is the final revenue projection. So there was a revenue projection that happened in August. 02:51:13
That revenue projection showed that we have about. 02:51:20
$400 million more. 02:51:23
Next year than this year in recurring spending. 02:51:26
We also have a very healthy pot of non recurring money that will be available which is important for us as we'll talk about in a 02:51:31
minute. 02:51:35
But that revenue projection from August is tweaked and finalized in December. 02:51:40
And those numbers from December are what the Legislature actually uses to build the budget. 02:51:45
Where's the money coming from, do you know? 02:51:51
Oil and gas bill, Yeah. 02:51:53
Yeah, it's still mainly owned, Yeah. 02:51:55
That's all we have. 02:51:57
Right, so. 02:51:58
The governor is likely to release her budget recommendation in December of this year, which is not normal. Normally, she doesn't 02:52:03
release her budget recommendation until January. 02:52:09
And that she wants to be ahead of the game this year. 02:52:14
The Finance Committee releases their budget recommendation the first week of January, so after the everyone comes back. 02:52:18
From the new Year. 02:52:25
Starting January 2nd is when bills can be pre filed. This will be important to know in in just a minute. 02:52:27
We start on January 20th. 02:52:33
This is a 30 day session, which means it is a, it is a, it is a Sprint. 02:52:36
There's pomp and circumstance that happens for about the 1st 8 legislative days and then after that it's like. 02:52:43
Nose to the grindstone, they got to get work done because the session is over before, you know, they really even think about 02:52:49
what's going on. 02:52:53
And the governor signing period and March 11th, that's when bills have to be vetoed or signed. 02:52:58
So some things to think about going into the next session. The 1st is it is a 30 day session, so per the constitution. 02:53:05
The only things that are allowed are budget. 02:53:14
Revenue. 02:53:17
Also known as taxes. 02:53:19
And items that receive a message from the governor. So the governor basically has to grant permission to the legislature to 02:53:21
discuss any bill. 02:53:26
That isn't the budget bill or tax. 02:53:31
And so if they're going to talk about CYC reform. 02:53:34
The governor has to grant permission to the legislature to do that. 02:53:38
Do you have any? 02:53:44
On. 02:53:45
On out of budget taxes. 02:53:46
So the things that we know the governor right now is likely to to talk about are her legacy. 02:53:50
So this is her last session. 02:53:57
So things that one she feels she needs to fix. 02:54:00
So things that maybe she regrets making a decision on SO. 02:54:03
Medical malpractice. 02:54:07
She has shown some regret around the medical malpractice laws that have. 02:54:08
Happened I do. 02:54:14
What I mean I I know, but I want you to say it. 02:54:15
It means that more than likely there will be a bill that is more balanced. 02:54:18
Between the physicians, the hospitals and the trial attorney, tort reform is. 02:54:23
Toilet form light. 02:54:29
Not total court reform because we're just not going to get there. 02:54:31
The tort reform light. 02:54:35
We can't keep physicians and medical professionals in the state. 02:54:37
Because of the. 02:54:40
Full, Full disclosure, I represent the position. 02:54:43
Santa Fe so. 02:54:46
We can talk about tort reform a lot. 02:54:48
Because there's also torrent form when it comes to Civil Rights Act. 02:54:52
Right and. 02:54:56
What's happening with the Civil Rights Act? 02:54:57
I think that that. 02:55:01
That is an issue that's percolating. 02:55:02
There will be public safety measures. 02:55:05
On the call in the 30 day session. 02:55:07
There, that does mean that there will be gun control legislation, there will be juvenile crime legislation. 02:55:10
That is something that's the governor is. 02:55:16
Working towards. 02:55:18
What that ends up being. 02:55:20
We don't know yet. 02:55:22
There's also likely going to be. 02:55:24
Issues around energy. 02:55:28
So diversification of our energy portfolio. 02:55:30
She is likely to continue to push other forms of energy. 02:55:34
She is not taking the stance of replacing oil and gas, but she wants to make U.S. Open for business for more kinds of energy as a 02:55:38
legacy issue because energy is something she's seen really big wins on. 02:55:45
So I think that. 02:55:51
Anything it is that she's trying to say. 02:55:53
This is my last opportunity to get it done. She's going to put on the. 02:55:56
But that's going to be in the backdrop of the House of Representatives is up for election in 2026. 02:56:01
There is going to be a big push to try to moderate the House of Representatives. 02:56:07
There's probably going to be. 02:56:12
From seats that the Republicans worked very hard to capture. 02:56:14
Perhaps the moderate Democrats will try to primary in. 02:56:17
So a lot of the decisions that the House is going to make in response to what the governor wants to do. 02:56:21
Will be very much in light of their election in 2026. 02:56:26
And that's all in the backdraft of all of the statewide offices are also up for election in November of 2026. So governor, 02:56:31
Lieutenant governor, land commissioner. 02:56:35
Secretary of State, Attorney General. 02:56:40
All of those offices are up. 02:56:43
And then we'll have all of our U.S. House members who are up. And US Senator Ben Ray Lucan is also up for election in 20. 02:56:45
So this is going to be a very partisan. 02:56:55
Session with a governor. Who is Elaine Duck? 02:56:59
Who wants to implement her legacy? 02:57:03
We are going to try to help her implement a legacy around disaster relief. 02:57:05
And we are going to try to cut through the partisan politics by having. 02:57:11
A very bipartisan pack. 02:57:15
Edge for the Rio safe. 02:57:17
Plan. I know that you all have talked about this as a Commission. This is the NRCS. 02:57:20
Property buyback program with the 7525% match. 02:57:25
In order to be all in to do the entirety of the Rio Sync plan, we would need about $150 million from the state for the state 02:57:31
share. 02:57:36
And. 02:57:41
To be very candid, $150 million in one year will be a very, very heavy lift. 02:57:44
And I don't know if we will get all the way there, but I do think we can start making some very significant sites at the Apple. 02:57:49
And we can be proving to the legislature, just like we're doing with the buffer zones and all of the other things we were 02:57:58
successful with in 2025, that this will be money very well spent. 02:58:03
We have had conversations with the Legislative Finance Committee director about this Budget Act. 02:58:09
He was very positive in terms of I understand the need. 02:58:15
I think that this proposal is something that is very valid. 02:58:19
Let's talk about prioritization. 02:58:22
If we were to do all of your priority one and priority two properties. 02:58:25
How much does that? 02:58:29
Cost, right. So that was really that was really great. 02:58:31
I mentioned that pre filing date starting January 2nd to the 16th because this is a bill that. 02:58:34
We are likely to prefile. 02:58:41
So that everybody knows it's out there. We're getting lots of people opportunity and As for building budgets in session, everybody 02:58:43
knows exactly what it is that we're trying to do. 02:58:48
The other thing that I know is the big priority is the public Safety Training center. 02:58:54
And so based on county planning and what Jason is working on with all of you. 02:58:58
There's the potential for capital outlay. 02:59:03
Here in order to do the public safety training center. 02:59:06
And then we always want to be following up on our wins from 2025, so additional funding for buffer zones. 02:59:09
Do we need to help them with Solaros, with additional funding for the sawmill, all of those things so that we're continuing our 02:59:16
momentum and we're finishing the job that we started. 02:59:20
This list is much smaller than it was last year. Admittedly, it is mainly driven because it is a budget year and it's a 30 day 02:59:26
session. 02:59:30
It's also driven by the fact that our Rio Sync plan is a very heavy lift. 02:59:34
It's a very big ***. 02:59:39
That we need to put a lot of energy and political capital behind that. 02:59:40
But there are other issues that we know we're going to be watching. 02:59:44
I know that you all have passed a resolution about wolves and depredation efforts. 02:59:49
And there is likely going to be some action in the budget around those issues. And so based on your resolution, I will be watching 02:59:54
those things very closely. 02:59:58
The New Mexico counties will also have their priorities, some of which I know will be important to us. 03:00:03
They will are likely to talk about the veteran property tax exemption on. 03:00:09
They will probably start socializing in IPPRA reform bill in the 30 day session with a real push in the six. 03:00:14
Day session because it may not get a message from the governor. Probably not her priority. 03:00:21
And so those other things that some of our, you know, I call them coalition partners, but people who we need helping us on our 03:00:26
priorities. 03:00:30
When they have their priorities, we will also be lending a helping hand in order to get their priorities done as well. 03:00:34
That's what Jason and I have really talked about so far. 03:00:39
Again, we're really looking forward to your feedback and other things that we need to be working on. I've noticed that we've not 03:00:43
talked about the racetrack, though. 03:00:47
Any insights good for them. 03:00:56
So I do know that the racetrack plans on. 03:00:59
Introducing their. 03:01:02
Exemption bill again. 03:01:05
That was introduced in the 2025 session. It was included in the Senate version of the tax package. The House removed it. 03:01:07
From the house version. 03:01:15
That is something that the racetrack I know is going to be pushing for again. 03:01:17
Other than that, I would look to Jason or any other action that we know the race track is doing. Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 03:01:22
We really don't have any. 03:01:29
Additional updates for the racetrack. I know they've had some conversations with the state. 03:01:31
Regarding repairs and reopening. 03:01:36
But no real movement or action. Yeah, I know so. 03:01:39
Trying to follow that but so so really. 03:01:42
My my my point is, is that. 03:01:44
That message that the racetrack continues to be an economic anchor for Lincoln County needs to be. 03:01:47
Reinforce right? We need not. 03:01:55
It's not the only thing. 03:01:57
But but it needs to be. 03:01:59
Out there. 03:02:01
That's that's one piece. 03:02:02
The other things that you talked about, I mean, I'm talking myself. 03:02:06
Have strong agreement with. 03:02:12
But but one other piece that's that's neglected as well and and. 03:02:17
Can't be neglected. 03:02:22
Cannot be neglected. 03:02:23
And that is every. 03:02:25
Every time we have a. 03:02:26
A flood. 03:02:28
Right, the real safe. 03:02:31
Program is designed to. 03:02:36
Protect downstream and people in the stream. 03:02:38
And values that are in the stream and downstream. 03:02:42
But we have. 03:02:46
We have to broadcast, it has to be known. 03:02:47
That the sewer line. 03:02:51
In Rio de, so goes. 03:02:54
12.6 miles. Excuse me? 03:02:56
From the upper reaches of the Canyon. 03:02:58
All the way down to the sewer sewage treatment plant. 03:03:01
That is a health and safety disaster. 03:03:05
Occurring now. 03:03:09
And will continue until it gets out taken out of that river. 03:03:11
So. 03:03:16
I'm being very strong about this because it really is health and safety. 03:03:18
We talked a little bit about. 03:03:22
Some of the, well, problems downstream. 03:03:24
We have not talked about. 03:03:26
Contamination. 03:03:28
Of those properties and perhaps even some of the wealth. 03:03:29
And so. 03:03:34
So I can't be neglected. 03:03:35
And I'm afraid that that it's falling. 03:03:39
And it's a lot. We're talking a lot of money to get it out of there, but that's the only answer. 03:03:43
I mean everybody, so county, Alco area. 03:03:49
Feeds into that, Mescaleros feed into that. 03:03:57
The village feeds into that, The Downs feeds into that. 03:04:00
And we're drinking our own. 03:04:03
Next. 03:04:07
So one of the things that that Jason and I have talked about is. 03:04:09
Ensuring that. 03:04:15
If there are other places in which the sewer line could be funded. 03:04:17
Making sure that we are then. 03:04:22
Aligning our advocacy towards. 03:04:24
Where it's most appropriate for the sewer line to be funded. 03:04:27
And the question is, is that in the Rio safe plan with the NRCS funding? 03:04:31
Or is that in a different place in statement funding planning piece I think. 03:04:36
I think my only point I want to make here. 03:04:40
Is that in the real safe plan? 03:04:43
And advocating for that. 03:04:46
One of the reasons we want to do that is to be able to. 03:04:49
Acquire that property. 03:04:52
Be able to move the sewage. 03:04:53
Sewage lines out of. 03:04:55
The river. 03:04:56
So, umm. 03:04:58
So that's. 03:04:59
You know, that sounds like you're not thinking about downstream. Yes, you are. 03:04:59
Right. But when? 03:05:03
When these myopic visions occur up in Santa Fe. 03:05:04
They need to understand that. 03:05:07
Part of that. 03:05:10
Program is designed to. 03:05:10
Get that sewage line out. 03:05:13
It has multiple benefits for all kinds of people down in the valley. 03:05:16
Even in the. 03:05:20
In the village, quite frankly. 03:05:22
So, so that's that's, that's all I'm trying to point out. 03:05:25
Because it's neglected. It happens all the time. I don't, I don't see it. 03:05:29
Never see it. I'll talk to Harlan about that, Nick. 03:05:32
Needs needs to be part of the program. 03:05:35
Either it's a whisper program. 03:05:37
You know. 03:05:40
It's another important aspect. 03:05:42
To support this. 03:05:44
Commissioners. 03:05:51
So so one of the things I found valuable. 03:05:57
Last last regular session. 03:06:00
Was when you were able to call us. 03:06:03
And I I don't. 03:06:06
As much as we love Jason. 03:06:09
So, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, we're working on a communication plan very much like what we do with the. 03:06:13
The disasters. 03:06:18
That we can. You know, Brian's real good about sending out. 03:06:20
Weather briefs and updates. 03:06:23
Getting you a morning brief. 03:06:25
And getting that out on our. 03:06:27
Do not respond group chat. 03:06:31
That we can track some of our items of interest and. 03:06:33
Make sure you guys stay informed as we step through some of these things. 03:06:37
And we'll make miscarriage available as necessary. 03:06:40
During the session so that that's good what I what I was going to. 03:06:45
Continue with my thought. 03:06:49
Is that these these Commissioners up here have? 03:06:50
The ability to communicate very well and very strongly. 03:06:53
Advocating for some of these things that we want. 03:06:56
I want to make sure they have the opportunity. 03:06:59
To do that during the session. 03:07:01
Even not so much this. This next one I don't know. 03:07:04
But, but as we prepare. 03:07:07
In these these sessions, you know the. 03:07:10
Finance Committee. 03:07:12
Pick, pick, Pick a committee. 03:07:14
Emrod, you know. 03:07:16
Natural resources committees. 03:07:17
And others, Game and Fish. 03:07:19
We we need to have those. 03:07:22
Where they have been held. 03:07:23
You know what are the subject matter? 03:07:26
And we may just go up there. I know, I know. 03:07:27
Candle does that. 03:07:30
I know I do that. 03:07:31
And others have done it. 03:07:33
As well so. 03:07:34
So we won't be able to do that. 03:07:35
This is not just you and them. 03:07:37
Jason and then. 03:07:40
It's it's really us. 03:07:42
Together. 03:07:44
And one of my commitments to Jason is part of that communication plan is you. You are all going to have a job. 03:07:46
And it's going to be very clear of. 03:07:54
Right, these are. 03:07:56
He's aware some of our communications need to go to these are some of our targets. 03:07:57
I mean, for example, the the Finance Committee literally just since I was. 03:08:02
As I was sitting. 03:08:06
They just released their agenda for next week. 03:08:07
And there's a disaster recovery presentation that's going to happen on just next week. 03:08:10
So those are some of the things now. 03:08:16
It's just the staff, it's just the Finance Committee. 03:08:18
Well, we probably ought to have a representative or two at that meeting. 03:08:22
So we're going to so that's. 03:08:27
You'll now have all of that information as the agendas come out, which as you guys know, they are not very. 03:08:28
Good about giving us all advance notice and. 03:08:34
And then when we're in the 30 day session. 03:08:38
You all will know well in advance of what all of. 03:08:40
Our strategy is going to be and how each one of you. 03:08:45
Are going to kind of be mobilized in order to not just be speaking the committee but also be talking to members well before the 03:08:49
session starts. So that will start rolling out in October and November. Yeah, the committee, committee opportunities are very 03:08:54
important because that's. 03:08:59
That's where they start putting pen to paper. 03:09:04
And so we want to be able to. 03:09:06
Bend those pins a little bit. 03:09:09
Thank you. That's important. We need that. 03:09:11
Not, not, not when they're voting. 03:09:16
It's already done. 03:09:20
Right. Anything else? 03:09:22
Anything else, ma'am? 03:09:29
Thank you for coming. Thank you so much for having me. 03:09:31
OK, um. 03:09:34
What is that next? I think. I think I'm getting ready to break for lunch, I think. 03:09:38
We're going to reset for lunch, be back here 30 minutes after the hour. 03:09:46
Is that appropriate to use the gavel? 03:09:53
Hello. 03:09:59
All right, make you sure that harder. I don't think anybody. 03:10:00
Action items. 03:10:09
Section 4. The approval minutes for the regular Commission meeting 819. 03:10:10
Concerns about this? 03:10:18
Hearing none, it's not entertain a motion to approve those minutes. 03:10:24
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to employ. 03:10:28
The Minutes 18. 03:10:31
2025 second. 03:10:34
Clark will call, please. 03:10:37
Yes, Mr. Wilson. 03:10:44
All right. Thank you. 03:10:47
Next, the monthly accounts payable and payroll report. 03:10:49
For August 2025 is Billy Jonah here. 03:10:53
Robert. 03:10:57
So we'll move on to school bus routes. 03:11:00
For now, we'll have Billy Joe come back. We're not going to waste anytime. 03:11:03
This is Mr. Honeycutt. 03:11:11
Sharing of expertise. 03:11:13
Chairman, Commissioner Commissioners Jeff Honeycutt, Lincoln County Road Superintendents. This is the list of school bus routes. 03:11:16
Submitted by all the schools here in Lincoln County. 03:11:23
Designating their school bus routes and we're looking for approval. 03:11:26
For the Commission. 03:11:31
It's kind of a yearly thing that we do. 03:11:32
Typically we like to have them in before July, but. 03:11:35
The dates are not working out because the schools have mentioned that they do not know what their school bus routes will be. 03:11:38
Until August. 03:11:44
So you got them here in September, OK. 03:11:46
We only have one map provided, the rest of it the rest of the schools just provided on lists of the roads. 03:11:50
That's what this is. These are school bus routes that are typically maintained by the county. They're not county maintained roads. 03:11:56
What they are school bus routes. 03:12:02
So we do take care of them. 03:12:04
To make sure the kids can get picked up. 03:12:06
OK, I I like Capitan. 03:12:10
The other two, not so much. 03:12:14
Right. Is there do you have any influence on that? 03:12:18
We we can discuss. 03:12:20
Yeah, I mean. 03:12:23
No, Sir, but we just hired a new GIS tech that's going to be really good at math. Yeah, well, you know, they should know that too, 03:12:25
and that's good. 03:12:29
Input needs to come from the schools, and that's where they're the ones telling us where they have to go pick up the. 03:12:34
And we didn't know what. 03:12:38
Is still the school bus route and what is not. 03:12:40
So that's critical for us and you're planning in our budget and. 03:12:43
And what private roads may or may not feed off of those, right, exactly. In our state statute says we don't improve those roads 03:12:47
with material or drainage or anything like that, but we do need to make them clear and passable. 03:12:52
So that is a state statute on that. 03:12:59
So that's the only time that you can maintain a private road. 03:13:01
Is that this is part of a school bus route? If it is a school bus route, yes, Sir, Commissioner. 03:13:04
OK that's why they keep saying no when I will ask them if I'm helping. 03:13:08
So so I. 03:13:16
I've I've looked over these. 03:13:18
And as much as I can tell. 03:13:20
Obviously. 03:13:23
Honda was not so bad. 03:13:24
Rio de Janeiro's a joke. 03:13:27
I can't. I can't assess it. 03:13:30
Right. I don't know how you assess it. 03:13:32
I guess you'll map it out. We do. 03:13:35
But so I'm very unhappy with that and they need to know that. 03:13:38
I will follow up. 03:13:41
Having said that, I will entertain a motion to approve. 03:13:43
These school bus roads as presented. 03:13:47
Concern. 03:13:53
Remember we. 03:13:57
School of stuff that's provided by the school district. 03:13:59
2nd. 03:14:02
Madam Clerk, please. 03:14:03
Commissioner Chavez, Yes. 03:14:06
Commissioner Wilson. 03:14:08
Mr. Sarnoff? Aye, Mr. Appraiser Fisher. 03:14:09
All right. 03:14:12
Thank you. And we'll go back to #2. 03:14:14
Monthly Account Payable Payroll report, August 2025. 03:14:17
This pleasure where? 03:14:21
I tried to move, he said, to say. 03:14:26
Chairman, Chairman, Commissioners, I'm requesting approval on. 03:14:32
Accounts, tables, and perils. 03:14:36
In the amount of $3,916,626.59 for the month of August. 03:14:38
And that includes, of course, expenses. 03:14:46
So, Chairman. 03:14:54
Asked me earlier. 03:14:55
For I guess the. 03:14:56
Departments on the checklisting and I gave him a different report. 03:15:00
And it does show the fun line, but it doesn't actually say the department name so. 03:15:04
I mean, there's a few of us that know those. 03:15:10
Names, but I gave them a template and so I'm not too sure if any of the Commission wants that. Next month I can give you the 03:15:12
template and. 03:15:15
I've run a different report for next month. 03:15:19
Which shows the. 03:15:21
BTS. 03:15:22
So month to month, how we're doing, I mean. 03:15:26
So. 03:15:29
This is August. 03:15:30
Last year I looked at this time and we've spent like 200,000 more than last year. 03:15:32
At this time, what did that? What did that pop up? 03:15:37
Where? Where is that actress? Is it across the board or is it 1 area? 03:15:41
Two areas, do you know? 03:15:46
We'd like to know that next time. 03:15:48
Could it be come from? 03:15:52
Emergencies, I mean, it's just. 03:15:56
Overtime for the Sheriff's Department. 03:15:58
It could be a number of those things, I know it's just the. 03:16:00
That's why we want to know. 03:16:04
OK, solid waste 124,398 Fifty. 03:16:06
To. 03:16:15
The chart? Yes ma'am. 03:16:15
Provided. 03:16:19
Of course, disaster reliefs over $1,000,000. It's not a surprise. 03:16:21
And this Tyler pulls up. 03:16:30
This chart, I don't manipulate it. I don't even know how to even go. 03:16:33
There if I. 03:16:37
Wanted to so. 03:16:38
I know for July there wasn't very many. 03:16:41
Charts on there or the color? 03:16:45
Because, you know, we just got into the fiscal year, so. 03:16:47
Of course for August 1st. 03:16:51
Everyone's chucking along. 03:16:53
Spending check. 03:16:55
There's any other categ? 03:16:59
500 just other funds that are on. 03:17:01
Just other plans that it's not capturing on the chart. 03:17:05
From the General Fund. 03:17:08
Any of the other funds throughout the. 03:17:10
That we have in our budget. 03:17:13
It could be the largest. If it's not listed on here, it's. 03:17:15
It's that's what I'm saying, it picks up. 03:17:19
What it wants on this chart? 03:17:21
And so I would actually have to go through. 03:17:23
And highlight everything that what the other is. I did do that. 03:17:27
And nobody asked me. 03:17:32
I was ready for you. 03:17:33
But this month I didn't actually sit there and highlight because I actually have to sit there and highlight. 03:17:37
And figure it out. 03:17:42
Everything that's not that's listed on the yeah, it's substantial. So we'd like to have and then the Treasury was new this month 03:17:45
and that. 03:17:49
That is the. 03:17:53
Accounts that the treasure builds out. 03:17:55
In the expense lines. 03:17:57
Out of her office. 03:18:00
What you found that out? 03:18:03
Learn something new with this trailer everyone. 03:18:05
So this the general. 03:18:08
General question. Retiree health care. 03:18:10
Everyone pays into. 03:18:13
Retiree Healthcare. 03:18:21
All county employees do. That's what that is, right? 03:18:25
OK. 03:18:29
In addition to the Paris. 03:18:36
Correct. 03:18:39
So I noticed that. 03:18:40
The Lincoln County Office of Emergency Services has a. 03:18:44
Vehicle fuel line. 03:18:48
With no expenditures. 03:18:50
You're probably pulling that out of the four 245. 03:18:55
Are subject to. 03:18:58
All right, Chairman Fisher Commissioners. 03:19:03
So typically that 401 fund is used for like our mobile command unit, stuff like that. 03:19:06
That's why there's not very many, if any, expenditures in that line yet. There will be as we go. 03:19:13
Further into the year. 03:19:18
But like our response unit, stuff like that are all paid for out of the firefighter. 03:19:20
Which is the 424 fund? 03:19:28
That captured in this. 03:19:39
Budget. 03:19:40
So the treasure is spending fuel and. 03:19:46
Maintenance, spending, fuel all makes sense. 03:19:49
Yeah. 03:19:53
Let's see law enforcement. 03:19:58
We're not expanding anything on uniforms. 03:20:00
Yeah, that's done quarterly and we probably haven't been. 03:20:02
It hasn't been submitted. 03:20:07
To us from the Sheriff's Office. 03:20:09
In animal control, we're not spending because we don't have an animal control officer do. 03:20:12
OK. I'm just picking out. 03:20:19
Some things. 03:20:22
What I just mentioned to the sheriff that I offered him once, but. 03:20:25
Cooked. He didn't want to use them hard now. 03:20:29
So anything. 03:20:47
He doesn't have a lot of remaining balances in some lines. 03:20:50
Overtime is good. 03:20:54
70% left. 03:20:57
Maintenance vehicle only 45% so you bring you bring a good point up. 03:21:01
I think rather than. 03:21:05
And I've got error. 03:21:08
Every other ones about. 03:21:09
A comment so I'm not going to go through that, but. 03:21:11
I think, I think what we're looking for. 03:21:16
Is I want to make sure that. 03:21:20
You know, as you go through the budget process. 03:21:23
It just got to be trend. 03:21:26
Obviously. 03:21:28
So much you have to pay you to do more and another month of class. 03:21:29
But I'm interested to make sure that as we reach the end of the fiscal year. 03:21:34
My future. 03:21:40
That that we're not running short. 03:21:41
And that we're tracking these expenditures. 03:21:43
I have no visibility right now. 03:21:46
On that process. 03:21:48
You know this one month, you know with the. 03:21:52
This graph. I really like this graph. 03:21:54
But but there's another story behind it. 03:21:57
And that story is? 03:21:59
What do you have left in your budget? 03:22:02
And how does that look like translating? 03:22:04
Forward. 03:22:06
What I'm asking for, Mr. Burns, is. 03:22:08
That that our department heads. 03:22:11
Have some mechanism of tracking their expenditures. 03:22:14
So that they. 03:22:18
If we don't end up at the end of the year. 03:22:19
Drawn down on the general fund because we didn't. 03:22:22
Predictor. 03:22:25
Some disaster occurred that we couldn't. 03:22:26
Imagine. You know what I'm saying. 03:22:28
Like our budgets, we all do at home. 03:22:32
And we're. 03:22:34
Once we get. 03:22:36
Tyler implemented which? 03:22:38
Bill, Joe and Sherry and. 03:22:41
He's working very hard to get this system. 03:22:43
In place. 03:22:46
It'll be made available to everyone where they can actually log in, see their budgets, see where they are. 03:22:49
And I know Billy Joe's working real hard to make sure we get this thing put in place so that it's a. 03:22:54
Good usable tool. 03:22:59
But we will start doing some budget reviews with our department heads to make sure that they're online. 03:23:00
As all of you know, we are. 03:23:05
Rather tight fiscally. 03:23:09
We don't have a lot of additional spending, so we need to make sure we know where we're at. 03:23:11
The funds are coming out of the right lines. 03:23:14
And that we're making this for when we get to budget next year. We've got a good representation of what we spent, what we need for 03:23:17
the year going forward, budget adjustments. 03:23:22
Month of not. 03:23:26
We don't need to be doing that. We're doing it this year to capture some. 03:23:28
Items, yeah. 03:23:31
Yeah. I mean, I'm thinking, I'm thinking there, there might be opportunities to move money around from time to time. 03:23:33
I I thought I was going to spend 100,000. I really only need 85. 03:23:40
But. 03:23:45
Somebody else? 03:23:46
Needs another 15 or 20. 03:23:48
We ought to be able to move these budgets. 03:23:50
Money's around, we can move money from fund to fund where the budget adjustment. 03:23:53
Moving monies around line items within that fund is is relatively. 03:23:58
That did not require the Commission approval. We can we can take care of that, but we'd like to have visibility on that. Look at 03:24:02
the budget. 03:24:05
When we look at the budget next year, we can say, yeah, you know. 03:24:09
We know the process we feel good about, right? Yes, Sir. 03:24:12
OK, based on. 03:24:16
Based on that, are there any questions from the Commissioners? 03:24:18
Any comments? 03:24:21
I just think it's important that we flag these trends early on in this fiscal year and that they're all made aware of whether 03:24:22
they're able to stay in percentage wise. We might have to just crank down. 03:24:28
So they get it every month just like you guys do. So they they are. 03:24:35
I hope everything after. 03:24:39
Well, that's my hope too. And that's what we don't know. We'll start reviewing budgets with department. 03:24:42
They are. 03:24:49
That's why, that's why we're asking these questions. 03:24:51
We'll start reviewing budgets with them as we do. 03:24:53
Commission workshops. 03:24:56
All right, if there are no more comments, questions. 03:24:58
Or anything else from you, Billy Joe Entertain? 03:25:01
Motion to. 03:25:04
Approve. 03:25:06
Accounts payable on payroll for September 2025. 03:25:08
Officer, Chairman, I'd like to make a motion to be approved. 03:25:13
Stable anti roll report from August 2025. 03:25:16
2nd. 03:25:21
Roll call clerk. 03:25:24
Mr. Sarna. 03:25:27
Yeah. 03:25:29
Thank you very much. 03:25:35
Consideration of transportation project fund award agreement 1566 and resolution. 03:25:38
26 that 21 Mr. Honeyfield Yes Chairman Commissioners Jeff Honeycutt, Lincoln County Road Superintendent. 03:25:43
This one has been a long time coming. This was year three that we had actually applied for this maintenance fund. 03:25:51
And we were finally awarded this year. 03:25:57
It's $1.9 million award with a 5% match of $100,000. 03:26:00
And it will be for a. 03:26:06
Two different. 03:26:08
Roads in two different districts. Elvania loop will get a double 10 chip seal with the micro surface. 03:26:09
And also intended for forest loop. 03:26:16
We'll get a double pin chip seal with the micro surface. That's what the money is earmarked for. 03:26:18
The manager and myself have been working on this one for two or three years, even before. 03:26:25
He was here at the county. We were working on this through Circo. 03:26:29
That's interesting. 03:26:35
OK. 03:26:39
All right and come together, Sir, Alright. 03:26:41
This is very important for those people, those like what, How many? 03:26:45
Residences on our value it's quite a bit, yeah, I think it was over 50 addresses that we counted just on the value of, you know 03:26:48
just. 03:26:52
Figure 3 to 4 per household and we're. 03:26:58
Service in a couple, 100 people there. 03:27:00
And it ties in both of our county owned bridges. 03:27:02
And it ties in the Highway 70. 03:27:05
Correct. Lieutenant Boris loop loops around there and ties into Hwy. 48. 03:27:08
Coming up, but before you get over Angus. 03:27:12
Have you finished the wireline? 03:27:15
Project. 03:27:17
Sherman Fisher, Commissioner Stern, that we actually do a final inspection on the water line tomorrow. 03:27:18
And angina force, so the final should be done and they'll provide a punch list. 03:27:23
These funds will probably we're looking more probably in the spring. 03:27:27
Of doing this work because of our weather. 03:27:31
But it'll be a spring project for us, probably April, May. 03:27:33
Is the timeline. 03:27:37
OK, Are you ready for this? 03:27:40
You got to fix your resolution. 03:27:43
So. 03:27:47
You look at the third line down. 03:27:48
This participation. 03:27:50
Birth. 03:27:53
Okay. 03:27:59
The first line of. 03:28:00
Whereas. 03:28:02
The County of Lincoln. 03:28:05
Yes, Sir. 03:28:09
And of course that needs to be duplicated. 03:28:12
On down the line. 03:28:15
And if you go on the bottom. 03:28:17
Page of page one third line from. 03:28:19
The top of the last paragraph. 03:28:21
Fitzcarrick County. 03:28:25
Instead of Cootie. 03:28:27
Goodyear, that's something that. 03:28:28
Some people have and you don't want it. 03:28:30
All right. 03:28:34
I think. 03:28:40
I think that's all I got on there. 03:28:41
Entertain a motion to approve this with the amendments as discussed. 03:28:44
I'd like to make a motion to approve the TPF next to the Department of Transportation. 03:28:49
Cooperative agreement help. 03:28:54
T200. 03:28:56
6-8 Rd. Maintenance Construction maintenance. 03:28:58
Of two county owned roads, El Valley Loop. 03:29:02
An intrepid forest loop. 03:29:05
With so said changes. 03:29:07
Go ahead, please. 03:29:15
Commissioner, Further. 03:29:19
Aye, Commissioner Wilson. Yes, Commissioner Chavez. 03:29:20
Yes. 03:29:22
I'm Chair Fisher. 03:29:23
Aye. 03:29:25
Thank you. Thank you. 03:29:27
The next item. 03:29:31
Is #5. 03:29:33
Consideration of award. 03:29:35
The IFB dash 1, the Gotta Creek concrete box Culver. 03:29:38
And Nick Morod. 03:29:42
He's going to help us out with that Commission. 03:29:46
Procurement Officer. 03:29:50
Where you have the order I see. 03:29:52
2025-1. 03:29:54
Without a Creek concrete box covert. 03:29:56
1st. 03:30:00
And the county Commission approved issue IP. 03:30:02
25 one it's a regular. 03:30:06
July 15th. 03:30:08
Meeting procurement advertising, I've been able to legal publishing sources, we built some news Las Cruces Sun. 03:30:10
Awful Daily Record. 03:30:18
Those on the county website. 03:30:20
We did receive 6 bit submission. 03:30:22
By the public good opening. 03:30:24
Meeting on. 03:30:27
September 9th, 10 AM. 03:30:28
We reviewed and gained all six submissions responses. 03:30:31
The lowest parent bidder did. 03:30:36
Withdraw their bid. 03:30:39
And after that count, we have now received the award recommendation from the project engineer, Wilson Company. 03:30:42
You grew up Canyon Construction LLC. 03:30:50
Questions. 03:30:53
So we had, we had Wilson. 03:31:06
Actually make this. 03:31:08
This decision. 03:31:09
So, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 03:31:11
The way this process works is. 03:31:13
Once we open a bid, we have contracted Wilson Engineering to be our project engineer. 03:31:16
They discussed it with us and once we kind of. 03:31:21
Agree. I mean, ultimately this was a low bid. 03:31:25
The procurement. 03:31:28
So if the low bid is responsive and has no documented reasons to. 03:31:30
Reject them. They make a recommendation based on the bids. 03:31:35
And the responsiveness of the. 03:31:39
Package that was submitted, so yes the recommendation. 03:31:43
Is drawn up by the engineer. 03:31:46
Do I have any insight in this company? 03:31:51
I do, do you? 03:31:57
Chairman Fisher Commissioners Jeff Bonnie Cut, Lincoln County Road Superintendent. 03:31:59
Rock Canyon is out of. 03:32:03
And I know the owner of the company. 03:32:06
I used to work with Mesa Verde, split from them, started his own. 03:32:08
And there you do very good work. 03:32:12
Named Carl, who's he's a good man. I've seen her work before. I've never worked with him. 03:32:15
You see what I'm getting at? 03:32:24
I appreciate that that makes. 03:32:26
Me feel better about this decision I just. 03:32:29
You know I like Wilson. 03:32:32
You know what I mean? 03:32:34
This one makes sure that we have. 03:32:36
The visibility we need in these decisions. 03:32:38
We definitely discussed it. 03:32:40
Between the manager and myself about how we wanted to move forward before we even sent the information to. 03:32:43
OK. 03:32:49
Enough. 03:32:51
So I'll entertain a motion to award IFB Dash One about every concrete box culvert. 03:32:55
2 Rock Canyon Construction. 03:33:02
I have a motion please. 03:33:08
Make a motion to award the. 03:33:11
Of FB. 03:33:13
2025-1 Magado Creek. 03:33:14
Concrete box culverts. 03:33:17
To rock Canyon construction for the amount of. 03:33:20
1,000,000. 03:33:24
569,527 dollars. 03:33:25
2nd. 03:33:30
Madam Clerk, walk off, please. 03:33:33
Mr. Wilson. 03:33:37
Commissioner Serna. 03:33:39
Back, Commissioner Fraser Aye, Commissioner Travis. 03:33:40
Yes, sure, Fisher. 03:33:42
All right. 03:33:44
Thank you. Thank you. 03:33:45
Consideration Advertising invitation for bids. IFBB 2. 03:33:51
Lincoln County annual construction maintenance route. 03:33:56
Recovery. 03:34:00
In response, materials and service manager Burns, please. 03:34:01
So, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 03:34:05
In line with the direction received by Commission. 03:34:07
To be. 03:34:10
The utmost transparent. 03:34:12
And provide the best service at the most efficient. 03:34:14
Means possible for the county. 03:34:17
This is what we're bringing for you today. 03:34:20
It kind of goes in line with. 03:34:23
Do you know the way that? 03:34:26
We just. 03:34:27
Asked you for award on the Megado Creek. It was a low bid. 03:34:28
Item it opens it up to a fair process. 03:34:32
For everyone. 03:34:35
Which ultimately. 03:34:37
Incentivizes local contractors as. 03:34:40
They're in the area they can provide. 03:34:43
Services. 03:34:45
And materials at. 03:34:46
You know, uh. 03:34:47
Theoretically a better rate. 03:34:48
Per say from like Albuquerque. 03:34:50
So what the request is for this is for an annual. 03:34:52
Maintenance and services. 03:34:57
Bid. 03:34:59
I had one of these in Eddy County that I had drafted and put together in Mr. Honeycutt's seen it and have been reviewing this with 03:35:01
me for. 03:35:05
Lincoln County. 03:35:09
Purposes. Uh. 03:35:10
The way this thing will work. 03:35:12
Is we will bid. 03:35:13
Multiple line items. 03:35:17
Of any services. 03:35:19
Or materials that the county could need. 03:35:21
As it pertains to road construction, bridge construction. 03:35:24
Equipment by the hour. 03:35:27
Cattle guards, culverts, fencing. 03:35:30
Any of these items that are in line. 03:35:33
With that. 03:35:36
And we advertise these line items for open. 03:35:38
Contractors. 03:35:43
Will submit their bids. 03:35:44
For these line items for the services and materials. 03:35:46
That their company can provide the county. 03:35:49
So they will only put. 03:35:52
Unit bids on the items that their company provides. 03:35:55
Once we receive those bids, we will have a process. 03:36:00
Once we open those bids and evaluate them and deem their bid responsive. 03:36:04
The way this thing works is the county this allows. 03:36:08
Superintendent Honeycutt. 03:36:11
To draft his own scopes based offline items. 03:36:13
With. 03:36:16
Unit prices. 03:36:17
We will essentially be able to do our own project estimating and award our own contract based on. 03:36:19
Lowest price. 03:36:24
Off of the line items that we have established. 03:36:26
Unit prices for. 03:36:28
So essentially what? 03:36:30
Superintendent Honeycutt would do. 03:36:31
Has come in and developed the scope, the quantity, the termini I. 03:36:33
And he'll be able to go through there and pick the line items out that he needs. 03:36:36
Then we will be able to award projects based off of a low number from establishing the prices. 03:36:40
This makes our processes very efficient, it makes it very transparent, and it also incentivizes our local contractors. 03:36:47
Thanks for the buck. 03:36:56
I'm going to recuse myself from. 03:37:01
OK. Because my company plans on bidding with. 03:37:04
OK, good. Thank you. 03:37:07
Any other questions or comments? 03:37:09
Chairman, I've also had one of these contracts that I worked under for 20 years in Las Cruces and it was very. 03:37:13
Productive. 03:37:19
And it cut. 03:37:21
Down a lot of time. 03:37:22
Explain to me this. 03:37:24
I've seen I've seen the the XL or the matrix an example of it not. 03:37:26
This one but. 03:37:31
An example. 03:37:32
I'm not sure I totally understand it. 03:37:33
Yeah, do you? 03:37:36
I could imagine. 03:37:39
That you would mix and match contractors for one job. 03:37:40
You can. 03:37:47
You can. 03:37:48
But in Honeycutt and Superintendent Honeycutt will tell you it's never efficient. 03:37:50
To do it that way. 03:37:55
If you can have a contractor that can complete one scope. 03:37:57
That that's the preferred. 03:38:01
Method. 03:38:03
Because contractors working over each other is never successful. 03:38:04
But this kind of contract will offer you that opportunity to do such things in the benefit of the County Council seeing fit by. 03:38:08
Superintendent Honeycutt and myself. 03:38:16
It's rational. 03:38:19
So it would be the aggregate of the cost as opposed to. 03:38:21
Individual line items that may or may not. 03:38:24
In other words. 03:38:27
I I can bring. I can bring you. 03:38:28
Space course at this price. 03:38:29
But my other prices are a little bit higher. This is lower than that guy. 03:38:32
You don't wanna. 03:38:36
Necessarily. 03:38:37
But you could. 03:38:39
If the project was big enough and he just had. 03:38:40
One could imagine that. 03:38:42
Mr. Fisher, you look at the overall good of the project and the cost of the county. 03:38:44
And that way you can plug that in and see where it's going to fit the best. 03:38:48
So at the end of the day. 03:38:52
We we go out for bids from from these contractors. They're good for X amount of time. 03:38:54
We asked them to hold their prices for one year until we were new. 03:38:59
OK. All right. 03:39:03
Any other questions or comments? 03:39:07
So I would like to entertain a motion. 03:39:15
To approve the advertising of invitation for bids. IFBB. 03:39:19
Dash 2. 03:39:23
The Lincoln County. 03:39:25
From the county of Lincoln. Excuse me. 03:39:27
Annual construction, maintenance, recovery, and response. 03:39:30
I just got here. 03:39:35
Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that we approve. 03:39:38
The consideration to advertise invitation. 03:39:41
IFE Dash 2. 03:39:44
County of Lincoln annual construction, maintenance, recovery and responsive materials and services. 03:39:45
2nd Madam Clerk. 03:39:50
Commissioner Chavez has recused himself on this vote. 03:39:54
So roll call please, for everybody else. 03:39:57
Mr. Wilson, Commissioner. 03:40:01
Hi, Commissioner Prater, Aye. 03:40:03
Chair Fisher, Hi. 03:40:05
Motion passes. Thank you. Outstanding. Thank you. 03:40:06
So consideration next on the. 03:40:13
The. 03:40:16
This is consideration to adopt the 2025 the County Week. 03:40:19
You did a wonderful. 03:40:24
So you you know that's going to be a. 03:40:38
Change if that's for. 03:40:40
In your plan, yeah. 03:40:42
County of Lincoln. 03:40:46
Yes. 03:40:48
Please yes. 03:40:51
So, committee or Chairman Fisher? 03:40:59
Commissioners, what we bring before you today is. 03:41:02
Updated. 03:41:04
Just a revitalized. 03:41:05
Emergency operations plan. 03:41:07
What you have in front of you is a base summary. 03:41:08
That it's a narrative of what the entire plan consists of. 03:41:11
The last time Joe Kenmore was working on the update of this plan. 03:41:17
2018 was the last time that it had been before Commission. 03:41:21
If a living document is a very broad plan. 03:41:26
Generalizes everything from. 03:41:30
Communication and warning sheltering. 03:41:33
So what I've added now is. 03:41:36
Flood in post fire flooding. 03:41:38
We added the PSPS annex. 03:41:40
The plan consists of 17 sections, 6 annexes and 17 attachments. 03:41:43
The plan is due every three years in DHSEM. They require a. 03:41:49
A copy on file. 03:41:54
In order for us to maintain. 03:41:56
Applying for shish ***** hands and applying for. 03:41:58
And it allows us to. 03:42:00
It allows us to identify our needs. 03:42:03
And work on another document we have called the thyroid where we. 03:42:05
We identified gaps in training and needs in accounting. It allows us to. 03:42:09
And So what I'm bringing before you is. 03:42:13
A copy. 03:42:16
It's been updated. 03:42:18
And added to. 03:42:20
Since the last one in 2018. 03:42:22
OK. Any questions from the Commission? 03:42:24
I have a comment on you guys put a lot of due diligence into this document. I mean, I think it's. 03:42:28
Far above and beyond. 03:42:34
What it used to be so. 03:42:36
I have a couple questions. 03:42:41
Do you think civil unrest is a particularly important? 03:42:44
Problem we have in Lincoln County, No. 03:42:47
The public utility disruptions seem to be. 03:42:54
Key piece. 03:42:58
You know, power and communication. 03:43:00
I would suggest that you. 03:43:03
Spell that out a little bit more if you could. 03:43:05
Communications we've talked about. 03:43:08
Utilities. Electricity for sure. 03:43:11
And from any water, we've seen that too. 03:43:14
Right, so so. 03:43:17
I would just suggest this is just a suggestion. 03:43:19
That you might add those. 03:43:22
OK. And the seven one last part, I wouldn't want to give anybody ideas. I pick it out. 03:43:24
No. And that's it's. That's why it's not a public document. It's strictly an operation. 03:43:29
Chance to allow any civil war. 03:43:35
Concerns for fixed Tier 2. 03:43:41
Sites. What are your fixture two types sites that you're worried about? Lincoln County. 03:43:43
For ours, for the county, it's the propane distribution, just the propane goal. 03:43:47
Yeah. 03:43:53
I get that. 03:43:55
Behavioral health surges. 03:43:57
What the hell is that? 03:44:00
A behavioral health surge. 03:44:02
Yeah. 03:44:04
Do I know what is it? 03:44:08
Oh, so behavioral health surge when it has. 03:44:10
What is? 03:44:16
We all go nuts. 03:44:20
So the. 03:44:24
When the pandemic hit. 03:44:25
It was, it was. It's the mental state of the community. 03:44:27
Blood fatigue, Mr. Chairman, Commissioner, even Yes, the alert fatigue. All right, I won't be labor. I just. 03:44:33
It's very. It's a good document. 03:44:42
PTSD and those types. 03:44:45
For for everybody. 03:44:49
Suddenly we all get PTSD. 03:44:51
I would entertain a motion. 03:44:57
To approve the Office of Emergency Service update Emergency Operations plan. 03:45:02
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a. 03:45:09
Motion that we approve the consideration of Office of Emergency Services updates emergency operational seats. 03:45:11
One second. 03:45:19
Mansburg roll call, please. 03:45:21
Yes, Commissioner. 03:45:27
Aye, Commissioner Prater. 03:45:28
Aye, Fisher. 03:45:29
Alright, thank you. 03:45:31
Next. 03:45:32
Consideration of Nobel Volunteer Fire Department purchase of new UTV unit. 03:45:34
Mr. Green, thank you, Brian. Thank you. 03:45:39
Chairman Fisher Commissioners Aaron Green, one emergency services director. 03:45:42
So before you days and no got Volunteer Fire Department is requesting to purchase. 03:45:46
Crew Cab UTV. 03:45:53
That will be set up for Fire and Rescue operations within the district. 03:45:55
No GAL Fire department currently operates 16 well UTV. This one will be a four wheel crew kept version so they have one. 03:46:00
Six wheel version. 03:46:07
That they have at their Forsyth station, which is the one closest to Snowga Canyon. 03:46:08
This one will be. 03:46:12
Put up in the. 03:46:14
Abby and fire station on the other end of the district, so it will be available to. 03:46:16
All of the Cord, Dutton, Loma Grande areas, as well as to mutilate in the Benito Lake area, places like that. 03:46:20
And so they will be. 03:46:27
Paying for this out of fire fund. 03:46:29
In the amount of $27,762. 03:46:32
And it it's just. 03:46:37
For packs, Karen. 03:46:38
Passengers, right? 03:46:40
No Sir, this one will be equipped with. 03:46:41
Firefighting capabilities as well. Have a tank and yes tank pump. 03:46:43
All that OK. 03:46:47
Any other questions? Commission. 03:46:51
No Entertain a motion to approve. 03:46:54
Make a motion that we approve the Nogal Volunteer Fire Department. 03:46:59
Purchase of the Crew Cab UP. 03:47:03
Is there a second? 03:47:06
Madam Clerk, roll call, please. 03:47:09
Hi, Commissioner Freitas. 03:47:13
Commissioner, Awesome. Yes. 03:47:14
Commissioner Travis. Yes, Chair Fisher. 03:47:16
All right. Thank you. Thank you. 03:47:18
Consideration of budget adjustment. 03:47:26
For clerks, election security subgrant. This is interesting. 03:47:28
Fisher Commissioners, this was an oversight on my part. Whenever we did the budget, this was a grant of $50,000 grant that we were 03:47:34
awarded. 03:47:38
Last fiscal year. 03:47:42
And accidentally. 03:47:43
By 13,000. 03:47:46
So this is just putting it back up to the. 03:47:48
I don't know, right? That's just moving money around. 03:47:50
You understand what happened? 03:47:54
We're good. 03:47:58
Thank you. Let's. 03:48:00
Have a motion to approve this budget adjustment for the Clerk. 03:48:02
Election security. 03:48:06
Mr. Chairman, Members, we approved it, but you did testament approach election security. 03:48:08
Yes, Chair Fisher. 03:48:23
All right. Thank you. 03:48:25
So next we go to the consent item. 03:48:28
The Treasurers Report would like to hear from you. 03:48:33
Treasure. 03:48:37
Yes, I think we need to do it. 03:48:41
All the items you want to pull. 03:48:43
Vote on that and if you're going to leave it in the, let's pull 1/2. Thank you. 03:48:45
We already discussed 5, so we don't have to do that, but just one or two of the. 03:48:50
I don't hear about 3:00 and 4:00. 03:48:56
3. 03:48:58
4:00 and 6:00. 03:48:59
You need a vote to. 03:49:06
OK, Treasurer's report for August 2025. 03:49:08
Good afternoon, Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Sherry Huddleston, Lincoln County Treasurer, presenting the Treasurer's financial 03:49:14
report. 03:49:17
The month ending August 31st, 2025. 03:49:20
Pages 1. 03:49:24
Through-tube provide the. 03:49:26
Fund balance reporting. 03:49:28
Report Sorry listing on all funds for a total of 53 million. 03:49:30
$428,351. 03:49:34
And $0.90. 03:49:37
General Fund. 03:49:39
401. 03:49:40
Shows the ending balance of 9,896,000. 03:49:41
$120.42. 03:49:45
This compares to an Indian balance of 10,000,911. 03:49:48
$1382.61 for the same period in August 31st, 2024. 03:49:52
You just had a lot of more expenditures this year. 03:49:59
They're spinning a little bit more. 03:50:02
Emergencies. 03:50:04
Overtime. 03:50:05
Things like that. So. 03:50:06
I feel like that's where most of that's going right now. 03:50:08
Pages 3 through 7. 03:50:12
Provides the budget reports for revenues, transfers, and expenses. 03:50:14
For the activity period of August 2025. 03:50:18
The revenues. 03:50:22
Have the transfers in. 03:50:23
Included. 03:50:26
And the expenses have the transfers out, including it's a Tyler programming thing we're trying to figure out on the reporting. 03:50:27
How to get that adjusted but it's? 03:50:34
It's still a new program, we're working on that. 03:50:36
Page 8 provides a. 03:50:39
Budget resolutions for revenue and transfers. Page 9 shows the actual transfers. 03:50:41
That we have done. 03:50:48
Page 10 and 11 The full cash report reflects the cash and banks current balance. 03:50:50
Totaling $53,428,351.90. 03:50:55
Page 12. 03:51:01
Provides A detailed account of all investment bank balances and confirms the total cash balance. 03:51:02
Of the $53,000,428.00 and 300. 03:51:07
$428,351.90 Held by the Treasurer. 03:51:12
As of August 31st, 2025. 03:51:16
Page 13 provides a pro rata report listing all deposits, security pledges. 03:51:20
Reported by the bank for August 2025. 03:51:25
Page 14 provides a summary of bank accounts. 03:51:29
That report the security pledges. 03:51:32
So that would be the secret, yes. 03:51:36
For the same time period. 03:51:38
Page 15 is the Clerks report for August 2025. 03:51:40
Page 16 is a list of the debts to schedule. 03:51:45
The change? 03:51:48
So there's no change from the prior month because NMFA did not report to us by the time we had to get the book. 03:51:49
To the manager. 03:51:55
He was. 03:51:57
Going where's the book, first of the book, So we do not have the NMFA statements in there. Next month it will change because we 03:52:00
have payment. 03:52:03
For the Geo bond debt. 03:52:06
What does that change look like? You. 03:52:10
It was 100 and. 03:52:12
15115. 03:52:15
1009 for the. 03:52:18
Alkaline, yes, Yeah. 03:52:20
Yeah, don't let the balance of like 2,000,020 or something out of the three million we had. 03:52:23
And that is paid by the. 03:52:32
Lease fund from the. 03:52:35
Hey page 17 provides tax schedule maintenance report for property taxes billed by. 03:52:40
Year 2025 is showing 96.44% collected for August. 03:52:45
Last year at this time it was a 96.66%. 03:52:51
So the collections are steady with the prior years. 03:52:55
Page 18 and 19 provides the August 2025 tax distribution. 03:52:59
Selected. 03:53:04
18 and 19. 03:53:07
Yeah, that's it. 03:53:09
So that's anything we've distributed. 03:53:10
We collected and distributed to schools, municipality and special districts and then to the general fund. 03:53:12
The hospital. 03:53:18
And predatorial control. 03:53:19
Page 20 is the new form I did put on top of your book. 03:53:22
This is a brief summary of the 2025 property taxes. 03:53:27
And that gives you a better. 03:53:32
Insight instead of the 11 pages that you have to go through, that's a summarization so you can really see how everything's built 03:53:33
out. 03:53:37
I like this is very helpful. 03:53:41
I almost understand it. 03:53:44
I stand for questions. 03:53:47
Any questions, Commission. 03:53:53
There's so. 03:53:58
Looking at your. 03:54:01
Graph revenue versus expenses five years. 03:54:03
This one. 03:54:08
But the revenues have to be completed because of. 03:54:16
Grants and. 03:54:19
Federal reimbursements, right? So these are actuals? 03:54:21
So you notice it only goes to 2425, so those are actual revenues versus expensive, so. 03:54:25
Is that inclusive of a grand? Yes. 03:54:31
Anything coming in, anything going out, So if it's an expenditure for Grant or if it's the revenue coming in for Grant. 03:54:34
We have to show that. 03:54:42
Which is a good thing, because it tells us that we're getting. 03:54:44
Reimburse for these disasters, I think. 03:54:47
Yes, so if. 03:54:50
General Fund extended it out. 03:54:52
To cover a grant. 03:54:54
It was reimbursed into general planning for the grants so. 03:54:55
It should be a wash within. 03:54:59
A few years. 03:55:01
So, so we've we've been talking about this for. 03:55:04
For a year's time now. 03:55:07
About. 03:55:09
The $12 million that we spent. 03:55:11
Do we have any visibility on what's coming in? 03:55:15
So yesterday we received $5.8 million. 03:55:17
For the female. 03:55:21
Payment and we also received the $4 million for the NRCS match. 03:55:22
And I'll let manager. 03:55:30
Burns talk about. 03:55:32
Other payment committee. 03:55:35
So we ought to be clapping and standing up. 03:55:37
Down on our heads for this one. 03:55:39
Yeah, a lot of good work involved in this. It's good. 03:55:41
I was waiting for the. 03:55:47
It's, it's critical because. 03:55:54
We have more stuff to do. 03:55:56
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, this has been a long time coming. There have been several efforts. 03:55:59
Involved in this I mean. 03:56:05
And in reality, yes, as we joke and say, there should be applause in this. 03:56:07
This is the effort that goes into a process that's supposed to be made easy. 03:56:12
We're not supposed to have to go fight for our money this hard. 03:56:16
It's county dollars. This is not like This is Money that we're trying to get from them. This is. 03:56:19
Money that a year ago, the county expense and we're trying to get it back. 03:56:24
So yes, we had a lot of good effort getting the first portion of this funding back. 03:56:29
There's still more to go get. 03:56:34
We have had a conversation with DFA that we're going to be submitting a reimbursement of payment request as we've now received. 03:56:36
The FEMA and the DHSM portion. 03:56:43
We will submit the request. 03:56:45
For the. 03:56:47
25%. 03:56:48
That is essentially supposed to be the. 03:56:50
Portion of that. 03:56:53
That DFA has agreed to fund. 03:56:54
We've signed grant agreements with that and we will be requesting that payment. 03:56:57
The other. 03:57:01
Portions of this money that are still forthcoming. 03:57:03
Are the EOC costs? 03:57:05
And there are 75 and 25% that are forthcoming along with our Cedar Creek. 03:57:07
Projects that are still in review processes as those were roads and we had to go through that little process with the federal 03:57:13
highways. 03:57:16
So this is coming back. We're going to be made whole to this. 03:57:19
Slowly but surely, and this is a good. 03:57:22
Big first step in the first What's the magnitude of those two refunds or? 03:57:24
Funniest were expecting to come back. Cedar Creek Cedar Creek is about. 03:57:29
460,400 thousand. It's right there at the half, $1,000,000 mark. 03:57:34
The EOC reimbursement cost is $1,000,000 a million and a little bit of change. 03:57:40
So I mean, we're still. 03:57:44
Working towards the. 03:57:45
10 million, $11 million mark. 03:57:47
To get fully reimbursed. 03:57:49
But this is a good first step in that direction. 03:57:53
Well, the 1.9 that we're going to be requesting. 03:57:57
That we received this yesterday, so we'll be submitting that payment request today. 03:58:01
Hopefully we'll have the payment next 9 million. 03:58:07
Which is the match money for the 5.8? 03:58:10
You like so? 03:58:12
And then with those three things. 03:58:14
About 100%. It'll be about 100%. 03:58:17
So that's just a great, that's just great. 03:58:19
Very good, puts us in a good position. 03:58:23
OK. And it's a good chart. 03:58:27
Right. 03:58:30
Why? Because we can tell trans. 03:58:32
Trend lines. 03:58:34
OK. Any other questions, comments? 03:58:39
Hearing none. 03:58:46
Thank you. Thank you very much. 03:58:48
#2 Consideration Agreement 1567 US Forest Service agreement for funding for Rd. process. 03:58:56
Yeah, we need to. 03:59:02
Motion and approval on that. 03:59:03
On your treasure before. 03:59:05
We could do it all. 03:59:08
We'll do it the right way. So I need a motion to accept the. 03:59:13
2nd Madam Clerk, please. 03:59:22
Aye, Commissioner. 03:59:30
Commissioner Startup Commissioner Wilson. Sure, Fisher. 03:59:33
Alright, thank you. 03:59:36
All right, next. 03:59:38
Consideration of the Agreement, 1567. 03:59:39
This was a project that the Forest Service brought to. 03:59:48
Our attention a couple of months ago. 03:59:53
We have done a similar project. 03:59:56
Not to this money of. 03:59:58
Magnitude money of money, but. 03:59:59
Where they're going to provide the funds. 04:00:02
We're going to procure the project and I'll manage the project. 04:00:05
From a contractor with a contractor. 04:00:09
OK. So they're providing the $3,000,000? 04:00:11
And we're going to improve module. 04:00:14
From the very bottom Ski run Rd. all the way to the top. 04:00:16
To the lookout for. 04:00:20
8 miles. 04:00:21
You want to move forward with. 04:00:22
You also mentioned managing. 04:00:23
Provide more and that we're going to be doing that and so we're going to do that. The improvement is going to include. 04:00:27
At least 4 to 6 inches of base course drainage improvements. Well, improvements. 04:00:33
All the way up Mondo, which also services. 04:00:37
A county. 04:00:40
Maintained community of via Madonna. 04:00:42
Up there at the very top of Manja. 04:00:44
So something that we've done before. 04:00:47
It's probably not going to get started till the spring or summer. 04:00:50
Is when that money will be approved, but we need this approval so they can go ahead and move forward with the. 04:00:53
Getting us the money. 04:00:58
The money will be given to us first. 04:01:00
So there is no upfront cost from the county. 04:01:02
And we'll pull down off of that after we procure the. 04:01:04
The project. 04:01:07
Superintendent Honeycutt, do you have any idea? I mean, are we going to have to follow there? 04:01:09
Their guidelines, are you going to be in complete control? German Fisher, Commissioner Fraser. It's going to be 100% county. 04:01:13
Maintained and to be procured with our procurement. 04:01:20
OK. Any other comments or questions? 04:01:26
I'm bullied by the fact that. 04:01:29
We're not using our assets on it. You're just managing just yeah. 04:01:31
That was, that was. 04:01:35
Michael, Sir. 04:01:37
There are two low water crossings in there. 04:01:40
Or two culverts that should be. 04:01:43
Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Charles, There's. 04:01:46
Several areas up and down module that need to be improved drainage wise. There are no current low water crossings. 04:01:48
But all of that will be looked to get looked at. 04:01:55
To be put into place, I'm going to develop the scope. 04:01:58
The federal the. 04:02:01
Forest Service has provided things that they expect. 04:02:02
And I'm working with their engineer on providing a scope on things that we see. 04:02:05
That is one of our maintained roads as part of our Schedule A agreement with the Forest Service. 04:02:09
So we maintain that road anyway. 04:02:14
And we've been asking for material and culverts, which they provide culverts to us, but we've been asking for material for years. 04:02:16
This will be a way for us to take care of it from top to bottom, all 8 miles. 04:02:23
Any other questions or comments? 04:02:30
Entertain a motion to approve the agreement. 04:02:33
1567. 04:02:36
Will the US Forest Service? 04:02:37
For funding of this road project. 04:02:39
Mr. Chairman, I move to approve the agreement of 1567 US Sports Association. 04:02:42
The throat punches. 04:02:48
Second Secretary. 04:02:50
Commissioner Sharna. 04:02:56
Aye, Commissioner Chavez, Yes, Mr. Wilson. 04:02:58
All right, Motion. 04:03:02
Thank you #3 Consideration of disposed Lincoln County vehicles. Flat Rock Volunteer Fire Department. 04:03:03
Mr. Guvera. 04:03:10
Sir. 04:03:11
Chairman. Fisher, Commissioners. 04:03:20
June tomorrow after. 04:03:22
This vehicle, it's in this building vehicle that you see on the end of the. 04:03:25
Parking lot. 04:03:28
3rd again approved for disposal back in May. 04:03:30
From DFA you guys approve that? 04:03:33
And so I got a call from a guy, a Fire Chief out in Arkansas. 04:03:36
Little Rock or Fat Rock? 04:03:40
And what? 04:03:43
But he was telling me what they want to do to make a large truck out of it. 04:03:45
I mean they don't got much funds. They have like 12. They get like 12,000 a year. 04:03:48
So this will really help them out a lot to. 04:03:53
Help with the water resources up there. 04:03:57
I mean. 04:03:59
For what they need to be perfect. 04:04:00
Currently right now, vehicles are not selling very good on us. 04:04:03
Auction site. 04:04:06
So we're not gonna lose much. 04:04:08
That will be of great benefit to them. 04:04:11
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 04:04:15
You know, it's always good. 04:04:18
To be able to help out. 04:04:19
Other entities. 04:04:20
As we dispose of assets. 04:04:22
If the options available. 04:04:26
If we can donate it to an. 04:04:28
Another entity and allow them to get some additional beneficial use out of it. 04:04:30
It's a really good option for some of these assets that we have instead of trying to make a few bucks on it on a. 04:04:34
On an auction site so. 04:04:38
Any questions or comments? 04:04:40
Make a motion to. 04:04:45
Approve the dispositional. 04:04:47
That's April 2, Flat Rock. 04:04:49
VFW. 04:04:51
I'd like to make the motion to. 04:04:52
Donate Dodge. 04:04:54
4500 chassis. 04:04:56
2 Flat Flat Rock Volunteer Fire Department. 04:04:58
Second call please. 04:05:03
Commissioner. 04:05:07
Yes. 04:05:09
Thank you. 04:05:14
Thank you guys. Appreciate. 04:05:15
Appreciate you all right consideration of the point of Lincoln County OES Mobile. 04:05:17
Command unit. 04:05:22
We want German fisheries commissioners. Aaron Drew, one emergency services director. 04:05:25
So what we're asking for here is to participate in two different parades. 04:05:31
Two different sides of the county, one here encourage. Those are one in Ruidoso. 04:05:36
Using the mobile command unit. 04:05:40
We've been really trying to press making a presence out in the public, getting some of our assets into these parades, public 04:05:41
events, stuff like that, making sure that. 04:05:45
People know who we are, where we are. 04:05:50
And what we do? 04:05:52
And so that's what we're asking for today is just to participate in these grades using our mobile. 04:05:53
What are the dates of those parades? 04:05:59
The dates of these parades. 04:06:03
So the Carrizozo Community Festival parade will be September 27th. 04:06:04
And the Aspen Fest parade is October 4th. 04:06:09
Are you actually going to be driving this in the parade or you're going to be set up to help with? 04:06:13
No, we'll actually drive it in the parade and then if there is opportunities after the parade and or before the parade to set up 04:06:17
and talk to the public, stuff like that, we do that as well. 04:06:21
So this is more of your community outreach? 04:06:27
Yes. 04:06:30
Nice if we had a county float. 04:06:34
In the parade. 04:06:36
Slot on the agenda? 04:06:39
Which we do have a county float in the parade. 04:06:42
So. 04:06:47
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 04:06:48
Commissioner Thurman. 04:06:51
This is definitely something we can look at, is something on a morale standpoint. 04:06:53
That we can look at doing and getting some profession with. 04:06:57
And really get involved with some of our our larger parades so. 04:07:01
We'll start working on that. I do think that be a good outreach and we'll start looking at that. 04:07:05
So. 04:07:13
All right, so entertain a motion to approve the deployment. 04:07:14
The Lincoln County OS mobile command unit for two parades. 04:07:17
27 September for October. 04:07:21
Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion that we. 04:07:25
Approve the request for the mobile command to be. 04:07:28
Like or carriers? Also community festival and the asking feed. 04:07:30
We'll call Madam Clerk. 04:07:35
Please Commissioner Sharma. 04:07:40
Commissioner Wilson, Yes. Mr. Carter, Yes. Commissioner Fraiser? Aye, Sure. Fisher. 04:07:43
All right. Thank you. 04:07:48
OK, let's get 5. We already took care of that. 04:07:54
Consideration of Resolution 2025-0. 04:07:57
Which is the 2025 budget? 04:08:01
Adjustments. 04:08:03
Billy Joe, finance Director and Sherry. 04:08:15
Pressure. We're here to. 04:08:17
Asked for approval on resolution 2026. 04:08:19
Learning or budget adjustment for September? 04:08:23
Do you want us to go through the resolution? 04:08:30
No, I don't. You need to read a resolution. Let's talk about. 04:08:33
What you're doing there? 04:08:36
So the first part, in the general fund, we have insurance recovery of 2800. 04:08:40
That we're adjusting the budget and then also the building maintenance that. 04:08:46
Commission approved last month for the HVAC for the health office for 160 we're drawing down. 04:08:50
From the General Fund. 04:08:56
And then the Senior Center received a New Mexico. And so money coming in, money going out. 04:08:57
Some other questions. 04:09:06
Mr. Chairman, no, I don't have any comments on this. This is just so you know. 04:09:21
The process that we've established. 04:09:25
Is as we bring budget adjustments to you for your approval. 04:09:28
Then they will return the following meeting in a form of a resolution to approve so that it's. 04:09:32
Done further. 04:09:37
That you. So that's why we're kind of establishing this. 04:09:38
Thank you very much. 04:09:43
Entertain a motion to approve. 04:09:45
Budget adjustment. 04:09:48
Is presented with the. 04:09:52
Different resolution numbers for what's on the agenda is at 2026. 04:09:56
2026 at the fiscal year we upgrade all of our. 04:10:02
Resolutions. 04:10:05
Oh, that one. 04:10:07
Mr. Chair, I move to approve Resolution 2026-20. 04:10:10
Have a second. 04:10:14
9:00. 04:10:17
Commissioner Wilson. Commissioner Chavez. Commissioner Freitas. 04:10:21
Aye, Commissioner Serna. 04:10:25
Chair Fischer. 04:10:27
Aye, Motion. 04:10:28
OK, now we're the. 04:10:31
Non action items discussion only. 04:10:32
And this is the county. 04:10:37
Where we are king. 04:10:42
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 04:10:44
So how about? 04:10:45
Us to come up here and this is. 04:10:49
During our last meeting, we didn't really get the opportunity to. 04:10:51
Go through our projects in depth. 04:10:55
Are not in depth with at least a little more detail. 04:10:57
We've been tracking our projects list. I have. 04:11:01
Moss and Jeff up here. 04:11:05
Cortana, help me go through some of these and Brian sitting in the wings. 04:11:07
As we go through this, the first thing. 04:11:13
So Jeff and Brian? 04:11:16
To go through is our FEMA status and we're right with all of our. 04:11:21
FEMA projects and recovery on that. 04:11:24
You want to do it first. 04:11:27
Chairman Fisher. 04:11:32
Mrs. Brian Sampson, like the County Emergency Services Coordinator. 04:11:33
The list I bring before you today is. 04:11:37
It's our costs, you calling me a sea cost. It's our up-to-date what we spent more or less on this disaster. 04:11:40
I sandbagged material filled for sandbags. 04:11:47
Swift water gear for the Sheriff's Department. 04:11:50
And road signs. 04:11:53
And then the first round of the trash track cleanup is here. 04:11:55
So on there I have. 04:11:59
Our total so. 04:12:02
We'd be getting reimbursed $97,383. 04:12:04
At 75%. 04:12:09
Of that total cost. 04:12:10
So everything that we've spent out of this disaster. 04:12:14
Fun so far is reimbursed. 04:12:17
How do I? How do I? 04:12:19
See that? 04:12:21
On this? Is it on this list? It's not on that list, Sir. It's coming with curveball at you. 04:12:22
So here's our current disaster. 04:12:27
Recovery. 04:12:30
You have two purchases of sandbags. 04:12:32
Swift water gear for Sheriff's Office 1 rotor signs. 04:12:34
And then your trash rack clean up for 129,000. 04:12:38
Here's our current exchange rate. 04:12:44
What, Sir? 04:12:46
No, I'm just. 04:12:48
So what? What does that come out of? 04:12:50
Trash rack clean up. 04:12:54
So our trash rack cleanup this has all been currently paid out of. Here's your current trash wrapping sediment removal cost. 04:12:55
This is out of our. 04:13:03
Disaster recovery fund. 04:13:05
This was what we ended up doing on this. 04:13:07
What We've had our meeting and I can't remember the exact date where we had approved the disaster declaration. 04:13:10
And we decided that we needed to go ahead and move on the track. Track clean up now. 04:13:19
We had an existing PO from 4795. 04:13:23
That we ultimately canceled out and had about $512,000 on it. 04:13:26
We cancelled that one out and issued a new PO. 04:13:32
For about. 04:13:35
Almost exactly the same amount. 04:13:36
We've extended this amount. 04:13:38
So far. 04:13:40
And it's under 48. 04:13:42
86 yes or 4886? 04:13:43
We have currently shut down the trash rack cleanup and the sediment removal. 04:13:47
Waiting on $5.8 million that we received today. 04:13:52
We can talk to Superintendent Honeycook. 04:13:57
About the necessity for any additional cleanup. 04:14:00
But this is what we've got to date. 04:14:04
Thus far. 04:14:06
And which seems like we've got everything. 04:14:07
Pretty much in hand. 04:14:09
Is low under 4886? Yes Sir. 04:14:12
We're done with. 04:14:15
The previous one. 04:14:17
As far as disaster recovery. 04:14:19
Disaster, the emergency expenditures is all on 4886. 04:14:22
Now we still are working. 04:14:26
Through 4795. 04:14:29
And 4652 on some mitigation projects. 04:14:32
Which we're working through with them right now. 04:14:35
The current conversation and maybe Jeff can speak to this a little more. 04:14:38
Is they're considering rolling all of the 4795 projects in the 4886 projects? 04:14:42
So that's what's 4795 is that McBride? 04:14:48
Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Serna 4652 would be the McBride fire. 04:14:58
And that would be Homestead Lube. 04:15:02
Janet Drive, Edward Dr. 04:15:04
Prospects. 04:15:06
Parsons and those roadways there along Gavilan. 04:15:07
4795 would be what happened with the Palms in the South Fork. 04:15:12
Fires and flood. 04:15:17
And now we're in the flooding from those events, which is 4886. 04:15:18
And they are discussing moving everything from 4795 that we did last year into 4886, which is now. 04:15:23
And we're addressing it as a project. 04:15:31
Under that. 04:15:34
Double event. 04:15:35
We're not talking about disaster recovery now. 04:15:38
Disaster recovery for 40. 04:15:43
795 is done. 04:15:44
Emergency response. Emergency disaster. Yes. 04:15:49
Emergency response. That's correct. So what would you be moving from? 04:15:53
4795 to. 04:15:57
4886 OK. 04:15:59
We have Chairman Fisher, we have. 04:16:01
Everything that was destroyed along Cedar Creek. 04:16:04
Culverts. Roadway. 04:16:07
All of those types of things that we. 04:16:11
They wanted us to put back to. 04:16:13
Pre disaster condition. 04:16:15
That was 4795. 04:16:16
No, that's going to be 4886 because it has gotten worse with the events that we've had since that time. 04:16:19
The different flooding events that's happened. 04:16:24
Week after week after week. 04:16:27
So now they're talking about all of those things that we had already documented and put into the FEMA format. 04:16:29
Moving to 4886 so we can get additional monies for what has happened since last year. 04:16:34
So so just the following. 04:16:41
Follow that train of thought. So. 04:16:44
I think what you've got here in this this spreadsheet is. 04:16:47
Powerful. 04:16:51
Maybe I don't see it. 04:16:54
But it would be nice to know. 04:16:55
What tranche of money? 04:16:57
These different. 04:16:59
Projects are under. 04:17:00
I know you don't have that right now, but I know you guys could get it. 04:17:03
And the reason why that I think that's important is because it helps us. 04:17:06
In our budget process, it helps us in going after money and raising cane with. 04:17:12
DHSC and FEMA, whoever you know. 04:17:18
So if you could. 04:17:20
Guys could provide that then we can kind of understand. 04:17:22
When we go up to Santa Fe or wherever we're going in our meetings, I can take this deal and. 04:17:26
Say, you know, hey, you know, we're spending this much money and we're going to need this. 04:17:32
Out of this particular fund, yes, Sir. So, Mr. Chairman, just so you know. 04:17:36
We are in the process of getting you and I apologize we didn't have it ready and printed for you today. 04:17:40
In the future, we'll try to make this part of your packet so you have a chance to look at it. 04:17:45
Here's all of our grants. 04:17:50
We're currently tracking and amusing. 04:17:51
And they do have the FEMA grants or recovery efforts and funding. 04:17:55
We also have the HB1 money identified. 04:18:01
Then I did see us debris removal. 04:18:03
Technical assistance. 04:18:06
A real safe program that we're chasing. 04:18:08
This is our Lincoln County Courthouse, Ada. That's the CDBG we. 04:18:12
The submitted for. 04:18:17
Regional Training Center. Center. 04:18:19
Congressional federal money. 04:18:21
As well as we're going after some. 04:18:23
Outdoor Recreation grant money on this. 04:18:28
Our National Archives grant so. 04:18:32
This is this is very much a living document. The other the other large one that. 04:18:34
I wanted to point out. 04:18:38
Is an EDA disaster Grant that Ross can talk a little more about that. We identified Devils Canyon. 04:18:40
We're going after. 04:18:45
78 million dollars 7. 04:18:46
On that one, so I'll let y'all speak to that. 04:18:49
I'm familiar with that grant. 04:18:51
Doesn't create jobs. 04:18:56
Chairman Fisher, just to touch on the the projects list one up. 04:18:57
We are using for the first three projects Cedar Creek, Musket Ball intersection, Cedar Creek Half Circle and Cedar Creek. 04:19:01
Jarrett Loop. That'll all be HB1 money. 04:19:07
Is the way we're approaching those. 04:19:10
Fight off the bat. 04:19:13
And the rest of this stuff that you'll see down below is a lot of that is a FEMA. 04:19:14
The Warrior Drive Project. I've talked with Kristen Russo yesterday. 04:19:19
There's still no movement from FEMA on that project was $2.4 million. 04:19:23
No, no movement on that at all. 04:19:28
And I am working on. 04:19:31
After speaking with the manager, I'm working on the generators for the. 04:19:34
Courthouse here, and also the. 04:19:39
Senior centers. 04:19:41
So I will be working on those. 04:19:42
And getting the estimates that they had already, kind of. 04:19:45
Started on. 04:19:47
And working with the engineer to get this building engineer to find out exactly what it is we need. 04:19:48
So we can provide the correct. 04:19:53
Besides General and that includes the dispatch to share. Yes it will. 04:19:55
That will be. 04:19:59
Everything for that and I'll be working on that stuff here. 04:20:00
I started on that last week and we should have some movement here in the next few weeks hopefully. 04:20:03
But that is a FEMA project as well. 04:20:08
So, so let's let's let's keep this in mind. 04:20:11
This document that you guys are putting together. 04:20:14
Is exceptional. 04:20:17
We've never had it. 04:20:18
You're going to generate. As a result of this, you're going to have. 04:20:20
Half educated commissioners. 04:20:23
Looking at it. 04:20:25
And asking more questions. 04:20:26
Don't be afraid of those. 04:20:28
That's that's. 04:20:30
That's what our job is about, so appreciate it very much. 04:20:32
Well, the efforts that you're doing and don't take the questions as. 04:20:36
Saying, what are you guys doing? No, now we kind of know a little bit. 04:20:39
You're doing that allows us to be more engaged. 04:20:45
As elected officials. And so it's very important, very much appreciated. 04:20:48
Thank you. You're welcome. 04:20:52
I have something else so so. 04:20:57
So how about? 04:20:59
How about that? 04:21:00
DRCDRC is. 04:21:02
FEMA, right? FEMA is paying for them. 04:21:04
Actually, Chairman Fisher, DRC is, is with the DHS, EO yeah, they're getting their money from FEMA and they do. They do get that 04:21:07
funded that way and they have opened that. 04:21:12
Window up a little bit further for the. 04:21:17
For them to go out and do some. 04:21:19
Other things that they weren't doing originally. Originally they were moving stuff from just the right of way. 04:21:21
And now we're kind of expanding that. 04:21:26
And working with John Moon. 04:21:28
And trying to get those projects taken care of. I know we spoke about 1. 04:21:30
You know, late last week. So the question is who? 04:21:34
Who is? 04:21:38
Building these projects for that. 04:21:39
That company to to do I mean chairman Fisher commissioners before. 04:21:41
It was a. 04:21:47
Driven a lot by NRCS. 04:21:48
And moving forward, that will be driven a lot by the county. 04:21:51
He spent a lot of phone calls. 04:21:58
I do. 04:22:00
Yes, Sir. 04:22:02
Yeah, I aim to be. 04:22:05
But those projects will be driven by the county and we'll have our hand into that and. 04:22:10
Yeah, so. 04:22:15
That's that's very good. 04:22:16
And those projects will include serving the village in the Downs, too, right? 04:22:18
Yeah, sure they do. OK. 04:22:24
OK, that's good. 04:22:26
Do we have a? Don't. 04:22:29
King Industries, what are they playing on this? Because I know. 04:22:30
That they were supposed to be managing this stuff with. 04:22:34
Well, Mr. Chairman, Commissioner, if you would let me do this one. 04:22:36
I have passed. 04:22:41
We're Superintendent Honeycutt. 04:22:42
And Emergency Services Coordinator. 04:22:44
Brian. 04:22:46
They're going to be our lead on this from now on and direct. 04:22:47
King Industry does our consultant. 04:22:50
The county needs to be the one managing this and at the tip of the spear. 04:22:54
We don't need to be allowed. 04:22:57
Consultants to speak for us. 04:22:58
So we're going to have Superintendent Honeycutt, Brian. 04:23:00
They'll be managing our contractors and consultants from Ellen. 04:23:03
Period. 04:23:06
So it's been very much engaged in this and we'll be preparing, submitting the paperwork. 04:23:08
Consulting with the county. 04:23:13
But with that, the management aspect will come from. 04:23:15
Superintendent Honeycutt and. 04:23:18
Mr. Bryan. 04:23:20
OK, so So what sort of? 04:23:22
Communication Plan. 04:23:25
Coordination. 04:23:27
Do we need with the other entities that will obviously be working with? 04:23:29
The village. 04:23:34
The Downs. 04:23:35
In the county, how do you want to do this? 04:23:36
So, Mr. Chairman. 04:23:39
We stay in real close contact with all of. 04:23:42
Entities. 04:23:44
And I think we talked to Julie multiple times a week. 04:23:45
I know we spoke with the village as they. 04:23:49
Champion there. 04:23:52
Its own priorities. 04:23:53
And they they also, and as it pertains to FEMA. 04:23:56
And other projects. 04:23:59
We try to stay in support and partner with all their things as much as they try to support and partner us. 04:24:02
As far as the FEMA aspect goes. 04:24:09
They both have their individual consultants. 04:24:11
And we really just try to make sure that we're not stepping on each other when it comes to. 04:24:15
I don't want to say getting each other's way because it ultimately ends up being. 04:24:21
You know, one line, but make sure we're not all working on the same thing at the same time. 04:24:25
German. I really perceive this. 04:24:30
Kind of playing out before NRCS would play. 04:24:33
Identify projects and it would be brought to our attention as we kind of give the OK. 04:24:36
I see a similar type process taking place working with King Industries and. 04:24:41
And Mr. Fox that now works for King Industry that used to be within RCS. 04:24:45
Will identify the projects and the requests from the different entities and will evaluate those. 04:24:50
And then we'll bring those to the table and make a decision how we want to move forward. 04:24:54
So whether to be direct contact with me? 04:24:58
100% of the time. 04:25:01
I don't know. I'm, I'm sure that will happen a lot, but I'll still work through King Industries and Mr. Boss on a lot of the NRCS 04:25:03
stuff because he's so familiar with it. 04:25:08
He did it for years. 04:25:12
So that's an asset for me. 04:25:14
Yeah. 04:25:15
You know, look truncate this. 04:25:17
This conversation because I know we have to move on, but. 04:25:20
I I just see. 04:25:23
My experience with the village. 04:25:25
Not not to down so much to. 04:25:26
An evacuous but. 04:25:29
Village. 04:25:30
They're going to have a very. 04:25:32
Strong movement. 04:25:33
To to take resources from the DRC, which is. 04:25:36
The DHSM. 04:25:40
And and I just want to make sure that that somehow we adjudicate and balance that out. 04:25:43
So that they feel like they're being. 04:25:48
Not underserved, but. 04:25:50
In some sort of reasonable prioritization with the county. 04:25:52
So that's a big. 04:25:56
That's a big way to put on your shoulders. 04:25:57
Because you're going to have to convince them. 04:25:59
That you have their best interests. 04:26:01
At heart. 04:26:04
As well as the whole county. So it's a big deal and. 04:26:06
I wish you luck. 04:26:09
Updates for us, Yeah, I wanted to speak to the behavioral health. 04:26:12
Grant program. 04:26:16
So I was contacted several weeks ago by the Otero Health. 04:26:17
Director, uh. 04:26:21
And she talked to me about a grant program that involves several regions of the state. 04:26:22
Otero, Mescalero and Lincoln County. 04:26:27
Are grouped as region 12. 04:26:30
And she asked if we would be interested in being the accountable entity. 04:26:32
I I told her we would after talking to the county manager, and what that involves is us being the fiscal agent. 04:26:37
And scheduling the meetings. 04:26:43
And being really. 04:26:45
Part of the narrative writing. 04:26:47
A portion of the. 04:26:49
The project It's a $45,000 grant. 04:26:51
Basically. 04:26:54
Gives us the money to have meetings. 04:26:55
And put the document together. That's what it's for. 04:26:59
And then later in 2027 as part of I think SP3. 04:27:01
Much dispersed to each of these regional. 04:27:06
Behavioral Programs. 04:27:09
For whatever the consensus of the group. 04:27:11
This size, I believe there's five categories. I don't know them off the top of my head, but. 04:27:14
It's for the for the two counties and muscular to decide on what those categories are. 04:27:18
Develop a plan. 04:27:23
And then hopefully get the money later to implement that plan. 04:27:25
So Taro had a meeting last week, they kind of tabled it because they had concerns about. 04:27:29
Lincoln County being the. 04:27:34
Accountable entity because they thought the courts wanted to do it. 04:27:36
And after conversations with. 04:27:39
Otero and the Quartz. 04:27:42
Monday, they met in a special session and decided that it would be best for Lincoln County to be the accountable entity. 04:27:43
So we're going to be having our first meeting. 04:27:50
On the 30th of this month. Right now it's limited. 04:27:52
And I was. 04:27:55
Making a request to you to see if anybody on the commissioners would be interested in being a representative of the commissioners 04:27:56
because. 04:28:00
Some of these meetings. 04:28:05
Commissioner Borrello, I believe. 04:28:08
IS is acting as a representative for the county. 04:28:10
And we still have yet to reach muscular. 04:28:13
Well, we we, we, we. 04:28:21
We do want to have somebody. I think we need to talk about it. 04:28:22
Talk about it and get back to you. 04:28:27
Very good, we will provide. 04:28:29
Somebody. 04:28:31
To represent us. 04:28:36
Very good. OK. 04:28:36
That's all I have. 04:28:38
So a few projects I wanted to touch on real quick. 04:28:41
Our wildland urban interface barriers. 04:28:45
Kind of like we stated earlier. 04:28:48
Any day. 04:28:49
It's still legal review, I've texted Nick. Smoke control. We've been sitting here. 04:28:50
We're we're moving on that well. 04:28:54
Laura Golf is going to be the administrator. We're actually making progress. 04:28:57
Lord Doff is going to help us administer this with her established process. She's hired a Forester that's going to act on our 04:29:01
behalf. 04:29:04
In conjunction with the state's Forester. 04:29:09
We also talked with. 04:29:12
Aaron and. 04:29:14
Firefighter Luna that are going to be helping us on our aspect of fire safety. 04:29:17
And. 04:29:20
They're going to be going out with the contractors that we select. 04:29:21
Going to the private properties and we're going to probably go ahead and kick this off now knowing that it's. 04:29:24
Coming any day. 04:29:29
And having a few properties. 04:29:31
Ready to go? 04:29:32
So as soon as that funding becomes available and we can. 04:29:33
Extend it. We're going to start working. 04:29:36
The good thing about this is as long as there's not too much snow on the ground, I don't think we can be cutting trees year round. 04:29:40
There, We will do a kickoff on this and we're going to go ahead and start this process. 04:29:47
To help. 04:29:51
Nudge that wall. 04:29:51
Our Sierra Blanca regional training center. 04:29:54
We've made some pretty decent headway on this. The same as. 04:29:56
Growing into a facility that's. 04:29:58
We can be proud of. 04:30:00
What I'd like to do is here at the next meeting or maybe in November if we get this thing put together. 04:30:02
Because we want to bring you some layoffs and we want to bring you a proposal for a plan. 04:30:06
And how not only this thing is laid out, but how it pays for itself. This thing is to generate revenue. 04:30:10
Because the last thing we need to do is go spend. 04:30:15
5 to $10 million. 04:30:17
On an asset that we can't maintain. 04:30:19
So we'll bring you a full plan on that for discussion here in the upcoming months. 04:30:21
Do you have a parcel of land identified? We're going to bring you some options we have. 04:30:25
Two options that we've identified. 04:30:29
Both have pros and cons. 04:30:32
That we need to bring in and discuss. 04:30:34
So technically 3 so. 04:30:36
We need to bring those to you with the layouts. 04:30:39
And decide. 04:30:41
Where those go? 04:30:43
So. 04:30:45
The Firewise communities, we have a proposal that's going to be submitted to the state for that. 04:30:48
We were going to let him go ahead and fund the 5 million before we asked him for another two, But the Firewise communities would 04:30:52
talk with Aaron. 04:30:55
On this this is going to be the one that we. 04:30:58
Essentially are building off of ward off program. 04:31:01
To where we can go into private properties throughout your community as an application process and start pinning. 04:31:04
Private properties within communities. 04:31:10
And so that that that. 04:31:13
That his hand in glove with the Ibn chest standards, right? 04:31:15
Yes. 04:31:18
That's what we're shooting for, Aaron. 04:31:19
Yes, that is what we're shooting for. There is not much difference about that is. 04:31:21
Is the private insurance piece. 04:31:25
Right, so eventually you want to be able to. 04:31:28
Certify. 04:31:32
Piece of property. It says it meets I BHS standards. Really. No kidding. 04:31:33
They can have that certificate and go get their own private insurance. 04:31:37
Yes. 04:31:41
That ought to be that. 04:31:43
The goal, the direction you're going, that is the primary goal for that program is to get insurance rates. 04:31:44
Back down and improve our ISO's so that our insurance rates can. 04:31:50
Start being available again. 04:31:54
Has there been any discussion with the village of Redo so as they? 04:31:56
Start issuing new permits for rebuild in the burn scar. 04:31:59
To encourage IVH standards. 04:32:04
Madam Commissioner, we have not had that specific. 04:32:09
Conversation with them having jurisdiction of our permanent agent, that'd be important. That's the conversation that we're having 04:32:13
right now. 04:32:16
Is how that works because we're still having issues on. 04:32:19
That process working. 04:32:23
We will bring that back to you because we've got at some point have that conversation on how. 04:32:27
That's going to work. 04:32:32
There's some questions regarding. 04:32:33
So. 04:32:35
The other few projects I wanted to touch real quick is our ambulance barn over here. 04:32:40
We are moving forward with that. 04:32:44
We did sign the agreement. 04:32:45
For the capital outlay for the 650,000 and we're talking to contractors about trying to get prices on that. 04:32:47
On how we're going to procure that? 04:32:53
And. 04:32:55
Get that project moving, I know. 04:32:56
The Miss Nunley is looking forward to that. 04:32:57
So that she can move into her facility that fits what she needs. 04:33:01
And then the fairgrounds with the covered arena. 04:33:05
We are working with the engineer to try to get you a master plan and a conceptual and budget estimates. 04:33:08
So that we can bring that back. 04:33:13
Fitted within the grant. 04:33:14
And make that a really good facility for everybody. 04:33:16
Especially with the. 04:33:19
Call JoJo team starting a practice there and want to bring in some really nice events. We want to have a facility that we can 04:33:20
additionally draw people to the county. 04:33:24
When you say covered arena, what do you mean? 04:33:29
Covered with a hole in the middle. 04:33:33
Fairgrounds improvements We're we're. 04:33:35
Stay undiscovered, yes? 04:33:39
Over there, we'll bring you those conceptual. 04:33:41
These capital outlay projects in the Treasury report are showing 0 expenditure. 04:33:45
What is your plan to get that? 04:33:50
Those funds expended before our new capital outlay request, which means are you referring to with? 04:33:52
Well, it has zero in her. 04:33:57
Spent but the. 04:34:01
Ambulance. 04:34:03
And the crime scene vehicle. 04:34:04
How close, Jill? 04:34:06
So I can speak to the crime scene vehicle. I know we got a phone call yesterday, things on its way back from Edgewood yesterday. 04:34:08
So that one's going to be hopefully fully expended. We need to look through the. 04:34:14
Paperwork. Make sure we've done that correctly. 04:34:17
The ambulance bar and I can tell you there's there's two grants that there was 100,000 we've got a couple years ago and then we 04:34:20
got the additional 650 this year. 04:34:23
We've expended the. 04:34:27
Kind of a portion of that 100,000 on engineering. 04:34:31
Because we have to engineer the foundations of the building. 04:34:34
And the utility hookup. So we actually have expended a little portion of that. 04:34:37
And we have not put the 6:50 in the budget yet as we're waiting on the signed agreement back from DFA. 04:34:40
So as soon as we get those, the projects are already moving forward and we'll have those extended before the expiration date. 04:34:46
The only other one we're waiting on right now, which we should see any day, is the strategic water. 04:34:52
Resources. 04:34:59
We've talked to Ross and Aaron. 04:35:01
What they're going to do now on those is get those essentially scoped. 04:35:03
And have a. 04:35:07
Per each. 04:35:09
Instance on that and try to expend that $1,000,000 as much as we can so they have a. 04:35:10
Dollar amount to do each one of those so that hopefully we can stretch out as far as we can. 04:35:15
So as soon as we sign that one and get it in the budget, we'll have to spend. 04:35:20
Will be asking about the rationale for the picking of those sites. 04:35:23
Yes, Sir, and we'll be able to explain that. I know that's something they looked at. 04:35:26
In conjunction with Superintendent Honeycutt several times on how we're going to keep those. 04:35:30
Pleniston Pool, where they're going. 04:35:34
And they're going to bring you a map. I think they already have a map. 04:35:36
Speaking of water, what's the deal with? 04:35:40
Kathy Tan, do we know? 04:35:43
That's got that bill handled. 04:35:47
I'm waiting. 04:35:52
We don't talk about it because it might change, Sir. 04:35:53
Chairman Fisher Commissioners, there's been no change to the bulk water sales for Capitan right as we speak. 04:35:58
Currently they're working with us and we're getting it for the fairgrounds and we, yeah. 04:36:06
I expect some change, I just wasn't sure whether it happened or not. 04:36:12
No, not. Not yet. Not officially. 04:36:16
That's still status quo. 04:36:20
The only other one I was going to mention is our real estate program. 04:36:22
We did do a presentation on that during the. 04:36:26
Regional task force meeting last week. It went very well. We. 04:36:30
Push that out to the public. 04:36:33
Just to let everyone know that we do have this program. 04:36:35
Drafted in our. 04:36:38
Pursuing it. 04:36:39
We are going to have a public meeting. 04:36:42
We initially scheduled it for. 04:36:45
The 9th, but we're looking at the 8. 04:36:48
So it doesn't conflict with other events currently scheduled for that night. 04:36:51
So as soon as we establish that date. 04:36:55
We will get that out. 04:36:58
And make sure everyone knows about it so we can have good attendance on that. 04:36:59
So that people can come and ask questions and. 04:37:03
Let them know what we're doing. 04:37:06
******* so. 04:37:09
Sorry for projects, I think that's all I have for projects. You got anything on? 04:37:14
Did the sheriff get his his vehicle to vehicles? 04:37:23
Get your vehicles yet. My understanding is they're in upfitting. 04:37:26
They're here, but now it's time for the updating. It went directly from the dealer. We're getting there all right. 04:37:32
Yeah, you're getting 4. 04:37:40
11 outfitted for the. 04:37:45
Yes. 04:37:48
OK, Mr. Chair, anything else we expect to have an allocation. 04:37:50
Notice whether or not we get to see the G money on or about. 04:37:57
MMM. 04:38:03
So you feel good about it? You got good juju or bad? I feel like we did a very good grant application. There's a lot of people. 04:38:05
There's about 16 applicants for about $15 million so. 04:38:12
I don't know. We'll see. 04:38:17
I think I think we wrote up a great application. 04:38:19
Match. No match no match. 04:38:27
Wow, that's real good. 04:38:29
And you know that picture that that. 04:38:31
That artists. 04:38:34
Rendering of. 04:38:35
The proposed facade. 04:38:36
It it'd be worthwhile putting that up somewhere. 04:38:38
It in here, you know. 04:38:42
For the problem OK. 04:38:43
This work it's good on. 04:38:46
Yes, that happens pretty. It's pretty neat, I think. 04:38:48
Alright, I'll accept. 04:38:52
If that's it. 04:38:53
We're done. I'll set the motion to. 04:38:54
Read. 04:38:57
To go into. 04:39:00
Recess for the executive session. 04:39:04
Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that we go into executive session. 04:39:07
Second Clerk. 04:39:11
Mr. Wilson, Commissioner Trader. 04:39:18
Aye, aye. 04:39:22
We're in executive session. I don't anticipate this being. 04:39:25
Closing meeting. We're limited to those specified and no action was taken. 04:39:29
Take something. 04:39:34
Thank you very much. 04:39:37
OK, we're now in regular session. 04:39:44
We I'll. 04:39:49
Entertain a motion to. 04:39:51
Approve entering into additional potential settlements from the opioid class action lawsuits. 04:39:53
Some of Mr. Kenneth. 04:40:01
2nd. 04:40:03
Madam Clerk, when you're ready. 04:40:06
If you please. 04:40:07
Commissioner Wilson, Yes. Commissioner Sharma? Aye. Mr. Chavez? Yes. Commissioner aye. Chair Fisher. 04:40:08
Hi. 04:40:14
Next meeting will be. 04:40:17
On Tuesday, October 21st, 2025, unless we have. 04:40:18
Any opportunity for workshop before then? 04:40:24
When will you be back? 04:40:28
I'll be back Monday the 29th. 04:40:30
OK. So I think sometime in between there. 04:40:33
We should have a workshop so we can talk about this and take action on the 21st. You agree? 04:40:36
OK, we'll we'll figure that out. 04:40:42
I need a motion to adjourn. 04:40:45
Make a motion to adjourn. 04:40:47
Please MADLER, Clerk. 04:40:51
Roll call. 04:40:54
Commissioner Wilson. Commissioner Sharma. 04:40:56
Commissioner Chavez. 04:40:58
Yes, Mr. Fraser, Aye, Sir, Fisher. 04:40:59
Aye. 04:41:02
Yes, we do. 04:41:07
Well, thank you guys so much. Thank you. 04:41:10
Once you figure out what we want, and that's after we figure. 04:41:15
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Test I'm not picking up. 00:00:07
Test, test, test, test. 00:00:12
Are you on Commission meeting September 16th? 00:00:19
2025. 00:00:22
Test. 00:00:24
Morning. 00:00:31
Today is Tuesday, September 16th, 2025. 00:00:32
08/30. 00:00:36
I'm going to call to order this meeting of the Lincoln County. 00:00:37
Board of county. 00:00:40
Madam Clerk will call, please. 00:00:42
Commissioner Serna. 00:00:45
Here, Commissioner Fraser. 00:00:46
Here, Commissioner Chavez, here Commissioner Wilson. 00:00:47
President, Chair Fischer. 00:00:50
Here. 00:00:52
The Commissioner Sarna do like endocaine, please. 00:00:54
Heavenly Father, as a nation we pause to remember the pain. 00:00:58
Of September 11th. 00:01:06
And other moments when violence is struck our people and our principles. 00:01:08
These events remind us how fragile freedom can be. 00:01:12
Yeah, how strong we are when united under the values of our Constitution. 00:01:15
We ask you, Lord, to guide us as leaders. 00:01:19
And bless our community. 00:01:22
And to bless the United States with wisdom, courage, and peace. 00:01:23
Amen. Amen. 00:01:27
Please. 00:01:30
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation. 00:01:37
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:01:42
Perfect friendship. 00:01:48
Thank you very much. 00:01:52
I would like to entertain a motion to approve the agenda. 00:01:58
The ability to move items is necessary. 00:02:02
Do you remember we approved his gender with sure making adjustments? 00:02:06
Roll call please. 00:02:18
Commissioner Wilson. 00:02:20
Commissioner Chano. Yes, Commissioner Chana. 00:02:21
Commissioner Frater, hi. 00:02:23
All right. Thank you. 00:02:26
So item number 2. 00:02:30
We've got. 00:02:32
Updates, reports and announcements, but specifically. 00:02:33
Want to do something? 00:02:36
To this community. 00:02:39
Life saving award presentations. 00:02:42
Sheriff Wood, if you. 00:02:45
With mine, Sir, please come down to the front. 00:02:47
The first award is for Deputy Brett McGuinness. 00:03:15
Deputy McGinnis and you and Sheriff, please. 00:03:23
Call Dennis at the front. 00:03:25
Apologize for the delay. 00:03:27
Coming up here, this is kind of cool. This is a. 00:03:31
Doing these lifesaver awards, they truly mean an awful lot to us. 00:03:34
They mean that. 00:03:38
At some point in time. 00:03:40
In our lives, somebody was spared, and that's exactly what happened here. 00:03:42
I'll lay the groundwork for you. I'll have to refresh my memory. 00:03:46
Put a little bit. This is Deputy McGinnis. 00:03:51
Brett McGuinness. 00:03:54
Many of you know we're. 00:03:55
Rest of your family. 00:03:57
My mother and my brother are doing. 00:03:58
Nice looking family families been here forever and ever. 00:04:01
Alright, so I'm going to lay the groundwork for you. Deputy McGinnis is on duty one night. 00:04:04
What time is it? 00:04:10
Uh, two, yeah. 00:04:11
That two 2:00 in the morning. 00:04:14
They dispatch him to a. 00:04:16
What they tell you is maybe a. 00:04:18
Possible drunk driver. 00:04:21
Something like that reckless driver. 00:04:23
At some point, he ends up out on US 70. 00:04:25
Again, keep in mind This Is Us 70. 00:04:30
About 2:00 in the morning, my marker 288 puts you. 00:04:32
Roughly San Patricio, something like that. 00:04:36
Hands up seeing a vehicle in the middle of park in the. 00:04:40
Outside lanes. 00:04:43
Incident in the hammer in the inside. So if they're in the inside. 00:04:44
The vehicle is lights are out. 00:04:49
Lights are on, but they're. 00:04:51
So he thinks maybe look at this right. So he. 00:04:54
Pulls in there and sure enough, there's a female sitting in the driver's seat. She's by herself. 00:04:57
Windows are up. She's not responding to him. 00:05:02
Any commands, instructions, anything like this? She is by herself. 00:05:06
At some point the decision is made, we're going to have to extract her from the vehicle we're on US 70. 00:05:10
Between Riddles and Roswell. 00:05:16
Not the best place to be. 00:05:18
Decisions made going to bust the window. 00:05:22
So it busts the window. 00:05:25
And tries to extract her. In doing so, she comes out of the vehicle. 00:05:27
When produced as a pistol. 00:05:31
And now she's. 00:05:33
Show us how she looks with the pistol here I'm using. 00:05:35
Oh yeah, so she's. 00:05:38
Literally right here. 00:05:41
All right, so if you know anything, we train constantly. 00:05:43
Constantly training. 00:05:46
For scenarios just like this. 00:05:48
Right in in this such a scenario the training would be. 00:05:51
You push off, right your pistol and you come out shooting. That's what you do. 00:05:54
What made her think at that moment in time? 00:06:00
This is going to be a good idea. 00:06:03
Or it's going to have a favorable outcome. Nobody's ever going to know. We don't know. 00:06:05
Distress. I'm not buying that when you look at a criminal history. 00:06:09
Business BS. 00:06:14
An elected got a kill. 00:06:16
And I can think of a. 00:06:18
Handful of individuals out there that I know personally. 00:06:19
Personally, it would have. 00:06:23
Probably done things a little bit differently. 00:06:25
So that night. 00:06:28
You actually saved a life. 00:06:30
What happened in those? 00:06:33
Split second. 00:06:34
Change that dynamic. 00:06:36
And I've been in his shoes in 32 years of this business. 00:06:39
I've never shouted anybody, never had to. 00:06:42
But I know what that feeling is like. I know when you see it. 00:06:45
It's like the story of, well, I've never seen a rattlesnake. You'll know. 00:06:48
The first time. 00:06:52
It's that feeling, OK, We're eye to eye. 00:06:54
Something here is about to happen. 00:06:56
And it may end up bad. 00:06:59
It's Showtime. 00:07:01
It's time to earn my check. 00:07:03
Yeah, man, did you and you saved the life that night, so. 00:07:05
I'm proud as oh, get out. 00:07:09
So this young man, he's a. 00:07:11
Bread brings to the scene. 00:07:13
A calm. Anyways, he's kind of one of those guys. When you show up, you think, all right. 00:07:15
When he shows up, things are going to be OK. 00:07:21
May not be the best. 00:07:23
That's the best outcome. 00:07:25
But when he shows up, you'll know he's going to make decisions that are thought out. 00:07:27
So we're just proud to say I love you. 00:07:30
We should all be proud of ourselves. 00:07:33
So it's I'm honored. 00:07:35
Sent you with the lifesaver. 00:07:39
Very good job we should all be very, very proud of. 00:07:59
Thank you. Thanks again. 00:08:04
Thank you, Sheriff. 00:08:12
Very, very wonderful. 00:08:15
The next Life Saving Award presentation is for firefighter Joseph Luna. 00:08:18
Commissioner Prater. 00:08:23
Present. 00:08:25
Good morning, everybody. 00:08:36
This is Joseph Luna. I'm going to read a citation that was that was written by his supervisor, Aaron Green. 00:08:38
On July 24th, 2025, while firefighter Joseph Luna was performing evacuations in Cedar Creek area due to flooding. 00:08:45
He observed a Gray and colored Jeep attempting to drive into the waters and attempts to leave the area after several attempts to 00:08:53
get the driver to stay where she was. 00:08:57
The Jeep continued into the water. 00:09:02
And began to sweep away. The driver of the Jeep then exited the vehicle. 00:09:04
And was swept away by the fast moving water firefighter Luna. 00:09:08
Without hesitation. 00:09:12
Exited his response unit and made several attempts to reach the individual despite being in waist deep. 00:09:14
Water. 00:09:19
Firefighter Luna was. 00:09:20
Finally able to make contact with the individual and using the current. 00:09:22
The current, to his advantage, pulled her from the water back to safety. Firefighters loop. 00:09:26
Clarify the Luna. 00:09:31
The actions on this day were very much worthy of recognition. 00:09:32
And we'd like to present him with. 00:09:36
A life saving award. Thank you. 00:09:37
I want to. 00:09:49
The Office of Emergency Services for, you know, these guys work. 00:09:52
Non-stop. 00:09:56
All day long so. 00:09:57
I want to thank you. 00:09:58
Wasn't that fun? 00:10:09
Yeah, that's fantastic. 00:10:11
So we got another special recognition, a little bit different, but. 00:10:13
That's very important. 00:10:17
This is for Matthew. 00:10:20
Beard Parks and Rec director, village of Rio de So. 00:10:21
And I'm going to have Mr. 00:10:25
Travis, Commissioner Chavez. 00:10:27
Through the presentation. 00:10:28
Please. 00:10:30
So we've been working. We have a bunch of indigent. 00:10:32
Urns that are in the annex office and. 00:10:38
We reached out to the village of Rugoso. 00:10:42
To see if they could help us with this and they graciously donated. 00:10:45
66 spots. 00:10:51
For earns. 00:10:54
And Matthew worked diligently. 00:10:56
On doing this. 00:10:59
Along with the. 00:11:00
Everybody. 00:11:02
In the line all the way up to the mirror. 00:11:04
So. 00:11:06
Want to thank you very much. 00:11:07
For for doing that. 00:11:09
For us and I, I really like working hand in hand with the village. 00:11:11
In a in a county. 00:11:16
That's fantastic. We appreciate that. You know, you, you. 00:11:26
We have these. 00:11:30
These folks out there. 00:11:31
Who are human beings? They're they're afforded dignity, like all of us. 00:11:33
And this particular. 00:11:38
Gift is. 00:11:40
From the village is going to allow us to afford those people. 00:11:42
But for whatever reason, don't have anybody to take care of them and take care of the remains the final resting place. 00:11:46
This is very extraordinarily helpful. 00:11:53
And. 00:11:57
Is worthy of. 00:11:57
Of recognition. Thank you. 00:11:58
OK, so now Chairman. 00:12:01
Yes. Would you like to say anything about it? I would just like to say it's great to partner with the. 00:12:04
With the county and thank you for the county Commission for having me here in this. Thank you but. 00:12:09
It's very important to us at the village also to give these people a final resting place and so. 00:12:14
Thank you for giving us that opportunity to work with you all to give these people. 00:12:18
The final resting place. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. 00:12:21
Let's go ahead. I think we're going to pause. 00:12:30
For some pictures, right? 00:12:32
Jason, we could do some picture and get all the commissioners and we'll do some. We'll take about 5 minutes for pictures. We're 00:12:34
going to recess for 5 minutes. 00:12:38
Keeps keeps the. 00:12:54
Keeps rolling. 00:12:57
No it doesn't. 00:12:58
It's not all the pictures. 00:13:03
Yes. 00:13:04
So the next thing we want to jump into really are public comments. 00:13:21
Invite anybody from the audience on any subject. 00:13:26
To to come up. 00:13:30
Present yourself here at the table so we can hear you identify yourself and. 00:13:31
We look forward to your comments. 00:13:36
Are there any? 00:13:41
Come on, somebody. 00:13:44
OK. 00:13:52
So the next thing will be external agency boards and committees. Lincoln County Detention Center. 00:13:57
Castleton here. I don't know if we have the detention center here. 00:14:05
OK, we'll skip that. 00:14:11
Lincoln County Medical Center Mr. Over. 00:14:13
Good morning, County commissioners Todd Overview Hospital chief executive, Lincoln County. 00:14:17
Give you an update on what's going on with the hospital. 00:14:23
A couple of big things on the horizon so I think most of y'all maybe have heard. 00:14:26
And thank you, Commissioner Serna, for being there in person. We did present to the village, Read also Planning Commission. 00:14:32
On the helipad. 00:14:39
It was approved unanimously from that, from that meeting. We do anticipate this will open tomorrow. 00:14:41
And I think there is a pre bed meeting. 00:14:49
Or I did. 00:14:52
Of meeting, you know, clarification from our architect on the 22nd. 00:14:54
So I'm hoping we're going to get this thing started before the end of the year, as you know. 00:14:59
Those y'all are in construction concrete and winters. Not always the easiest thing to do and that's what most of this project is, 00:15:03
is concrete. But. 00:15:06
We're going to be working on that to try to make that happen. 00:15:10
A couple other things, just to let you know what's going on. So I'm Doctor Kumar is an oncologist who will be starting with us on 00:15:13
October 7th. He'll be coming once a week. 00:15:17
We've seen a lot of growth in our oncology program and we want to continue to grow that. We've been supported out of Albuquerque, 00:15:23
out with Presbyterian. 00:15:27
Doctor Kumar will of course, be part of the Presbyterian group, but he is not faced with Albuquerque. He's actually based out of 00:15:31
Dallas and so, but he'll be coming in here once a week to help us out with that. 00:15:36
So we continue to grow that that program for the community as well. 00:15:41
One thing I don't know if I've ever. 00:15:47
I I think I shared maybe sometime last year after the fires, but I don't know if I talked about it. 00:15:50
I'm in relation to the flooding that happened. 00:15:55
Everyone of our employees that were impacted significantly by the floods. 00:15:59
In other words, either they lost their home or the fires, if we go back to last year. 00:16:03
It's about a total of 14 of our employees that either lost or has significant damage to their homes. So Presbyterian gave everyone 00:16:08
of those individuals $5000 cash just to. 00:16:13
To get their feet underneath them, you know, in the immediate aftermath. 00:16:18
And then we also any of them could submit receipts including when we had the evacuation back last year, but even this year for the 00:16:21
individuals that have. 00:16:25
Housing charges stuff that consumer receipts and received up to $2000 on top of that. 00:16:29
To help them with that and I just think it's a. 00:16:34
Thing that we don't hear a lot from. 00:16:36
You know what Presbyterian brings to the community, but that came from the system. Presbyterian to help out, but in addition to. 00:16:38
You know, contributions that were made to the Community Foundation bias as well, so. 00:16:45
Let's see what else I have. What's really important here. 00:16:52
Construction is continuing on the woman's clinic. 00:16:56
I'm anticipating it's going to be done in October. We really have run into a couple of things there's been. 00:16:59
Logistics and on certain things, especially if they're not made in US. 00:17:05
What we found, we saw that with the CT, I think I told you. 00:17:10
We had some boring back order and we finally got it in last Monday and so now we're waiting for the contractor installed boarding. 00:17:13
Once the boarding is installed, we think we can get this project moving pretty quickly. 00:17:18
I think October will probably be. 00:17:23
The likelihood that I'm hoping that this has been going on for a long time, but I think it's going to be the likelihood. 00:17:25
Then we'll be able to get that clinic up and going. So we do have to go through state process, state surveys will have to come in 00:17:32
and look at the building, make sure it meets life safety code and those type of things. But. 00:17:36
Hopefully we can. 00:17:42
Have everything submitted to him. You're not, so we can get that. 00:17:43
The last big item that I have is, oh, and one other thing, just so you know. So my role has changed at least on an interim basis 00:17:48
with the system to some extent. 00:17:53
The system has asked me to become the I don't know exactly what the how you say, but we'll just, we'll call it the coordinator 00:17:58
over the regional hospitals, the Presbyterian. 00:18:02
It is an interim position, but. 00:18:08
That effectively Clovis to compare Socorro, Espanol and Santa Fe will. 00:18:10
Have a reporting responsibility to me. 00:18:16
For a period of time. So I'm still the. 00:18:18
Chief executive here at Lincoln County, though, so that has not changed so well so. 00:18:21
The last thing is the least, that's the last, probably the biggest item out there. So I anticipate you, you will have a copy of 00:18:26
Jason and your attorney will have a copy with you probably the next week or so. 00:18:31
We've really finalized everything from my standpoint last week, just going through and trying to clean it up. 00:18:37
Our, our proposal is that we will offer an amendment and not a new lease. We did reach out to the state. The state was acceptable 00:18:42
to an amendment. We think that's going to be a much easier process and. 00:18:48
Going back and hammering this thing out for Ground Zero so. 00:18:54
So we'll be giving you, I think within maybe even this week, next week release, I think we'll have a copy of that proposal for 00:18:57
y'all to start considering. OK. And I'll stand for any questions. 00:19:02
Thank you, Sir. Thank you. Appreciate it. 00:19:13
I hope there's no. 00:19:15
Increase in pricing. 00:19:17
Because of Oh. 00:19:19
From. 00:19:23
I think that's more on my side than it is on yours, yeah. 00:19:25
Yeah. 00:19:28
So Warden Castleton. 00:19:30
Could you give us a report? 00:19:32
Good morning. Thank you. 00:19:35
My name is. 00:19:37
Gordon Castleton. 00:19:38
Gordon, Ross Appleton. 00:19:45
County Detention Center. 00:19:46
My computer wasn't. 00:19:48
My apologies for doing that. 00:19:53
Just for my update. 00:19:59
We've averaged right at 61 detainees for the last month. 00:20:02
We had 89. 00:20:08
People come through. 00:20:12
The gel processed. 00:20:13
Put in. 00:20:16
Our staffing, we continue to have some struggles there. 00:20:19
With maintaining our staffing levels, we have. 00:20:22
For correctional officer vacancies. 00:20:26
We have two lieutenants. 00:20:29
And one food service officer vacancy. 00:20:31
I did just hire a second. 00:20:38
Maintenance person. 00:20:40
That building is always a challenge. 00:20:43
Maintaining and so. 00:20:44
We're glad we've got. 00:20:47
That position field. 00:20:48
We're in the process of our next. 00:20:52
Days of our we've had. 00:20:54
Projects going on, as you all know for about the last year. 00:20:55
With the plumbing. 00:21:00
They just finished up. 00:21:03
The uh. 00:21:04
Laundry room. 00:21:05
Drain line and then they're going to start on a boiler. 00:21:06
Drawing line that should start this week. 00:21:10
And then we have some lines out to the. 00:21:13
Front of the building which will be. 00:21:15
The last part of that, but they have been working on that. 00:21:16
I last time I. 00:21:23
Reported that I had submitted. 00:21:24
Proposal for. 00:21:26
A new RISE program. 00:21:28
That has been accepted. We don't. 00:21:31
Have the details of when that's going to start. 00:21:34
But we will have two staff members. 00:21:36
That will be paid for by that RISE grant. 00:21:40
The focus is going to be a little bit different than it was before. 00:21:43
But I think we're going to be able to really make some. 00:21:46
Headway and and. 00:21:50
Help folks in getting released back into the community and. 00:21:52
Take care. So how's the focus different? 00:21:56
The focus before. 00:21:59
Primarily uh. 00:22:02
Focused on Mescalero. 00:22:04
And. 00:22:06
Working with. 00:22:07
People that were members of the tribe. 00:22:09
That's no longer. 00:22:11
Part of the focus. I mean, they will. They will still. 00:22:13
Receive services but. 00:22:17
We were kind of limited. 00:22:18
On what we were able to do for non tribal members so. 00:22:20
When does the tribe open up their detention facility? Is that opened up yet or that? 00:22:25
That has not so. 00:22:29
The last report that. 00:22:32
Received. 00:22:34
That there were some issues with the contractor. 00:22:36
That built the building. 00:22:39
What I was told is. 00:22:42
That they use a lot of. 00:22:44
Materials that they weren't supposed to and so. 00:22:46
Are not going to be opening that up. 00:22:49
Until those problems can be rectified and. 00:22:52
The estimate that I was given was a couple of years. 00:22:55
And so really, yeah. 00:22:58
The contractor is. 00:23:00
No longer around. 00:23:03
And so. 00:23:05
They're they're having some. 00:23:06
Difficulties getting that building to pass inspection. 00:23:08
So. 00:23:11
That's that's interesting. I didn't know that. 00:23:13
So, so the other question I was going to pose and I'll still do it now. 00:23:17
What approximately in terms of percentage of? 00:23:23
Of Incarcer. 00:23:26
People. 00:23:28
Our tribal members. 00:23:29
On average. 00:23:31
On on average. 00:23:33
20%, I would say that's a good guesstimate, 20 to 25%. 00:23:34
Some of them. 00:23:41
Come under that BIA contract. 00:23:42
But some of them. 00:23:45
Come on, county churches as well, so. 00:23:47
So yeah. 00:23:50
We typically have about 25%. 00:23:51
Last, last thing that I have is I have a meeting tomorrow with. 00:23:58
And we're taking next steps on. 00:24:04
The map program. 00:24:07
We've been making referrals. 00:24:09
And I think we have enough. 00:24:12
Now to where we would actually have. 00:24:13
Medicaid assisted treatment within. 00:24:16
The facility and so. 00:24:19
We're gonna. 00:24:21
Meet tomorrow and something. 00:24:22
Lots of things happening, yeah, so. 00:24:27
That's going to be under the offices of your. 00:24:29
Your medical team that supports you at the. 00:24:32
Jail or those are some of the things that we're going to discuss. It's. 00:24:35
The position that will actually. 00:24:40
Prescribe the medication as. 00:24:43
There's actually a community provider. 00:24:46
And so in our community. 00:24:49
Yes. Do they Do they work with? 00:24:52
With Presbyterian Lincoln County Medical Center, I am not sure of that. I don't, I don't believe they are. So we're talking about 00:24:54
the math program in the jail. 00:24:59
This is a medically assistant, right? So if they if they come into the ER, we can start them on medication assistance from that 00:25:05
standpoint. So it just. 00:25:09
And you just need to be coordinated between the, so I guess that's the point of my query. 00:25:15
It sounds to me like. 00:25:20
We have to make sure that that connection between your organization. 00:25:21
The jail and hope. 00:25:25
Integrated at some level at least. 00:25:28
You know what hands doing it. 00:25:30
And we, we were, we've had several meetings early, but we haven't had any reason. 00:25:33
OK, so. 00:25:37
Yeah, I might suggest. 00:25:39
This this happened. 00:25:41
Yeah, right. 00:25:42
OK. Is that it? 00:25:45
That's it. Any questions, Commissioner? 00:25:46
Thank you very much. 00:25:51
All right, let me see you. 00:25:52
NMSU extension office. 00:25:59
Chairman Fisher. Commissioners. Umm. 00:26:06
We just got back from State Fair Friday night about 10:00. 00:26:09
It was a great fair if you went and saw our indoor Bluetooth Melody and Marty put together, it was beautiful. 00:26:13
At one second place, I'm still biased. I think we should have won. 00:26:20
But. 00:26:23
And so that looks really, really good, really represented Lincoln County well. 00:26:25
Our indoor projects, we have several first, second, third place finishes. 00:26:30
We will be taking. 00:26:34
A lot more even than we took to State Fair going to Eastern Fair. 00:26:36
The beginning of this next month. 00:26:40
Our livestock kennels did amazing. Umm. 00:26:43
The only big, the only big accolades we brought home. 00:26:46
Were bit Scott. 00:26:50
From Capitan. 00:26:53
Was best of breed in the rabbit barn with one that he actually raised. 00:26:54
The judge really commended him and said I would like to have your rabbit to take home and and put into my breeding programs. 00:26:59
And then he also had reserve champion. 00:27:07
Best to show with his other rabbit. 00:27:09
We had lots of reserve champion and reserve division winners across the board. 00:27:11
We did have. 00:27:18
Novice Goat showmanship winner and Novice Lamb showmanship winner. 00:27:20
Actually happened to be the same kid. 00:27:24
I don't know how often that's been done, but if it's been done, it's it was Grady Gutierrez. He's. 00:27:26
My, he's actually my. 00:27:34
But that was that was pretty cool. That doesn't happen very often. 00:27:36
We had 20 kids attend, 8 of them made the junior high stock sale. 00:27:40
Which is. 00:27:44
Pretty, pretty good. Only 97 fell across the whole thing and we had. 00:27:45
We had eight of those, eight of our 20. 00:27:49
We have one steer. 00:27:52
One pig. 00:27:54
4 goats. I'm going to brag. I always brag on our goat born a little bit about how competitive our goat barn is. 00:27:55
There's only 10 goats. 00:28:02
That are that qualify for the junior livestock sale. That's not many and we had four of them. 00:28:04
Vermont County SO. 00:28:09
And then we had two lambs make the sails so. 00:28:10
Umm kids will be rolling in, will be headed into Eastern Fair, not this coming Sunday, but next Sunday. 00:28:14
And that wraps up most of everybody's will have a few going on to some other shows, other national shows throughout the year, but. 00:28:20
That kind of wraps up. 00:28:27
What our kids have done for the years. 00:28:29
That's good. Yeah. The county is making efforts to give it to Jason. 00:28:32
To improve our website or. 00:28:37
Can we get some of that information on our website? Can you get that? 00:28:40
Pictures, you know, names and. 00:28:45
One yes. 00:28:48
Yeah, we can do that. I can work on that today. Perfect. 00:28:50
Also the Lincoln County Fair, too. I'm not this fantastic, right? Yes, it always is. Yeah. 00:28:52
And that's that's about it. The spare mode. And like I said, we're. 00:29:00
We're rolling in the next one very soon. 00:29:04
I stand up for questions. 00:29:07
Thank you and and I'll thank you again. 00:29:08
For the food that we get, the more I look forward to it and I'm waiting, can't wait for the the lunch. 00:29:11
I am going to give a plug I forgot to mention. 00:29:16
On Monday at the office, 10:00 to roughly 2, we will be having a cattle workshop, will be talking about trick management. 00:29:19
Vaccine protocols as well as the New World screwworm. 00:29:29
If you're interested, anybody interested in coming to that, please RSVP by this Friday to the office because we will be providing 00:29:33
lunch as well, mostly to get a head count on lunch, but. 00:29:38
That is happening Monday starting at 10:00 at our office. 00:29:43
Doctor John Wenzel are in a misuse state that will be presenting. 00:29:47
That should be on our website too. OK, excellent. Cool. 00:29:52
No questions. 00:29:56
Thank you very much. 00:29:58
OK, any other? 00:30:05
External boards of committees. 00:30:08
We have here. 00:30:09
Fair Board. Landrack. 00:30:11
Pick one. 00:30:14
Which one is all of you? 00:30:15
All the above. 00:30:19
Good morning, Chair, Commissioners. 00:30:21
Shepherd. Cherub Landrack. 00:30:24
We there was a. 00:30:28
On the Stream Commission, there's a. 00:30:30
Comment period that's going on right now. 00:30:35
But I think the county really needs to. 00:30:37
If they haven't already, make a comment so you can. 00:30:39
Lincoln County can have a stake at the future. 00:30:43
They're putting in together. 00:30:46
Committees and stuff and and what we've read it. 00:30:50
It's it's going to be a well balanced if they follow through. 00:30:53
On what they're going to do. 00:30:57
After the comment period. 00:30:58
It's going to be a pretty well balanced. 00:31:00
Stakeholders at the. 00:31:04
It's all talking about this. You can go on to the. 00:31:06
State Engineers website. 00:31:11
And it'll take you. Just take on and it'll take you to where. 00:31:12
Comments to be made. I'm going to pass out a. 00:31:16
Do you need help with that effort? Is that what you're saying? Well, I'd like the county to get behind it because. 00:31:19
You need us to do that. This is. 00:31:26
A combat that the. 00:31:34
Land right put in. 00:31:35
Submitted UH. 00:31:37
I was going to submit it but my. 00:31:39
Standard crash like. 00:31:41
Couldn't get it scanned yet so. 00:31:43
That's just a brief opinion of what? 00:31:45
Lane Rex Taken. 00:31:49
Also a couple other things that. 00:31:50
First of all, we do have. 00:31:55
An opening on the Landrack board. 00:31:58
President Stone said that he. 00:32:01
Was too busy and everything and. 00:32:04
Gave him his resignation so we do have 1 opening. 00:32:07
If any of the commissioners knows anybody that. 00:32:12
Wants to sit on the land rack board. 00:32:18
By all means. 00:32:20
Other things that we're watching. 00:32:23
There's some red dunes. 00:32:26
With BLM. 00:32:28
On and I just read this the other day that we're going to follow up on. 00:32:31
On redesignating. 00:32:37
The stuff that was taken out. 00:32:38
They're trying to make it back where it benefits all realms, like permit grazing. 00:32:42
And a lot of stuff like that, so. 00:32:48
And I know cattle roses. 00:32:50
On that SO. 00:32:53
There's a big deal on. 00:32:57
The Mexican Gray wolf that's going down, I know the president has. 00:33:00
Cut off a bunch of the funding. 00:33:05
For that. 00:33:07
Part of one of my other hats is also. 00:33:10
How cows for relative livestock but. 00:33:13
I deal with all the people on the western part of the state. 00:33:16
And they're just getting. 00:33:19
Hammered by these. 00:33:21
The Mexican Gray wolf. I talked to a lady. 00:33:24
A foreman of a ranch. 00:33:27
The track in the middle of it they've had. 00:33:29
This last month I've had. 00:33:31
5 or 4 confirmed kills and one they couldn't buy the calf. 00:33:35
And then this foreman had to put down a wolf because it attacked her and her dog. 00:33:39
And so she went to a pretty good ordeal. 00:33:44
On trying not to go to jail over that deal. 00:33:47
Because that's usually what happens even if you're in the right. It was a colored wolf. 00:33:50
But they did that, as did while she was checking livestock attack her and her dog. 00:33:54
So she was able to defend herself and put it down. But that's, you know, that's not, not only New Mexico that's facing this 00:33:59
problem. 00:34:02
It's California. It's in. 00:34:05
Washington, Oregon. 00:34:08
It's just they have their place but. 00:34:09
Unchecked it's gonna it's creating a problem. 00:34:12
That's another thing we're looking at. 00:34:16
Or just keeping up on. 00:34:18
And there's, which on the Forest Service, there's a. 00:34:20
A court case going on right now in Santa Fe. 00:34:24
With some permittees in Otero County. 00:34:26
And on the outcome of that case could. 00:34:30
Be kind of what's going to happen with all permittees as. 00:34:33
Whatever the case. 00:34:39
When it concludes. 00:34:41
The permit keys has gone all the way to Washington DC, pleading their case to hey. 00:34:42
You know, we're being. 00:34:47
Railroaded here and stuff like that. 00:34:49
So that's one thing that I am keeping close watch on to see how the outcome on that is. 00:34:52
Because I know, I know these ranchers and I know that they have spent just the court case alone. 00:34:56
Just for. 00:35:01
Their attorneys and everything they had to show out over $12,000 just for accommodations. 00:35:02
For the hearing in Santa Fe. 00:35:07
So right now the. 00:35:09
Fresh cows is high so it's helping them. 00:35:12
But uh. 00:35:15
It's it's going to be interesting to see. 00:35:16
After the outcome. 00:35:19
On which way this goes? 00:35:20
On that court case. 00:35:22
Right now I that's. 00:35:27
Kind of all that we're looking at, we are keeping them. 00:35:29
Tabs on all the flooding and how it's affecting and. 00:35:31
You know, with the water and stuff like that. So. 00:35:35
That's all I have and I'll stand for questions. 00:35:38
Are you are you aware of the loss of? 00:35:42
Wells in the Honda Valley. 00:35:45
You know, I've heard some of that. 00:35:48
And. 00:35:49
I know that a lot of times the floodwaters will. 00:35:52
Be devastating to. 00:35:55
Well, heads and stuff like that. 00:35:58
But I do know that there's an issue done in in the Hondo Valley. 00:36:01
And. 00:36:05
The the floodwaters you know in. 00:36:06
Years I've seen them completely obliterate springs. 00:36:09
That have been there for. 00:36:13
Years and then the floodwaters come down, whether it seals it off, makes it go somewhere else but in that area. 00:36:15
It completely stops. 00:36:21
Yeah. Well, yeah, so there's there's. 00:36:23
There, there's probably about a dozen wells. 00:36:27
I'm aware of 6 in particular and there's I'm getting hearing. 00:36:30
About others as well. 00:36:34
The theory the theory is is that. 00:36:36
As these floodwaters come down. 00:36:39
The Rio Rio does so. 00:36:41
They're entrapped in those waters of. 00:36:43
Sediment. Silk. 00:36:46
Ash all kinds of things that. 00:36:48
Really stopped the permeability. 00:36:51
Of the river. 00:36:54
Bottom to. 00:36:55
To recharge the the. 00:36:58
The the well waters. 00:36:59
Right. And this is adjacent to the river. 00:37:01
So, so in your, I'm really delighted that you're talking about water in the comments and water security plan. 00:37:04
I think this is a big, big item. 00:37:12
For US water in general. 00:37:15
And I applaud that your efforts that you're, you're looking at that with some seriousness. 00:37:17
Don't forget that piece of it too. 00:37:21
I'm interested also in. 00:37:25
And and we'll deal with this at another time. 00:37:27
In detail but. 00:37:30
In supporting. 00:37:32
You know the comment section, so we do have a place. 00:37:34
At the table when when these things are actually being negotiated. 00:37:36
And that's and that's like any other. 00:37:39
Comment period that if you don't comment. 00:37:44
A lot of people don't know if you don't comment then. 00:37:46
Once that comment periods over. 00:37:49
You don't. You can't say anything. You don't have a snake at the table. 00:37:50
So you get your comments in, you're included. 00:37:53
And all that, and that's on any. 00:37:56
Anything that the. 00:37:58
The federal government or even the state government. 00:37:59
When they put out that. 00:38:02
And I've always said this, we need to get. 00:38:05
A handle on where? 00:38:07
A lot of the decisions are being made. 00:38:09
For Lincoln County needs to be coming out of. 00:38:11
Lincoln County area. 00:38:13
And this Commission right here. 00:38:14
The waters I have seen. 00:38:17
Not only does it seal the wellheads off a lot of times. 00:38:19
But if it goes down the wellhead or down. 00:38:22
And Commissioner Wilson can also visit around the. 00:38:25
It will contaminate that wellhead. 00:38:29
I saw one in lower Eagle Creek that a sinkhole developed right in the bottom. 00:38:31
Of the crate. 00:38:35
And there was 3 residents that. 00:38:36
Their wells, they couldn't use it for about two years until the water cleaned itself. 00:38:39
So yes, it's it's a serious deal. 00:38:43
And also. 00:38:47
You know the. 00:38:48
A lot of the people need to get back. 00:38:49
The agencies to. 00:38:51
What's causing the flooding where they need to mitigate? 00:38:53
Back at the top. 00:38:56
The the lands and everything where this flooding is coming off of. 00:38:58
You know, I've heard three to seven years. It's gonna. 00:39:02
Do this, I'm thinking 10 to 15 to 20 years, you know, it's gonna flood us some type. 00:39:05
Down that, down off those fire burn scars. 00:39:10
Well, we're engaged in that piece too. And I. 00:39:14
And and if you if you hang out here for a little bit. 00:39:17
Probably hear exactly what it is. I mean one one thing you want to do. 00:39:20
It stopped these these uncontrolled fires. 00:39:25
That's key, right? 00:39:28
So that's thinning, that's woolly barriers. 00:39:30
And then the other piece to it is. 00:39:33
Is reforestation effort? I don't want to. 00:39:35
Put a lot of trees in. 00:39:39
But you do need some. 00:39:40
Right, and the grasses, and that'll stop. 00:39:42
A lot of that stuff and coming down so you know, and it was before my time because. 00:39:44
I'm not that old. 00:39:48
Oh they they had the CCT counts and they still do this in. 00:39:49
The Northwest and in Canada anytime fire comes through. 00:39:57
They have crews that go back out there and plant seedlings. 00:40:01
Not only that, on on previous log. 00:40:05
Areas but. 00:40:07
You know, I don't know why there's probably cost. 00:40:08
But when you get the. 00:40:11
The any hot fire is going to ignite your poison weeds. 00:40:12
Your local, your P line, your thistles are just going to take over. 00:40:17
And. 00:40:21
And then you get your scrub brush. 00:40:22
But uh. 00:40:24
I it needs to be replanted in a? 00:40:25
Healthy way. 00:40:29
Right, so. 00:40:31
Any commissioner wants to join. 00:40:33
Or a can the line right? 00:40:36
It's the Wednesday before this meeting and anybody is welcome to attend. 00:40:39
Thank you. 00:40:44
Commissioners, any any questions? 00:40:47
No question, guys. 00:40:49
Comment. 00:40:51
OK. Thank you. 00:40:54
Very much. 00:40:55
Well. 00:40:58
Okay. 00:41:03
I'm going to departments. 00:41:06
The Office of Emergency Services 1st. 00:41:08
That's the Gray one. 00:41:12
Good morning, Chairman Fisher, Commissioners. 00:41:14
So just a quick update on. 00:41:16
Ten of our August. 00:41:19
Report So August 2025 we had 22 calls for service in the county. 00:41:20
We had three brush fires. 00:41:27
Seven false alarms, 5 motor vehicle accidents, one structure fire, 2 EMS calls, and four flooding. 00:41:28
Type calls. 00:41:36
We also managed to get 5 personnel total. 00:41:38
Two out of Oh yes, and three volunteers from the Bonito Fire District. 00:41:41
To a Swift Order Technician class. 00:41:45
All of the Volunteer Fire departments that were involved in the campfire over Fort Stanton. 00:41:51
They attended Fort Stanton Live and they were all. 00:41:55
Give an award, the Fort Stanton Live for their efforts at the campfire. 00:41:59
A few public outreach events. Both were well attended. 00:42:04
We had a really good showing in both the local districts and the OES office for president to. 00:42:08
Use those public outreach events. 00:42:14
Where were those? 00:42:16
One was in White Oaks. 00:42:17
For Miners Day and the other one was Fort Stanton Life. 00:42:19
The the the rescue boats that you guys approved for Benito Fire Department has arrived. 00:42:23
It is in station, we're working on the last bits of paperwork, getting everything together so that that peace apparatus can go in 00:42:28
service. 00:42:31
And then we also hosted a cave rescue class out of Fort. 00:42:36
It was attended by Lincoln, Benito, Nogal and Capitan fire departments. Well attended, well taught. 00:42:41
That's the class that we've. 00:42:47
This is the second time we've put it on and we're going to try to do it on probably in every other year basis. 00:42:49
So it's a really good class and that's something that we don't train for a whole lot. And so that's that's a much needed. 00:42:54
Thing other than that, I'll stand for questions. 00:43:00
Hearing none. 00:43:06
Thank you very much. Thank you. 00:43:07
What department? 00:43:10
Veronica. 00:43:12
Chairman Fisher Commissioner Jeff Honeycutt, Lincoln County Road Superintendent. 00:43:20
We'll go through a few of the things. I've got several other items with projects on the agenda a little bit later, but I'll go 00:43:26
through some of the stuff the crew's been doing in the department. 00:43:30
We have made 36 Rd. signs. 00:43:35
Issued 17 driveway permits. 00:43:37
That's coming out of the administrative part of the office with Janet. 00:43:41
We've played it 392 miles of Rd. this last month. 00:43:45
The average is about 65 miles per district. 00:43:49
Those numbers are a little skewed because some of the areas we spend a lot more time in than. 00:43:52
Than others but. 00:43:57
392 miles so far. 00:43:58
Of bladed robes. 00:44:02
We still have 6 vacancies. 00:44:03
In the department. 00:44:06
We have not had any interest. 00:44:08
Outside. 00:44:10
Our our department for the. 00:44:11
Over higher positions, but we do have 4. 00:44:13
Internals that are. 00:44:16
Have applied for the positions in the inside the department for the operating service. 00:44:18
So we have internal interest, but no outside interest. 00:44:24
Just yet. 00:44:27
We have. 00:44:30
Still been working with pattern energy. 00:44:31
They are. 00:44:34
Working mostly in the north part of our district there in the trans western and Elda. 00:44:35
Part of Bogle. 00:44:41
The blade work has gotten better. 00:44:43
The cattle guards have not. 00:44:45
So we're still working with them. 00:44:47
They're putting in cattle guards or settling. 00:44:49
And we're having some issues with that still. 00:44:51
They are settling. 00:44:55
So they're dropping, they're putting them in and they're dropping 4 to 5 inches. 00:44:56
And you hit those going down the road and. 00:45:00
It's noticeable. 00:45:03
So we're working with pattern. 00:45:05
On that, do you agree with that? Let me just replace shocks on my daughter's pickup yesterday. 00:45:07
From do we need to get pattern in here? 00:45:13
That would be good we've. 00:45:16
Had a very spirited dialogue. 00:45:18
Over the last let's let's bring them in. 00:45:20
Mr. Manager, next time. 00:45:24
Report on that. 00:45:26
So how's how's Trans Western looking? 00:45:27
That's been a problem, right? Rocks and. 00:45:29
Well, the the 20 miles of Transworth of Trans Western from 246 N is county maintained. 00:45:31
Pretty much from the crossroads that last 10 miles to 2:47. 00:45:38
Is maintained by pattern. 00:45:42
And that's where some of the bigger issues are. 00:45:44
With traffic. 00:45:47
Cattle guards and blade work. 00:45:50
So it's kind of a mixed bag. 00:45:53
We're, we just got through blading trans Western a couple weeks ago, but of course we've had the rains. 00:45:55
And the traffic? 00:46:00
And it's retract again. 00:46:01
So we're heading back out there next week. 00:46:04
Can you bring some documentation the next time we have a meeting? 00:46:06
Or. 00:46:09
Cattle cards, absolutely. I want, I want to show these to these people when they get here. Absolutely. And and the quality of the. 00:46:11
They're blading for the 10 miles that they're responsible. 00:46:17
Yes, of course, water has been an issue in the dust and the traffic is extremely heavy right now. 00:46:20
On that portion of Transwestern. 00:46:27
What is an issue? How? 00:46:29
They're not providing enough. 00:46:32
And the dust to go along with the traffic. 00:46:33
Is uh. 00:46:35
Dusting people out. 00:46:36
Couple of branchers have called me. 00:46:39
Consistently. 00:46:41
Yeah, you get just on the on. 00:46:46
Cat won't lead it. 00:46:48
So we are still working with pattern and I'd like to revisit some stuff with those folks before we move too much further down the 00:46:51
line. 00:46:54
And with all the rain. 00:46:58
We have uh, uh. 00:46:59
Identified 5 low water crossings that we're going to have to repair. 00:47:01
The one on the snail outside of. 00:47:05
380 here. 00:47:07
Outside of Carrizozo is going to be extensive. 00:47:09
Repairs that we need to do, we can do those in house, but it'll have to be. 00:47:11
Gave me a baskets and a lot of concrete. 00:47:16
To get those. 00:47:18
Back to good. They're undermining really bad. 00:47:19
And then of course. 00:47:22
Able to help you with some of that work. 00:47:24
On areas that are identified in the burn scar. 00:47:26
They can. 00:47:29
But these areas are kind of just for the flooding and and things, so I don't know what. 00:47:31
Their involvement would be but I can check. 00:47:35
They can still, they can still help. We'll have a match that we'll have to pay that sounds like that's cheaper than the county 00:47:38
payments and we're going to try to do this in house and that way we can take care of a lot of that. We are capable of doing some 00:47:42
of these things. 00:47:46
Issue with that. 00:47:51
Results being short staffed. 00:47:53
If we're doing that, we're not doing. 00:47:55
The other stuff at the day-to-day so. 00:47:57
We sacrifice bleeding roads and doing other things if we're tied up three weeks on the low water crossing. 00:48:00
Right, so so you might, you might. 00:48:05
Reach out to them and see what they can do. 00:48:07
From a 7525. 00:48:10
Point of view but those those are 5. Snail being the worst. We do have one on a. 00:48:12
Jack speak that we just fixed the other day, but that was a temporary. 00:48:16
And then we have two on Devil's Canyon and one on Seven Rivers. 00:48:20
That all need to be repaired. 00:48:24
A lot of work we did. 00:48:26
We have a lot of that with the. 00:48:28
Addition with the day-to-day stuff that we're going through. 00:48:30
But at that point, I'll save the questions. 00:48:33
So those those cattle boards have been replacing the patterns replacing. 00:48:40
Are they the same quality that they're taken out like? 00:48:43
Or the replacing light for life on the words. 00:48:46
Chairman Fisher, Commissioner Wilson, they are, they're actually using the same, uh. 00:48:49
Company that produces our counter guards. 00:48:53
The only difference is they're going a little wider. 00:48:55
Typically we install 16 or 20 ones and they're putting in 20 fours or or larger to get some of their trucks together. 00:48:58
So but they are putting. 00:49:05
Putting them back in with the same company that we use. 00:49:07
Or they still bottomed. Or they. 00:49:10
Or they concreted they are. 00:49:13
They have steel sides open bottom. 00:49:15
So the box is is. 00:49:17
And then the grate sets on top of that. 00:49:20
No concrete. 00:49:23
No compassion either. 00:49:25
No. 00:49:26
Obviously not. No, they're dropping. 00:49:27
That. 00:49:34
The personnel. 00:49:36
Advertising everywhere for. 00:49:38
Chairman Fisher of Commissioner Chavez, we do have those posted. 00:49:41
I'll probably let HR. 00:49:47
To that little bell steal her Thunder. But yeah, they yes Sir, they are posted. 00:49:49
And just kind of waking. 00:49:53
We've had 0 outside applicants. 00:49:55
But a lot of interest internally. 00:49:58
Which is good. 00:50:02
I'm glad for that, but. 00:50:03
If we hire. 00:50:05
Internally, this is Sometimes it's easier to hire operator twos, which are basically truck drivers. Water truck. It's easier to 00:50:07
hire those folks outside than it is to hire equipment operators. 00:50:11
Outside. So that's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just we're running into a time thing. 00:50:17
Where we need more people and we're just not. 00:50:22
If I hire internally, we still have those openings, they're just. 00:50:25
Moved around. 00:50:28
So I won't talk about your workload a little bit more and. 00:50:30
Another presentation that you have. 00:50:34
OK, I I think you're. 00:50:36
I think we're. 00:50:40
Hurting a little bit. 00:50:41
Anything else? 00:50:44
Thank you very much. 00:50:46
HR. 00:50:49
Oh my. 00:50:51
I'll get facilities after. 00:50:55
Is your commissioner Vanessa? 00:51:06
HR Manager, Lincoln County. 00:51:09
Been pretty busy actually in the HR department. 00:51:11
As the road department was just saying. 00:51:14
We do have. 00:51:16
Plastic usage position is open. 00:51:18
I have posted them. 00:51:21
Internally I've posted them. 00:51:23
Externally as well. 00:51:25
One of the things I've been working on. 00:51:27
We'll talk about is. 00:51:30
Going to job fairs to put that out there as well. 00:51:31
For job opened. 00:51:35
The size of the road. 00:51:37
We have our. 00:51:38
Treasurer's office has a seasonal clerk. 00:51:40
Opening I have one application I just posted that so I've had these one. 00:51:42
We've also posted for the Zia Senior Center. 00:51:47
On Cook Aid and Driver. 00:51:50
And then in the Sheriff's Department. 00:51:53
We have both the certified and uncertified. 00:51:55
Positions open and we also have the legal process server and animal control. We've interviewed 1 applicant for that so far. 00:51:58
And then? 00:52:06
As well for the Sheriff's Office, we have the dispatcher position and we have interviewed 2 applicants for that. 00:52:07
For new hires this month, we. 00:52:14
Have hired A reappraisal clerk assistant in the assessor's office. 00:52:16
As well as a mobile home specialist in the assessor's office. 00:52:20
Down in Ruidoso we have our solid waste fillings. 00:52:24
First Helm and then we also got our planning check as well. 00:52:27
Came in for our office here, the managers office. We've got our new executive admin assistant as well. 00:52:32
I went up to the New Mexico State Fair. 00:52:40
Took a lot of job applications out there, handed out a few of them. People were kind of interested. They were more interested in 00:52:43
knowing how Lincoln County was doing, how good that was doing here. 00:52:48
But I did get it out there. 00:52:53
A couple of events that I have coming up next month is the end of the Mountain Gods has their 13th annual health fair that I'll be 00:52:55
attending for that. 00:52:59
And Ian and you also have a career fair as well. 00:53:02
One of the things I wanted to do as well as reach out to the high schools and talk to them, see if they're interested as well as 00:53:07
hearing from us or. 00:53:10
You know, people are graduating this year and start to see. 00:53:14
Wanting to let kids know what the county offers as well since we do have some. 00:53:17
Entry level positions as well, so I'm trying to get those out there and get them filled as quickly as possible. I am pushing the 00:53:23
road hard. I know that there is a demand for them right now, so I'm really pushing those. 00:53:29
As hard as I can at the moment, but. 00:53:35
That's not going on in the HR department. No censoring questions. 00:53:37
Questions. 00:53:44
You mentioned you're going to be attending a job fair. When is that? 00:53:47
That is the 23rd of October. That will be in a news drop there and then the end of the mountain Gods has theirs on the 18th. 00:53:51
Since we are in such desperate need for CDL drivers, do you have a strategy in place to track this? 00:54:00
I have not really put it out on Indeed and highlighted that we do need those CDL drivers. I may reach out to other counties and 00:54:06
ask what they're doing as well when they have those situations to attract those CDL drivers already. See if they have an idea 00:54:12
where we could reach from another pool for something else like that. 00:54:18
I'd recommend having on the spot interviews, I think that can go a long way. Maybe even having some equipment out front just to 00:54:25
attract them. 00:54:28
And I think something that stands out with us is the four 10s. 00:54:33
Highlight that, OK. 00:54:37
Weekends off, Holidays off. 00:54:38
Ideally. 00:54:41
We do. 00:54:45
Not you. 00:54:48
That's very good. It's a very good, very good point. It is an attractive. 00:54:49
Employ it. 00:54:56
It really is. 00:54:58
Yeah, exactly. 00:55:00
I mean the number how many and this is a. 00:55:02
Not a trick question, but maybe it turns out to be. 00:55:05
How many? How many pay holidays? 00:55:08
It's a lot they're pushing. 00:55:10
There can't never happened in my life. 00:55:13
And and so that's that's very good and four 10s. 00:55:16
The para. 00:55:19
Any insurance? 00:55:22
It's, it's a, it's a very good job. 00:55:23
You don't make $1,000,000, but it's steady. 00:55:27
Good, good atmosphere. 00:55:29
And he gets he gets paid. 00:55:32
I think that the important to utilize umm. 00:55:34
Our social media as well to attract these you can target those local. 00:55:37
CDL holders using social media make direct contacts. 00:55:42
But I think you need to get a little aggressive with your approach. 00:55:46
We did have a discussion here this week. 00:55:52
We're developing the flyer. 00:55:54
Looking at alternatives trying to attack attract folks, especially for. 00:55:55
Public Works and our deputy and I know our deputies are advertised. 00:55:59
So we are getting that pushed down. That's going to be a. 00:56:03
Immediate. 00:56:06
That's great. 00:56:10
All right. Good luck make it happen. Thank you. 00:56:11
Facilities. 00:56:16
It did real fast, Commissioner, since she brought it up, wanted to introduce Miss Bethany one more time. 00:56:21
Is our new executive admin. 00:56:27
She's in the meeting this morning. 00:56:29
And also. 00:56:31
But Stephanie, I forgot your last name. I'm sorry. 00:56:33
Huh, Miss Stephanie Warner. 00:56:35
She just came on with this last week too, so we're real pleased to have both of them on board. 00:56:38
And adding to the team, so that's great. 00:56:42
What are you doing? 00:56:50
I have plenty technicians for the Bunny brothers department making permitting. 00:56:51
Have you ever? Have you ever done that before? 00:56:58
Yes, Sir. I came from. So I've been doing that for the last 7 1/2 years. Yeah, I knew that. 00:57:00
We actually have her a. 00:57:09
Quite a long list if we can get her equipped. 00:57:12
We have a long list of a bunch of our GIS maps and mapping and. 00:57:15
It really helps to. 00:57:19
See it on the wall when? 00:57:20
Keep that updated along with our assessors. And so, so we have. 00:57:23
Quite a long list of work from a Stephanie. I don't know if she knows what she stepped into, but it's too late now so. 00:57:27
I've got four or five snaps I want. 00:57:34
Want you to develop. Yeah, that's fantastic. So we're happy to have a month. 00:57:36
Very good. 00:57:40
OK, facility, James? 00:57:42
And Chairman Fisher Commissioners Jan Zavaro. 00:57:44
We have a few projects we're working on right now. One of the mess. 00:57:48
We replace the porch. 00:57:51
And a fixed all the leaks inside. That's plus 75% of 8. 00:57:53
That they're happy about that. 00:57:58
They are. It looks a lot better. 00:58:00
Second one. 00:58:04
I'm ready for that. 00:58:07
Second one is the parks we've got. 00:58:10
We've begun all the. 00:58:13
Renovations inner so far. 00:58:15
So we got the electric put in the. 00:58:17
The painting done. 00:58:19
The walls torn out. 00:58:21
But right now? 00:58:22
Focus on to be the lights and outside exterior lights. 00:58:24
And some canvas system. 00:58:26
To get it for. 00:58:28
The third one is the public health office. 00:58:30
Right now we've got all the mini spins ordered. 00:58:33
And so it's just a matter of getting on general Zen to get that computer into one. 00:58:35
As soon as possible. 00:58:39
Yeah, they need that desperately. 00:58:41
We've had numerous water years while HVAC doesn't go out. 00:58:43
So I think after all these years of 10/12/15 years, they're all giving out right now. 00:58:48
So we're. 00:58:53
Having that day-to-day has become. 00:58:54
You know, looking at the parking lots at the annex. 00:59:00
The public health clinic. 00:59:03
The new clerks. 00:59:06
Office. 00:59:07
We're going to have to figure out how we're going to take care of that. 00:59:09
We'll get on one point, Jeff. We're going to get a. 00:59:12
Is it gave me some colds. 00:59:15
Get somebody started on the pavement outside and. 00:59:17
In it public health office and. 00:59:19
The 1st and get those refurbished I mean. 00:59:21
They haven't been. 00:59:24
Years bring us bring us a plan. 00:59:26
Next time you show up. 00:59:29
Just I know we can't do it all at once. 00:59:31
It's a very, very expensive. 00:59:33
But we need to have a plan. 00:59:35
Well, how we're going to make these things? 00:59:37
Get back to standard. 00:59:39
Mr. Chairman. 00:59:41
Commissioners one thing that. 00:59:42
Mr. Gillard working on is our facilities. 00:59:45
Asset management plan. 00:59:48
That we are going through and listing out all of our. 00:59:50
Facilities, uh. 00:59:52
And just kind of. 00:59:53
Really. The honeydews on on the hot water heaters, The parking lots, the trap systems? 00:59:55
That we're noticing need to be updated so we can have that all in one large list and kind of. 01:00:00
Put that in one place as a working document that. 01:00:04
We can kind of keep track of everything we need to do and that helps us with budgets. 01:00:07
Very good. 01:00:13
We need it desperately. Thank you. 01:00:14
I love that sign out there, Tim. 01:00:16
The other thing that uh. 01:00:19
Our facilities teams are really working on good as we do have our. 01:00:21
The custodian on board. 01:00:25
And I think that's working much better with. 01:00:26
Matt and both the custodians working together. 01:00:29
I think we're able to get around the most everything. So we're. 01:00:32
That's working good too. 01:00:35
So yeah. 01:00:36
Excellent. 01:00:40
Thank you very much. 01:00:45
Thank you, Sir. 01:00:47
Finance. 01:00:52
Billy Joe. 01:00:56
How are you today? 01:00:58
I'm good, Commissioner 1 Commissioner, I don't have a whole lot to report. 01:01:03
I'm just working. 01:01:08
Day-to-day stuff we are still continuing to learn. 01:01:09
Auditors, they actually. 01:01:12
Today on an e-mail so it's pretty lengthy. 01:01:15
Lately, that they are. 01:01:18
I said everything's looking good. 01:01:21
I expect nothing less from you. 01:01:24
Other than that, I have nothing else. 3 Three years in a row? Four years in a row, No. 01:01:25
4th and now we're going to buy. 01:01:30
I do have I do have a comment. 01:01:38
I looked at the. 01:01:41
All the checks. 01:01:42
You know. 01:01:44
And pretty extraordinary. 01:01:45
Is it possible to? 01:01:50
Add a column as to what department. 01:01:55
These checks are associated with. 01:01:57
And the reason why? 01:02:00
Is because instead of me or somebody else asking you what was this for? 01:02:02
I would like to go to the department head. 01:02:07
And ask them because they're the ones that are account. 01:02:10
OK. Can you do that? 01:02:14
The system could do that, yeah. 01:02:16
I just need to figure out. 01:02:18
And then yeah. And then. 01:02:20
Well, that would be great. 01:02:22
Maybe that's good enough. 01:02:24
OK. But you can put them all by department. Wow. What's going on here? OK, OK. 01:02:25
Thank you. Anything else? 01:02:31
Finance departments been doing a great job. We've been inundating them with. 01:02:35
PO and checks and we're we're working on those processes. So you see that. 01:02:39
Yeah. 01:02:44
That's how you can. 01:02:46
Yeah. 01:02:47
OK, that's excellent. 01:02:49
Senior Services. 01:02:51
Yeah, I think she had some. 01:02:53
Personal business issues, I can't apologize. 01:02:56
I want to take. 01:02:59
The privilege as chair. 01:03:01
To move an item, if you don't mind. 01:03:03
Commission, because we have a representative here and if you look. 01:03:05
You look on your agenda at the consent items. 01:03:09
Is that item number 5? 01:03:12
This is for the Friends of Historic Lincoln County. 01:03:16
Now normally this would be. 01:03:18
Almost a rubber stamp on this one, but I wanted to ask. 01:03:21
Miss Elaine Allen. 01:03:26
He really she she's not the mayor of Lincoln, but she's the. 01:03:28
Even I'm kind of the mayor of Lincoln, but but. 01:03:35
Those are. 01:03:39
So thank you. Welcome to the Commission meeting and I wanted. 01:03:41
I wanted you to kind of give us an outline of what you think. 01:03:45
The impact is. 01:03:48
Of the Billboard. 01:03:50
Right, the Billboard that you're asking for the funding for? 01:03:52
And because I think it's important, we talked yesterday about this. 01:03:55
So good morning, Chair Fisher and Commissioners. 01:03:58
1st, I want to thank you very much for your support in the past with this billboard. 01:04:01
I think this is the third year that we've. 01:04:06
We've had a billboard. This is the second year we've had it located on Hwy. 70. 01:04:09
Just West of the 10 E silver dollar. 01:04:14
So as you can, you're familiar with that road, you kind of come around and turn around and then there it is right in front of you. 01:04:17
So we are in partnership with the state again, they're going to pay half and we're going to pay half and of course y'all are 01:04:24
paying half. 01:04:27
It's it's the truth of it all. We're asking you to help us payout. 01:04:31
Yeah, the people are. 01:04:35
And but. 01:04:37
What we found and what I talked to our site manager yesterday about it again. 01:04:39
And he and DCA Department of Cultural Affairs, they feel like the billboards are very effective. 01:04:43
Of course, they don't have specific information on our billboard, but the billboards throughout the state they find to be very 01:04:50
effective. 01:04:53
That's why they continue. 01:04:57
Doing, you know, having them. 01:04:58
So I personally the only. 01:05:00
The only thing I can tell you personally is that. 01:05:03
I honestly don't leave the house very often, but when I do, I go down to the post office, the gathering point of Lincoln, and I 01:05:06
run across tourists all the time. 01:05:10
And you know, they ask questions who shot who 1st and you know, all that kind of stuff. And where was the first shot fired? 01:05:15
I'm learning a lot. I've been there 25 years, so I finally have a few answers to some of these questions. 01:05:20
But you know, I'll say, well, you know, how do you tell him up here, you know what's going on? And they're like, well, you know, 01:05:26
we've forgotten all about it. We were on our way to Ruidoso and there's that billboard and. 01:05:30
Like, Oh yeah, let's go through that way because. 01:05:35
Of course, you can travel through Lincoln to get rid of so, so it's not like that to come back, go back around. 01:05:38
In my personal experience, I've had several encounters with just people in general that are just. 01:05:43
You know, I always say hello to the tourists. You obviously know who the tourists are because there's only 25 people that are 01:05:49
there all the time. 01:05:52
So, umm. 01:05:56
It's a treat to get to visit with people and. 01:05:57
The love of Billy the Kid, even though some people don't like Billy the Kid and we do get letters to that effect, all of us, but. 01:06:01
You know, it's, it's an amazing thing that people travel from all over the world to visit that historic site. 01:06:09
And I want to brag on our site manager, he's Oliver Thorns. 01:06:16
And he has just done a great job. It's just amazing. 01:06:20
And of course, my concern, and the only concern I have is the protection of the buildings. 01:06:24
I the tourists come and we have to have the tourists. 01:06:28
Obviously that's what pays for. 01:06:31
For everything to go forward. 01:06:33
But uh. 01:06:35
Just that. 01:06:36
Protection of that community. 01:06:37
I and I don't know if I told you this last time, but. 01:06:39
In the last. 01:06:43
Year, I think, or maybe. 01:06:44
Before that. 01:06:46
They found, you know, the civilization goes back to 200. The Maggiano Pueblo settled there in the year 200. That's what they have 01:06:48
record of. 01:06:51
That's what they're proof of. They don't know before that, you know. 01:06:56
And so we just found. 01:06:59
A burial chamber right behind the toriel. 01:07:01
They dated it to 1200. 01:07:04
It was a little person, of course, and. 01:07:06
With a pot on it, Ted. 01:07:08
And so I mean. 01:07:10
So for me, the love of. 01:07:12
Lincoln obvious is obvious. 01:07:15
But the reason is not that. 01:07:18
You know, Billy the Kid was there, whatever. It has been populated for such a very long time and you can just feel it. The history 01:07:21
is just there and it's wonderful. And so I'm very happy to. 01:07:27
Works as the chair of the friends you know to try to. 01:07:33
Continued the protection of the buildings primarily. That's what the friends does. It's a. 01:07:36
Fundraising arm for the historic site, not for the town of Lincoln. 01:07:42
But for the historic site itself. 01:07:46
And, umm. 01:07:48
And that's what Lincoln is. I mean, we are a community that's around there and the people do live there. And, you know, we're very 01:07:49
happy to be there, but. 01:07:53
Best is. 01:07:57
Magical, uh. 01:07:59
And to be preserved all this. 01:08:00
All these many years. 01:08:02
And it almost wasn't, you know, in the early 70s when the Commission. 01:08:04
Put together the preservation ordinance. 01:08:07
The buildings were wrecks, all except for the courthouse and the Tunstall. 01:08:10
So you know, those things can happen. So that's. 01:08:15
50 years. 01:08:18
So, so, so you. I want to just. 01:08:19
Highlight. 01:08:22
Days. 01:08:24
Umm, tell us a little bit about that. I have some interest. Well, thank you very much for being in our parade. 01:08:26
We appreciated it very much. That was very nice fun. 01:08:31
Yeah, it was fun. It was great to see you and your wife that was that was lovely. 01:08:34
A Lincoln Days. 01:08:39
We were up in attendance. 01:08:41
And of course. 01:08:43
Old Lincoln. Anything, anything that happens in this area depends on. 01:08:44
The strength of Ruidoso. 01:08:50
And what Ruidoso is, you know, the tourism, the tourists that are there through the summer and everything, and then they get to go 01:08:52
out and. 01:08:55
Visit the other things in the county. 01:08:58
And our our visitation was up this year, even with the problems that everybody's having. 01:09:00
And the pageant board, which has been going, the pageant has been going on. I think they're in their 88th year now, which is 01:09:07
amazing. 01:09:10
I think any group of people that can work together for 88 years, it's phenomenal and I don't care. And they all fight with each 01:09:15
other. They all have. It's a big family and they just have a big old brouhaha every year. It's great fun. 01:09:20
But they're, you know, they managed to put that together. So they're 88 here and their attendance was sky high. 01:09:27
They brought, you know, they were thrilled to death with the attendance. 01:09:33
Yeah, I think they had that one evening once in. 01:09:35
Saturday. I guess it would. 01:09:39
They almost broke 800. Yeah, well, and I heard to hope. They thought maybe it came closer to 1000 and even on Friday and Sunday. 01:09:40
Which are lower, you know, so people are still coming and. 01:09:49
And they still managed to. 01:09:52
Put it together, which is wonderful. 01:09:54
I think we had. 01:09:57
Maybe 3 deputies that were engaged in that in that process too. 01:09:57
One player to make in this family goes back way far in that peasant. 01:10:02
So, so anyway, I just wanted to highlight that because I think it's it, it is one of the it's a smaller. 01:10:07
But it's a very big draw. 01:10:13
So people come here and they go to Ruidoso, they go to other places. 01:10:15
And you can even drink good beer there. 01:10:20
And we're hoping some of the other places that are for sale that I'm carrying, they're getting nibbles. 01:10:24
The Dolan house has been vacant for some time. 01:10:29
We the the biggest. 01:10:32
Drawback, I guess, of the problem that Lincoln has is that. 01:10:35
No food? No, there's water, but there's no food. 01:10:39
You know, so people come, they don't really expect that, so they don't really have anything to do. 01:10:42
That a man and his wife from. 01:10:47
Mathia, they own a Billy the Kid gift shop in Mathia and they've opened one in Lincoln and so they're going to start putting 01:10:50
together sack lunches or something like that for people that come to town. So that'll. 01:10:56
To help people stay a little longer and then stay in the county a little longer. 01:11:02
OK. Any any questions or comments? 01:11:07
Thank you so much. Well, I hope you approve this again and again. Thank you so much. We really appreciate it. 01:11:12
You're very welcome. Thank you for everything you all do. 01:11:19
Since since we pulled this out of the consent items. 01:11:21
Placed at this point, this one, I think we could. 01:11:26
You can entertain a motion to approve it. 01:11:29
#5. 01:11:32
What do you want to do? 01:11:36
How you doing, Fisher? We can do that and prove it in the original. 01:11:37
Yeah, I think we could. 01:11:41
I'll entertain a motion to approve this $5000. 01:11:45
Largest tax award for the Billboard. 01:11:49
Mr. Chairman, make a motion that we approve the request of $5000 from the Friends of Historic Lincoln County. 01:11:53
Were there billboard? 01:12:00
Thank you. Second. 01:12:01
Nancock Rocker, please. 01:12:04
Commissioner Chavez. 01:12:07
Yes, Commissioner Prater. 01:12:08
Aye. 01:12:10
Commissioner Wilson. Yes, sure. Fisher. 01:12:11
All right. OK. Thank you. I just want to do that while you were still here. 01:12:13
We don't have to talk again. 01:12:18
All right, great. 01:12:23
All right, so next. 01:12:25
Um, elected officials. 01:12:27
1st, we don't have senior services. 01:12:31
So we'll move on to that. 01:12:33
And Sheriff Wood, would you like to say a few words about your activities last month, last meeting and how things are going? 01:12:35
Sir, Sir, Mr. Chairman. 01:12:45
Michael, would you like? 01:12:49
Have a exciting announcement to make? 01:12:52
First time ever first. 01:12:56
History of the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office. 01:12:57
We have a school resource. 01:13:00
Tipping problem now. 01:13:02
So yeah. 01:13:04
A lot of that is due to you. 01:13:07
A seated Board of Commissioners that supports. 01:13:11
Their law enforcement, So I couldn't have done it without you. 01:13:14
It was high time we're going to focus primarily on the Corona schools. 01:13:17
And the Honda rule? 01:13:21
Do the geographic so. 01:13:24
We're excited about that. 01:13:25
So we're having to share it's. 01:13:27
We're finding our way, but again, we want to thank you for your support. 01:13:29
You helped make that happen, so. 01:13:33
I'll share briefly with you some stats generated by my office since we met last. 01:13:35
Needed 15 motor vehicle accidents. 01:13:42
Affected. 01:13:46
26 arrests. 01:13:47
After 296 calls for service. 01:13:49
And I only received 36 zipper requests so wow. 01:13:54
Man. 01:13:57
In our world, we all know what I'm talking about, right? 01:14:00
So I stand for questions. 01:14:03
How have you, I guess the question I have we we made a big effort last year. 01:14:08
To significantly. 01:14:13
Improve the compensation for your deputies with the hope that. 01:14:15
Recruitment retention would be improved. 01:14:20
Do you have any comments on that? 01:14:23
We're definitely seeing an impact to that. We're getting, we're generally we're getting some attention we haven't. 01:14:26
That I have to attribute. 01:14:31
To that right there that's. 01:14:33
So what it's all about? 01:14:34
You know, it's all about the money. We're sitting here talking a while ago about CDL drivers. 01:14:36
And what you're going to do, you're talking about benefits and. 01:14:41
Showcasing your equipment, that's all you got. 01:14:46
You don't have a big paycheck. Those are what you're limited to do. So I don't know how he. 01:14:49
Manages to do that. That's a. 01:14:55
That driver's license is much like. 01:14:58
Our certification with the state. 01:15:00
With the state it is a. 01:15:02
The sought after commodity if you aren't competing with. 01:15:04
The 80 County Road department or the. 01:15:09
Luna County Road Department, you're not into it. 01:15:11
You're a stepping stone for them to go somewhere else. 01:15:14
And we see that in law enforcement all the time. 01:15:19
Smart. And I'm guilty of it. I started back when I started with the Dexter Marshall's office. It was a three man gig, right? There 01:15:23
was three of us. 01:15:26
Work general hours, four on, four off, seven days a week. 01:15:30
That's how we did it. 01:15:35
And then when the door opened, we moved. 01:15:37
We went on and I'm like. 01:15:40
Jeez, you guys paid by the month here? The sheriff office? No, that's two weeks or. 01:15:42
I'm thinking my God. 01:15:47
So they're in the same boat. 01:15:48
Absolutely. 01:15:50
And those drivers that jobs require CDL? 01:15:52
On a state or county level there. 01:15:55
You're lucky to have when you got a sweet and fine. You don't have a choice with. 01:15:57
To answer your question, yeah, you got some. 01:16:01
Something you got people's attention with that? 01:16:04
When it's open up. 01:16:07
It's the housing. 01:16:08
It's it's the housing, and he's gonna feel it, too. 01:16:10
Everybody is. 01:16:14
I had to relax my requirement. Deputy sheriff's lip here. 01:16:16
But when Mark Fisher or Timothy Franklin needs a sheriff, step to be honest. 01:16:19
Porch, you don't care where he lives. 01:16:23
So I've had to relax it. You can now live 50 miles from nearest county line. That's. 01:16:26
All right, well, during your. 01:16:32
All the way, Bulls Acres. 01:16:35
I have to do the math on a stancia but maybe? 01:16:37
Bond for sure. 01:16:41
But that's where I'm at. 01:16:42
That's where he's at. I know it is. 01:16:44
That's where the county's at. 01:16:46
So welcome aboard of these ladies you we were introduced to. 01:16:48
A moment ago that you've got people willing to come do it on county wages. 01:16:51
These days. 01:16:55
It's a struggle, it's challenge. 01:16:57
So, but we are up. 01:17:01
We're looking at a couple of. 01:17:02
One certified or one uncertified? We've got some applications in. 01:17:06
So that's. 01:17:11
Put the word out. 01:17:13
We are on a recruitment campaign. 01:17:14
And around here, I'm zeroing in. I'm focusing in. 01:17:17
On locals. 01:17:21
Kiddos, kids who just graduated college that. 01:17:24
Wouldn't mind. 01:17:27
Or has a dream of standing behind. 01:17:29
What I consider to be the most famous badge. 01:17:31
In the country, period, bar none, this is the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office. 01:17:34
I'm looking for some folks from up younger. 01:17:39
And your sons and daughters will take care of getting the best training equipment. 01:17:42
Work environment. 01:17:46
You could ask for that's what I need. 01:17:48
Those people who already know the geographics. 01:17:50
They know the county. 01:17:53
Than other people. 01:17:54
That's what I need. 01:17:56
Hard working ranch kids. 01:17:58
Some of those kids already vested in this county. 01:18:00
Come aboard, we'll be good to him. 01:18:03
I guarantee you that that's what we're focusing on. 01:18:06
So there's just a little bit of what we're doing. 01:18:10
We are not as. 01:18:12
In bad shape is. 01:18:14
Our other agencies in this county. 01:18:15
It's a struggle, it's impacting. 01:18:19
The municipality. 01:18:22
The municipal Police Department. 01:18:23
That whole housing. 01:18:26
Challenge. 01:18:27
But we're going to get through it because I guarantee you. Just give me a chance. 01:18:29
On some of these people that live in Roswell, you work up here for just a short amount of time and you're going to want to live 01:18:33
here. 01:18:36
It's paradise, too. 01:18:40
So thank you Sir, Hope I answered your question. 01:18:42
Thank you, Sir. Thank you, Thank you. 01:18:45
I'll wait till the treasurers report. 01:18:51
Okay, Mr. Assessor. 01:18:54
Good morning, Jeff Fisher, Commissioners. 01:18:57
He was more Lincoln County assessor. 01:19:03
We don't have too much going on other than our day-to-day operations. 01:19:05
As Vanessa mentioned, we did hire. 01:19:09
2 new employees which may anticipate to start on Monday so. 01:19:12
Of course that hopefully by that again. 01:19:16
One thing that I did want to mention is that Treasury, Huddersfield and I are working this week really hard in conjunction. 01:19:18
She'll get these. 01:19:25
Approval rates entered into our system. 01:19:27
There's quite a few administrative processes that need to take place on our side and their site. 01:19:30
So George and I will probably need to step out of the meeting a little early today. 01:19:34
Make sure that it's done by Thursday's midnight. 01:19:38
And really all I got. 01:19:41
I do have questions. Do you do you have any more visibility on the impact of the? 01:19:44
The change in exemptions from. 01:19:51
For veterans. 01:19:53
You do not. Actually we started receiving some of those. We received on yesterday again a 90%. 01:19:55
But we are we as an affiliate, as the assessors office, we're still waiting on PTD to issue. 01:20:01
English language know exactly how to. 01:20:07
How to empathize? 01:20:09
These exemptions because we don't know. 01:20:11
You don't know. 01:20:13
From from what we're understanding. 01:20:16
Our lawyers interpretation of the statute is. 01:20:20
Stating that if. 01:20:23
A property is owned in joint tenancy. 01:20:25
Then the the property is owned 50% by the spouse, 50% by the other spouse. 01:20:28
So. 01:20:34
That exemption would only be applicable to 50% of the ownership. 01:20:35
Of that property. So if it's $100,000 property. 01:20:39
It'll only apply to 50,000 of that. 01:20:43
But the Veterans Service Commission. 01:20:45
Season otherwise they just wanted. 01:20:48
So we don't know. 01:20:52
What is Trust? 01:20:54
I'm sorry, what if it's held in trust? 01:20:56
If it's held in trust, I believe it's. 01:20:58
I believe it applies to the entire trust. 01:21:01
According to what staffing needs now, but that's that's some of the language that's going to have to be. 01:21:04
You have to be. I don't know. 01:21:10
I've been had some some. 01:21:13
Conversations with the PT director. 01:21:15
There we go. And, uh. 01:21:18
We're kind of pushing on bait. We are just. 01:21:20
We're not going to do it until we have direction. You don't know. 01:21:23
OK. Any other questions, Commission. 01:21:28
Well, thank you, Sir. Thank you. I think maybe the clerks going to be very busy when people start changing the ownership when 01:21:32
somebody is. 01:21:35
When they figure that out. 01:21:40
Madam Clerk. 01:21:51
Mr. Shark, the Shore Commissioners. 01:21:53
We're in the midst of another election. 01:21:55
This is gonna be the regular local election, which is the schools. 01:21:58
The strong water conservation districts. The water and sanitation districts. 01:22:01
And all of the municipalities except 3 doses will be holding their own election. 01:22:05
This Saturday is when it starts. We're going to be sending out the military and oversee ballots starting this Saturday. 01:22:10
So they have time to complete them and get them back to us by Election Day. 01:22:14
We also have about 530 voters who have signed up. 01:22:18
For the permanent absentee list. 01:22:22
And then we have some of the regular absentee ballots. So we're going to start sending out absentee ballots on October. 01:22:24
October 7th is also the first day for early voting, and that's in our office. 01:22:30
And then early voting and results will begin on October 18th. 01:22:35
And then Election Day is obviously November 4th. We do have bookmarks available in the story out there if anybody would like to 01:22:39
take some. 01:22:42
Date times and locations of voting, and we're trying to get that information. 01:22:46
So that everybody can get their their valid cast sometimes. 01:22:50
I also wanted to thank everyone for getting us moved in 20 locations. 01:22:54
Starting with the Commission and the county manager authorizing and facilitating the purchase of the building. 01:22:58
We had Jesse in the road department. He spent a couple hours helping us move desks. 01:23:03
Even though he was sick that day for guys. 01:23:07
The biggest thank you, though, goes to Matt and for all of his help over the last few weeks. 01:23:11
He was painted, he laid tiles, he made desks. 01:23:16
He went above and beyond, making sure that we had what we. 01:23:18
What we needed and we were ready for the customers. 01:23:21
There are others that helped along the way. 01:23:23
And I can't name them all, but I hope that they know how much I appreciate them. 01:23:26
I'd also like to thank my staff. 01:23:29
For everything that they handled and went for over the last few weeks. 01:23:31
It was a lot. 01:23:35
Change is hard, but they did make my vision a reality and for that I'm thankful. 01:23:37
The. 01:23:43
And may not have agreed with everything I wanted to do, but they did it and. 01:23:46
And I'm very grateful for that. 01:23:50
And I would like to invite everybody to come over and. 01:23:53
Our building, whatever, the meeting is over. 01:23:55
Thank you. 01:23:58
Very good. And one of the key things to that is it's going to facilitate. 01:24:00
Harvard Public. 01:24:05
To go in there. 01:24:06
Unencumbered, right? That was a. That was one big point of that move. 01:24:08
The other the other part of that too is that now it opens up space. 01:24:13
At at this courthouse over there. 01:24:18
And that's going to allow us to do more work with that two-story monstrosity that we. 01:24:21
Have next door to us. 01:24:26
Because it will open up the ability. 01:24:28
To move people around like those games, you know? 01:24:30
And we can do the work there. 01:24:33
And then we can move on to somewhere else, so. 01:24:35
It it's all part of a plan. 01:24:38
Fuzzy right there. 01:24:41
Thank you. 01:24:43
OK. 01:24:45
Probate Judge. 01:24:47
Madam Judge, how are you? 01:24:51
Commissioner. 01:24:53
Rhonda Burrows probate does. 01:24:55
Thank you for this, these are lovely. 01:24:57
I'm a. 01:24:59
I'm sort of the 12th man on this team. On this football team, I'm the 10th. I left it official. 01:25:00
And uh. 01:25:06
I just wanted to take a moment to. 01:25:07
Echo what the clerk said and thank you for working with the county manager. 01:25:09
And. 01:25:13
Providing. 01:25:15
Lovely space for the clerk's office and also for the probate judge. 01:25:16
And one of the benefits to my process is. 01:25:20
There's actually a place where you can meet in private with people when they come to discuss issues that they may or may not have 01:25:23
with probate. 01:25:26
So I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for that and. 01:25:30
And I echo everything Shannon said. The staff and. 01:25:33
Matt has done a terrific job and done a lot of good work working, Sir, but I really appreciate that and it facilitates, you know, 01:25:36
access to the. 01:25:41
Also, I just wanted to mention that. 01:25:49
I don't attend regularly. We're actually discouraged by the judiciary from participating in these types of events. And so that's 01:25:51
not why I'm not here on a regular basis. It's not out of any. 01:25:56
Sign of disrespect for the Commission. 01:26:01
Plus, I have to confess, I sat through about 16 years the Commission meeting, so I don't always miss it, but it's always 01:26:04
informative and I appreciate being here. 01:26:08
Just listening to the various conversations, one thing I wanted to comment on. 01:26:13
I'm glad that we are redoing the website. 01:26:18
I I just. 01:26:21
Never liked the website that we had transitioned over to this. 01:26:22
Whatever version of that it was. 01:26:26
And I just want to bring up a point that. 01:26:29
And talking, hearing. 01:26:31
Former Commissioner Allen speak about Lincoln. 01:26:33
You know the clerk is in possession of probably the most valuable records collection in the country. 01:26:35
And years ago we had a lot of those historic documents scanned. 01:26:41
And made available through the website. 01:26:46
And when they transition to the new website, that kind of all got buried in the background. 01:26:48
And one of the things that I would. 01:26:53
Recommend is that we. 01:26:54
Create a process to make that more available, because I'll tell you when we first posted those on the website. 01:26:56
Whenever back in the. 01:27:02
Back in the day. 01:27:04
We had more hits. 01:27:05
To that, we actually had to put in an extra firewall because we had hits from every almost every single country around the world. 01:27:06
To that website to view those documents. 01:27:13
And so we talked about it as an economic development factor because it draws attention to Lincoln County, which is very famous 01:27:16
anyway. 01:27:19
So I would urge you as you go through that process to develop the website to. 01:27:24
To make a better. 01:27:28
Link to those historic documents and maybe even. 01:27:30
Highlight one or two of those as we go along. And the clerk and I have talked about that. I'm really big on the preservation and 01:27:32
maintenance of those historic documents, so. 01:27:37
That's just a suggestion. 01:27:41
But we did I we used to track that on Google Analytics and we actually had more. 01:27:43
Hits to those documents than to any website related to Lincoln County in the country. 01:27:47
So that tells you the power of that history. 01:27:53
And the the way you can be employed for economic development and promotion of the county. 01:27:55
Other than that I would stand for. I do. Just to mention I do keep regular hours at the clerks office. I'm here every Wednesday. 01:28:02
For for my position and my job, but. 01:28:09
If there's ever anything I can do or if you would like me to come. 01:28:12
For a Commission to do, I'm happy to do that. 01:28:16
But that's why I don't attend regularly, because it's sort of discouraged by the judiciary. 01:28:19
So let's stand for any questions. 01:28:25
Any questions? 01:28:29
Come in. But you're more than welcome to come. 01:28:30
And you could maintain your anonymity. 01:28:34
You can just kind of hide in the corner. 01:28:37
And if you have something good to say like this, we appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate that. It's not. I laugh. I said this dog 01:28:39
gave me this job so I would stop talking. 01:28:43
Because most of the people that know me know I haven't worked, yeah. 01:28:49
But thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, Jeff. 01:28:53
OK, County Manager. 01:28:57
I also want to skip you but. 01:29:00
Sorry, uh. 01:29:02
You'd have probably been doing me a favor if you would have, but. 01:29:05
No in All in all. Actually I do want to just. 01:29:07
So give some kudos. All this and. 01:29:11
All of our. 01:29:14
Contract employees are here you can see our. 01:29:15
Our dynamics changing. 01:29:18
And it's changing for the better. 01:29:20
So I think this is what we were tasked with is to create a team that works. 01:29:22
And we are moving in that direction and I really want to appreciate all the efforts and the folks that are supporting that effort. 01:29:26
We have several projects going on. 01:29:34
Throughout the county that we'll talk about here a little more detail later. 01:29:35
Lots of moving parts. 01:29:40
So with that, just to thank you and. 01:29:42
I think that's all I have. 01:29:46
So stand up for questions. 01:29:48
Questions or comments? 01:29:50
This is our. 01:29:54
Newly appointed, contracted A. 01:29:56
County Attorney, this is Miss Alexander Bobbitt. 01:29:59
And we're thrilled she's on too. So. 01:30:01
There you go. Welcome. 01:30:04
Thank you for having me. 01:30:05
Have some other introductions as we go through today with presentations. 01:30:09
I want to invite the county commissioners to make some comments or talk about. 01:30:14
The things that they've done. 01:30:19
The last month. 01:30:20
I think you're interested in. 01:30:22
You want to talk about and. 01:30:24
And I'm gonna bug Mr. Wilson first. 01:30:25
At this point, Mr. Mr. Chairman. 01:30:30
So I've had some interaction with. 01:30:34
The association of counties. 01:30:37
Keeping us a positive stuff. 01:30:39
That could benefit. 01:30:40
On some channels, etcetera. 01:30:42
Had those conversations with. 01:30:45
Or manager early on. 01:30:47
In a month after last week. 01:30:48
Other than that. 01:30:51
Voter Report. 01:30:53
Thank you. Thank you. 01:30:56
Commissioner Wilson. Mr. Chavez. 01:30:58
How about a great concern about the water? 01:31:00
Situation we're having. 01:31:02
In Hondo Hondo Valley. 01:31:04
Women always get somebody. 01:31:08
To take a look at that. 01:31:10
And see why. 01:31:12
It's happening. 01:31:14
I believe that. 01:31:15
I've talked to a few people and I believe that. 01:31:16
A lot of it is the. 01:31:18
Graphite and all that stuff that's in there. 01:31:20
It's blocking a lot of them. 01:31:22
Permeation. 01:31:25
And I also like to thank. 01:31:28
All the county. 01:31:29
The people. 01:31:31
Behind the scenes and everything else for what they do. 01:31:33
Unrecognized. 01:31:36
Thank you, Sir. 01:31:39
Hey there, I'd like to yield my tongue. 01:31:42
OK, so so done. 01:31:45
I'll just take the time to echo Commissioner Chavez's comments. 01:31:48
All of your all's hard work and. 01:31:52
Lens that you've been demonstrating from. 01:31:54
There and our Office of Emergency Services and the road department and facilities. 01:31:58
All of your efforts are really shining bright, I can tell you that. 01:32:05
The community is seeing a huge impact for the better and I just want to tell you that hats off and I appreciate your hard work day 01:32:09
in and day off. 01:32:12
Thank you man. 01:32:18
I I would emphasize everything that's been set up here. 01:32:23
I would say a couple of things. 01:32:26
I've noticed a particularly strong. 01:32:30
Improvement. 01:32:33
In in the morale and the effectiveness of the county. 01:32:35
County folks. 01:32:39
And that comes from leadership. 01:32:41
It comes from the ability to. 01:32:43
Have a vision. 01:32:45
Be consistent. 01:32:47
Fair and clear. 01:32:49
And I think it makes a big difference. 01:32:52
Obvious in my mind. 01:32:54
And what I see, I'd really appreciate that. 01:32:56
Jason for what you brought to the table. 01:32:59
Very impressive. 01:33:01
Sometimes I feel like we got to put a bit in your mouth to slow you down. 01:33:03
That's good. 01:33:09
It's very good. That's right. 01:33:10
That's right. 01:33:16
But but it it is important, it's important to recognize that. 01:33:24
Because it did. 01:33:27
It really impacts everything and you're going to see, I think in the. 01:33:28
The rest of the agenda, you're going to see some fruits of that. 01:33:34
As we move forward now, having said. 01:33:37
That I want to move on to one of the things. 01:33:39
And I'm going to bring it bring it up in in open forum because. 01:33:42
Something that I think we. 01:33:47
Could get behind as a Commission. 01:33:49
I've made some efforts and they've not been very fruitful. 01:33:52
And trying to ascertain. 01:33:56
The exact wells. 01:33:58
Impacted down there in the valley. 01:34:01
I told a lot of people down there, most of them are my friends. 01:34:04
But they they don't believe they're going to get help and they just go ahead and. 01:34:07
And take care of these things on their own. 01:34:10
Some unfortunately don't have the wherewithal. 01:34:13
To do that. 01:34:16
We're talking about wells that could be almost. 01:34:18
Over 100 years old, some hand. 01:34:20
7080 hundred feet. 01:34:23
And they're going dry adjacent to the river. 01:34:25
And and I think. 01:34:29
Your assessment as to why that's happening, you know, coincidence. 01:34:30
Doesn't necessarily prove causality. 01:34:33
But we know that the problems with these wells occurred. 01:34:37
Right after the last year's floods and subsequent floods this year. 01:34:40
And so when you look. 01:34:45
You walk that river and you see that debris and the silt and the sediment there and and and. 01:34:47
Mr. Wilson is an expert in this. 01:34:53
You can understand. 01:34:55
How a seal can form in the bottom of a river with that material? 01:34:58
And that literally prevents the percolation of the water that recharges those wells. 01:35:03
Normally. 01:35:10
So they're not recharging the way they should and they're needed to so that. 01:35:11
The demands on the wells exceed that. 01:35:15
The rates of percolation. 01:35:17
So I I guess what I'm asking for is I'd like to get some help. 01:35:20
Uh, maybe from one of our departments or a couple. 01:35:25
And actually put a task force or a task team. 01:35:28
Together to actually knock on doors. 01:35:32
Knock on doors. 01:35:35
And we've got match. We know where these wells are. You can go on the office. 01:35:38
United State Engineers Office, You know where the wells are. 01:35:41
And actually go and talk to these people and figure out who's got problems when the dates. 01:35:44
Of the province commenced. 01:35:49
Are they? Is it improving? 01:35:51
And then from that, that data set can be used to try to get some help. 01:35:53
From the state. 01:35:58
So that's something I would like to get support from the Commission. 01:36:00
Actually. 01:36:05
Designate a couple of people, Jason. 01:36:06
To actually start this and get this, get this done, I've got. 01:36:09
I've got some information from. 01:36:13
From DHS em. 01:36:16
That suggests they might be able to help out some of these people. 01:36:18
And we don't have time. 01:36:22
And they're suffering. That's right. 01:36:24
So so if I can get a nod. 01:36:26
I'd like to make another comment. 01:36:29
Yes, so. 01:36:31
Personal experience. 01:36:33
Well down in the valley. 01:36:35
My father. 01:36:36
When it started aerating. 01:36:38
First, you know, four months ago. 01:36:40
Picking up air into the pump so. 01:36:44
I mean, and that was a well that was not. 01:36:47
Over 90 years old, I believe this well, was still case. 01:36:51
And it was not a. 01:36:55
On the register at the State. 01:36:57
State level so. 01:36:59
May have to knock on doors. 01:37:01
For people that. 01:37:02
Have wealth and overall. 01:37:04
You know, 80 to 100 years old to. 01:37:05
Yeah. So, so maybe we can talk about this offline, but I'm getting nods. 01:37:07
And the Commission, and I'm going to. 01:37:13
Work with with the county manager to make sure we get this done. 01:37:16
In short order. 01:37:20
OK. And and then you had, I mean, so then you had to read drill the well? 01:37:22
Yes. So somewhere else. 01:37:27
We moved the we moved the well 25 feet. The well was 80 foot deep at one time. 01:37:29
And now it's at 160 feet. 01:37:33
Yeah, so double what it was before. 01:37:36
OK. All right. With that, I'd like to take a like a recess for 10 minutes, 10 minutes. 01:37:40
20 after. 01:37:50
Like a bio break if you need one or whatever. 01:37:52
So the next item on the agenda? 01:37:57
Presentation by Universal Waste Systems regarding Lincoln County solid waste. 01:38:06
Mr. Manager, please. 01:38:11
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners. 01:38:13
We've asked EWS Universal Waste Systems. 01:38:15
To come in and just give us a. 01:38:19
Presentation update around their current operations that they do for us. They are our current solid waste contractor. 01:38:22
And we've. 01:38:31
Been kicking around the idea of. 01:38:34
How we can restructure this in conjunction with them to? 01:38:37
Ensure that we're improving illegal dumping and I know it's quite a challenge. 01:38:41
But we'll go ahead and let her give her presentation and then we'll stand for any questions. And this is Miss Greg and Vaughn. 01:38:45
And Mr. Ernie buyers in the audience so. 01:38:51
With that, we'll turn it over to you. 01:38:54
Thank you so much. 01:38:56
Good morning. 01:38:57
Mr. Chairman and Commissioner, it's good to see you again and be in front of you, and we do have a brief PowerPoint we'd like to 01:38:58
answer. 01:39:01
Basically it's a lot of statistics just to update you on current operations and maybe some things that you. 01:39:05
Didn't know about what we do. 01:39:11
And so and so. 01:39:13
Thank you, Sir. 01:39:16
The universal waste system. 01:39:17
Is a family owned business. We've been in business over 30 years now. 01:39:19
The corporation has grown into a. 01:39:23
A sizable corporation we. 01:39:25
Provide service in three states. 01:39:27
But being that it's still a family owned business. 01:39:30
They give us a lot of leeway in terms of. 01:39:32
Structuring our programs. 01:39:35
To fit the area that we serve, it's not just A1 size at all and they also. 01:39:37
Really encourage us to start building a lot of community relationships and partnerships which. 01:39:42
You know, being an. 01:39:47
My former career in public service, I really love that because we really get to get involved in the community. 01:39:49
And get to know y'all and what the priorities of the communities are. 01:39:55
And it's. 01:39:59
It really makes my job a lot of fun. 01:40:00
We do operate facilities. 01:40:03
Throughout the state. 01:40:06
And in our other areas, including landfill transfer stations, greenways, collection centers, recycling facilities. 01:40:07
Complex facilities. 01:40:14
And collection vehicle manufacturing. 01:40:16
When we did. 01:40:19
We're honored with this contract. We did acquire Sierra. 01:40:20
Contacting home the country prior to us. 01:40:24
And. 01:40:26
As doing that there were no lots of local jobs. 01:40:27
And then? 01:40:31
Finally, we have added a registered air carton burner facility. 01:40:32
At our yard here. 01:40:37
In response. 01:40:38
To the fire cleanups. 01:40:39
And the mitigation and everything that's been going on. 01:40:41
Then we invested in not believing that it absolutely helped the recovery time be expedited. 01:40:44
As there didn't have to be a lot of separate storage. 01:40:51
Like temporary storage facilities for all this green waste. 01:40:54
And then all the direct calling to landfills. 01:40:57
With you know that does take a lot of time as the nearest Lance. 01:41:00
Each over 80 miles away. 01:41:03
And so in doing this, we help. 01:41:05
We feel like we've really helped come. 01:41:06
Feed that process along and provide a valuable resource. 01:41:09
To the county. 01:41:12
I'll keep moving. 01:41:21
OK. So for our New Mexico operations, we have 7, I'm sorry, 8 New Mexico offices in yards. 01:41:23
They're listed right there. 01:41:28
We have. 01:41:30
7 facilities that we operate in the state. 01:41:33
From transfer stations to landfills. 01:41:37
So the facilities we have here, composting, air curtain burn. 01:41:39
Centers, et cetera. 01:41:43
And then we hold 13 local government contacts in the state. 01:41:44
In terms of our account. 01:41:48
That we service here with us. 01:41:51
To as our last counting. 01:41:53
Last week we were at 4017. 01:41:55
Accounts. We did lose 497 accounts. 01:41:58
During the fires. 01:42:01
And just because I had the information up, I just decided to do a little. 01:42:03
Data analysis and SO 70. 01:42:07
When we receive our information from the Assessor's office, we receive mailing addresses. 01:42:09
As of all the customers that we have, 75% of those do have mailing addresses. 01:42:13
Here in Lincoln. 01:42:19
We work daily with the assessor's office to update our account, so when anybody goes in and there's a change in property ownership 01:42:21
etcetera. 01:42:25
Then Leroy and his people are just wonderful. We work closely with Dina and Tendai Leroy and so we do our best. 01:42:29
Reconciled every single day to make sure that our billing is. 01:42:36
I have some questions. Just go back to. 01:42:40
Previous one please. 01:42:43
So, residential accounts, 4017. 01:42:45
Is that that's contracted, right? We've contracted with you. 01:42:49
Yes, and so. 01:42:52
So. 01:42:54
The 497 accounts that we've lost. 01:42:55
Since last year. 01:43:00
We're you're, we're still paying, we're paying you for those accounts. That's the. 01:43:02
Make up for this. 01:43:07
Threw up pieces that I mean this is a question, right? So so. 01:43:08
So I. 01:43:13
So the question. 01:43:14
We've lost the accounts which means. 01:43:15
For whatever reason. 01:43:18
Those those buildings are burned out, flooded out, what have you. 01:43:21
And but from a. 01:43:26
Contract standpoint. 01:43:28
You're getting paid. 01:43:31
4 Four, 4017. 01:43:32
Accounts correct? 01:43:35
We, Mr. Chairman, the 4017 are the the number of accounts that we built. 01:43:36
The 497 accounts that were removed from the tax rolls no longer received billing. 01:43:42
The true up is. 01:43:46
Strictly based. 01:43:48
On past few accounts. 01:43:49
And those. 01:43:51
The 497 are not included in that. 01:43:52
So. 01:44:00
So you're. 01:44:02
Your receipts. 01:44:04
Whether they come from a true up standpoint. 01:44:06
Or they're paid by the. 01:44:09
The people that you're sending bills out. 01:44:11
IS 4017 -, 497. 01:44:14
Is that true? No. 01:44:17
Mr. Chairman, our original numbers were closer to 5000. 01:44:19
When we took over the contract, I'm sorry, 4500. 01:44:24
When I took over the contract so. 01:44:27
We lost the 497. 01:44:29
Last year. 01:44:32
OK. So our baseline on the contract is 4017, is that true? 01:44:35
At this time, yes, they fluctuate as properties are sold. 01:44:39
You know, or become. 01:44:43
So you don't have a guaranteed minimum. 01:44:45
In the contract. 01:44:48
For the mailing address is a 3004. I mean this is not. I'm not trying to just. 01:44:50
Want to understand this? 01:44:56
Does that mean that? 01:44:59
You know 1013. 01:45:01
Are not being billed. 01:45:03
Mr. Chairman, Nope. What that means is the 3004 mailing addresses that are actually within Lincoln County. 01:45:07
We you know. 01:45:14
When I run an active services report, the information that comes. 01:45:16
From. 01:45:19
So, Lincoln County Assessor's Office. 01:45:20
Is mainly. 01:45:22
And So what? When I ran that report, I just sorted it. 01:45:24
By city and state. 01:45:28
And So what this means to me is that 3000. 01:45:29
Four of those. 01:45:33
Of the 4017 accounts actually live here in Lincoln County. 01:45:35
I just thought that was interesting, you know? So you're saying that. 01:45:39
The other thousand reside elsewhere and have. 01:45:42
Properties here in Lincoln County. 01:45:45
That they do pay solid waste for. 01:45:47
However, they don't have a mailing address. 01:45:49
Indicating that they may not live here full time they've received. 01:45:51
Their mail in other cities numbers inconsequential with respect to the contract in terms it is. I just thought it was no, it just 01:45:55
seems. 01:45:59
What is our makeup? 01:46:09
Per quarter. 01:46:10
In other words, what is the county? 01:46:13
True the true up. Thank you. 01:46:15
Trula, I will have to look. I didn't bring those numbers with me. We do those on a biannual basis. 01:46:17
They're done twice per year, so there's been 3 so far. 01:46:24
And. 01:46:27
And they are going down. 01:46:28
Because recently each time. 01:46:30
Has seen those those invoices in and I'll be happy to bring them to you. I have those in my office if you let me go get them real 01:46:34
quick. 01:46:37
Just apologize, I didn't. I think I think this is important because what I'm what I'm looking for is what is the? 01:46:42
The overhead to the county. 01:46:48
No, not and I'm I'm excluding. 01:46:51
The individual subscribers, but what does the county? 01:46:54
Have to have to pay to continue. 01:46:58
The services that. 01:47:01
Weekend, that's all, and I think that's important for the people to know. 01:47:02
OK, absolutely. 01:47:06
And just real quick to just. 01:47:08
Finish out this little section. 01:47:10
So the rate currently is $30.00 per month and. 01:47:12
For that $30, customers basically receive unlimited trash dumping capacity. 01:47:15
Because they can use. 01:47:20
Whether they're a polycarp customer or using the. 01:47:22
The contractors or the. 01:47:25
They can, basically. 01:47:27
You know, as much as they want and those, it's not like they're confined. 01:47:28
Like you are municipalities to just. 01:47:32
The one little polycarp or whatever. 01:47:34
They Lincoln County customers residing in the unincorporated area. 01:47:38
Also can bring their large items and their greenways to our yard at no charge. 01:47:42
We do they also receive. 01:47:46
Access to 18. 01:47:48
Community and greenways cleanups. We do 16 community and then two biannual greenways cleanup. 01:47:50
And then though, the contract did allow for a CPI increase in 2025. 01:47:55
Our ownership of. 01:48:01
You know, elected not to. 01:48:03
Request to ask you know, let me ask you a question on. 01:48:04
On the. 01:48:07
Unincorporated residents. 01:48:09
Being able to dump. 01:48:12
At your yard, right? 01:48:13
Are there any limitations with respect to? 01:48:17
So. So I'll be very specific. 01:48:20
We had a. 01:48:23
One of our citizens came in and and. 01:48:25
Pointed out at Bill and I pause it don't have it with me, but. 01:48:27
It it seemed like it was a very small amount of material. 01:48:31
Do you remember that? 01:48:35
Manager browser and. 01:48:37
And he was charged almost $10.00 for it. He claimed it was. 01:48:39
About 1 yard. 01:48:43
But it included, you know, some 2 by fours and. 01:48:46
Maybe some drywall is that? Is that an excluded? 01:48:50
I guess they were. 01:48:53
Where they were considering considering it commercial waste even though. 01:48:55
You know, he was not a contractor. He was. 01:48:59
Working on his house. 01:49:02
Right. So, so you guys charge? 01:49:04
That would be more of an earning question. I don't believe we don't charge for household. 01:49:07
Generated. 01:49:12
Add waste things typically you put in your kitchen bag. 01:49:13
If they're cleaning your garage or. 01:49:17
Turn down a barn. 01:49:19
That's another thing. 01:49:20
In charge for that? Absolutely. 01:49:21
And we we got a lot of those torn down. 01:49:25
Materials. 01:49:28
They had dumped at the. 01:49:29
Good answer site. It's and I think we're going and they. 01:49:31
There. Well, it's not free there. No, I mean, it's not free there. 01:49:35
About for them. 01:49:40
Nothing free. 01:49:41
Is that correct? 01:49:42
I get. 01:49:44
But. 01:49:45
We're talking. We're talking about it. I don't want to. 01:49:47
Dragged this conversation too much longer, but it is important. 01:49:49
We're trying to eliminate or reduce and the guys. 01:49:54
The fact that you send your. 01:49:58
Cruise out to clean up those. 01:50:00
That illegal dumping which is occurring. 01:50:02
And it is very helpful, right? And if it's clean? 01:50:05
People don't tend to necessarily brought something, but if it's dirty, oh it's a dump site. 01:50:10
I'll dump it all day long. 01:50:15
And I see that. 01:50:17
In my little world. 01:50:18
Out there. 01:50:19
Penny and Arabella. 01:50:20
But my point is that we might be. 01:50:23
Driving some of that illegal behavior because people don't want to go to the dump. 01:50:26
And pay. 01:50:31
I think that's something we might consider. 01:50:33
Is it? Is it more cost effective to move some of that directly to your yard? 01:50:36
3 or 4. 01:50:41
You see my point? I do, Mr. Chairman, and. 01:50:45
Mr. Burns and I've had a conversation about this and we're going to get together in the next few weeks. 01:50:48
And try to come up with a plan. 01:50:53
As it is right now, people are creature of habits. 01:50:55
I've been dropping it off here, my neighbor dropped it off here. It's going to continue. 01:50:58
Just so you know. 01:51:04
Comparison side by side, month to month. 01:51:06
The illegal doping has increased over 40%. 01:51:09
From this time last year. 01:51:12
Then we. Oh, I'm sorry. 01:51:13
By the way, great. 01:51:17
Improvement, improvement. 01:51:19
So there's a. 01:51:20
A lot going on. 01:51:21
We've it's kind of like when you go into a. 01:51:23
Grocery store. 01:51:27
And you go to the meat department and they don't, you don't have their meat. 01:51:28
Everybody says, hey, we're out of that meat, but when you go. 01:51:32
If someone's there, you don't notice it. 01:51:35
So as the. 01:51:38
Dumpsters get full. 01:51:39
We try to service every dumpster in the minimum of 1, so everything does get services at least once a week. 01:51:41
Our drivers have a route she. 01:51:47
It's now signed dated. 01:51:49
Picture statement. 01:51:51
So we're really trying to keep track. 01:51:53
Any illegal company. 01:51:55
The capacity do we need increase or do decrease or relocate? 01:51:57
We're really trying to do the right thing, there's no question about that. 01:52:01
This is not an attack. 01:52:05
This is trying to find solutions. 01:52:07
And and no doubt in my mind, we won't change all behaviors. 01:52:09
But if I know that I've got a trailer. 01:52:13
That's got a shed that I tore down or that the. 01:52:16
Floods blew out or? 01:52:20
Fire, you know. 01:52:22
And I can take it to your site. 01:52:24
You're not gonna charge me. 01:52:26
Money that I may or may not want to pay or have. 01:52:29
Maybe it would encourage. 01:52:32
That. 01:52:34
Behavior over what? 01:52:35
Flying on now? Maybe not. 01:52:37
I don't know how receptive people would be, the distance and whatnot. Uh. 01:52:39
We we're willing to sit down and figure out something that works. It's a. 01:52:44
It's coffee, do you consider? 01:52:48
I'm very ugly sex. 01:52:51
Yeah, stop it. 01:52:55
We appreciate what you're doing. So you got those figures. 01:52:57
Yes, Sir. So we do have. We've had. 01:53:00
3. 01:53:03
Uh, invoices on this would chew up. 01:53:07
And I have to remember the dates on this. I might have to get Bill Joe to help me on somebody. 01:53:10
Reagan's probably. 01:53:18
Yeah. 01:53:21
So our last one that we paid this year was $119,000 hundred 19,000. So that's that's the second in the series for this year, 01:53:22
correct. 01:53:26
Look if I might, Mr. Chairman, that 119,000 did include $56,250. 01:53:31
Of the 225. 01:53:38
$1000. 01:53:40
That was allocated for illegal dumping. 01:53:41
We build that on a quarterly basis and so that was our first billing. 01:53:43
For the quarter and for the April through June quarter, so the remainder of that which I believe was the. 01:53:47
Actual number. 01:53:54
And yes, so that's true left. 01:53:56
OK62K. 01:54:01
It would it be fair to say that? 01:54:06
Is that a quarterly estimate, you know average? 01:54:09
That's every six months, every six. But it has gone down. I'm, I'm not. 01:54:12
The previous 72 so it's gone down 10,000. 01:54:16
And and they are getting lower and lower and this is also something that. 01:54:19
The Treasurer and I have been discussing. 01:54:24
With delinquent accounts and past delinquent accounts and we have a lot of. 01:54:27
I think there was. 01:54:33
Connor, as we have cleaned up transition. 01:54:34
And lots of transition. This is 1 also that was transitioned that we're trying to clean up between the county being responsible 01:54:37
for it. 01:54:40
And turning it over to UWS. So we're trying to transition out with some of these long standing. 01:54:44
Delinquent accounts where folks don't live there no more, they died. And so we're also looking at that with the treasurer to try 01:54:49
to claim some of this up. 01:54:52
So you're suggesting that 62 could be less as we clean it up? 01:54:56
But but but I'm glad you brought up the point. 01:55:00
225,000. 01:55:02
Additional. 01:55:04
We we voted on that. 01:55:05
Last year we approved. 01:55:07
And that was to. 01:55:09
Try to. 01:55:11
Recover some additional expenses that you didn't put in your contract for this illegal dump. 01:55:15
The illegal dumping. 01:55:21
Seems overwhelming which is not included in the contract. 01:55:23
And we just could not drive by there neglected. We had to go back to pick it up. Yeah. 01:55:26
And so that's what we talked about. 01:55:30
So that's correct, it's for. That's for illegal dumping. 01:55:32
All right. 01:55:37
So do you anticipate? 01:55:42
A request for next year for I. 01:55:43
At this growth, it's going 40%. 01:55:45
Just encouraging bad behavior. We need to start with enforcement. 01:55:48